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Women treat men with contempt at best in most cases. I was a sensitive poetry writing boy in my teens and 20's.
Very gentle with girls, rape or violence never crossed my mind. That sort of thing was for ogres and psychopaths. Keep in mind I was a dedicated weight and martial arts adherent and by no means appeared weak or geeky.
My mother was a drunken 2nd wave feminist that reveled in tormenting men (and boys), you could see the spark in her eyes as she said things, and made accusations against me or other males. Truly a monster that should have been aborted.
I persevered and kept reminding myself that not all women are like my mother. Thankfully I only saw her twice a month as my father had custody of me after he divorced that venomous Succubus.
Eventually I began to see this man hating superior attitude in most (65% or so) of women.
Today I'm painfully alone yet have accepted that I will die single and alone.
I was married and because I don't know any better I married an abusive misandrist. Ruined my finances and my self esteem and worth.
I used to be a good man, not bad looking either. No Brad Pitt, but not ugly and fat. But I won't approach a woman at all outside of business or anything absolutely necessary. I won't help a woman change a flat tire. I am officially a misogynist now.
I don't mine most of the expectations that come with having a penis. The only thing I can't stand is putting value on a man based on how much money he makes. It's really disgusting. I just saw an article headlining that Michael Jordan is having another baby with a beautiful trophy wife 16 years his junior. If he was Mike the Bus Driver, no way would he be banging that woman.
As a society we are transitioning to a period of social and economic equality amongst genders yet expectations and ideals remain archaic. The same loving woman who would have been a housewife in 1950 married to Mr. Plumber, rode the express through academia, makes a 6 figure salary, and is now "too good" for Mr. Plumber. The only variable that changed is the woman now makes more money. Mr. Plumber is the same guy he always was. But because men are expected to make more, she's moving up the ladder for no reason other than the fact that she wants a man to make more. Absurd.
Good post. I absolutely agree.
Honestly, this fact sorta messed my mind up. I realized women do NOT like you because of "you." Everything just feels artificial.
If you have nothing to offer a woman, you will not get a woman.
No, men are often jerks regardless, I know many guys who know exactly where they stand and use it to their advantage. There is one or two who don't, but it's not girls fault, it's the fact that other guys have screwed girls over, so it's actually other guys, fucking over other guys.
I think a lot of men are angry over the fact that women now have equal rights compared to the past. Throughout most of recorded history women were property.
And men were much happier then. Because it was all about male dominance.
In todays world. They feel like they are no longer in control and it bothers a lot of them.
It is true that there are a lot of shallow and terrible women out there.
But a lot of men tend to victimize themselves as well.
Despite being a 30 year old virgin. I still enjoy being a man. And wouldn't trade it for anything.
I think honestly nowadays I hear a lot of bitching from both sides. Men complain about women and women complain about men.
Everybody wants or expects something different from the other gender in dating that often doesn't live up to that. And if the person does, then usually it leads to marriage or at least a very long serious relationship
I think men need to just be able to tell the difference between what women SAY they want and what they RESPOND to/are attracted to. Seriously, taking what women say they want word for word rarely is 100% foolproof. This isn't a slight against women either. Guys can SAY they are attracted to so and so, but what do they respond to? What do they end up going after. Actions over words.
And as far as not knowing how to act, it's in our best interest to be our most attractive selves. That way we're not "acting", but "being ourself" and giving ourselves the best chance of a girl clicking with us. At that point (whether or not the girl responds) it's kinda out of our control. So it's finding a happy medium between being our most attractive self and reading whether the girl responds to our attractive self. That can eliminate some of the confusion.
I think people need to start taking responsibility for how they act and feel, and especially for how they treat others.
Yes, I do believe in cause and effect, but ultimately (for example), it's not OTHER people's fault that I don't trust people because I've been hurt in the past, it's MY fault I don't trust people because I'm making the choice to not trust people.
People need to stop blaming others for their own shortcomings and dysfunctions. *I* am responsible for myself; how I behave, how I feel, how I treat others, how I allow others to treat me... it's all up to ME and no one else.
If someone has been "destroyed", they only have themselves to blame. And yes, I'm talking to myself there too, haha!
Oh glory I love your thinking.
Thank you :-)
This site has lots of bitter whiny men(boys actually) but they love to use feminism as an excuse as for why:
They can't get laid
Uh, you aren't entitled to sex
Don't have girls approaching them
Girls get approached so much so what would be the point in girls approaching?
I think if anything men don't think logically anymore. But I have seen this whiny baby crap from men only on this site.
Very true.
"Girls get approached so much so what would be the point in girls approaching?"
Girls never admit this. I wish they did. instead they rely upon this whole 'its just how we were made' crap
Maybe we should just stop approaching and let you pull some wait instead of taking everything for granted to say oh NO POINT.
THEN DO IT.
Stop approaching. Maybe the you "nice guys" will shut up.
Maybe it would hurt a girls pride to approach a guy cause they know sometimes they'd get rejected too.
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Uh, veohtv you're the same dude that thinks girl cat fights outside of clubs is the same as world wars. Your comments and thoughts have no merit.
remember that link I posted to you about that female drug lord Godmother. If most women ran the world, you can't tell me some of them would be like her and the only way to over throw her, knowing she would refuse to step down from dictatorship is going to war. Do you think America should of not went to war when bin laden destroyed us? That female drug lord would also want to start terrorism too.
like I said to the other lady its not just the men on this site its the majority of western men
and you obviously just prooved you are not a whiney girl but an adult and empowered woman
I personally make an effort towards a woman. But as far as it goes by being judged in this way, does not bother me at all, because I have a confident approach when it comes to women, and I don't fear being judged, I just know that whoever I date or have relations with, I will make the effort needed to maintain it. I don't expect and I don't take things for granted, so if I am in any way judged as weak or a pig, then I am OK with that, because all that tells me is that the woman who judged me is this way, was not right for me, which makes her judgement irrelevant to me and my approach or personality towards woman,x
I definitely think so, my current girl friend has fucked me up so bad. I'm bitter and think all girls are sluts. We broke up for a while then she made out with a guy 20 feet away from me at a bar she knew I was going to be going to 3 days later. Went home with a guy in front of me a week or two later that I know and have classes with, then ended up having a rumor go around that she had anal with a kid I've known since I've been 12. It wasn't true but she still ended up in his tent the night of so I'm still unsure. So yes women destroy men all the time.
it is the lack of understanding from both genders , that why both are always at war. both camps would think the other party is wrong. also, I think it boil down to individual personality, some people may over think on certain issues and it lead to their behaviour/decision. however, I still feel that men are much easier to understand, women tend to be more complex.
Thank you finally a mature woman who is fair. You'll have better blessing in your future than these snake in the grass women on this site ever will.
They want to say women have destroyed men, most girls admit they would love to be friends with more guys cause girls are not easy to get along with. being surround by drama 24/7 is not healthy.
I totally agree.
"Let's face it us women often send mixed messages. We want men to be sensitive and then we call them weak. We want them to be more manly and then we call them pigs. "
It's so, so very refreshing to come across a woman with such objectivity. I'm not implying men are insusceptible to such a flaw, although on 'this' particular topic delusion skews in the woman's favor.
I certainly blame women for the man's downfall.
I was raised in a single parent household. If my mother wouldn't have been a typical woman who went for bad boys, I'd have had a father at home to teach me how to be a man.
Instead, a woman tried raising a boy into a man. She taught me how to interact with women. I wish a man was there to tell me the truth.
It sure seems that way.
Well, the women here speak highly of you. I'm a bit surprised you agree.
Obviously! You brainwash people to make them think its only appropriate for one gender to do the approaching. You brainwash one gender to think the other gender are perverts, and that gender is brainwashed to despise that gender because we are taught that if we want some love, we have to act like somebody other then ourselves, and then those who don't know how to act like women want, get completely neglected. So yeah you can say women destroyed men. A man strength is measured by the force he puts out, never confuse his strength with his heart! If a man hates you because your a girl, then he has had his heart broken, which is better then who that broke his heart, who has no heart!
"We want men to be sensitive and then we call them weak. We want them to be more manly and then we call them pigs." You do know there is an in between to both of those things, right?
In reality it is just the men (boys?) on this site who are whiney, bitter, and over all just beta-males. They LOVE to blame feminism for everything that is wrong in their life. No girl wants a relationship with them? Feminism. No woman finds them attractive even though they barely even try to look good? Feminism. Girls don't take them seriously when they whine and sulk about how "hard" they have it? Feminism. Car breaks down in the middle of the road? Feminism.
And please, don't even get me started on the "nice guy" thing.
Every time I visit this site I genuinely hope I never encounter any man like the men on this site.
*Awaits down votes from all the bitter beta-males.*
"You do know there is an in between to both of those things, right?
Which you women always fail to recognize and wrongfully judge as one or the other. I bet you would interpret kindness as weakness and confidence as cockiness.
Women (girls) who are sociopaths are bitchy and psycho.
I do certainly appreciate that you flat out say it--beta males, to women, are like fat girls are to men. Luckily though, more and more men seem to be shedding beta traits, corresponding with how women gripe here that all men just want sex and are PUA's. That's Alpha.
Betas take girls out to dinner and hope for a kiss. Alphas go for sex before wasting the cost of a drink on a girl.
As awesome as the progress has been, women fail to realize--*by definition* only a fraction of men are alpha.
Thumbs up for the honest truth straight from the source, though.
Men? Be alpha. Don't be romantic, or make an effort to be "respectful" or "considerate." those are beta traits. The beta is the guy who invites girls out to dinner, tries to charm them, waits for three dates for sex. The alpha is the guy who barely communicates, dates consist of sex at her place, and no, he doesn't buy her flowers.
@AndyWes Hell, interpret it however you want. My definitions of beta and alpha are much different than yours.
@Traxxus To be honest, I'm not about to waste my time on you. You whine and complain all over this site so there's no point in trying to reason with you.
It sounds so kinky when you refer to us as boys and beta males. Ohlala. Dominatrix.
Yours maybe, but most women and most aware men agree generally on alpha and beta.
lol look at the statistics, its called a silent majority for a reason. because its the majority duhhhhhh and they tend to be silent. its not just the men on this site its the average male in western civilization
I love how if men have a legitimate complaint against women, for example the high divorce rate where women get to fleece a man, we're "whiney" because women don't want to face the fact that it's their fault. Feminism has ruined many things. Marriage, men have no rights left and women can and do use it as an ATM. Fatherhood, men have no rights left, women can take away children whenever they want to and force the guy to pay child support, taking away any incentive to be a father.
@Moobacca While I honestly do agree with you on the second topic, I'll have to kindly disagree on the first one. I think a lot of men severely over exaggerate the amount of women who use their husbands as an "ATM". This isn't the 1900's. Most women have jobs now a days and aren't financially dependent on their husbands. And please expand on how the high divorce rate is women's fault.
80% of divorces are initiated by women, who win 90% of the time, take half the guy's stuff and then forces him to pay her money for the rest of their lives or she gets married. The top reason why women divorce men? It's not cheating, it's not violence, it's "dissatisfaction".
If that's not using marriage as an ATM, I don't know what is. If she's financially independent, then why does she get awarded half of his stuff? Why does he have to still support her?
And can I have the source where you got that from? Not trying to be condescending, just curious.
Ohhh, Moobacca. You can only "win" if you go to trial. Most divorces are settled because the parties come up with an agreement they both are unhappy with. Your stat about women winning 90% is just so far from the truth, it's laughable. Also, the notion that most men pay alimony. Also laughable. Additionally, the reason people cite "dissatisfaction" and not "cheating" is because you have to PROVE your reason to be granted a divorce. Much easier to prove dissatisfaction. You failed.
75% of the men on this site are bitter and whiney. I just think that's the way they are.
You're correct. 80% of all the people here are bitter. It's a website for bitter people. lol
Yes, most of the guys on here have problems that extent beyond feminism
Their problems extend way beyond feminism.
I blame Obama.
But are you talking down on men like women are the superior genders? God won't bless anybody that thinks that way. love thy neighbor
Spare me your concern on me being blessed or not. Every one of your comments on this question confrim you are part of the 75% of the guys on this site that I'm talking about.
You don't want to hear God cause you know your mind is guilty for thinking negative, well people like that that don't ask for forgiveness will have to answer to him. One bad apple spoils a bunch and the girl who made this question is a bad influence on girls like you. the world is only as cruel as you make it.
Give me a break.
Don't hate me cause I made a good point on that bad apple comment.
Women haven't destroyed men, things have just become more confusing in general. Without having a clearly established role, people need to find their own role, and that can be difficult.
If a man wants to be an attractive person he should work on himself for himself, not for women. That's all there is to it.
agreed, gender roles are as muddled as ever in Western (read: American) cultures.
It's true. Men have started to become almost as bitter and whiny as women are and have been over the past 40 years. Men have taken a page from the book titled "How to Get Your Way by Playing the Victim Role", authored by women and preached from the rooftops to this day by every feminist in the land. It has become pretty pathetic, really.
Mixed messages? More like outright dishonesty.
I think more people need to learn to live with their self and understand who they are before criticizing how they see others or how others see them.
https://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=rlvMAS_20K4I just chose to be who I want to be and enjoy being single.
Men not marrying? How deep does "the problem" go?
She is an amazing spokes person for societies view on men and Misandry in general.
Well you are right about sending mixed signals but a man is suppose to treat his woman with respect and still be man enough to protect her. The point where women destroy men is with some other mixed signals you come off as crazy and irrational. Men think in more logical ways so logic and your mindset just confuses the Hell out of us... So we are always wondering WTF?
Too much generalization it hurts my brain! ahhhhhhhhh!
Have women destroyed men? No, they haven't.
Women's method of communication can be looked as bi-lateral, and often confusing for the average male, but it isn't something one cannot learn.
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I believe MOST relationship problems come from communication and not necessarily from personality flaws.
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