Dating is much easier for women?

[Anonymous]

It seems like women have more options and it seems like men are far more attracted to women than women are to men.

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Women are attracted to a small percentage of men, while men are attracted to a much bigger percentage of women. That's a big reason why dating is easier for women.

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[CreativeMumble]

If you are talking about biology so much, then lets answer in that way.

Sure, there might be more men who pursue women than the other way around.
The same goes for nature.
There are a lot of suitors, but the female won't just take the first guy just to be with someone.
The female wants to choose the best possible male they can get, to reproduce the best possible children.

Just because women might have more options in this point of view it doesn't mean it's easier for them to date.

This is how it is in nature with animals. Men biologically are wired to reproduce as much as possible, so they try to get as many chances as possible.
As for the women are wired to find the best suitable mate and therefore has to screen for the best mate to reproduce the better quality offsprings.

[Asker]

You basically are giving the reasons why I am right. Your 3rd paragraph doesn't coincide with the rest of your argument.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

Men just look for biological cues.

Women seek for biological and resourceful cues.

Women can die in childbirth so its riskier naturally to just hitch up with any ol guy.

Men dont have a risk like this so a non resourceful partner is no big deal.

Just a healthy one able to bear a healthy baby.

What men see:

Beautiful face
Healthy bouncy hair
Supple breasts
Good female build
Smooth clear skin
Clean non infected girl musk

What his inner nature sees:

Bear your child
Bear your child
Bear your child
Bear your child
Bear your child

Take another shot

Now she too, can bear your child.

[Asker]

You are just describing why I am right. And also making women sound like prostitutes.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

1.) Because you are right.

2.) Not sure how any of the ladder conveys prostitution, since men are the ones trying to stick themselves into anything they can lol

Remember, you guys are the less picky, more attracted sex

😂

[Asker]

Prostitution because women need resources from men before they date and in turn sleep with them. Women are prostitutes, men are johns.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

Duh, you're not the one whose body is getting ripped open and potentially dying to birth a child.

Relationships are biologically costly to women, and men dont invest anything biological wise, so they invest resourcefully.

Like what is the issue? You have a problem being able to adequately provide for yourself and family?

You should feel good being able to flaunt your "resources" lol

Only people who complain are those who lack.

[Asker]

So you admit women are whores, nice. The women should contribute financially too. I am actually rich (well my father is and I have a high position in his company). why should I be proud of the fact that I have to buy a women? That biologically makes me a beta male.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

I guess female deers are whores too for wanting the strongest mate lol

Who said these women aren't financially stable?

You are clueless. you're no "beta male."

Offspring should also inherit their father's wisdom as a resource, which makes you an omega for lacking that.

Its so simple I can't believe such a "high positioned," person can't get it.

We learned this in high school biology, 9th grade lol

[Asker]

Stop ignoring affect and effect, I know everything you speak of in a detalied manner. I could even be verbose in my replies with a eclectic array of information. The thing is women would fervidly deny that they are prostitutes, yet you describe them as such by any analytic and semantic scrutiny. You said "duh" before that women are prostitutes, yet now you deny they are whores? Your deer comparison isn't the same, as with women... they require financial domestic subsidies before they sleep with you, literally paying for sex, that is prostitution. I purposely hide my wealth from women in order to weed out the whores.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

Duh as in - women having resourceful cues. You identify it as being a "whore" when a whore is a woman who exchanges sex for money.

How do you explain women who date men who make less than them or are poor? How about men who dont even date them but they have sex anyway?

Lol you have no common sense.

A male deer has to get his skull bashed in before he can mate, male birds of paradise sometimes starve to death focusing on impressing females, male tarantulas die on their epic journey to breed with females - why dont you tell the guys to quit being so focused on what to do to be impressive to women, because they seem to be happy doing it.

Your money is garbage.

All that "beta status" and your complaining about gold diggers on some random forum.

Greed is not sexist - theyre just greedy and see men as a means to get more than what they need.

All ya need is food, water and shelter lol, a job at McDonalds covers that ha ha

[Asker]

Then I misunderstood your initial post, thought you meant that his money was a prerequisite... a must. Though her having more money than him doesn't matter, prostitutes do often have more money than their clients, what matters is if she needs him to offer money in some regard before she sleeps with him. Although humans resorted to monogamy as to avoid the extreme nature of courting the animals you mentioned have to endure... so that most men can get sex and so that most women can get commitment and protection (if we didn't the men not getting sex would just rape the women and kill the top males). Men still have to be or do stupid things to attract women because of the higher sexual value of women, it's the abuse of this power that makes women prostitutes.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

"Abuse of this power that makes woman prostitutes-"

Phew Im glad some logic finally broke through there.

You want to know who made the "rule" that men have to shovel out before getting the girl?

Men did.

The most traditional way was presenting livestock or goods to a woman's father who then decided you were worthy of HIS daughters hand in marriage.

Women had virtually no authority in courtship for centuries, and if dad didn't approve, it was a firm no.

So why did men still act very resourcefully? To prove he would be a suitable mate in providing for her and their offspring.

Who decided a woman's place was in the home only?

Men.

Guys pressure each other to be as resourceful as possible, whilst praising the women who are just pretty but do nothing for themselves.

I even read a question about a successful, wealthy woman, and ALL the men said they felt intimidated by her wealth and success.

What do you want? A gold digger or a self-sufficient companion?

[Asker]

And those constructs made by men have biologivally shaped female sexuality, women are now innately hypergamous. Men now do these things as women require them. It comes down to the fact that 1% of men can knock up all women, eggs are more rare than sperm thus worth more. Men are naturally more sexually attracted to women than vice versa, men need to offer more than sex to get sex that's why it's prostitution. Men value pretty women more as women are innate sex objects and they don't need anything more to be attractive or valuable, her other traits are secondary. Men will be intimidated by a rich women as they will think she will expect more from him as per her hypergamous nature.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

"It comes down to the fact that 1% of men can knock up all women, eggs are more rare than sperm thus worth more."

Wow - so we are naturally hypergamous because nature made us with less eggs, and forced men to naturally make constructs to impregnate us. Nature made us prostitutes?

You destroyed your own argument - thats like saying all humans are murderers since we have a natural instinct to kill.

We can't just be born with less rare eggs and a non hypergamous nature, just as much as men can not be born with the natural instinct to appease a females hypergamous programming.
You also pointed out that the women who 'abuse' (ie take advantage of this natural programming) by over exaggerating their standards due to their own greed, are the actual prostitutes, not pertaining to all women.

I can't believe you just accused an entire gender for something adherently apart of our nature, then tried to defend men as if being as resourceful as possible isn't your natural programming?

[Asker]

I was vague, I didn't call all women prostitutes, just a lot of women. As per the offer of sex from a man being worth less than an offer of sex from a women, thus logically a lot of women will demand more than a man's offer of sex to give him sex.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

True, but its only due to the fact that we can become pregnant each time we have sex. That is dumb to open your legs to every guy, hence why when birth control became so prevalent in society, so did abortion and unexpected pregnancy rates.

Imagine if you as a man had a 1-98%% chance to have the skin on your leg scraped off to the muscle each time you had sex. Though 1% is low, the experience of having that happen is frightening.

Pregnancy risk is like that. I may be on my birth control, but that can fail very unexpectedly, with any guy, which means the more I have sex, the more likely I am to be impregnated by this random guy. Which you can die in birth so its serious stuff.

Men dont invest anything except some sperm and can even run away from the responsibility of fatherhood.

Those hypergamous traits were put in place to help establish a dual parenting relationship - if he can be resourcefully reliable before offspring, he will do so with his.

[Asker]

Once again affect and effect, those women are still prostitutes.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

If their interest is money or whatever then I have no argument there.

Honestly I dont get why not be self sufficient. Its just being an adult - besides if you break. up with them, they have nothing to maintain their greedy lavish desires.

Truly I feel really sorry you have a pool of such plastic women. I read an article about how successful men face this difficulty a lot in dating, as these women see your wallet before they see a humam being with a heart and mind to be a great partner.

Bah. I love to take my boyfriend to expensive places and buy him nice things just to make him know how honored I am to be his girl.

[Asker]

You are describing a golddigger not a prostitute, a prostitute simply has to have the financial as a prerequisite to dating and in turn sex. It doesn't have to be the main interest.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

Well shit, he should at least be an adult and have a job. Not taking care of no grown man, nor expecting him to take care of me lol

Just be self sufficient.

[Asker]

I guess me having money attracts women who are esstentially prostitutes. The thing is though, a women with money will not attract such men (well it is at least rare), and that's the point.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

But if men are more attracted to women, then her wealth wouldn't matter right?

[Asker]

Her wealth doesn't matter.

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

You said:

"The thing is though, a women with money will not attract such men (well it is at least rare), and that's the point."

Why would such men suddenly not be attracted?

[Asker]

Such men would be men after a women's money, rich women don't attract these men. Get it?

[oOsecret_starlandsOo]

Rich women dont attract gold digging men?

[Asker]

It happens, but it's far more rare.

[Asker]

Tell me how I am wrong? You agree with me, you just don't know enough to realize it.

[samhradh_leannan]

It's true that men are expected to make more effort in terms of approaching women and initiating contact. So in that specific sense, yes, dating is harder for men. But in a way, that actually makes dating more difficult for many women, too. Only the very most attractive women will constantly get approached by guys. If you're a woman who isn't attractive enough to get much attention from men, and you're also in a position where you're expected not to make the first move, then you're kind of stuck. Not that I personally think women shouldn't make the first move, but it's still a tricky subject for our society as a whole.

[samhradh_leannan]

Basically I think that how attractive you are plays a far greater role in how easy or difficult it is for you to date than gender does. But that also impacts each gender in different ways.

[Asker]

Men will be more attracted to a 5/10 women than women will be to a 7/10 man. And women can make the first move, most guys would actually like that.

[samhradh_leannan]

Maybe, but those ratings are also completely subjective and every individual person has their own preferences and specific things that they like or dislike in a partner. What’s a 5 to you may be a 7 or a 3 to someone else. We also have to consider the difference between hookups and actual relationships, in terms of which one is easier for each gender to achieve versus which one they are ultimately looking for.

[Asker]

Both a hookups and relationships are easier for women. Once a couple is in a relationship it is fairly equal, but getting into that relationship in the first place is easier for women.

[samhradh_leannan]

Don’t you think maybe you just feel that way because you are a guy?

I’ll agree that it’s easier for a woman to find a hookup, at least if she’s not completely hideous. Men probably do have lower standards when it comes to casual sex. But it’s definitely just as difficult for a woman to time a serious relationship. There are so many factors that will impact how easily a person can find a compatible long term partner. It’s hard for anyone.

[Asker]

The only thing that makes it hard for women is their own unreasonably high standards

[samhradh_leannan]

A person of either gender can have a hard time dating no matter how reasonable their standards are. It’s tough out there. But having unreasonable standards will definitely make it more difficult- and that’s an issue men are sometimes guilty of as well.

[Asker]

Women are guilty of it far more often.

[samhradh_leannan]

I think it probably seems that way to you because you’re a guy.

[Asker]

No because biologically women have more innate sexual value.

[samhradh_leannan]

True. A woman’s instinct is to choose one mate who will be a good partner and parent. A man’s instinct is just to spread his seed far and wide. However, people of both genders overcome their biology every day. It’s not like the majority of guys will date literally anyone. Sleep with literally anyone, maybe. Date, no.

[Asker]

I am not saying men don't have standards that have to be met before they sleep or date with a women, it's just far lower than womens'

[Asker]

You have power over your actions, not your desires.

[samhradh_leannan]

I think men may have lower standards when it comes to casual sex, but when it comes to relationships, their standards are probably as high as women’s, on average. Of course, it ultimately depends on the individual.

[Asker]

Imagine you are immediatly sexually attracted to like 7-8 random men a day, wouldn't you be more inclined to get into a relationship? The sexual attraction difference makes a huge... difference to dating in general.

[samhradh_leannan]

I would happily date 7-8 of the men that I see in a day, if I was single. Probably more. Yes, women are probably pickier I’m a way- it makes sense if you consider our biology versus a man’s biology. But if you’re a decent person who maintains basic personal hygiene and isn’t an asshole, there ARE women out there who will date you. If you’re not too bitter towards them to notice.

[Asker]

Women are probably pickier? Aren't you basically saying I am right in saying that? And you seem almost neutral on those "7-8 men", like you aren't physically attracted to them but you would take them anyway.

[samhradh_leannan]

I would agree that women are pickier in certain ways. I wouldn’t agree that dating is much easier for women over all. Easier for the most attractive women? Absolutely. Easier for all women? Definitely not. And again, if you are a decent person who is going to a reasonable amount of effort to make yourself attractive, then there will be people who will date you. Only the most attractive women have men constantly swooning over them. Trust me, that’s not what it’s like for an average girl.

[Asker]

And my comment about those men being neatral and not physically attractive to you yet you would take them anyway?

[samhradh_leannan]

I don’t know how to answer that because I don’t really know what you mean. I’m not sure where you’re getting this idea that if I would date someone (based on their appearance which is all I have to go off of at that point) I feel neutral towards them. Isn’t that kind of contradictory?

[Asker]

I didn't explain myself well I think. Like you see that he is somewhat put together and you think it ( a relationship) might work on some level, but you don't really have any primal attraction to him.

[samhradh_leannan]

No, but I’m a misleading example, because because I’m not a person who operates that way. I never feel that much sexual attraction towards a guy until I know him well and trust him- even if he’s extremely attractive. If I understand the definitions correctly, I’m demisexual. But most women aren’t. So again, I’m a misleading example here.

[Asker]

Yeah you are demisexual then, which wouldn't be a good example of sexual attraction. If I didn't feel sexual attraction to a women at first site, I wouldn't have any motivation to date women.

[samhradh_leannan]

I can feel kind of a baseline attraction or interest, but I don’t feel a real desire to actually have sex with someone until there’s more of an emotional connection. However, the majority of girls are not that way.

[Asker]

I am like the opposite, if I don't have an immediate desire to sleep with them, I won't have any desire to get to know them or start a relationship.

[samhradh_leannan]

A lot of people are like that.

[izzyq]

That's really hard to say because it really depends on the person you're trying to date because a lot of men tend to be really picky when it comes to other women but people also forget that women are the same, dating in general is hard for a lot of people because everyone has her own little things are looking for and a vast majority of people don't make the cut for the individual

[sc15022]

From what I understand, at the early stages women have it easy. But once they hit the wall at around their early 30's it becomes much harder. It's harder for us early until we acquire resources and become better educated and better in our careers. Men age like wine, women age like milk

[sc15022]

Anon understands the 80/20 rule 👌👌

[Asker]

That just paints women as prostiutes attracted to a man's money.

[sc15022]

I'm talking about that 80% of women are attracted to 20% of the men and vice versa. You mentioned it on your first update 😂

[Asker]

You talk about aquiring resources which will attract them

[sc15022]

That factors into the rule too, but it also talks about how a woman who's a 6 won't settle for a man of equal caliber and will usually chase 8's or 9's. Men are more likely to settle early in our 20's because we're desperate for sex. However it works in reverse when you talk about a 35 year old man vs a 35 year old woman.

[soul1110]

In a very superficial level, maybe- right under the tip of the iceberg, however, this needs a bit of context. For one, biology makes women naturally "pickier" because they have a lot more to lose than men when it comes to concieving (aka, what subconcious attraction is based on). This means they can't afford to be with any guy that don't hold solid qualities of what makes a man (and to be honest, they might have a point).

Now, us men- while women are a lot pickier, we're also a lot more... desperate, pretty much. Our biology is literally catered towards quantity, rather than quality. That's why the balance is so disproportionate.

Maybe it's true women should be less picky, but on things that matter (nothing regarding how many degrees he has, money, superficial things like that). And us men, we could afford to be a bit pickier if we want to find better-quality mates.

[MissDyno]

Yes it may appear that women have it easier because when you have many guys going after one girl, it is only natural that they will be picky. If guys as a collective decide to be just as picky with the girls, then I can garuntee you women will not have it as easy as they once did.

[Asker]

Being picky would only make it harder for men, beggers can't be chosers.

[Cosytoasty]

Sex might be easier for women, commitment and relationships are easier for men to get.

Actually, if you’re halfway decent at most areas of life, men have plenty of options too. Women can indeed drop a few points in some areas and still get dates.

[Unit1]

I will try to be as unbiased but I couldn't help but notice, that boys tend to send countless of dick pictures to the girls. The girls don't even have to try and get these pictures without even asking for them.

Also I believe most approaches are initiated by men. So it seems, that women have the upper hand here.

But in general I agree what one anonymous said. It's easy for attractive people, not so much for unattractive people.

[Anonymous]

Only pretty and outgoing women.

Unattractive and/or shy women often sit at home feeling insanely insecure and inferior.

[Opinion Owner]

Also, being seen as a set of orfices to jam into isn’t exactly fun. It can feel like the guy is just looking for anywhere to make his deposit. It’s not confidence-building because you aren’t really desired. It’s like saying people have good feelings towards public bathrooms because they have an urge to use them.

[Lynzerilee]

Bless you :)

[Asker]

It at least shows men are far more sexually attracted to women than women are to men.

[Opinion Owner]

Indiscriminate lust isn’t the same as attraction, exactly.

[Asker]

It isn't indiscriminate, the girl has to be half decent looking. And that is sexual attraction.

[jacquesvol]

Men created that 'problem' themselves.
Men have more respect for women saying 'no' , thus more say 'no', creating a shortage.

[Asker]

Men do not have more respect when a women rejects them what the hell?

[jacquesvol]

The word 'slut' is overused.

[LittleSally]

In my opinion - men who believe this always seem to be inclined to play the victim... and don't really see the world for what it is.
I know as many single women and I do men... if not even more women...

You can't just judge the world by what you wish it was so you don't have to take any responsibility for what is or isn't happening in your life - that's what cowards do.

[LittleSally]

*... single women AS I do men...

[Asker]

The only thing that makes those women single is their own unreasonably high standards. They get offers and reject the guys. The guys who are single are getting rejected.

[LittleSally]

Not at all... See... this is what I mean... But okay, fine, believe what you want and totally disregard any logical answers or poll results...

I guess it IS comforting living in denial.

[Asker]

You really think women are as attracted to men as men are to women? Women are generally attracted to a small percentage of men, like 10 to 20% while men are attracted to like 40 to 50%. It's biology, a small amount if penises can knock up all the wonen, eggs are more rare than sperm thus worth more.

[Asker]

*women

[Asker]

The other women who commented is complaining about how much dick she is being offered. You hear guys complaing about girls throwing themselves at them?

[LittleSally]

*Btw., your Q was about dating, not getting unwanted nudes or getting sex offers... Contrary to what you'd like to believe, women aren't as into only sex, as men are... hence they value it or participate in it far less than men do (or would like to).

I. e., they are looking for relationships, not casual sex... Hence dating is not easier for women than it is for men...

[Asker]

Men will date a women for a steady supply of sex. That also shows men are far more sexually attracted to women than women are to men.

[coolbreeze]

Facts on any dating website women will get more emails and messages then men do.
Even on tinder women get more attention then men do.
Men are expected to put in more work and pursue women more. So it makes it easier for women to pick and choose.

[Turtleluv]

I think a lot men have more drive to get laid therefore it appears they are more attracted to women.

[Asker]

Why wouldn't the women have a similiar drive to get laid if they where as attracted to men as men are to women?

[Turtleluv]

There's a reason there's sayings like, "men think with their other head".

Women have sexual needs but it isn't a conquest like it is for men. We multitask and have more than 1 goal.

That's just my opinion I can't quite put into words.

[Asker]

Well then at least sexually men are far more attracted to women than women are to men. Sad really.

[Bandit74]

Yes, men chase, women choose.
If you were to take an equally attractive man and woman, the woman would have more options and be able to get a date with less effort and less money

[FatherJack]

In the initial stages , yes it is easier for women , also there are more males worldwide until the age of around 50 , as more boys are born than girls. Finding a good match is a challenge for all , regardless of gender and sexuality.

[hasrett]

Well, the onl reason dating might be easier for women is because you men are making it like that.

[Asker]

Of course, because men are far more attracted to women than women are to men. It's biological.

[hasrett]

Women are simply more attracted to characteristics that you may not possess.

[hasrett]

Also what do you mean by 'women have more options'?
There is roughly the same amount of men and women in this world.

[Asker]

Those characteristics are harder to posses than what women need to attract men, namely being half decent looking. Yes there are about the same amount of men as there are women, but not everyone is dating at the same time, women gravitate towards thr top males and wait their turn to get the alpha. Women who are single get offers but reject them, men who are single are getting rejected.

[hasrett]

Yeah, therefore my conclusion is that it's actually harder to date women because there are less men they can choose from.

[Asker]

So it's hard for women only because of their own unreasonably high standards and that they aren't as attracted to men as men are to women.

[hasrett]

Well women are born with certain wishes just like men are born with their horniness. What can you do.

[Sucram]

If you are starving you aren't picky. If you live in excess, you are. If women wouldn't have many offers they wouldn't be so picky. If men had dozens of offers they would be way more picky.
It's not about wishes and horniness, it's about offer and demand.

[hasrett]

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[hasrett]

Really you have to blame biology not women for not being as horny. We are what we are.

[Asker]

We should control our women like in muslim communities.

[hasrett]

Good luck with that. :P

[Asker]

You where born with a sexual advantage, men where born with other advantages, we relinquish our dominance in western society.

[Asker]

I could just go to the UAE, have a work visa.

[hasrett]

And still you can't get laid. What a shame.

[Asker]

It's far harder to get laid than it is for women... but it still happens.

[hasrett]

Why so bitter then?

[Asker]

... because it's far harder

[Asker]

Women are more aroused by lesbian porn than the male body... so we can't really use our body to get laid.

[hasrett]

*Dating* is much easier for women?

You have dating in your question, not getting laid.
It's true that it's harder for guys to get laid because many women don't want casual sex.
But getting laid and dating isn't really the same thing is it?

[hasrett]

It's not women's fault that you men are so horny all the time. Also it's not our job to relieve all of your horniness. If you need to get off, use your hands.

[hasrett]

If you actually do think that it is a woman's ob to do so, please let me know so that I can leave this conversation.

[Asker]

Men will date a women for sex on a regular basis, so you can land a relationship pretty easily. You didn't respond to my lesbian porn comment, probably because it's true of you.

[hasrett]

Yes, because relationship where he's with me only because of sex is really every woman's dream.

[hasrett]

You guys get really annoying when you start to take off your sexual frustrations here on GaG.

[Sucram]

There are tests that measure brain activity. Even many (not all) lesbians who claim not to be attracted to men at all reacted as strong or stronger to men than to women.

[Sucram]

Not just brain activity but sexual brain activity.

[hasrett]

@Sucram Okay. That's actually great for you guys.

[Asker]

From the tests I have seen, lesbians where only aroused by women and "straight" women where aroused by both men and women. Dr Reiger concluded "women are either lesbian or bisexual, but never straight".

[SirRexington]

That's actually not true and has been disproven by woman repeatedly.

[hasrett]

Maybe they were presented with not hot men. :P

[SirRexington]

Biologically both of us have desire to fuck the opposite sex. Girls love it just as much.

[hasrett]

@SirRexington Thank you.

[Asker]

Disproven? Both dr chivers and dr riegers research shows what I said is true (as did diamond and bailey's studies did before them). Not hot men? I don't know what the men looked like, but the fact that they where aroused by women too shows women aren't straight

[Sucram]

@SirRexington
Normally yes.
When the male fetus gets too much estrogen in the mothers womb or the female fetus gets too much testosterone, the brain gets wired wrong.

[hasrett]

You know what asker, just finally get over the fact that your not attractive enough that lots of women would want to fuck you.

[Asker]

Are you saying women aren't sexually aroused by the female body?

[hasrett]

I am pretty sure lesbians are.

[SirRexington]

Also what does supply and demand have anything to do with this? If I'm starving I still wouldn't eat certain things. Trust me I'm homeless, I know what it's like. But it's more difficult for a man to attract a woman than a woman to attract a man, that part is true. Not all the time, but mostly.

[Asker]

I am talking about all women being aroused by the female body.

[Asker]

You have internet but are homeless?

[hasrett]

I gave you the answer. You can interpretate it as you wish. I really don't feel like dealing with man with a brain of a 13 year old boy who's just angry because he can't get laid as often as he wants to.

[Asker]

Where did you give me an answer? Look in all tests women are aroused by the female body and lesbian porn is by far the most popular genre of porn to women according to pornhub statistics.

[SirRexington]

I have a phone, homeless people have phones man. Plus the public library.

[Asker]

You must be in a first world country then, can't you get wellfare or something.

[SirRexington]

I live in America? Where do you live? And no getting welfare isn't as easy as the media portrays it.

[Asker]

In Namibia. I dunno man my brother got it pretty easy in England when he was unemployed.

[Asker]

Seriously hasrett, when did you adress my women are sexually aroused by the female body comment?

[SirRexington]

That's England. Lol I'm in the US.

[Aguysopinion4799]

This is absolutely true and it makes life harder for guys to get girls.

[Astoriana]

Yeah, wading through an endless stream of dick pics that we didn’t want or ask for is *so* fun. 🙄

[Asker]

"O No so many men are attracted to me it gets annoying" all those dick pics are offers, men get very little offers. It's too easy for you, the only thing that makes it hard for you is your own unreasonably high standards.

[Astoriana]

An offer is supposed to be something that someone might want. Dick pics are not offers. It’s not even remotely enticing. Nothing makes me hit block so fast.

[WoopDoop]

In what world is sending dick-picks considered as "dating"?

[Asker]

They are offers, how are they not offers? Shows another point, men are far more attracted to women, you think men would complain about getting nudes from a girl? No as men are actually sexually attracted to the opposite genders body in and of itself.

[WoopDoop]

dating ≠ offering your penis

[Astoriana]

@WoopDoop because y’all don’t know how to be respectful, and that’s literally all we get on dating sites. Even the ones that are specifically for dating.

Asker, you’re too blinded by your hatred of women to be rational and to listen to what any woman here has to say. You are becoming tiresome.

[Astoriana]

@WoopDoop yeah, I would agree with you if that wasn’t how most men behaved.

[Asker]

So you think dating is easier for men when you get offered sex every day and those men would be willing to date you for sex anyway. Those men take the wrong approach but they are still immediatly attracted to you, are you attracted to them? No. Can you not see how much easier you have it when their desire annoys you, but they would love such a "problem".

[Astoriana]

Dating isn’t sex. The men who “offer” dicks don’t want to date. I do.

[WoopDoop]

@Astoriana Seems like you've lost the hope that there are good men out there. From what I've learned I can say: You won't find a long lasting relationship on one of those goddamn dating-apps. They are pure bullshit :) Go out into the real world, go dancing, visit events, get to have some real social interaction with other people. That's how it works.

[Asker]

Do you want to date those men who sent you dick pics? As in considering them before they sent the dick pic. I promise you will be attracted to a far smaller percentage of men, than the percentage of women the average man is attracted to.

[Astoriana]

@WoopDoop not using apps. All of my cousins met their husbands on dating sites. I know it can work, and I want more than a physical connection (which is all you can have by meeting someone in person). I don’t have time to waste by trying to find someone through sheer dumb luck, which is the other factor when meeting someone in person.

[Astoriana]

I don’t match with someone unless I’m attracted to them, Asker. Your blind hatred is deeply annoying. Come off Anonymous and quit being a coward.

[Asker]

I don't know which app you are talking about, tinder? So you where attracted to these guys and wanted to pursue a relationship with them, until they sent you a dick pic?

[Turtleluv]

@Astoriana I couldn't agree with you more about all of your posts to anonymous asker. He's clearly a sad, bored little boy that wants to fight. When someone can't figure out the difference between dating, sex and why dick pics are annoying the rest of us understand why they can't find a woman.

[Asker]

Look, 1% of men can knock up 100% of women, eggs are worth more than sperm so women are more desired than men.

[chloeec024]

When a guy sends a dick pic it make you feel like they aren't looking for a relationship just someone to fucked

[chloeec024]

Fuck*

[Sucram]

If she wrote in her profile that if she receives a d pick she'll send one back, is it fair game to send her one, or is it still unsolicited, if someone sends her one? xD
She provokes :P

[Asker]

Women aren't sexually attracted to the male body in and of itself. Women are more aroused by lesbian porn than the male body. Yet she still thinks they have it as hard in dating.

[Astoriana]

@Sucram I just send pictures of hotdog slicers.

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[Sucram]

When I read that I sent her a pick of a knife with the company name dick engraved in it. (Im not crazy and send something private and unwanted) But she never replied :(

[Sucram]

Something like this
www.dick-messer.de/.../...-Serie-1905-von-Dick.jpg

[Astoriana]

Oh, fuck, Asker, it’s you again. Gtfo with this ridiculous bullshit.

Just because you are ugly doesn’t mean that women aren’t attracted to men.

[Asker]

Never said that women aren't attracted to men, but women are more aroused by the female body than the male body, tests and porn viewing habits show this.

[Asker]

Are you saying women aren't sexually aroused by the female body?

[Astoriana]

Jesus fuck, you misread two small studies on female sexuality in college age women, and you think you know everything. You are the most tiresome person ever.

[Asker]

The raw data shows women are sexually aroused by the female body. And misread the studies? The head researcher of the second study (Dr Reiger) flat out says "women are either lesbian or bisexual but never straight". The head researcher of the first study (Dr chivers) says her study shows flexability in same sex attraction between women. Studies done by Dr Diamond and bailey where done before those that concluded the same.

[Astoriana]

We have been over this. They said nothing of the kind. They don’t even know if it will be applicable to the general population.

[Asker]

They did say that! look up what dr reiger said, look up the conclusion or final thoughts section in chivers study. And if you are saying that, you believe women who are sexually aroused by the female body and lesbian porn are straight, how so?

[Astoriana]

You are so boring, asker. How many thousands of times have you asked some variation of this question? If you’re still not doing any better with women despite doing everything in your power to take them down, maybe you should change your tactics. Clearly you are neither kind nor well versed in science; perhaps you would do better with women if you changed those two things.

[Asker]

Show me proof that those studies didn't conclude female sexual fluidity. And you believe that women who are sexually aroused by other women are straight? Explain why.

[Astoriana]

No point. You don’t believe me. You have no idea how science works. I would have to teach you three years of statistics and two years of experimental design. It’s not worth the effort, because you won’t be paying me for it. You can go on being ignorant and angry. I don’t particularly care.

[Asker]

So the head researcher says "women are either lesbian or bisexual but never straight"(Dr Rieger, takes 2 seconds to google it), his exact words, that's why it's in inverted commas, and I don't understand it? Are you saying he doesn't understand his own research? Are you saying the sample size was too small, the methadology was wrong? Explain!

[Astoriana]

I’m saying the study was too small and not diverse enough to be applicable to the general population. Which I have already told you, multiple times, but it goes in one eye and out the other. Due to your own hatred of women and sheer blinding ignorance.

[Asker]

So you agree that women who are aroused by the female body aren't straight?

[Astoriana]

Jesus fucking Christ. Do you even know how to read?

[Asker]

I don't see where you mentioned it, just answer it again if you did talk about it.

[Asker]

Are you talking about an old thread? I don't remember you.

[Astoriana]

I remember you from the 85,000 times you have asked some variation of this question and you have never failed to get the science wrong. What did you study? It certainly didn’t include a course on statistics or experimental design. Probably something like literature, where you can literally make up shit and have it count as true.

[Asker]

So ill ask it again since you have some aversion to answering it here, are women who are sexually aroused by the female body and lesbian porn straight? Just answer that.

[Astoriana]

Potentially. Female sexuality is complicated by the fact that the female body is so hypersexualized in media and popular culture.

Which I have told you multiple times, on your 85,000 variations of this exact question.

[Asker]

Well then I must have told you that is just affect to effect, the hypersexualization of the female body is just the reason why they are bisexual, they still are though. And even though you don't accept the studies, they showed that gay men weren't sexually aroused by the female body, suggesting it's female sexuality rather than conditioning. Bisexual either way though.

[Astoriana]

Nope. You have tunnel vision. It gives you comfort to think that women are just evil when they don’t want to have sex with you. You fail to realize that your own bitterness is what turns women away - not their supposed inherent bisexuality.

[Asker]

Why is being bisexual evil? And how are they straight if they are aroused by the female body? You mention sexualization in the media, so how is that a reason to say they aren't bisexual? If something makes you something, are you not that thing? This is just basic logic.

[Astoriana]

Maybe you’re too stupid to understand nuances. Actually, I think that’s been made abundantly clear.

But you hate women, largely because they want nothing to do with you. It isn’t because they’re not into men. It’s because you are a bitter excuse for a “man” who has nothing better to do beyond complaining that no one wants him.

[Asker]

Maybe you are to stupid to realize that classification of sexual orientation can't be nuanced, actually I think that's been made abundantly clear. Heterosexuality (and homozexuality) is by defintion black and white. You are saying I am right, you just don't know enough to realize it.

[Asker]

*too stupid

[Astoriana]

Sexuality is a spectrum. It’s all about nuance.

But you really take the cake. You think small studies, with a max total of MAYBE 200 test subjects is universally applicable? Really?

And we don’t even know the demo of those subjects. They could all be Queer Studies majors. Not a lot of Straights™ taking Queer Theory, vaquero.

[Asker]

But you said that women could be straight even though they are aroused by naked women and lesbian porn... which is what the studies used to define them as bisexual. So what is your real problem with the study? What's the point of saying the subjects might give biased results or the sample size is too small when you disagree with the methodology in the first place?
Anyway if it's a spectrum and not absolute to one side or the other, that would mean these people would have some degree of sexual attraction to their own sex right? That would mean by very definition they are bisexual right?

Even the kisney scale which attempts to explain sexual orientation as a spectrum acknowledges that if you aren't a 0 or 6 on the scale... you are bisexual.
Realize that you are saying that someone who possesses sexual attraction to their own gender can still be straight, realize how absurd you sound.

[Astoriana]

Sexuality is personally defined. If someone says they’re straight, then they’re straight.

But you, rude and lonely bugger that you are, would prefer to vilify women for not being attracted to you because you’re a bitter waste of resources and not a person, but can’t accept that and tout the smallest studies ever as the reason.

You are boring.

[Asker]

See you know I am right. You are something just because you say you are? Hahahahaha! Ok I love sex with guys and not with girls, vagina disgusts me. I am straight though because sexuality is personally defined hahaha. Stop being a pc idiot and accept what is correct.

[Astoriana]

It’s not though. Not in the scientific sense. Studies that are universally applicable need at least 10,000 participants. These ones have had what, 40?

[Asker]

You said sexaullity is a spectrum though and that women who are aroused by lesbian porn can be straight so... as I said, what's the point in saying you have a qualm with sample size?

[Astoriana]

Your flagrant disregard for the scientific method. You cannot claim something using evidence that doesn’t even begin to support that claim.

[Asker]

But now that isn't relevent to your argument since you revealed your stance of a sexual spectrum and fluid arousal patterns. You fall back on you own argument and pragmatically gainsay previous comments when you realize you are wrong.

[Astoriana]

It’s always relevant, arrogant and bitter little boy. You cannot claim that all women are bisexual without also claiming that all men are bisexual. That’s how the Kinsey scale actually works. But noooooooooooooooo, women are evil and don’t like men. 🙄

[Asker]

I will ask you the question again as you can't grasp what I am saying properly. Are women who are sexually aroused by lesbian porn straight?

[Astoriana]

Possibly. Given that straight porn is pretty violent towards women, some straight women may prefer lesbian porn. Also, I know plenty of lesbians who wants gay porn, so I don’t think that porn viewing habits are a good gauge of anything.

[Asker]

So a person who masturbates to child porn isn't a pedophile then? Please think logically and don't just say "that's illegal and disgusting".

[Astoriana]

Once again, you don’t understand nuance.

Which is unsurprising for someone so incredibly scientifically illiterate.

[Asker]

That's where I hoped you would take the argument to. So again... Classification of sexual orientation can't be nuanced. Heterosexuality (and homozexuality) is by defintion black and white. You are saying I am right, you just don't know enough to realize it.
Your talking about nuances is tying in with you saying it's a spectrum is it not? so again... If it's a spectrum and not absolute to one side or the other, that would mean these people would have some degree of sexual attraction to their own sex right? That would mean by very definition they are bisexual right?

Even the kisney scale which attempts to explain sexual orientation as a spectrum acknowledges that if you aren't a 0 or 6 on the scale... you are bisexual.
Realize that you are saying that someone who possesses sexual attraction to their own gender can still be straight, realize how absurd you sound. Just give up, I am technically correct... which is all that counts.

[Astoriana]

And so are you

[Asker]

And so are you?

[britpop]

It's no way easier it's a minefield guys just think it's easier for girls to get laid wiv no thought to life choices morals or emotions

[Anonymous]

Dating is easy for attractive people and hard for unattractive people

[Asker]

There are ugly sluts, there aren't ugly sluts.

[Asker]

*there aren't ugly studs

[soffffixaz]

no it's not, stop making excuses

[Hannajenky]

Men are just way too horny

[chrissurvivor]

Yes we're very horny, but is that the same as too horny

[FatherJack]

That's why a male sex drive killer needs to be developed , used to have high drive... thankfully faded greatly... it's the Male Curse !!

[chrissurvivor]

You disgust me! It allows us to learn balance, and self discaplin

[Asker]

Yeah men are far more sexually attracted to women than women are to men, that's one of the main reasons dating is far easier for women.

[Asker]

Yeah men are far more sexually attracted to women than women are to men, that's one of the main reasons dating is far easier for women. 2

[Hannajenky]

I think its is a tiny bit if men were a tiny bit more horny than women it would add up to a lot in the human race. A lot of women pretend they are not horny but it is only because they have so many men coming around. If men as a group stopped being dirtbags the women would be begging for sex lol

[chrissurvivor]

Women are airbags too, man kind is a cruel and autistic species

[chrissurvivor]

Correct cruel and sadistic species

[Cannuk22]

There is no such thing as “too” horny. Is there?

[gbmlevin]

This is true.

[gbmlevin]

They can claim sexual harassment anytime they want, and win 99% of the time. It has become a time that every man is afraid to approach any woman he wants anymore, because the of the implications, even if she wants it at the time. She might change her mind later and take you to court for rape. This behavior is starting to erode our culture.

[CT_CD]

Yes...