Why are white Americans so hung up on dei yet not this?

Question

Lori Loughlin and Felicity Huffman were among the wealthy parents accused of cheating or paying bribes to get their children into elite universities.

WhiteSteve · Accepted Answer

People’s bigotry outweighs their disdain for elites, however big into populism they may claim to be. I think a lot of people also think they’re just temporarily embarrassed millionaires who will be rich eventually.

We can ask the same question about people’s energy for street crime vs white collar crime…. the white collar crime does most of us more harm than the off-chance that we MIGHT be assaulted or robbed or whatever.

Meanwhile people in suits and ties are the biggest criminals America has to offer, but we have a societal sickness where we applaud these people, because we desire to be rich like them.

So any non-street-crime means are justified by the end, to a disturbing amount of people, who likely are the ones it’s at the expense of, to some degree or another.

Let’s be totally honest: America is mostly run by a White majority (if not in numbers, then in baked-in political, economic, and societal power)…so many White people have an entitled attitude and think anything that happens here has to be first cleared by them. America belongs to them, and anyone else is just here at their behest, as they see it.

A lot of people see life as a zero-sum game, and I think the idea of people of color potentially making gains frightens White people, thinking that it will be at their expense. They try to cloak it as an affront to meritocracy, never QUITE saying that “we think White people, specifically White MEN, are the best for any job we’d care to do, inherently, over any other demographic”, but also not really needing to. Well, on the Internet, they DO say it sometimes, but we’re supposed to let that slide as “trolling”, and not someone speaking freely with relative or complete anonymity🙄

Point is: a lot of people are racially prejudiced, at least in some measure, to a point where it can steer outcomes in people’s lives, directly or indirectly, positively or negatively depending on which end of the dynamic you’re on.

Anecdotal example that’s fresh on my mind: some White dude got into landscaping early in adulthood, just laboring, a couple years pass and he’s on to landscape construction (building retaining walls, laying sod, etc), couple more years and he becomes a crew foreman. Then a little after that, promoted to a superintendent that managed multiple crews. By his own admission, it’s not because he was some phenom in his field. His boss passed over many of his coworkers, some with more than a decade more experience than him. He asked why, and his boss just said “the customers don’t want to deal with those guys🤷‍♂️”

“Those guys” meaning Mexican immigrants who spoke broken English. That’s it. Nothing to do with knowledge or aptitude…. the (probably mostly White) customers, who aren’t even specifically identified yet, can be counted on to likely have a problem with someone who doesn’t speak perfect English having a job beyond a certain level.

Like that alone is commentary on the state of things in society. Sounds like MULTIPLE qualified people were passed over on an opportunity for upward economic mobility based on not speaking English cleanly enough, in favor of someone who might not have anywhere near the knowledge pertaining to the ACTUAL WORK. So…. its a real thing that happens, and to claim otherwise is foolish, disingenuous, and insulting.

And this can all be applied to other prejudices that (unfortunately) need to be regulated into correction: misogyny, homophobia/transphobia, xenophobia, etc. It all boils down to selfish and irrational “If they get something, what do I lose?” attitudes.

The waters get muddied sometimes, because people will tend to cling to whatever personal identity they have that they believe gives them the most power. Not single anyone out, just as common example: White women. I find they can go either way. Liberal White women subscribe to feminism to one degree or another and can be big on “Girl Power”, haha, and conservative White women often are more concerned with their identity as White people.

So you’ll have identity outliers folks love to point to in a token manner, to claim that regulations or even just voluntary programs with good intentions are unwanted. “Just ask this [X/Y/Z], they disagree with it despite belonging to that demographic!”

Anyway, I don’t want to ramble too much longer, but the moral of the story is that Americans by and large are people of low character, warped morality, and poor life priorities.

Darklydarkened · Accepted Answer

Fires in California, is a good debate actually.

Why is Californian state so ineffective against it? Well because they're obviously underfunded, under regulated and unready.

Because both right and left wing of American politics are basically neoliberals. Their overall ideology is the same, their policies are just tad different shades of the same mentality

Open Twitter, and you'll find the likes of Elon Musk constantly accusing lgbt, immigrants or DEI for everything.

Why? Well because they don't want you to actually question how come the richest nation the world has ever seen, can't even fund and organise institutions that will protect it's largest economic hubs from natural disasters that happen every year.

Because if you do that, you'll ask the rich to be taxed more, you'll ask the likes of musk, who quadroupled their wealth by just their political connections to be responsible for the nation they extract wealth from.

And that's a big nono! A bunch of lesbians, or dumb woke activists are the problem.

In fact, let's cut public spending, as if that's the main issue about US economic model. Rich people need more freedom to buy all the assets and max inequality out more! That'll be the solution

Daniela1982 · Accepted Answer

All they got was slaps on the wrist when anyone else would have done jail time. Money speaks

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

It must be an American thing because I have no idea who they are.

Anonymous · Answer

Who says white Americans weren't outraged about it? The vast majority of white Americans are not elites and don't get that sort of special treatment.

But regardless, two wrongs don't make a right. The facts show DEI has been an utter failure. It's time for it to go. Companies should be empowered to hire the best candidate for a job based on their qualifications. Gender, skin color and sexual orientation are NOT qualifications. Considering those things at all is wrong, and inevitably results in lower quality candidates getting hired, on average... sometimes with dire consequences.

https://www.bairdmaritime.com/security/incidents/accidents/column-dei-a-flawed-policy-in-crewing-ships-an-innocent-australian

HighValue · Answer

Europe has dei too, plus allows women to be raped and murdered by muslims.

Much of European countries are pathetic and rely on the USA defending them with our military for free costing the US taxpayers billions of dollars every year. And the USA offers aid for free when disasters harm other countries. You'd all be speaking German or dead if it wasn't for the USA.

Any people from other countries should take a look at their own pathetic history before criticizing the USA.

exitseven · Answer

They both had lazy, spoiled kids that had no ambition besides spending their parents money. They hire a guy that had connections at USC to get them admitted. USC is hardly a first tier school.

DEI really did not have anything to do with this.

Kaneki05 · Answer

A lot of people are Capatlists so why would they be bothered that been rich gives you privileges? It's not a double standard because Dei has nothing to do with capatlism more the opposite tbh hiring someone based on gender or race despite their wealth.

Though I know a few capatlists that will complain about such privileges. Hypocrites.

Anonymous · Answer

What is the point of being rich if you can't get preferential treatment? We as a society treat the affluent better because they're better people. There's just far more "normies" than affluential people. So we have to pretend that everyone is getting a fair shake so as not to anger the great unwashed masses.

hahahmm · Answer

Both things are wrong. And we don't really know what most people think since the media is like 98% controlled by one side... and it's not the side that has a problem with DEI.

AnonAndrew · Answer

Well, that issue was already dealt with by the court system, right? Criminal prosecutions and public and corporate policy are quite different things.

TheSpaceGnome · Answer

I'm American, and I don't know what dei is, nor who those people are.  I don't follow celeb crap.

JonCobretti · Answer

Difference is "College admission scandal" is illegal and DEI is not only not illegal but is praised and endorsed.

Shiprex · Answer

Because it criticises people like them while DEI shows their privileges in the limelight in a negative way.

ProbablyClueless · Answer

Everyone I know is extremely hung up on that. White Americans just as much as other colors.

Massageman · Answer

The Hollywood Zoot Suits and Hoi Polloi can always buy their way out of difficulties, contractions, etc.

genericname85 · Answer

i think it's more sensible to pay more attention to what happens to a vast majority of people vs celebrity gossip.

Anonymous · Answer

We were furious about it but woke Hollywood and the woke media 100% supported them.

zagor · Answer

Um, these people were prosecuted. No one is being prosecuted for DEI.

Dongie · Answer

Yeah, they just start world wars.

Nerdvana · Answer

Here in America, we like to have a flavor of the month of who we judge and why.

Anonymous · Answer

Lori Loughlin is so hot! Her kid totally could've gotten into USC without the bribe too! lol!

Reijen · Answer

One is far more prevalent than the other. And has a greater impact.

Vxzae · Answer

Wow I’m from a very wealthy family but don’t think I could just pay to get in a top university. It is shocking this

katiesmuff · Answer

Was glad they got caught and punished

Vickie06 · Answer

People need someone to blame.

eagle1951 · Answer

It beats me I'm out of their league.

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