The Birth of the Extremes in Sex and Relationships

[Sametheon]

I've noticed events recently; developments in the fabric of socio-sexual relations between the sexes, all of which are concerning to say the least.

To begin is an issue that has been prominent for years, since the beginning when 3rd wave feminism reared it's ugly head and sent ripples crashing against society's shores. It has, of course, continued to spread and multiply its blatantly hateful rhetoric to an astounding degree.

On the other end, the backlash has been intense. Genuine concerns about the destruction of healthy sexual relationships, mixed with human nature to associate with 'tribes' most similar to our own, mixed with a healthy dash of once-sleeping cells of misogyny.

Misandry and misogyny are both, hand in hand, much more common than ever. The simple but unsolvable question then remains; what is to be done? The answer is that nothing can be. I certainly understand that my population sample is limited, and I'm in desperate need of larger experience size, but virtually everybody I've ever asked has said that they prefer having the upper hand in a relationship. The advantage.

This is more than likely a product of widespread low self-esteem, as cliche as the answer may seem, because it must be noted that the most attractive and sexually successful of us all have little to none of these issues. Furthermore, because of our inherent tribal nature, coupled with the intense us-or-them mentality of feminism and MGTOWism, many feel the need to 'speak up' for our own sex and attempt giving them the societal 'leg up' against the other sex.

This is patently unhealthy. The very idea of sexual relations being 'against' the other sex, as some sort of completion for who's better, a pseudo-mature version of "girls drool, boys drool", or vise versa, are the main threats to, not only society itself, but the emotional needs of its constituents.

It is with thus that I extend the olive branch to the entire female sex; nothing shall be solved if we continue building up ideologies advocating for the destruction of romantic relationships and sex altogether. Let's try to have a civil discussion, and avoid both sides' typical slander of one another. It's wholly important, now more than ever.

P.S. : Girls are stoopeder, they go to joopiter.

[bcromartie]

"To begin is an issue that has been prominent for years, since the beginning when 3rd wave feminism reared it's ugly head and sent ripples crashing against society's shores."

This I just have to ask, "How?"

I would think it was 2nd wave rhetoric that continues to be implemented rather than 3rd. Not that anyone actually knows the difference.

[Sametheon]

There is a very distinct difference between 2nd and 3rd wave feminism; one that is immediately apparent upon examining literature or statements by either respective ideology. They preach almost entirely different sets of change.

[bcromartie]

So... who are you quoting? There is no one "voice" of Feminism so you're obviously using a specific school of thought... I hope...

[Sametheon]

1st wave feminism was a push for the right to vote for women
2nd wave feminism was a push to allow women freedom to pursue their own careers and not be forced into being a housewife.
3rd wave feminism is a push to grant women more human rights than men, such as quotas forcing extra female employment, subsidized birth control, and oppression of men through downsizing their issues as 'guy problems' and 'mansplaining'.
So yes, they're vastly different movements.

[bcromartie]

... -sigh-... Nevermind.

[Sametheon]

That's not any kind of answer, but, regardless, you'd might as well go in the corner and pout with your hood up. The differences between each wave of feminism are vast, and never more so than the last one.

[bcromartie]

The actual person your citing matters. There isn't one "unified" mantra. There never was one. For instance comparing Betty Friedan to Rebecca Walker and calling it all "Feminism" is like comparing Jesus to Buddha and saying it's all the same.

[Sametheon]

That's a complete fallacy; like saying Nazis aren't bad because Rommel and Hitler were very different as people. It's nonsense. If you've ever been on 'feminist' twitters, facebooks, tumblrs, or anything of the like, then you know exactly what I'm talking about. If you haven't, or agree with them, then I seriously doubt you have any authority to talk with any regards to feminism.

[bcromartie]

I'll avoid your Godwin's Law in the same sentence in which you mention a fallacy. Political movements however don't work the same way; Malcom X for instance had a completely opposite message to Martin Luther King but both were civil rights leaders and the fact that history simply followed one course over another should not make Malcom X associated with peace. The same is true within Feminism: Not all feminist leaders and speakers are on the same side and many are not no matter what occurs. As a matter of fact there's major divides within Feminism, which is one of the reasons why 3rd wave exists because what most people don't know is that 2nd wave wasn't about "women's rights!" it was about "WHITE women's rights"; it wasn't until the early 90s where other women of minority status were truly considered to be encompassed in the movement and it's political goals.

Not that you care.

[Sametheon]

Oh please. Don't try and pull your 'I'm a racist' bullshit on me. It only gets you so far when you have literally no argument backing it up whatsoever. The only reason why you're pretending like 2nd and 3rd wave feminism are similar is because you want to associate your horrible, poisonous ideology with a noble cause and give it credit by association. Typical leftist propaganda, you'll find, doesn't work here nearly as well as it does on more impressionable, uneducated folk who are so filled with white guilt that they'll approve anything to not look racist.

[bcromartie]

Who said you were racist?

[Sametheon]

"It wasn't until the early 90s where other women of minority status were truly considered to be encompassed in the movement and it's political goals.

Not that you care."

Strongly implying that I don't care about minorities, therefore making me a racist.

It's like you're not even trying.

[SnowHearth]

Feminists will never see reason, unless you bash a bat in their heads.

[Sametheon]

Not a bad idea.

[SnowHearth]

That's what my grandmother thinks, I agree with her.

[MissSakura]

well done

[Adigelunar]

thats good