Depends on your definition. Women might have higher standards that have to be met before she lets a guy have sex with her, men have lower standards and will have sex with anyone that says yes. So one could argue that men are shallow because they only want sex and will do anything to get it and accept it from anyone, women could be seen as less shallow because they need substance to the guy, not just looks, not just sex, but the whole package.
Not all guys are like that. Some guys have standards and they dont do anything for her to have sex but instead loke you said women do guys look for some qualities to get them turned on and are able to have sex. Most men aren't like that usually they go for sex but there are a few of us that dont do that and have standards.
To be fair, you need to be really desperate to have sex with just about anyone, and I don't think it is reasonable to assume that every guy is desperate and neither of them have any standards whatsoever.
@flakosky not all men. I assume people who can comprehend the English language know that I'm speaking in generalities, same as the asker was doing ๐
Women think men are more shallow and men think women are more shallow.
Typically, men are easy. We just want you to look nice/sexy and you're in. If you have a great personality, that will be factored in once we get to you know you. That's all.
Women, on the other hand, have a lot of requirements. You need to be a certain height, a certain weight, make a certain income, dress a certain way, have a certain personality, have some edge to you, have a beard... those are just examples... but women have a list of requirements before dating a guy, while men don't have that many requirements.
"Typically, men are easy. We just want you to look nice/sexy and you're in. If you have a great personality, that will be factored in once we get to you know you. That's all. "
Lol no. No self respecting man would ever begin committing to a girl just from her looks alone. Sure men will fuck a bad bitch/crazy girl but most men will not commit to a bitch which you can get off from meeting a chick a few time.
Can't we just agree that society as a whole is shallow and that we all need to grow up and learn how to accept people. And not all men, or all women, are extremely shallow, there are a few that are from both genders, but that's like saying all black people are ghetto, its stereotyping. Individuals are shallow, not whole genders.
Okay. Your definition of women is repulsive. No offense. Girls like this are the reason that we all get a terrible reputation. When girls who are just looking to meet a nice guy, no matter how macho he is or how much money he makes, there is thag women's shallowness stereotype. :(
hey.. it's unfair to say all women expect those things from men. here are my requirements:
1) be a good person (by my standards) 2) make me laugh 3) be kind to me and respect me 4) be ambitious 5) value the same things i value in life and people
That's an unfair generalization, you can't label one sex more shallow than the other, because being shallow, (like so many other human flaws ie arrogance, ) simply aren't specific to one sex.
Your requirements aren't the standards everyone follows either, I certainly adhere more to the 'guy' standards.
@annaboyd333 not trying to come off as 'preaching', and I apologize if I do, but I'm just sharing my opinion, but I don't expect anyone else to agree or support what I'm saying!
Some of the gender are like this. I don't care about how much a guy makes I don't need to be bought I have a job, a house, a dog, and a car all provided and paid for by myself. I know women can be like that but people should strive to be the exception to the rule. Guys can be pretty terrible too but I don't put them all into that category.
But by that logic, aren't they also confined to only being allowed to choose from initiators. Can they truly afford to be shallow on that logic?
Following this train of thought, as a man I can ask any woman out. Women may get to choose, but only from the selection they're given. I can go back and ask again. She cannot go back and decide to take a man she passed up on.
At this point, can they afford to be shallow?
What if we exit heteronormativity and explore homo and bi sexuality? Does this mean just about all lesbian relationships are horribly shallow and gay relationships are deep and meaningful? Does that observation hold true?
Too complicated. I tested this to find a definitive answer. I altered my tinder profile to say a bunch of bulls71+. Something like
โIโm back home after digging Wells in Ethiopia for the past six months. I like to do good things in my spare time so now Iโm back I do a weekend a month at the humane shelter to walk dogs with no human. I exercise a lot, mostly at home, so Iโm in good shape. I play hockey once a week in a minor league and have my black belt in jujitsu. Iโm not a rich man but Iโm a Cppa so I do pretty well, Iโm responsible. Looking for my forever lady! But Iโm 5โ6 so I hope thatโs not a problem โ Crickets. Not a single response. I used pics of a reasonably handsome friend. When my profile was literally โ6โ2, hit me up.โ I couldnโt answer them all. 😂😂
Honestly not all women are shallow, just usually the really hot ones that most guys value the most. And I've met some really shallow guys. My ex was super shallow and said he only dates "bad bitches with their shit together". This was a direct quote from him. To be fair all guys aren't shallow either It depends on the individual
Women by far, have higher standards for casual sex.
Men and women are probably just as picky about relationships but women tend to look for a wider range of traits in a relationship while men's list of traits are smaller but they are super picky about those few traits (looks, sexual history). Both genders care about compatibility in a relationship.
Women are probably slightly more likely to compromise on their requirements for a marriage.
See... here's the thing... You look at all the stereotypical ways in which men complain about women being shallow, and there's usually some merit to these stories.
If you look at all the stereotypical ways in which women complain about men being shallow? It's usually nothing that men worry about, and just women being bitchy at each other.
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I was going to say equally as shallow , it depends on the individual , but... I voted A men are more shallow , considering the above ridiculous assumption comes from a shallow minded man
If I was judging men and women by the calibre of people on GaG.. then I'd say the men are more shallow 😏😣
This question is unanswerable because it declares that one gender is better than the other. It's sexist to suggest that. Women and men are different, they have different roles and love in different ways. Their brains are literally wired differently. Frankly its the question itself that is "shallow".
lies... if girl isn't sexy enough or doesn't have a job guys dont want them guys are equally as shallow as girls and if not they are worse... cause if the girl isn't all that attractive without make up guys gont like them but us females date ugly ass guys aslong as they're loyal...
dont***... id say the top : 1. Be loyal 2. Be kind and show love towards him 3. Don't be a bitch or crazy 4. Be attractive (to him at least) 5. Don't be fat (Just requires self control).
sounds more like myself than any male i've ever met
i think women. but let's be clear that guys can be equally as shallow, if not more so. the difference is that we guys actively act like 5 year olds, while i feel like girls try to act "more mature". in other words, we are more upfront about being shallow as opposed to girls not wanting to admit when they're being shallow.
This doesn't "generally hold true" at all. You can't make big blanket statements like this without research to back it up. And all the research says that everyone has their own preferences, and it has nothing to do with gender. Sure, there are guys who have reasonable standards and there are girls who are gold diggers, but the same exists for the opposite sex, too.
I would have to agree women have super high expectations. I do because I know what I'm looking for. It's not good to have a list, but it's good to have an idea of they guy you want to be dating. For a lot of man my age, a vagina is the only thing on their list.
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Depends on your definition. Women might have higher standards that have to be met before she lets a guy have sex with her, men have lower standards and will have sex with anyone that says yes.
So one could argue that men are shallow because they only want sex and will do anything to get it and accept it from anyone, women could be seen as less shallow because they need substance to the guy, not just looks, not just sex, but the whole package.
Not all guys are like that. Some guys have standards and they dont do anything for her to have sex but instead loke you said women do guys look for some qualities to get them turned on and are able to have sex. Most men aren't like that usually they go for sex but there are a few of us that dont do that and have standards.
To be fair, you need to be really desperate to have sex with just about anyone, and I don't think it is reasonable to assume that every guy is desperate and neither of them have any standards whatsoever.
@flakosky not all men. I assume people who can comprehend the English language know that I'm speaking in generalities, same as the asker was doing ๐
It's pretty split.
Women think men are more shallow and men think women are more shallow.
Typically, men are easy. We just want you to look nice/sexy and you're in. If you have a great personality, that will be factored in once we get to you know you. That's all.
Women, on the other hand, have a lot of requirements. You need to be a certain height, a certain weight, make a certain income, dress a certain way, have a certain personality, have some edge to you, have a beard... those are just examples... but women have a list of requirements before dating a guy, while men don't have that many requirements.
"Typically, men are easy. We just want you to look nice/sexy and you're in. If you have a great personality, that will be factored in once we get to you know you. That's all. "
Lol no. No self respecting man would ever begin committing to a girl just from her looks alone. Sure men will fuck a bad bitch/crazy girl but most men will not commit to a bitch which you can get off from meeting a chick a few time.
That is rather steriotypical, don't you think?
Men are not without fault.
And women are not all bad.
What I am saying here is that these statements are rather biased.
There are good men and good women, to make those kinds of generalizations is very dangerous.
Can't we just agree that society as a whole is shallow and that we all need to grow up and learn how to accept people. And not all men, or all women, are extremely shallow, there are a few that are from both genders, but that's like saying all black people are ghetto, its stereotyping. Individuals are shallow, not whole genders.
Okay. Your definition of women is repulsive. No offense. Girls like this are the reason that we all get a terrible reputation. When girls who are just looking to meet a nice guy, no matter how macho he is or how much money he makes, there is thag women's shallowness stereotype. :(
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hey.. it's unfair to say all women expect those things from men.
here are my requirements:
1) be a good person (by my standards)
2) make me laugh
3) be kind to me and respect me
4) be ambitious
5) value the same things i value in life and people
That's an unfair generalization, you can't label one sex more shallow than the other, because being shallow, (like so many other human flaws ie arrogance, ) simply aren't specific to one sex.
Your requirements aren't the standards everyone follows either, I certainly adhere more to the 'guy' standards.
Preach it
@annaboyd333 not trying to come off as 'preaching', and I apologize if I do, but I'm just sharing my opinion, but I don't expect anyone else to agree or support what I'm saying!
Some of the gender are like this. I don't care about how much a guy makes I don't need to be bought I have a job, a house, a dog, and a car all provided and paid for by myself. I know women can be like that but people should strive to be the exception to the rule. Guys can be pretty terrible too but I don't put them all into that category.
Women are much more shallow than men, in general. Besides, they can AFFORD to be shallow and take their pick, because men are supposed to initiate.
But by that logic, aren't they also confined to only being allowed to choose from initiators. Can they truly afford to be shallow on that logic?
Following this train of thought, as a man I can ask any woman out. Women may get to choose, but only from the selection they're given.
I can go back and ask again. She cannot go back and decide to take a man she passed up on.
At this point, can they afford to be shallow?
What if we exit heteronormativity and explore homo and bi sexuality? Does this mean just about all lesbian relationships are horribly shallow and gay relationships are deep and meaningful?
Does that observation hold true?
Too complicated. I tested this to find a definitive answer. I altered my tinder profile to say a bunch of bulls71+. Something like
โIโm back home after digging Wells in Ethiopia for the past six months. I like to do good things in my spare time so now Iโm back I do a weekend a month at the humane shelter to walk dogs with no human. I exercise a lot, mostly at home, so Iโm in good shape. I play hockey once a week in a minor league and have my black belt in jujitsu. Iโm not a rich man but Iโm a Cppa so I do pretty well, Iโm responsible. Looking for my forever lady! But Iโm 5โ6 so I hope thatโs not a problem โ
Crickets. Not a single response. I used pics of a reasonably handsome friend.
When my profile was literally โ6โ2, hit me up.โ I couldnโt answer them all. 😂😂
Honestly not all women are shallow, just usually the really hot ones that most guys value the most. And I've met some really shallow guys. My ex was super shallow and said he only dates "bad bitches with their shit together". This was a direct quote from him. To be fair all guys aren't shallow either It depends on the individual
Women by far, have higher standards for casual sex.
Men and women are probably just as picky about relationships but women tend to look for a wider range of traits in a relationship while men's list of traits are smaller but they are super picky about those few traits (looks, sexual history).
Both genders care about compatibility in a relationship.
Women are probably slightly more likely to compromise on their requirements for a marriage.
See... here's the thing... You look at all the stereotypical ways in which men complain about women being shallow, and there's usually some merit to these stories.
If you look at all the stereotypical ways in which women complain about men being shallow? It's usually nothing that men worry about, and just women being bitchy at each other.
I was going to say equally as shallow , it depends on the individual , but... I voted A men are more shallow , considering the above ridiculous assumption comes from a shallow minded man
If I was judging men and women by the calibre of people on GaG.. then I'd say the men are more shallow
😏😣
This question is unanswerable because it declares that one gender is better than the other. It's sexist to suggest that. Women and men are different, they have different roles and love in different ways. Their brains are literally wired differently. Frankly its the question itself that is "shallow".
lies... if girl isn't sexy enough or doesn't have a job guys dont want them guys are equally as shallow as girls and if not they are worse... cause if the girl isn't all that attractive without make up guys gont like them but us females date ugly ass guys aslong as they're loyal...
dont***... id say the top :
1. Be loyal
2. Be kind and show love towards him
3. Don't be a bitch or crazy
4. Be attractive (to him at least)
5. Don't be fat (Just requires self control).
sounds more like myself than any male i've ever met
guys dont care about loyalty they dont even know how to be loyal they quickly leave you for a "hotter female"
i think women. but let's be clear that guys can be equally as shallow, if not more so. the difference is that we guys actively act like 5 year olds, while i feel like girls try to act "more mature". in other words, we are more upfront about being shallow as opposed to girls not wanting to admit when they're being shallow.
This doesn't "generally hold true" at all. You can't make big blanket statements like this without research to back it up. And all the research says that everyone has their own preferences, and it has nothing to do with gender. Sure, there are guys who have reasonable standards and there are girls who are gold diggers, but the same exists for the opposite sex, too.
I would have to agree women have super high expectations. I do because I know what I'm looking for. It's not good to have a list, but it's good to have an idea of they guy you want to be dating. For a lot of man my age, a vagina is the only thing on their list.
Both gender are equally shallow. It alway take two to tango.
Not necessarily. Several of one gender can tango with the same partner over and over. nomasayin.