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The Reason Why I Have Lost All Faith in Marriage (Page 2)
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I consider myself an extremely liberal man, due to the racism and xenophobia of conservatives. I mean, I believe in interracial marriage, but conservatives don't like white women with minority men.
However, I will agree that traditional marriage should not die out. I wish that those feminists would stop attempting to destroy men's lives.
What? I'm a White Conservative and I could careless who you date, I've dated a half-Hispanic and white girl before. Bottom line, love breaks through racial barriers.
@Vertical807
Not if you understand history and/or biology.
There are vast differences between the races.
Why would you want children who did not look like you and were less intelligent than you?
I would encourage you to list to what Muhammed Ali had to say about race mixing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1-JWNeIEMY
@cth96190 But that's goes on the argument that a person of any race can't be intelligent as any White person. Asians are actually making a break through in monetary gain throughout the whole U. S. It honestly sounds like you're one of those scientists from the 50's that said, "Black people can't be as smart as White cause "genetics."
@Vertical807
It is a fact, established by science, that different races have different intelligence scores and different spreads on the bell curve.
See the IQ map of the world, as a quick reference: https://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=2812
Since the day that you were born, you have been lied to by a faux education system and media that are controlled by the enemy of Western Civilisation.
It is self evident why one race left footprints on the Moon, while others have not left the Stone Age.
For example, the linked IQ map shows that the average IQ in Africa ranges between retarded and severely retarded.
@cth96190 This map states the average IQ across the world, this doesn't debunk my argument because any person from any race can have a high IQ. Plus, those countries are just in the "Stone Age" because they haven't got the resources like we do in Western Civilization. But also the fact that people are gonna marry regardless of IQ.
@Vertical807 Well, with me, I'm a Korean American, but I only like white women. I've had several Southern conservatives get mad at me for consorting with white women and to either stick to my own kind or date black women.
That's funny lol, my best friend is Korean/Puerto Rican. His preference is for White Blonde women. He dated one in HS, I had literally zero problems with it, although she was very needy so I told him he should' break it off before he left for basic training. Cause I know many other women that were better for him. Basically, there will also be outliners, I've heard many stories about Blacks not allowing their daughters to date White guys so it's a two way street.
*there will always be outliers
@Vertical807 I just don't like being treated like a monster because my skin's not light enough. You know, in the South, they still lynch non-white men for eyeballing white women. And I heard from conservatives that they don't want the white race to die out due to race mixing. I mean, I heard that the Korean race may die out sooner, due to low birthrate, but I don't have a problem with it.
No no, don't ever think that. Just like some people say that just because I'm White I'm "automatically" racist. Back then they would also lynch other whites as well, all the way to the Irish, Polish, etc. My ancestors coming from many countries especially Ireland. I don't what they have to worry about with "race mixing" lol, Whites make up 60% of the population. Don't woodg about it, they can't actually lay. a hand on you.
Didn't you say once you have a brother who's like the polar opposite of you? Why do you think he's so different? Curious since I'm like this with my own bro.
As for your mytake, yeah I think people should consider marriage much more carefully. If people didn't marry so easily, or even at all... I think there'd be way less future drama. You may have the right idea for just not even having any faith in it...
He is the typical middle child who gets off on rebellion, challenging authority, and being a general underachiever who complains and is far less independent than I am. I on the other hand am the overachieving oldest child who values authority and does anything to make my superiors proud.
Yeah... I was wondering because my brother never feels bad for anything. Ever. But I feel guilty way more easily and... we are just total opposites.
I was thinking, maybe he doesn't define himself by what he does... so what does he define himself by?
But you are a Traditional Christian and a believer. You cannot be complete without getting married and having children.
So yes, marriage is useless.
Monasticism buddy.
So don't get married bruh. There are some people in the world who still want to ya know.
Well...
At least we can take comfort in knowing you'll never procreate. :)
your issue is you actually trust the government and there laws lol
i try to avoid most of there laws cause there all made for money purposes
What does "post-modern" mean? Did you actually expect the average person reading your article to know that?
I'm actually speechless to insanity have just read... Congrats
lmfao then it is good that you got a divorce but some other people would still wanna get married soooooo
This is literally disgusting.
Why?
@cth96190 read it
I did. I agreed with everything, except his point of view that the Reformation and Protestantism was a bad thing.
@cth96190 expecting women to submit to husbands and saving their virginity, calling them sluts. Getting pissed when women don't abide by gender roles
You act like a whore, then get offended when people treat you in accordance to the measure of your actions. Thy name is HYPOCRITE. Expecting women to be faithful? That is the biggest joke in the universe and why women do not deserve a god damn thing from a man.
How is it disgusting? He is saying that if men are forced to be traditional by women then women should be held to the same standards, you know equality and all. Promiscuity is quite damaging plenty of studies show that and as he pointed out he thinks that men and women should not be promiscuis so he is being quite fair about it, you may disagree with his view on promiscuity (but again ample data shows its negative effects) but he is being fair about it expecting the same thing from women as he does of men. As for submitting to her husband that's actually not unreasonable as he is expected to take responsibility, take charge etc and women who don't submit expect him to do all of these things but then don't respect the mans authority creating even greater conflict. Its not really unreasonable, either she submits or stops demanding men step up be ambitious or to take charge. Disagree or not I don't see why its disgusting, unless be asked to be fair is disgusting to you?
@hellionthesagereborn not all women hold men to this standard. Also this thinking shows how idiotic you are. Instead of trying to stop the high standards held against men you go. Well if that's happening to us then we're doing that to girls. You sound like you're 5
And promiscuity is a choice so you can't say it shouldn't happen.
Most of the time men take charge without being asked so you can't expect women to submit. Also you you really need a women to submit to show that you're 'in charge'. Do you really need her to be submissive. We're all human ffs.
And what do you even mean specifically by submitting and respecting his authority
This is basically saying, you've gotta submit to me if you want me to care. Women are not objects. And even if women wanting men to take charge, why should they submit, do they really need to be lower for you to do that? THATS disgusting
@TheDeplorableOne how is anyone acting like a whore rn. And even if I were a whore (eg. A prostitute) I expect to be respected. The same way if respect everybody else.
Women can be faithful and women don't deserve anything? Fuck off
Also today as soon as women have sex they're labelled whores and sluts but if a man has sex he's a stud
If women act like slores by being unfaithful, lying, deceitful human excrement , then my point still stands they are unworthy of anyone's honor or RESPECT. Either both parties are 100% commited to making it work or 0%, their is no half stepping in that particular endeavour. You think jsut because you are the sole propertier of said vagina that men should shower you with gifts and freee s--t... get the fuck outta here with that ENTITLEMENT syndrome. Nobody owes you a thing in life, least of all a man.
I agree with you on the double standards of men who get tons of poosy as studs and women that do the same are slores and shamed for it. Both are reprehensible IMHO and the increasing level of incurable STD's virtually ensures that living a promisous lifestyle will only end up in heartbreak (for a variety of levels) and DISEASE that can't be cured by modern medicine in the coming years and decades.
About the respect thing, IT IS EARNED not simply given freely. I assure you if your a woman with a high cock count, men that are marriage minded that aren't complete beta boys/cucks/simps, will simply not respect you on virtue of the fact of your sloredom. The past does matter, contrary to your opinion, and is usually quite a good predictor of future behavior. Inability to pair bond being a huge factor in why men engaging with women of high cc counts virtually will end up epic fail every time.
@TheDeplorableOne oh when you said slit I thought you meant slut.
I agree if someone cheats and lies and hurts people they shouldn't be treated nice, I thought when you said slit you meant the actual definition.
When the fuck did I say I want to be showered with presents just because I have a vagina. YOU get tf outta here
And promiscuous people aren't bad. They have sex, if they get STDs it's their choice and fault, don't shame someone for having sex
@TheDeplorableOne and I agree respect is earned, but so is disrespect. If you know someone who's promiscuous and someone who's not, say you've just met them. They both shouldn't be disrespected and they should start on the same level. Don't disrespect someone unless they've done something bad
Slut not slit **
Promiscuity is inherently bad and a reflection of a deficient moral character. It does not matter if it was a "choice." Furthermore, if men are still going to be expected to abide by their gender's roles, we are going to want something out of it. We are not going to do it if it entails no benefits whatsoever. Hence women who shun traditional gender roles and become sluts are in no way whatsoever entitled to a good traditional man, honor, and respect. Furthermore I love when a woman submits -- it is one of the most glorious feelings ever, to be able to take care of her. The problem is that you cannot perceive Goodness apart from equality which is an extremely narrow minded view.
So girls who don't want to be forced into gender roles don't deserve respect?
Why should we submit?
Why can't we be equal?
It's disgusting that people can't have sex or even live without being shamed
Nope, at least not in the way that would originally be afforded to a traditional woman from a man. I repeat, a woman who does not abide by traditional gender roles is in no way entitled to a man who abides by his own. And good traditional men only want to respect good traditional women who EARN it.
Because men are better at leading than woman are. Because women are NOT equal, at least not biologically. And no amount of rhetoric will change this. Nobody ever said inferior, but men and women have inherently different roles as anthropology and their biology bears witness to.
Women are too cute to lead 😉 they need to be pampered and taken care of by a man.
Go and duck yourself sexist cunt
Fuck*
Or fuck yourself with a duck idc
You're cute when you're angry
Yea I'm sure you'd be saying that with my fist in your face
@Touchmehxx
He is a Christian. From a Christian perspective, he is absolutely correct, because that is what the Bible states.
@cth96190 he's not correct tho. No ones correct
@Touchmehxx
Clearly, you have not read the relevant scriptures.
The Bible states clearly that women should 'submit themselves' to their husbands, to be obedient and other things exactly as per the OP's original article.
If you wish, I can give you some specific scriptural references.
That is why, from his perspective as a Christian, he is correct.
It is not possible to hold a position that is in opposition to scripture and call one's self a Christian. That was the fundamental cause of the Reformation.
In modern society, you are free to do whatever you want, but you need to be aware that actions have consequences.
For example, every time that you fuck someone you are playing STD Russian roulette.
What is the difference between herpes, warts and love?
Herpes and warts are forever. :-)
@cth96190 go and fuck yourself im sick of people like you I hope you're type become extinct
@Touchmehxx
What a pity that you responded in such a way when you were offered facts.
You have revealed yourself to be a young woman of little education, of questionable cognitive capacity and no manners.
You should fit in well with the regressive totalitarian left.
@cth96190 how do I have little education? Do you know me? No
And I only showed 'no manners' because I say the same shit everyday to ignorant people like you
And you're 'no education' girl is pursuing a career in law and got top grades at the end of my gcses so fuck you
I can tell that you are uneducated by your responses, your utter ignorance of what is in the Bible (which is the foundation of the canon of Anglo Saxon literature) and your lack of cognitive process (which is so child-like that it borders on retarded).
To be kind to you, that is what the modern education system has been designed to produce: people who are incapable of critical thinking; who are indoctrinated into Cultural Marxism; and who are ignorant of history, literature and philosophy. They are also usually borderline illiterates.
"Pursuing a career in law" at the age of 16. ROTFL
FYI: I teach and tutor in English and history; I have a masters in history; and I a member of two honour societies.
Your responses show a mind that is untrained, undisciplined and utterly uninformed.
I see work of that standard from first-year undergraduates. Few survive to second year.
@cth96190 so because I think the bibles bill means I'm uneducated? K
And I'm gonna be honest I don't know what cognitive process is
And yes I'm studying at collage that will help me with law and going to uni to do a law degree. So fuck you
And how are you judging me based off one chat? Weirdo
how exactly do I sound like I'm five? I merely pointed out that men are held to an absurd standard and the person writing this take is upset that women seem to get a free pass while men are forced into these absurdly one sided standards where they do a lot and get nothing back. Sounds like an ad hominid attack because you can't really argue against it. Promiscuity is a choice, I never said a person should not have that choice only that its unhealthy and provably so. Also we say how things are choices and people shouldn't do it all the time, like eating unhealthy, smoking, drinking in excess etc. As for men taking charge, thats because women expect men to, if you don't take charge your to passive, your not ambitious, boring, etc. resulting in her not being interested in you, so we both know that that is utter bullshit so why say it?
y submitting and respecting his authority I mean that if she wants a man to take charge then she in turn has to actually respect his decisions you cannot complain about a man being to passive and not taking charge and then undermine and ignore his authority when he does exactly what you have asked him to do as many women do today. Its one or the other, don't complain that he doesn't take charge but then get pissed off and claim he is controlling when he does exactly what you asked. Its hypocritical.
Its not about what he wants its about what women want, its always been about that. Women want men to act a certain way then, as you so conviently illustrated immediatley punish them for doing it. He has to take charge but she can't be submissive to him because thats him objectifying her (how so?) and its disgusting.
I think its disgusting you would demand him to step up and take charge only to ridicule and insult him and slap him down when he does so, make up your mind do you want him to be in charge or do you wish to be the one in control? As for respect that is earned through actions, it is not something you deserve simply for existing you earn it through your actions, the ability to not act impulsively, to put others first and think things through, to take responsibility for your actions, that earns respect not simply existing.
@hellionthesagereborn you didn't listen about the respect thing but ok
And you say he's getting this stuff from the bible right? Well whys he getting upset when men have o take charge if that's what the bible says. Even if he believes women are showing double standards
The Bible also says women are supposed to submit and adhere to traditional gender roles. It applies a standard to both genders whereas many modern women want to be free from their standards but still force men to follow theirs.
Why should people do that just because the bible says it it. It's funny how it's mostly men that want this to happen, because they get the better deal.
I I imagine he would be getting upset at the whole, double standard thing. Seems pretty apparent what with his argument being that its unfair that men are forced to adhere to their gender role by women yet women then scream about how they shouldn't have to and if a man expects her to adhere to her gender role as much as she expects him to adhere to his he is a sexist pig. As for respect, yeah I did read your comment on it, thats why I responded with my comment about it. You are not entitled to respect, you earn it through actions, being impulsive and self indulgent isn't something that earns you respect.
As for getting the better deal, well yeah they would if women treated them with respect instead of like a tool that would make things better for them and yes women actually having to go out of their way to think of others, in this instance boyfriend/husband would make their lives more difficult but it would also make it equal which is why women refuse to do so, why think of others when you could spend that time thinking of yourself.
@hellionthesagereborn so you believe women should earn respect but men should just get it? K
And yes men do get the better end of the deal
And if men didn't abide to gender roles it may make things dangerous for women. If women didn't abide by gender roles everything would be fine. I'm not saying they have to I'm just saying look at it from this perspective
At which point in time did I ever state men should be given respect? Your to busy trying to be a victim that your not thinking straight. No, respect is earned men and women it doesn't matter. Your not special and trying to paint me as sexist so you don't have to actually consider what I have said is simply irrational. Yes men get the better deal and thats why women want to be married and have relationships right? Thats idiotic, men don't get the better deal, they get responsibility and they get bills when they get into a relationship thats how it works, thats how it always works. Thats not even arguable, they do more work put in more money get more responsibilities then get treated like shit told their lazy and then divorced while having everything taken from them. How the hell would it be dangerous if men didn't abide by their gender roles exactly?
Uh oh don't say that, I got told how women have had it better for like 1500 years and even though I have a history degree I'm ign'ant because really women had it made
Hahaha you need to get over it XD.
Your understanding of reality is very poor.
Another rant filled with misogyny.
Das bullshit
thanks for sharing,
Well said.