Let's play a fun game. Of who is guilty, can you figure out who is the guilty party?

[Msputiton]

I know this is not how the law works, but for this fun activity let's pretend it is.

Ok, so this was a fun activity we once did in my psychology class.

You play a detective. A woman (ms. A) walks in and tells you, that a person (mr. B) Has been harrassing them by text message and would like to file a restraining order. You decide if the restraining order is accurate or not.

Ms. A: shows evidence of over 200 hundred messages complaining about her actions, and even after over 10 times of Ms. A asking Mr. B to stop harrassing and contacting her, he does not stop messaging her and spins it as having a discussion.

Mr. B. Suspecting you are investigating him for harrassment comes to you. Tries to spin the story that it was 2 friends having a disagreement. He goes on a very long winded overly detailed information about what happened. And it does not seem the same as what evidence you saw.

You make your decision to send the restraining order to the judge.(yes i know this isn't how the law works, but for this exercise it does)

MR. B: disappointed in the decision and has your number sends you over 125 messages telling you that you are wrong, and then when you say you are not changing your decision. Sends 75 messages trying to convince you that you are hurting his wife, and making her sick. You then say. "I believe in my heart i am right. Could I be wrong? Possibly. But to much evidence proves you to be guilty. So in my heart i believe you are guilty and will continue."

MS. A. Tells you she is still a victim as they wait for the court hearing. She sends you 75 of the 200 messages. Where he blames her for the detective's choice. Mr. B then accuses you the detective of being one sided and only listening to her. Then you see Mr. B has now lied about what you said. He took your words and twisted them. He claimed you said. "I am most likely wrong, and don't care that I'm wrong, and I am choosing to side with Ms. A"

MS. A seems to be lying and bullying Mr. B

Mr. B seems to be lying, and bullying Ms. A

Inconclusive not enough evidence

[DizzyDesii]

His wife, hmmm? 🙃 But yea thats some bullshit. No one deserves to be harassed like that. You can defend someone with one good statement. B is doing too much. B being a he/she doesn't make a difference to me. I feel that for anyone of any gender to have the nerve to keep trying to nail their beliefs/feelings into someone repeatedly is just pathetic after a point. Whomever they are, they need to get a life because I doubt the disagreement was that serious in the first place. They were likely just in the wrong, couldnt accept that they were wrong, and felt the need to keep trying to get their point across. At this rate it sounds like gaslighting or them trying to manipulate the situation to look right. People like B will often spin the story to others just to have someone backing them up so they dont feel as alone and silly. The thought of B right now is real live making me mad. I dont even want to bring zodiacs into it because I’m not big on that, but they sound like every Scorpio, Leo, or Capricorn that I ever got into a disagreement with and I wouldn't be surprised if B is one of the three. Longstory short I’d totally get the restraining order because the mf is a spammer/double triple quadruple texter at this point 😂 Lemme go blast my shit in honor of Mrs A

https://www.youtube.com/embed/92FaeaZEICU

[Msputiton]

Agree.
It is very disturbing when someone refuses to stop. And to return to over a hundred messages of them trying to get their point across is no longer an argument but creepy

[DizzyDesii]

Its gotta be someone whose butthurt (and not by the fact that A was right, but by the fact that B knows they or the wife is in the wrong)

[Msputiton]

Agree. But the wife was only caught in the middle. And chose to defend Mr. B

[DizzyDesii]

Well damn this stuff is crazy complicated 🤣

[Msputiton]

🤣🤣🤣🤣fun right

[melanieeeB]

B... pretty obvious tho Only a stalker sends thousands of texts to the detective and trying to manipulate evidence lol

[Msputiton]

Very good point

[MLGbreezy]

Mr. B is guilty all the evidence points to that but evidence isn’t always correct I also learned that when police are trying to find out if someone is lying if someone gives a very detailed respond of an encounter or story they are usually lying cause people rarely remember a story accurately. That’s why I’m saying B is guilty. But I could be wrong who knows

[Msputiton]

You would be correct

[DizzyDesii]

I don't know about that one. I am a very detailed person and remember a good amount of stuff. I was that type of girlfriend who could tell a boyfriend what he did on Saturday November 19th at 2:11pm that pissed me off 🤣 Bt i will say that police often spin stories to try to make you change yours. The cops are definitely a Mr B

[KittyKat90210]

@DizzyDesii Now I'm really intrigued about what happened at 2:11pm :p

[DizzyDesii]

@KittyKat90210 see 😂

[MLGbreezy]

@DizzyDesii well that’s what I’ve learned from my psych class and seen police officers say in Tv shows not saying that TV shows but if it’s being picked and used in shows I’d say there some merit to it plus they are teaching it in classes besides I’m speaking in general terms

[21Cowboy21]

We'll said - I got it wrong. I thought the evidence was potentially inclusive so I would proceed with the restraining order - worse case scenario A is simply safer - no downside for B. But my theory was incorrect.

[AviatorTom]

You have two completely different and contradictory stories from two individuals, with no corroborating evidence from anyone else. Therefore, you cannot make a valid decision.

[Msputiton]

Even with ms. A sharing all messages between the two?

[AviatorTom]

@msputiton Text messages can be easily faked. Unless they were obtained directly from the phone company, they're not validated, and are questionable as evidence.

[humanearth]

It was too wordy for me to read the whole thing, so I just picked

Mr. B seems to be lying, and bullying Ms. A

It just seemed logical after the first paragraph. That's as far as a got and lost interest in reading the rest

[Paul_in_Indy]

A restraining order is imposed to forbid the proximity of someone who is a real threat of physical harm. You can’t ask for a restraining order against someone who is making you feel bad because they send you many text messages.

[Msputiton]

I said it has nothing to do with real law.
This is who is lying for a fun activity

[XHopelessRomanticX]

It doesn’t matter what Mr. B’s story is. The call for service is in regards to harassment by text message, which you have evidence of.

[Fuentes]

Clearly B is deranged and weird and needs to get help

[Msputiton]

It would seem that way fashoo.

[21Cowboy21]

Great question a lot of people loved that. Very good challenge!

[Wish4UrB00ty]

I’m gonna say that Mr B is harassing Ms A.

[Msputiton]

It is how i see it as well

[Wish4UrB00ty]

Like I think she was being dirty too for sure. But it’s all kind of fluky.

[exitseven]

I voted B. Mr B is a tool.

[Msputiton]

In my opinion i would agree

[MadAndBankrupt]

it’s three people in the story not two.

ms. A

ms. B

ms. B’s wife

[TrillXHippy]

Mr. B mainly for irritating me and the other evidence

[LimitedBenefits101]

MS. A seems to be lying and bullying Mr. B

[sirderpsalot123]

Very obviously Mr B

[Msputiton]

I would say it is pretty obvious

[wafflemakerman69]

Mr. B