493 opinions shared on Relationships topic. Well I think it's a combination of two things.
First off, most women would rather be set on fire than to make the first move. This has the result of filtering out any guy who doesn't make a move. A lot of the guys who won't make a move don't do so because they are timid, which is a trait women don't want, but there are a lot of men who just genuinely don't know that the woman is interested in them. Very few guys frequently make moves on tons of women, so the dating game is automatically skewed heavily in their favor even though many of those guys are not really suitable.
The second reason is that women have unreasonable standards. This isn't to say that they have high standards, though they usually do because they may believe that they're more valuable than they really are. Women will filter out men over nonsense, like whether he paid for her dinner. It ultimately becomes a game where you succeed by meeting unreasonable demands and by building up attraction.
So I don't believe that women really have limited dating options, I think they unintentionally restrict their own dating life to the same types of men. They're surrounded by men who would be interested in getting to get to know them, but who don't ask out every woman they meet, don't know they are interested, aren't great conversationalists and/or aren't willing to play by women's bullshit rules. And as a result, you wind up with most women going after two major types of guys. The first guy is a guy who is genuinely very high value, but because women have so many restrictions most women want him. He is legitimately better than most of them so he won't even bother dating lower tier women, because why settle? If he does bother with lower tier women, it'll just be for fun and sex. The second guy is everyone else who can survive in the arbitrary world of women's dating. Most of these guys know the rules and use them to their advantage. They can have sex with women and be scumbags because they know how to play the game and most guys don't so there will always be more women wanting them.
I blame women for this reality, it's only possible because they expect men to abide by one-sided gender roles. If women want more dating options they need to date guys who don't fit their rigid, nonsensical preferences and who don't play by one-sided rules.21 Reply
Most Helpful Opinions
Because far to many women don't want an actual man, they want a sexy, general utility device, who looks like a man, and will impress their friends.
It also has to be the top shelf model, fully loaded, at 90% off, with extended warranty, and no hassell return policy, with a satisfaction guaranty policy that stipulates if your unhappy for any reason the General Utility Device can be returned at anytime for a full refund and it will pay you cash and prizes for the rest of your life to compensate for the inconvenience.147 Reply- +1 y
LOL truth
- +1 y
No we don't! Guys only want a trophy they can use to show off to their friends! They couldn't give two sh*ts what a woman's personality is like. I've seen plenty of guys go for rude and mean women, but they didn't care if she treated others like dirt. As long as she looked a certain way, they were ok with her!
- +1 y
@Magnolia1995 no he's only a little right my ex was like this when ever she would hear that her friend boyfriend did something nice for her. She would then look at me and be like how come you never do this or that for me? then when i do something nice for her she shows up to her for days or simply doesn't really ever notice it.
- +1 y
@Magnolia1995 also had our firsr real relationship breaking fight and she cried for weeks told me she loved me and expected me not to even try fighting for her. it was a forced break up by her parents like 1-2 months later she end up with someone else and blaming me for it 😂😂lol women that's the typle of shit i hate. Months later come back with the same my parents story said she loved me then the next day treated me like shit. %90 of women in their 20's are just too immuture or don't know what they want.
- +1 y
Cynicism is often more destructive than helpful
- +1 y
@BuchitaBuchys Yeah, fair point.
- +1 y
Lmao I think you mean what you MEN want. You men won’t blonde bombshells with fake tits that will make heads turn when you enter a room. Most women just want a decent looking guy who has a job and respects us.
- 846 opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yIsn't it the same for men? Lots of guys on here bitch about "slutty social media whores". And how "feminism destroyed women".
I feel that we all have high standards. Not ridiculously high, but yes they're high.
I don't care and I say people should. Why would I settle for less? I've done that 2x and they both cheated on me.
If I'm with someone, it's forever or for never. I'm planning to spend my life with this person, I want to be happy with them.
This is why the divorce rate is so high. People keep settling. I'm not saying that they have to be perfect, but there are plenty red flags in relationships.
She doesn't like your friends, he thinks her career is stupid, etc and they overlook it. Pretty soon, all those "overlooked miniscule" details add up and they realize they should have never been married.
I see lots of relationships between people and you can tell they're together because of time and not love.
In Spanish, we have a saying "es verdad que el costumbre es más fuerte que el amor."
"It's true that being accustomed is stronger than being in love."
And of course:
"Es mejor estar sola que mal accompañada"
"Better to be alone than in bad company".
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images195 Reply
Asker+1 ywell said :)
- +1 y
We have a saying in the usa her friends or not my friends.. his friends are not my friend so shouldn't matter if i like them or not as long as i show them respected. My new girlfriend friend hates me and didn't show up to my girlfriend birthday becuase i was their so my girlfriend dropped her ass like a bad habit. I think red flags are guys that try controlling you or don't try getting alone with your friends or family. But i understand what your saying
- +1 y
Thank you @asker
+1 yWe are at the day and age of Internet... blame the Internet women are being exposed to all sorts- try dating for instance, men who aren't single are tryin their luck to snap up unattached females through deceit and lies. Because the ratio of men as there is to women on these sites there's only so much penis pictures a woman can muster before she concludes that all men are the same. It is sad for men who are genuine but the fakes are good at what they do and put a dampener on a women's mind set.
men either need to up there game or lose out to asshole everytime.
same with men as well... they get the opposite , women get told their gorgeous and beautiful all the time which gives them a huge ego, how can decent men compete with men stroking the egos of women?
I've given up on dating anyway, not because there isn't A lack of suitable men, there is plenty who give up to Easy...146 Reply- +1 y
I'd say it's not so much giving up too easy, but rather many are not willing to compromise who they are as people to garner the attention. My trip through the sites made me feel like I was in a peacock show, and to large extent made me lose faith in humanity. I had to actively deceive to get anywhere, and that goes against my principles. If intelligence, integrity, and having my life in order are not enough, then why even bother anymore.
- +1 y
I do feel for you.. I've given up to.. at first I was flattered to be called beautiful and gorgeous and theni got bored.. because if they are calling me beautiful and gorgeous when I'm not theyre calling everyone that... but most women preen on this whereas some like me roll out eyes and I do believe men feed the egos of women making them out to believe they are Sharon stone or the next top model.. so it does turn back on men as well... I think eventually once these sort of women have learned a lesson and be used enough they will hunt down decent men.. if they aren't already snapped up.. there is nothing wrong with a white lie or two women do it on those sites all the time... if ever they come across as thinkin their to good for u.. stop them dead in their tracks and reply nice filter by the way do u do original? I think ur gunna have to go the old fashioned way- and go to pubs and clubs to find a suitable partner
- +1 y
Pubs and clubs can also be a bit of a peacock show, heavy on the superficiality since it's still an environment where first impressions are the primary basis of attraction (though I found it useful before to help me cultivate that side).
I think in your case networking would do the charm -- just live life, put yourself out there, make lots and lots of friends. You should meet some genuine guys along the way who are quite good-looking and don't just gather around you feeding you desperate compliments to try to get you in their bedroom. - +1 y
@Brokenheartedx you're funny for thinking you can find a decent person in a bar
- +1 y
Better than the internet.. the 3 blue thumbs down from men are no doubt the ones treating this place like a dating site as well.. even on here getting stupid messages I ignore the lot as don't know how to switch it off.
- +1 y
I’m a woman and I’ve never been told I’m gorgeous and beautiful. Get over yourself and get out of ur delusional fantasy land and pretending like u know what it’s like to be a woman.
+1 yIt's not just women... it's men too! I think the whole online dating thing has fostered a culture of instant gratification and quite honestly, laziness.
Back in the day people had to get after it a lot more: pick her up, take her out, try and make your move, etc.
Now people can pick out potential partners with the swipe of a finger and order sex the same way they order a pizza. If we're all making it that easy for each other to get all the perks of a relationship without actually being in one, then why try and raise the bar to actually include real human emotions?
This is just where we're at as a society.73 Reply
Asker+1 yi so agree with this, thank you
- +1 y
So true. Meeting people out and about is always the best way to go a out it.
What Girls & Guys Said
Opinion
37Opinion
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThe problem with women is they all tend to go for the same small pool of men. And unfortunately for many of these women they are unable to get those small pool of men because other women who are deemed more preferable are given the nod.
Those women then become angry, bitter, jaded and ultimately settle for someone they really don't want to be with.
Another common trend is that a woman will typically enjoy her twenties, it's her peak decade before her stock significantly decreases and what she fails to realize is that a man's stock increases when he's in his thirties and a lot of men in their thirties will attract women in their twenties and if you're a typical man who is in shape, has his life together why would you choose a 35 year old woman over a 25 year old woman? It makes no sense, the 25 year old is clearly the better option. Less miles on the clock, less baggage and so on.
Women also pick lousy men and you'll find women who pick poor quality men are locked into a cycle where that's the only kind of man they attract and can keep.
Yeah it sucks to be a woman at times, but fortunately there are some great women out there who do not subscribe to any of the above.21 Reply- +1 y
Less miles on the clock? Who uses that phrase. Da fuq.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yIt's a joke. Cos:
1. Women pretend to not know their good guy friend likes them even if they are attractive. Lest they lose a potential male in their lives.
2. Then they complain the other guys treat her bad. But she'll sleep with them nevertheless.
3. Again they fail to see guys being nice to them as them liking her. She thinks that they are just good people. And that she must somehow look for good qualities in the guys who treat her bad. Which will never happen.
4. Proceeds to say the dating pool is limited.75 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 y@snowangle
There are guys to blame - the minority of players. But ultimately the girls go with them. There are probably a dozen guys in her social circle who are nice in general, but also extra nice to her for a reason.
Opinion Owner+1 y@snowangle You agree?
Opinion Owner+1 y@snowangle Ok then check this question out. You can see guy 1 here is going to lose: www.girlsaskguys.com/.../q2060297-can-you-explain-why-women-appear-less-innocent-around-less-good-guys
I told this guy but he disagrees.
What is going on is something that Milo Yiannopoulos referred to as the Sexodus, in a two-part article that was published by Britebart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwPFnvniA7w
See:
www.breitbart.com/.../
and:
www.breitbart.com/.../
Paul Joseph Watson (Infowars) produced an informative video, based on Milo's article.
See:11 Replyhahahah, waaay more answers from guys complaining about women than answers from women, I was expecting this when I saw the question
the ones who don't find a man are either:
-immature with very high expectations of a male actor
-meeting lots of assholes and lots of assholes that consider themselves being the nice guys
-maybe they just didn't find a good match for them, doesn't mean there are no great men left
Still I think you should find a person and have a relationship with them because you really like them instead of trying to find someone to like because you want a relationship34 Reply- +1 y
@skykidx1 not really, there are lots of amazing men and women that are not shallow but when you're focusing your attention on things like sterotyping people, you won't be able to find any great people but people that fit your stereotypes, because you start to see them that way even if they're not.
This is why everyone should keep an open mind and stay positive, not everyone is the same but everyone will be if you want them to - +1 y
Maybe so but my new girlfriend makes more money then me and everything she also nothing like any girl i ever date.. She loves me and i think she's one of a kind she also thinks too manny people want a finished product. And i never in my life really stereotype anyone till i break up with 1 of my ex and 1 of her reason's for dating her new guy was nothing but shallow never said once i love him. but thats my ex so no longer care about her.
+1 yThey say lack of suitable men,
(a) Too much nice guys on the pool.
(b) Not much rich guys on the pool.
(c) Not giving away their vagina just because they're self ''entitled'' to be treated like a princess.
(d) They're looking to attain as much attention as possible, like fat chicks, because they can't get a handsome, rich guy. That dude? Is already having sex with a hot chick.41 Reply- +1 y
Asking to be treated with respect and care is not asking to be treated like a princess. Hope you die single moron.
+1 yOn Match. Com three months, 108 short hand tailored messages emails based on careful reading of profiles, three so-so dates. Final post read, "It has been an interesting experience for me being on the site. I wish you ladies much, much luck finding someone with the looks and charisma of George Clooney, the wealth of Bill Gates, the humor of Woody Allen and the compassion of the Dalai Lama."
Because I did not put a snark alert, I was astonished at the number of women who took me seriously.
To which I can only, I wish you much luck with your ever increasing shopping lists. Might go a long way to explaining why American women's happiness has been declining 1% per year since the 1970s. (google The Paradox of Declining Women's Happiness).40 Reply
+1 y222 Reply
+1 yYeah i said that too when i go into college and out of girls in my lectures few were ot but also taken, i thought " fk no girls to date iam never lucky when it comes to dating iam either too late or no girls around " ... so in short they want a good looking man with a good job who's not a total asshole but not exactly her bitch
40 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI think the internet has opened a can of worms so to speak, to quick gratification. It's made it difficult to actually take things slow if you want to, so you may get to know the guy at your comfortable pace. If you go too slow, you're a prude and he goes off to find someone else. If you go too fast, you are labeled a slut.
Both genders face issues in this day and age. For me, it's finding the balance of my comfort zone but also finding the right person. It hasn't been too successful yet, but who knows what will happen later on.20 Reply
+1 yPost "women only want Chad Thundercock" number #826392
63 Reply- +1 y
Lol at Chad Thundercock reference
- 872 opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yBecause many younger women have no clue what they want and way too high standards due to sexual economics (around 20 years of age is the peak for women in terms of being desired)
71 Reply- +1 y
20 year old women are not mentally at their peak nor are they financially ready to settle down. Good luck paying her bills lmao
- 5.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 ylol they complain on a very high level... if they think, the dating pool is limited for women, they should try dating as a man... there´s not only a lack of "suitable women" but a lack of women in general.
67 Reply- +1 y
@Jager66 well fat women don´t count as "suitable" for me personally but what do you think why a lot of dating sites are free for women, pay for men... cause dating sites are a huge sausage fest.
- +1 y
@snowangle dunno if that exists in your area but lovoo for example and basically all of those sites dedicated to find hookups.
- +1 y
@snowangle i mean you somehow have to get at least "somewhat" close to 50:50 or else your dating site is shit.
- 1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yThose women are just sad and desperate. The ratio of single men to women is actually in women's favor. There's a ton of single guys, but the women who complain are either mean, fat or have no personality.
51 Reply- +1 y
@what_the_hell what's your problem?
+1 yI think that at this day and age, some people think that in years gone by it was easy, it was just as hard - Good things come to those who are patient.
40 Reply1.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic. Well... either most men suck or their definition of "suitable" is too restricting.
Take your pick.50 ReplyThey need to get out more and also need to work on their confidence. People tend to gravitate toward positive individuals.
30 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yBecause the standards are high. Women don't need a man (wanting and needing are not the same thing) and so they have no reason to settle for someone they don't want. Instead they wait for someone that they really want and that meets their standards. Most men are not what these women are looking for so the dating pool seem small.
10 Reply
+1 yWomen want either Benedict Cumberbatch or Channing Tatum. If you are neither, you fail.
63 Reply- +1 y
Benedict is ugly
- +1 y
Women with those kind of standards are guaranteeing themselves a miserable and high insecure lifestyle.
- +1 y
@Pacificblue62 Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!
With me, it's because I live in the United States of America. Women are far worse that what they used to be, especially with that new age feminism crap going on. And if you try to bring in a foreign woman, they become stuck up just like our domestic bitches.
Let's also not forget that a lot of American women are becoming fatter and fatter, due to this obesity epidemic.
I don't want to be misogynist, but that's what a lot of these rotten American women make us do.12 Reply- +1 y
Lol you are such a loserrr. You sound like a SOB I had to dump. It’s 2023 bitches, not the 1959s so get over it and stop bitching and complaining about women not complying with ur ridiculous demands of tolerating your bs.
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThe ones who say that have high standards. I have never been asked out in my life because I am ugly.
11 Reply
Asker+1 yAww, well i'm one of those guys that looks at personality more than anything. My current girlfriend is not even a quarter of a model, but she has a beautiful heart and i feel drawn to her emotionally.
It's generally because the guys they find suitable don't find them suitable...
40 Reply- 730 opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yBecause they'll only consider thugs and men that are among the top 2% of men in appearance, physique, AND social status.
That eliminates 80% of men.10 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWell women require more from a man than a man requires from a woman plus with all these guys as well as family and friends inflating their egos by telling them how beautiful they are it creates a lot a lot of paranoia from women because they think every guy that compliments them is desperate which weeds a lot of guys out of the dating pool so she will likely go for who is desired by other women such as a pretty boy or player without ever realizing it.
10 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yUnrealistically high standards. But that's what happens when guys become too thirsty and make themselves too available for women.
44 Reply
Opinion Owner+1 y@snowangle Those may be YOUR standards but that's not THE standard.
Opinion Owner+1 y@snowangle Everyones different but online dating research does show how women are vastly more successful when they show interest in a man than the other way around.
+1 yMany guys just aren't physically attractive.
I can relate. Most girls aren't physically attractive to me either. It's like 1 in 12020 Reply
+1 yThe same reason that guys complain about there aren't a lot of women out there to date. It's not just women who are doing that.
10 Reply
Anonymous(30-35)+1 yi honestly think that womens standards are way too high..
secondly, they react too harshly and go wild about something that isn't a big deal.. I've seen women over react way too much40 Reply- 3.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yThe majority of men like the same type of woman, so onces someone deviates from that their dating pool becomes more and more limited. In a way, the same thing happens with men. Which is why the majority of people settle at a certain point in life.
00 Reply
+1 yThey're picky. And reject a lot of guys and don't ask guys out but mainly wait for the right guys to ask them out. Women who do that are creating their own issues. It's a downside with not being more flexible and open minded.
22 Reply- +1 y
All the guys that hit on us only want a quick hook up. Never a relationship.
The actual "good guys" have in their stuck up little minds that they want a trophy to show off.
Women can't win either way! We're nothing but object to them. - +1 y
@Magnolia1995 Actually some of us do. Don't generalize like that. There are good women and good men and bad women and bad men. not all guys are the same and not all girls are the same. I personally hate hookups and only want a relationship and there are definitely others that feel the same way. Just have to find the right people. Not always the ones at clubs and bars.
I find that most guys only want hookups. Thats just from my experince. Or they were looking for a quick fling/just someone to date for a bit.
15 Reply
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yWomen like that deserve to be unhappy. Many of them live in fairy tales and feminism doesn't help. They should accept what is on offer.
57 Reply- +1 y
Lol yeah, let's just settle down with a guy with a jerk with no job and no education because he's what's available.
I need a man who will be good for my future family, and I won't settle on that. It's not living in a fairytale; it's making good choices. And screw feminism for making us believe we deserve to have choices! 😜 - +1 y
@snowangle I think what is important here is when to accept a good offer, rather than holding out for the best offer. Example, consider selling a house. On the flip side for a man it would be like buying a house, you might think "hey this house is awesome!" But if your offer isn't reasonable it will be rejected and you may be without a house for quite some time. I'll give myself as an example, I won't invest much time and energy into a woman who only dates black men, because I don't have to offer what she is willing to accept. Also, if I do present a good offer to a woman it's reasonable for me to believe she will accept unless she is holding out for the best possible or even worst unattainable.
- +1 y
@snowangle are you serious? Most women walk all over the successful and educated man, to be with the bad boy that's broke jobless and couldn't support themselves barely
- +1 y
@snowangle most women like guys that are "jerk"
- +1 y
@goodman101 I wouldn't know what "most women" do; my group of friends and I have always been interested in decent men. Maybe you're going after the wrong women? Anyway, my only point was that I shouldn't be shamed for having standards. I won't date just anyone.
@Flurr I can't speak for all women, but I, at least, know what I can compromise on in a relationship and what is a deal breaker. If an okay guy makes me an offer - he's not a bum, but he does show a red flag for me - then I already know it isn't going to work. No sense in wasting both our time. And, respectfully, who are you to tell me that my reasons for rejecting a man aren't good enough? - +1 y
@snowangle can I have a quote please, there may be some miscommunication.
- +1 y
@Flurr I didn't really follow the whole buying a house comparison. I just took your main point of "when to accept a good offer vs holding out for the best offer." I just think I can decide for myself what a good offer is. I notice a lot of guys tend to like to think they know what's best for a girl.
For example, a few years ago, I had a guy friend who was pretty much the stereotypical "nice guy in the friend zone." I had a guy tell me I was wrong to reject him, but I knew he wasn't what I was looking for. He was insecure, awkward, not very bright, didn't share my religion (which is important), basically did nothing but play video games all day, not to mention he lived nearly 2 hours away. Saying he was a "nice guy who deserved a chance" was just over simplifying the whole situation. But that's another can of worms.
Basically, my point is, don't judge a girl for rejecting what you think is a good offer. I guarantee the girl has her reasons for turning it down.
Women are being pumped and dumped on a grand scale. Because MGTOW.
31 Reply- +1 y
lLOSER alert
Women only get to choose from the guys that approach them so there most likely going to end up with a player :/ such is life
10 ReplyMisconceived ideas and susceptibility to propaganda.
00 Reply
+1 yoh well it is what it is, whether you like it or not
00 Reply
+1 yShallowness + pickyness. They basically only want rich sugardaddies, supermodels or assholes then regret it later.
00 Reply
+1 ythey are in denial that they arnt as hot as they think they are.
01 Reply- +1 y
Definitely hotter than you
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 ySince when? When you go on those sites online there is like 50 guys for every woman on there
00 Reply- 1.3K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yI thought women didn't need or want men anymore !!
20 Reply 1.1K opinions shared on Relationships topic. We're usually more selective, it's our nature.
22 Reply- +1 y
and how is that working out for ya
- +1 y
@CancerianMan81 Pretty good :3 I've got a boyfriend, celebrating two years in the next two weeks.
- 2.5K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 yToo high standards.
40 Reply
+1 yBecause all the good ones are already taken.
10 ReplyI've never heard this
10 Reply- 1.4K opinions shared on Relationships topic.
+1 ypoor parenting and the media.
00 Reply
+1 yOnline dating has destroyed dating in this age.
00 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI feel like my pool's limited.
00 Reply
Learn more
We're glad to see you liked this post.
You can also add your opinion below!
Girl's Behavior
Guy's Behavior
Flirting
Dating
Relationships
Fashion & Beauty
Health & Fitness
Marriage & Weddings
Shopping & Gifts
Technology & Internet
Break Up & Divorce
Education & Career
Entertainment & Arts
Family & Friends
Food & Beverage
Hobbies & Leisure
Other
Religion & Spirituality
Society & Politics
Sports
Travel
Trending & News
Most Helpful Opinions