I strongly disagree.
By in large, women seek out men for financial resources, security, and stability, whereas men seek out women for sex and personal services. So, the relationship between men and woman is that of an employer and an employee, where men are the employers and women are the employee. Men are looking for the hot young prospect, among a constantly updated pool or skill and talent. Women are looking for the right combination of the highest bidder, most secure, and most stable job they can land.
The norm or status quo in this job market is that employers initiate the interview and hiring process. Unless an employer approaches an employee and expresses his interest in potentially hiring her, the woman will be unemployed. Because of the norm or status quo, women who initiate the hiring process feel desperate or negative about themselves, because it implicitly communicates to employers that no other man was interested in her. So, women are really stuck in the position of waiting for a man to initiate the hiring process.
This norm allows men to broaden their range of options and have enormous leverage and negotiating power over women in the dating market. This is compounded by the fact that scarcity works against women. The value of quality men will only appreciate with time, making their bargaining power greater. The value of quality women will only depreciate with time, making their bargaining power less.
Now, the game, as many people have already said, largely depends on what cards you are dealt. As a woman, if you aren't dealt any boobs, or butt, or hot body, or nice face cards, you're probably not going to get many high quality employers approaching you. Similarly, as a man, if you aren't dealt any rich family, smart, nice face, nice body, or wealth cards, you're probably not going to get many high quality employees to be interested in working for you.
I'm not done, it gets worse. A woman can only draw a limited number of cards to help her otherwise unfortunate situation: breast implants, and diet. That's really about it, because as soon as she starts drawing cards like: liposuction, botox, etc. she's just hurting her chances even more. A guy can draw way more cards to help his unfortunate situation: education, hard work, working out, diet, social intelligence, emotional intelligence, etc.
All I'm saying is, if dating were a casino game, it would be a game designed to take women's money, because the house odds are stacked in men's favor and against women.30 Reply
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I am not sure how girls have it harder, they have the power to choose who they want to sleep with, who they want to be in a relationship with, or even who to be friends with. And all they do is to look "good" I mean I am not really sure how is putting make up hard and eating properly hard as well...plus it is not like we guys are not supposed to look good neither anyways.
And those who complain about guys sleeping with them, or getting guys talking to them on the street or getting guys flirting with them are just full of sh*t...i am sure if you were a fat, ugly women they would wish otherwise...I mean it's like a rich guy complaining that he has so many cars.
I mean you guys think have it harder because you have guys offering to just have sex with you, ohhhh waaaaaa its like a rich guy complaining he has too much money. Just think about we getting friend zoned because "she doesn't like you that way", all that effort, time, headache and even money wasted on something that was going nowhere.
And honestly all they have to do is to tell a guy that they don't want sex...big deal, that was toooo hard...it only took 10 seconds.132 Reply
Generally, yes we do have it easier. I agree that a woman doesn't have to worry so much about her status and individual wealth, or whether or not she's funny and charming. She may not be the best looking or charismatic, but as long as she's not a bitch, she'll be able to land a guy with minimal effort, perhaps not the best-looking guy or the one with the most assets, but still.
However, I disagree when you say that we don't have to worry about rejection, or our jobs.
My future career is actually something I worry about every day, because in today's society, a woman cannot depend on a man for support her whole life. Things just aren't the way they used to be; American culture has changed.
And I'm one that believes that if you want something, sometimes you gotta put in some effort and go out there and get it. That includes guys. For a long time I was getting approached by guys I just wasn't attracted to. So I recently resolved to start doing the approaching, cause you never know who finds you attractive but actually thinks that you wouldn't be interested or thinks you're already taken.
So yes, I do worry about rejection.
"So why do women and girls always say I wish I were male?"
Well I say it because it seems less complicated. less involved. Get up in the morning, throw on some clothes, no makeup to do, no intensive hair styling. No stress over making sure your outfit looks good. Don't have periods, don't have childbirth, don't have to be pregnant for 9 mo, don't have to worry about staying home with the kids. Can move up in your career unhindered. No glass ceiling. Not to mention, stronger, taller.
But then being a girl is special too, because we hold the power really. Having a vagina...one of the most coveted things in the entire world, next to money.134 Reply- +1 y
I like the part where you just say "can move up in your career unhindered". Do you realize how much work it takes to have a great careeer and move up. It's not just "oh hey I feel like putting in 10 more minutes of effort at my job each day so that I can become a CEO next month". Everything else you say though I agree with.
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women make such a big deal out of periods and pregnancy
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and being socially-awkward-, socially-inept, quiet, shy, timid, passive, girls get a free pass for that, guys do not
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Women have it so much easier when it comes to dating agree or disagree?
I disagree as I doubt women have it so much easier than men in finding a partner they want who wants them back.
In my opinion having it easier when it comes to dating depends on physical attractiveness, wealth, and status not gender. I think gals have it so much easier when it comes to getting sex with random strangers without paying hence why many guys would agree gals have it easier as it seems sex with little effort/money is the dating goal of many guys.
So why do women and girls always say I wish I were male?
Likely the gals who say that do so because they think being male means being seen as part of the perceived superior gender, having more respect, being valued for more than youth/beauty, rarely being slut-shamed, and getting the benefits of certain double-standards.
""None of you ladies on here couldn't last a day as a guy. "
I highly doubt that most likely some gals would enjoy being a guy and essentially not being a target for sexual assault, sexual harassment, and street harassment as it seems guys generally go unnoticed in the sexual sense.848 Reply- +1 y
Nice post. but I want to tackle a few things:
-Slut-shaming (which in my experience, is mostly between women) is replaced with creep shaming. Now the stigma has legal implications, and now you're expected to make a move regardless of this.
-Perceived as part of a superior gender. By who? There seems to be this rumor that any man is incredibly powerful. As a result, even the least powerful of men are often looked at with distrust by default.
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@OpenClose
Always amusing to hear guys claim slut-shaming is mostly between gals when often times the first insult by guy to a gal is slut/whore/skank and many guys deem looking slutty a negative thing and being a slut a negative thing outside of him having sex with little effort.
I don't think a guy is expected to make a move regardless of "creep shaming" as I think a guy is only expected to make a move when he wants a gal and isn't taking action. - +1 y
Plenty perceive male as the superior as men built civilization and done and do more for civilization than women.
Being seen with distrust by default isn't limited to guys as gals are often seen by manipulative and decietful for having a vagina ala "don't trust something that bleeds for X days and doesn't die".
In the last one I stated nothing about being outright feared by default I stated ignored and it seems many guys say they often feel invisible not feared. - +1 y
The only ones competing are clearly the QA and seemingly you.
Telling you saw it as competing for me to say I doubt gals have it so much it as neither gender has it easier and explain why some gals may want to be male & could last a day as a male.
More telling how you seem to feel the need to create a stalemate rather than go 'okay that's why some gals may want to be guys & last a day as a guy what can be done about it ' then ironically say we need to work together rather than compete. LMFAO - +1 y
I agree that attractiveness plays a big factor...however the rest is bull. Men are no longer the superior gender, unless you are talking to developing countried, which I would agree. But here in North America? Child please...Women that are slut-shamed are women that looked for it, there are thousands of women that get laid every day and are not called sluts by any body...
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Also that rape argument is the dumbest argument and the least supporting argument I ever heard...When was the last time you heard a girl getting raped? Yup that's tight. Sexual harrassment is rare and even street harrassment and club harrassment it's only based on words any ways and I would vet most of the men that talk are not sleazy men or they don't make sleazy arguments. Plus how hard is it to tell a guy to get away or no thanks? It's not like he is going to rape you on plain daylight...
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I don't think it's bull that wealth and status plays a factor in dating being easier.
I said "perceived superior gender" and guys are often still perceived as the superior gender because they're stronger, more logical, built civilization, and contributed more to society than gals.
"Women that are slut-shamed are women that looked for it" is a classic she was asking for it stance that seems gals get more than guys.
There are likely thousands of gals that get laid daily and are called sluts. - +1 y
The rape argument is supporting as studies show outside of prison gals are far more likely to be raped than guys.
The last time I heard a gal getting raped was 4 hours ago. A gal getting raped isn't some rare freak occurrence for many.
Sexual harassment isn't rare and plenty of Hollaback sites prove that street harassment isn't only based on words.
It's not hard to tell a guy to 'get away'/'no thanks' it is hard to decipher if he'll respond with violence. Many rapes happen in plain daylight. - +1 y
Ironically you've supported my argument with your response that:
rape is seeminlgy uncommon
sexual harassment is rare
street/club harassment is only words
you'd bet most guys who harass or in your words 'talk' aren't sleazy
Many of gal's concerns are diminished, belitted, and degraded as you have done. So it's not the dumbest and least supporting argument that some gals may want to be guys as those belitted and degraded concerns are far less likely to happen to a guy. - +1 y
women don't have to have as much qualifications as men do in order to be dating/relationship material
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@IHateBeingaMan
I highly doubt that as it seems many of the same dating/relationship material criteria gals use are ones guys use.
Do you have have factual evidence of a large sample size showing that gals have more dating/relationship material criteria than guys to back your claim? - +1 y
I don't think women are seen as less than men anymore, I see at work all the time, as I have women bosses and men bosses and they are treated the same way, so I am not sure where you come with this argument. Yeah sure wome women get called sluts, but I am sure the radio of women being called sluts to the radio of women sleeping with others and getting called sluts is much smaller. I really wonder where you live, because here in Canada last time I heard somebody get raped was 4 years ago...
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Also even if you heard somebody get raped, how many women was it 1, 5, 10, 100? How many women are in this world? The percentage of women getting raped is very small actually...This is a actually bigotted argument, because you are implying that just because we are stronger than you it means that we are going to rape you when we have the chance.You are also implying that must men approach women in plain daylight, let me tell you that argument is actually wrong...
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at least in North America and Asia, because yes I would say that in Latino America, Africa and Europe is a different story. But even there and I am from a country in South America, where men are encouraged to approach women, I have rarely if ever heard of a women getting raped or somebody answering in a violent fashion on plain daylight...most bystanders in that case would react to the aggressor.
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And last but not least, I am not diminishing your argument because you are a woman, don't be sexist. I am deminishing your argument because I think is complete bull. Women in North America and even in Europe are spoiled brats. A lot of these arguments I would agree with if you were from Africa or Asia, these women DO HAVE PROBLEMS! Women from North America? Complain because they have to put make up on and shave their legs ppfffff please.
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@girlsareconfusing
Plenty still think that guys are better than gals and often times gals aren't treated the same as guys but less than.
Where I come from with this argument of gals often being seen less than guys is that sexism and discrimination against gals still exist no different than sexism and discrimination against guys exist. - +1 y
@girlsareconfusing
The worldwide percentage of gals who are raped isn't small and multiple statistics and studies disprove your claim that the percentage of gals who are raped is "very small".
It's not a bigotted argument to say that gals are often raped as you're projecting that it implies that because guys are stronger than gals it means they'll rape gals when they have the chance. - +1 y
@girlsareconfusing
I wasn't implying that most men approach gals in plain daylight.
My only mention of plain daylight was 'many rapes happen in plain daylight' in response to you saying 'it's not like he is going to rape you on plain daylight'.
I was responding to your implication that rapes don't occur in plain daylight not the amount of guys that approach gals in plain daylight. Quite unsure how you thought otherwise. - +1 y
@girlsareconfusing
It's a tossup as to whether bystanders would react to the aggressor as there are many rape cases of bystanders walking away, joining in, or watching. Gals being taught to cry 'fire' rather than 'rape' suggests many also doubted whether bystanders would react to the aggressor.
Doubting bystanders would help isn't unique to rape it's 'bystander effect' in situations. - +1 y
@girlsareconfusing
Don't be a liar as nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply you're diminishing my argument because I'm a gal. Amusing how you're the one being sexist and you tell me not to be sexist using the lie I said you're diminishing my argument because I'm a gal.
I said you're supporting my argument recall "Ironically you've supported my argument with your response".
I said you're diminishing, belitting, and degrading gals' concerns such as sexual assault and sexual harassment. - +1 y
@girlsareconfusing
The only argument that is complete bull is yours.
If rape and sexual harassment for gals is such a rare freak occurence as you make it out to be then why do statistics and studies say otherwise, why do so many gals who have a rape/harassment story, and why are gals taught how to prevent such rare events?
If street harassment is only words than why do many Hollaback sites show many cases of groping and sexual assault? - +1 y
@girlsareconfusing
Your arguments likely have to do with my sex as you think that North American gals don't have probems and their only complaints are makeup and shaving.
That is unless you can tell me how my argument is complete bull and anything like supporting Communism or Pro-Life:
- dating being much easier depends on physical attractiveness, wealth, and status not gender
- explainations of why some gals want to be guys
- doubting that no gal here could last a day as a guy - +1 y
why do you think we guys have it easier?
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@IHateBeingaMan
Nowhere did I state, suggest, or imply that guys have it easier.
Pretty sure that stating having it easier when it comes to dating depends on physical attractiveness, wealth, and status not gender would imply that I don't think either gender have it easier overall.
In my opinion guys and gals have it the same, easier, and harder in some areas.
The only ones thinking the opposite gender has it easier is you and girlsareconfusing. - +1 y
well girls don't have to initiate anything, so social-skills, conversation-skills, the right-attitude, is not as important to you girls as it is to us guys
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@IHateBeingaMan
Neither gender 'has; to initiate it's their choice whether they want to. In my opinion the person that initiates has it better off as all their options are wanted while the other person attempts to find a wanted option.
Many guys care about social skills, conversation skills, and having the right attitude. You and some guys not caring about social skills, conversation skills, and the right attitude doesn't mean most guys or guys in general don't. - +1 y
are you saying girls need social-skills, conversation-skills, the right attitude as well in order to attract a guy?
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@IHateBeingaMan
Most people can attract somebody without social/conversation skills or the right attitude however it likely won't be someone they're interested in or attracted to.
In my opinion most gals need social/conversation skills and the right attitude to attract a guy they want or consider quality. No different than most guys need social/conversation skills and the right attitude to attract a gal they want or consider quality. I say most because looks and wealth often negate. - +1 y
well it's more important for guys I feel since guys have to initiate the conversation, and when you said neither gender has to initiate, well I disagree since most girls are old-fashioned and feel it is the guys job to approach
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@IHateBeingaMan
It's a toss up if it's more important for guy.
Being the initiator doesn't means social/conversation skills is more important as the skills are needed on both parties to have an enjoyable conversation.
Gals feeling like it's the guys job to approach doesn't mean guys have to initiate it's their choice whether they do so or not.
I doubt most gals are old-fashioned it seems more like gals don't see the need to initiate or encounter that many guys they want to converse with. - +1 y
well girls expect the guy to start the conversation, all of the conversations and keep the conversations alive, prevent all of the awkward silences, pauses, etc. Well we guys can't wait for a girl to initiate or approach us, but a girl can wait for a guy to initiate and approach
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@IHateBeingaMan
Some gals expect that and some don't.
Likely conversations that are unwanted by the gal are the ones where the guy is doing all the conversing, keeping it aline, and prevent silences/pauses. He's doing all that because she doesn't want to talk to him.
Again in my opinion the person that approaches is it better off since likely all/most of their options are wanted while the person that's being approached attempts to find an option they want. - +1 y
yes the person who approaches is literally going after what they want but the person who approaches has to endure rejection, and it's easier for girls to break the ice to talk to a guy than it is for guys to break the ice to talk to a girl, girls can use just about any opening line, guys have to be careful
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@IHateBeingaMang
Most people have to endure rejection so what the person who approaches has to endure is nothing unique to approaching.
Gals who get approached often deal with sexual harassment and a guy reacting with physically when he's rejected and those are things unique to getting approached.
Whether it's easier for gals or guys to break the ice when talking is a toss up.
As you seem to thing gals have it easier you do have the option of rossdressing or undergoing a sex change operation. - +1 y
i've thought about sexchanges but people who did get a sex-chance do not literally completely become the oppossite sex they desired to be
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@IHateBeingaMan
Generally they look like a member of the sex they desire and generally those that look like gals get treated like gals. I thought that would accomplish the the point of getting treated like a gal since they have it easier.
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true but getting a sex-change is probably not worth it, it probably would have been better if I was born female
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are you also saying that it gets harder for women as they get older but easier for men as they get older?
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@IHateBeingaMan
Unsure how you got that when nowhere did I mention age for either gender.
So how did you get from me:
- advising a sex change as you feel being a gal is so easy
- stating my opinion is guys and gals have it the same, easier, and harder in some areas
- stating my opinion is having it easy depends on physical attractiveness, wealth, status, and personality - +1 y
just what is your opinion?
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@IHateBeingaMan
Amusing evasion on explaining how you got that I'm also saying that it gets harder for women as they get older but easier for men as they get older.
My opinion is that it gets harder for gals and gets easier for some guys. I say 'gals' as it seems aging devalues a gal and limits her options while saying 'some guys' as it seems things don't get easier for many men as they still lack physical attractiveness, wealth, status, and personality. - +1 y
guys have to have a passion in life, but girls don't have to
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@IHateBeingaMan
Guys don't have to have a passion in life they can choose to have a passion.
No one is forcing them to have a passion it's their choice.
More likely it's that guys are encouraged to have a passion while gals aren't because it seems most focus on gals is youth/beauty as gals aren't human beings but pretty things. - +1 y
being desperate hurts guys more than girls too also
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@IHateBeingaMan
I highly doubt that.
Desperate gals likely hurt gals more than desperate guys since gals are told that they have it easy thus if they fail they have little to soften the blow unlike guys who if they fail have 'it's hard' to soften the blow.
Desperate guys would likely hurt gals more than guys as it seems guys desperation often leads to violence against gals such as rape, sexual assault, physical assault, and murder ala George Sodini and such.
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I think women have it easier in the dating scene because guys have to approach and pay for the date, well gentlemen do anyway. And yea. But I guess if you are a really confident guy then its not hard for you to approach women and if you are like rich then paying for the date won't be all that hard either lol. But generally I think yes men have it harder.
I disagree when it comes to rejection,and their job. Women are also afraid of rejection. I am a little bit scared of rejection, just because a guys at first finds me attractive doesn't mean he will like my personality so I worry about that and my appearance not being good enough. And about the job, I care because I wanna be able to be independent, I don't wanna be called no golddigger or live off the back off others! Plus its nice to have money and take the guy out and pay, I think guys would appreciate that. Ur right women don't worry about penis size, but women are critical of weight and cup size. Plus the media is harsh on women's body too! So women are worrying about that.102 Reply








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My comment probably won't win best answer because it is disagreeing with yours, but I'll be honest. Women don't have it "much easier" than men. I don't think either gender has it easier or harder. Sure each gender has different difficulities and expectations set for them to meet, but in the end, it is how the individual person handles them.
A woman would probably have an easier time getting laid, because many guys are desperate, but as far as dating, not as much.
Women have to put on make-up, do their hair, do their nails, put on nice clothes and spend a lot of time to look presentable. Most men can just put on jeans, a t-shirt after a quick shower and be ready.
Women have to worry about rape, date rape and physical abuse. It happens to men too, but not nearly as much.
Women can have some insecurities with their bodies as well. And just like men, and probably to a greater extent, if you are overweight, you will have more difficulty dating. And it is harder for women to maintain their weight than men can, since men by nature have more muscle and less fat than women.
Yes, women have an easier time FINDING a date than men. But women have a harder time finding a GOOD date.87 Reply- +1 y
Like this because it's true. If I wanted someone for the night or for a single date, no problem, yes, girls have it easier there. But finding a good guy is hard.
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and men have an easier time finding a good date? I beg to differ
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"Ohh come on that rape argument is a loaded argument...when was the last time you heard a girl getting raped...yeah that is right."
Um what the F***?! THAT IS THE SINGLE MOST IGNORANT STATEMENT I HAVE EVER READ. From where do you hail, under a rock. When was the last time? One of my best friends got raped last mont? D - +1 y
Just butting in to "ditto" what sweet_18 said... I personally know several women who have been raped or were victims of attempted rape, myself included. That doesn't even count lesser degrees of sexual assault. People must not confide in you often, @girlsareconfusing >_>
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@tadpole25 : I agree with you, and I'd probably give you BA ^^
disagree, or I guess it depends on what you want. If you just want to get laid, I'm sure we have it easier but for actual relationships we have our problems too.
Of course we know what rejection feels like. A lot of us have asked someone out before and got rejected. And of course we get dumped too or a guy doesn't want to go on a second/third date with us.
I don't know if we have to worry about our job for dating, but we do. Of course we want a decent job, not only for dating, but in general. And ya we may not worry about penis size but we worry about everything else on our body. Our boobs, stomach, arms, tummy, bum, legs, feet, hands,private area... Worry about if you skin is completley hairless and smooth (you have no idea how much work that is).
There also is a huge double standart regarding women and having sex. Later on we have a much harder time balancing career and children. We have to spend a huge amount of time and enormous effort on losing that pregnancy weight.
And I don't really know why guys always complain about women wanting a variety of qualities from them. That's a huge advantage, because it means if you lack in one area you can make up for it with something else. From what I understand looks is the main factor after which men choose their partners, so we have to exceed in that area (a lot of it we have no influnece on) and chance to make up for it. That is way worse54 Reply- +1 y
A lot of what you say we men have to do it too: Getting rejected, we also have to worry about our job and yes men do care about the way they looks too, that is why we often go to the gym a lot as well. And come on getting their hair waxed or shaved, how long does that take? 30 min tops? pleaaaseee and you don't do it everyday either.. And that pregancy weight is gain because women become lazy (just as men too) so I am not sure where you are coming with that...
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I don't know why girls think it is so easy to improve or make up our personalities...last time I checked our personality comes from teaching and experiences over our LIFETIME! it isn't something that you change everyday, it takes a lot of practice and sometimes we can't even change it. And that looks argument is bull too, don't tell me you don't care about looks either because that is the biggest lie ever. We also have to look good too...i should know I am 5'6 and no girls look at me.
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30 min? no If you do it yourself and do entire legs and bikini area and you don't want to pay 150$ for it so you do it yourself you'll need about 2 hours, and sometimes need to do it again the day after
I know that men have many of those problems too, I responded to what was asked in the question saying we have those issues too,you saying that men have it too is very redundant
Pregnancy weight from being lazy? if you're so ignorant there is probably no point in telling you but - +1 y
you gain weight during pregnancy so the baby can grow healthy. Gaining 10 - 25 lbs of fat is considered healthy. And losing it afterward is also difficulty because your body doesn't want to lose it, so we can safley breastfeed.
In general it's much harder for women to lose weight, because our bodies are designed to store fat, men's bodies are designed to be lean
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I don't think women have it easier when you look at every aspect of dating. Of course they enjoy the fact that most of the time they will be approached and ultimately get to issue the rejection as opposed to receiving it, but when you look at other aspects of dating, you will find that in many cases they actually have it harder than men.
When a guy prepares for a date, he pretty much has to shower, groom and wear something presentable for the date. He has to try and maintain balance in the conversation, read queues and try to stay within certain boundaries not to stray past either side. He doesn't want to come off too strong and overbearing, but he doesn't want to get friend zoned either for being too passive.
Women on the other hand, have to wash and their grooming entails so much more, because they often feel they have to live up to certain expectations of what the public image for beauty is. They want to make sure they don't dress up or dress down for the type of function that the date will entail. They have to apply make-up, in the right balance. They have to work with their hair . They have to make sure that what they do achieves a balance of comfort and practicality.
While I think that dating isn't easy for either gender because of the generalized roles each has to play I do feel that once a guy has gotten past the first move situation, it's pretty much down hill from there.01 Reply- +1 y
Also, while a guys have to do things right, to trigger her interest and then her attraction, women have be good at reading a guy. So a guy that is bad at dating gets no girl, a woman that is bad at dating gets fooled by bad guys... And there is the saying " is better to be alone than in bad company" so I think women don't have it easy.
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No, we don't have it easier, well from my perspective. It is extremely hard for me when it comes to dating because I have my shy moments. Some guys may not like shy girls, they may not like the way I look or they may not like my body. I feel like I am at a disadvantage because some guys may not want me for the simple fact that I am a black female, look at the polls on here or the comments pertaining to black women and see some of the answers. Some will probably look at this and say I'm playing the "race card," but I see and hear negative stereotypes about black women all the time. I feel like some people judge us as a whole and think we are all the same without getting to me or any of us on a personal level. However, I have been approached by guys from different backgrounds, but I often wonder do they just think I am going to have sex with them, as if I'm a whore, that's not me and that will never be me. Another reason why I feel I am at a disadvantage is because of my body. Yes, I have big boobs, but my butt is not in proportion with my boobs.
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I cannot answer for women as a whole, I can only answer from MY perspective. And what I see and hear from men of my own race and from men of other races, they do not find black women that attractive, they do not want to be with us because "all" black females are ghetto, etc. Other women are put on a pedestal and we are the dirt basically, so how should I feel, and I'm the type of person that likes to stay optimistic and say not all guys believe that about us, but when you see and hear it almost
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everyday, it's very disheartening and it makes me think that I will be alone forever. Is it the same for black guys? Maybe for some, but where I live I see black guys with black, white, Hispanic, and Asian women. I don't use men for attention, so if a woman is just using you for attention then she is not right for you, just move on. Lastly, I'm sure men have their own insecurities but I still don't think we as women have it easier.
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And as for Taster, some men may not like shy girls because we can be seen as uniterested, closed off, and unapproachable, so it may be a turn off for men.
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You guys sound more like boys men. All you're doing is crying about how you think women have it easier; now I see why all if you are single.
And for the record, women cannot sleep around and not pay for it, what if the woman gets pregnant, did you ever think if that. If men sleep around and get a woman pregnant all they have to do is sign their rights away, and then they are it of their chills life for good. Looks like men seen to have it easier. - Opinion Owner+1 y
And until you have been sexually harassed or sexually assaulted by some guy who us seen as more powerful then you are, then keep your mouth shut.
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Amen ! Black women are stereotyped a lot on here. And the white men on here seem sexual when it comes to questions about black women. I see commenys like "oh I'm white and I had sex with a black girl. I too get approached by many races of men and my breasts are extra extra large. But I'm not fat. Just anatomically blessed
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Only if you're drop-dead gorgeous. That's the thing, really. Guys compare their experience as average guys to the experience of really hot girls because those girls are all they notice. The girls who fall short of 9 on an 10 point scale go unnoticed by guys, while most guys get noticed by girls.
Also, on what planet do women not have to face rejection? Women chase just as much as men do these days because most men are to chicken to approach a girl. We might not have to worry about penis size, but we have to worry about breast size and our overall body weight, two things which we can't hide until we get into the bedroom. And yeah, on some level we have to worry about material possessions. Maybe not cars but clothes and makeup are a big factor. What guy is going to want to go out with a girl who can only afford ill-fitting clothes from Walmart or can only by cheap makeup? Guys don't think about those things on the surface level but it sure as hell effects their subconscious.
Seriously, why do guys think women have it so freaking easy? That we just sit around looking gorgeous and guys just walk up and give us everything we want? Get a clue.68 Reply- +1 y
WOW if you believe all that crap you just said, I feel sorry for you. Its funny how you call guys chicken to approach girls, well sweet heart how would you fell if guy after guy kept rejection you? As for breast size what a load of crap. I've never meet or spoken to any guy who's dumped a girl because her breasts were to small or to big. Last time I checked you can't get a girl pregnant by f***ing her breasts. If the guy is 2 inches long it will be harder to get a girl pregnant.
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Guys don't dump a girl because of her breast size because they can see them before they date and can make that decision beforehand, stupid.
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There was no need for calling me stupid, secondly again no guy on earth will dump a girl based on her breast size, and third you really need to get your head out of your ass.
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A guy won't dump a girl because of her breast size because he wouldn't get with her in the first place. And you need to get your head out of your ass if you think that kind of thing doesn't matter to guys because it does a whole hell of a lot more to guys than it does to girls.
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Repeat after my name is Red Smartie I'm in denial. So what your saying is guys are not good enough to dump a girl based on breasts size?
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No, because (for the third time now) THEY WOULDN'T GET WITH HER IN THE FIRST PLACE!
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Dude is right, most men don't look at a girls chest. They look at the face first, then the lower body second, as a thicker lower body for a women means she is healthy and equipped to bare a child then one's with a slimmer lower body. It's the laws of attraction set very their so we can procreate.
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Bullsh*t.
Disagree. Actually, it depends on the hotness of the person. Dating is hard for ugly or socially awkward people. Well, I still think girls have it harder because they spend more time grooming themselves, like putting on makeup and doing their hair. Guys just shower and go. But girls have to blow dry, dye hair, straighten hair, make hairstyles, have lots of pretty clothes like dresses and skirts and shorty mc short shorts and high heels. Guys just wear jeans, T-shirt, sneakers, and go. Guys don't have to shave their legs or armpits or upper lip hairs. Guys don't have to sit down to pee or wipe their vaginas after peeing. Guys don't bleed waterfalls out of their penises 1/4 of their lives.
Guys worry about penis size. But girls worry too, about breast size, butt size, leg size, fatness, prettiness of hair, clothes, makeup. And also, the first thing a girl sees in a guy is not their penis. So they do not really care unless you are planning to have sex with the girl. Penises are not publicly visible, but breasts are. Why do so many girls get breast implants but guys don't get penis implants?13 Reply- +1 y
Because I've heard penis implants hurt lol.
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I like your aswer it makes me feel good as a man.
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Listen girl, we are talking about the ability to have a relationship any type of relationship. Woemn in general can just walk down the road and they'll find a guy hitting on them. Due to the fact that the guys do most of the approaching, even socially awkard women have a chance to get into some kind of relationship. Socially awkward dudes, well. . ., they just stand there all alone, never having a date. ALl this talk about woemn worrying about the size od this or the size of that does not negate the fact that 19 times out of 20 the women are the ones who get approached, so this gives them the option of CHOOSING whether to intereact with ethe man or not.
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It is harder for a man if he's shy.
It is harder for a woman if she's fat.
Both are extremely hard to deal with if you are the wrong gender.
For people who are neither particularly fat or shy it almost balances out.
Women go out of their way to maintain their appearance. Men go out of their way to make all the initial courtship moves, pay for the dates, and try to be successful in life to impress women. But neither is always true. Some women don't do anything for their appearance, and some men don't care being successful.
Neither has better odds when it comes to love. Both men and women lie to each other way too much, and waste each others' time, by giving false expectations.
Men have one additional weakness, which is that they crave sex. Women may like sex, but very few are as horny as men. They can get by with masturbation and some women don't even masturbate. Sex for men is like food for women.
Actually that last difference pretty much means women definitely have it better than men. But the difference in difficulties for average men and average women isn't nearly as big as it is for a shy man or a fat woman.00 Reply What...?
This is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read.
We don't have to worry about our jobs? Or cares? Are you kidding me?
Really we have it much harder than guys when it comes to relationships mainly because we have to sort out the guys who are just wanting to have sex with you and the ones who actually really do like you for you.
A girl coming up to a guy, unless he's drop dead hunk, isn't really only interested in sex, a few are like that maybe, but not a lot, and even if that was the case most of the time the guy isn't really going to be disappointed if she only wants sex.
This isn't the case with girls.1010 Reply- +1 y
You do you think your kidding?
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Sorry who do you think your kidding?
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but girls do not need confidence, they do not need to have comfortable and content with themselves, secure with themselves before landing a relationship, but guys do
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Honestly I would rather sort out who is trying to just have sex with me, than to trying to impress somebody else. As far as it goes choosing a guy, I can sit on my ass and just choose whoever is the best... than to been proactive and not making any misakes at all and looking manly, as women don't like men that are not manly and agressive. Also who cares if you got just sex? We men rarely get anything at all, not even a thank you or a smile.
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yes you don't have to be confident or secure, why were you so stupid to think you needed that?
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But still, you do have the certainty of being desired and of having dates, at least. You do have the power of choosing, among the at least dozens of guys who ask you out, whom do you want to keep dating because you find him the most interesting guy. Much more than what I, as an insecure, needy, cold and boring guy, could ever say about my chances with women.
Maybe the asker's choice of words was not the luckiest. Sure, finding a good partner is hard for everyone. Perhaps it is more precise to say that men have it way more difficult than women to even be liked to begin with.
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If a girl is average or above average looks, she has it much easier than your average guy in terms of looks/status/personality/confidence, etc. Women prefer above average in at least a couple of those categories. Men are much more likely to settle than women are without feeling unhappy. There's a reason why average guys get ignored on dating websites, don't get asked out in person, etc. Being average as a guy is NOT good enough, whereas for a girl, if she has an average looks and average personality, plus makes an effort to broadcast she's single and interested, she'll have a much easier time getting a boyfriend than "average man" will return.
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If we're calling dating, "the act of getting a date regardless of whether it turns into a serious relationship or not," sure, women as a whole have it easier, primarily if they're attractive.
But if we're talking about finding someone you're incredibly compatible with and having a healthy relationship with them, no one has it easy at all. If any person meets all of the materialistic "prerequisites" that they're paranoid about having in order to impress people they want to date, is that guaranteed to get them happiness at some point? I think you'd have to worry even MORE... Hot girls and rich guys are often both paranoid about being used.915 Reply- +1 y
girls don't need to be secure, they don't need to be comfortable and content with themselves, they don't need to have things going for them in their life in order to be girlfriend material
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If they aren't secure, confident, and content with themselves then it could screw up the relationship.
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no it only screws up the relationship is the guy is like that, not the girl, but if the girl does screw it up for being like that, it will only happen while the relationship already started, has been going on for a while, but for guys, it won't land them a first date or 2nd date
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I've heard you say this a billion times and you don't listen to any response. I've personally heard plenty of guys say they will not be in a relationship with an insecure girl because they know it's trouble.
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And also for the billionth time: why wouldn't you WANT to be confident with yourself regardless of whether it lands you a date or not? It's called self-improvement. I was miserable when I was insecure, so I changed.
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thats what pisses me off, why do guys have to do more self-improvement than girls do?
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...You're really missing the point. You don't OWE self-improvement to anyone, you do it for yourself. Why would it be a chore if it's something that makes you happy?
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thats what I hate, we guys have to do these things for ourselves which make us attractive to girls
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how did you change and become less insecure just curious? I can but only to a small degree it's always there though.
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lmao you're just saying the same thing over and over without reading what I'm saying. It's not to be more attractive to girls, it's to live a happier life regardless of whether you date or not.
@adamcdavis It honestly took yeeears of changing the way I think about myself, what's important in life, what influences to ignore (particularly the media), etc. Altering the thought process is key. But even then, it's completely normal to feel insecure every once in a while. - +1 y
well girls are attracted to guys who live a happy, fun, exciting life while being single, it's mandatory for guys to have that trait, but girls don't have to be comfortable and content with themselves or their lives in order to be dating/relationship material
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lolol why not? If someone is only happy when they're in a relationship, they're probably going to be too dependent. If guys don't think that's a bad trait for their girlfriend to have, then that's their problem...
Anyway, honestly, I have two girl friends who have pretty insecure boyfriends, so I don't get where your blanket statements come from. Get off the internet and meet more people, you'll find they're not all the same. - +1 y
well it's rare finding a girl who will accept an insecure guy
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sorry but the complaints you mention, while valid and true, sound like first world problems to us.
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In one sense, women definitely have it much easier. Unlike us, they have the certainty of being desired. Most might not be into casual sex, but they sure know they can get it whenever they want. Also, they can easily get a lot of dates. Unlike a lot of us. Whenever we like a women, we have to compete against hundreds of other guys for their attention. And not all, but quite a few of these guys (I'd say, dozens, or even hundreds) are remarkably more fun, more charismatic and more confident than us (in short more atractive), which means women will pay attention to those guys before us.
True enough, finding a good partner is hard for everyone. Yet, to me, this sounds like a first world problem, compared with the uncertainty of anyone liking me, or the certainty that I won't ever get a date to begin with.
But it is true, for the same reason, they are much less safe. In this sense, we have it way easier, as we are far less likely to be harrassed, stalked or even worse. And they are also flooded with spam.00 Reply - +1 y
Absolutely, positively agree. Women can sit back, do nothing, and have who knows how many guys flirting with them and chasing them without lifting a finger. And they whine about getting only players and jerks when they make no effort at all to pursue decent guys.
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Amen
Well I don't wish I was a guy but yes I have been rejected. Multiple times. You can believe me or not but its true and I'm sure I'm not the only woman who has been. I think it's true that women can get a hookup easier than a man but dating and serious relationships are a whole other beast. And why wouldn't a woman need to worry about her job? I'm pretty sure I have the same bills as everyone else and settling down with someone won't change that. Sorry if you're feeling bitter but hardly anyone has it easy-guy or girl.
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I mention job because there's a good chance the guy, will need to make more money. Lets be honest if you find a rich guy your set for life, but if your a guy and marry some rich women guess what you scam and a dead beat.
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IF a woman happens to get a guy with money yeah she probably will be taken care of, however typically both people need to work to afford the necessities(or at least that's the majority of couples I know). Planning on marrying a rich guy isn't really a stable or realistic plan and I doubt MOST women have that as thier end goal.
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the point is this: everyone finds difficult to find a steady relatioship, guys and girls, but girls have more opportunities in the first place. Women complain how do I KEEP a guy, men complain how do I find a girls at all. In average, it's way easier for girls. There are exceptions either side, but that's why they are called exceptions.
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You're acting like women just have to sit around and wait for a guy to whisk them away...it doesn't work like that. Women are constantly worried about whether they are pretty enough, smart enough, funny enough, ect. Plus, since when are men the only ones who have to approach? Us ladies approach guys to and both sides have to deal with rejection.
About the not worring about thier job thing, are you kidding? It's not like when I'm dating someone I expect them to buy me everything. I still have to have a job, pay my rent, pay my bills, buy things, ect.
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If its so ridiculous why did You answer it? Wrong women only go after the douche bag looking guys, Guys don't care how pretty she is or how smart she is, As long as he gets her # and in her pants. She can be dumber then a box of rocks but as long as she as T&A he could careless. As for rejection I believe for every one women that gets rejected by a guy 10 guys are getting recjected by a woman, And its more likely the guy needs to make more money.
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They don't have to worry about rejection - well unless the woman approaches not initially but she will definitely feel rejected if he breaks up with her
they don't have to worry about their job - this isn't the 50s. women have jobs. I don't think guys want to date a woman who has either no job or a really bad one unless she's really pretty and has an amazing personality. in the long run, wouldn't a man want a woman who can help pay for things and not just leave him with the job?
don't have to worry about penis size - yeah well they have to worry about the size of just about everything else now with society's crushing expectations
don't have to worry about the car they drive - do women actually date guys based on the car they drive what
Really, the only thing women have an advantage with is the initial approaching. And nowadays, that is changing. I know many girls who approach guys. Everyone has to worry about what they look like, how much money they have, and all the rest.17 Reply- +1 y
Women hardly ever get rejected, If a woman decided to quite her job tomorrow her BF/Husband couldn't call her out because if he did word would spread and every feminists would have him arrested for being controlling. And the only time I've seen women approach guys if when he looks like a douch bag.
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i actually know 7 girls off the top of my head who got rejected by decently nice guys so
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Sorry but imaginary friends don't count.
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wow, you are bitter. and the misogynist you said you were not.
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Can't take I see like I said imaginary friend don't count.
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Can't take a joke I see? Like I said imaginary friends don't count.
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i don't know if you're joking or not- this is the internet. I hope you're not
Of course they have it easier than men. I'm not saying that it is a walk in the park, but it truly does come down to they are mostly suppose to just "show up" for dates. As guys are spending time developing idea's, concerns, and planning the entire thing 95% of the time.
My experiences from the women I've dated, observed, and taken notice to. Have all shown signs of at least a 50% decrease in stress towards dating. The ones who stress tend to be ones who are insecure in who they are, and thus spend 5 hours trying to find an outfit that fits their body to which isn't currently ready for swimsuit season quite yet.20 Reply- +1 y
Guys are all going to say we do, and women will say the opposite. I think it's the same, frankly. Yes, each gender has its difficulties in the dating world, but I feel like there's still relatively the same amount on each side. But the genders will never understand this about each other because a girl can tell a guy about all the time and effort she puts into her side of the deal and he'll not find it impressive or as important or time consuming as his end. It's a bitter cycle because each side feels that they do more work. The work a man has to do to get a date is different than what a girl has to do, but a girl still has to do work too.
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like what do you mean, putting make up and getting their hair done? How is that hard at all? Plus guys have to look good anyways. A guy in sandals and a white t-shirt it's not very likely to get any numbers than a guy with dress shoes, a nice pair of jeans, nice hair and a nice shirt.
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This is what I mean. Men don't understand that looking good takes work on our part. I doubt men will ever understand the difficulty of finding a decent man. To see through all the BS that guys shoot out of their mouths is very taxing. There's really no point in discussing it because men will never understand what women go through and women will never understand what men go through. Much of it is the same, in fact. But it's no use explaining it to you because you're dead set in your thoughts.
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The day women finally can say "I ask a ton of guys out and they always say no" is when they can have it equally hard in the dating world as guys. And you know what? That'll be very unlikely to happen.
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I think it's easier because women aren't the ones who have to take any action really. All we have to do is look pretty, be ourselves, and put ourselves out there. Guys have to chase and try and do everything right to get a girl. And they have to make sure not to come on too strong or seem like a creep. I'm happy I'm a girl cause that doesn't sound fun.
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This I just talking about getting the initial date. I agree with the other people that the rest of the process is equally hard for men and women.
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Thumbs way up to ForeverYours, Thumbs way down for this Nicci chick.
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girls don't need confidence but guys do
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The effort it takes to get ready to go out does not nearly equal the effort guys put into asking a girl out and trying to impress her for the first few dates. A girl does have to put in effort, yes, I'm not saying we don't. But it is way damn easier, in this situation, to be the woman. Everyone knows it.. don't pull equal f***ing rights or whatever, you know it's not in this situation.
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@nicci: if women want equal rights, get the f*** out there asking guys out and doing a lot of the hard work :\
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There are some complexities to it.. and there's also staying shape, watching what you eat, taking care of your skin, shaving more than your legs, dressing nice, and all the business with your hair. We do put in effort..bu yes, not as much as men do.
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girls don't have to worry about how they talk when they are talking to a guy, interacting with one, don't have to worry about saying something boring, creepy, or lame
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Sure we do, if we like the guy we worry about everything just like the guy does. That's like saying any girl you talk to is instantly interesting. They aren't, girls mess up, too.
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the list of things that turn girls off is way longer than the list of things that turn guys off
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That may be true, but girls still need to put forth some effort.
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not as much as guys do
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That's what I've been saying...
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true, but the fact you don't have to put forth as much effort as we guys do is why you girls have it easier, girls do not need confidence or social-skills, they don't need to know how to talk to guys,they can talk however they want to and guys won't care
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I agree that it is easier, that's my whole f***ing point. But I disagree that girls don't need confidence or social skills. That is extremely ridiculous. A girl without confidence may attract men if she's pretty, but if she's all timid and won't talk or makes herself look like an idiot or something along those lines, I guarantee she's going to have a tougher time finding a guy than a girl with confidence.
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how do girls need social-skills?
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I just explained that. " A girl without confidence may attract men if she's pretty, but if she's all timid and won't talk or makes herself look like an idiot or something along those lines, I guarantee she's going to have a tougher time finding a guy than a girl with confidence."
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still, the odds are much more in a socially-awkward girls favor of landing a relationship than it is for a socially-awkward guy
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Yes. I know. Just remember girls have to try, too.
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i still don't logically see how girls need confidence or social-skills, since they don't have to approach
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Well, it makes it up for not having to go through period and experiencing pregnancy now. Plus also teaching your kids the proper morals and values to live in the society. Women deserve to have it much easier in the dating game than guys if you ask me. And they deserve to be more shallow and picky because a lot of the men just wanna hit it and quit it. Sure, women have it easier when it comes to dating but if you look at it overall when it comes to life, men just have it a little easier. Some might say women live longer so it's better but hey, I don't think remaining few years of your life living without your loved one sounds fun at a really old age. Quite lonely and depressing actually.
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I'd say ladies have it easier simply due to how males and females view dating and what they both expect, such as in general guys tend to look past minor things a lot of girls won't such as things like car,income,some minor body imperfection etc but its not exactly 'all' girls, I think girls have it easier because they usually have guys constantly orbiting them in their social sphere, guys tend to be more forward so girls can play them off till they get the one they deem right, they can do the whole chase me thing easier than guys can do it due to the more options for dating than guys. If you look at both sexes friend-zone group girls have a huge collection of loved up guys where as guys tend to have few loved up girls but that's due to guys seeing all friend-zoned girls as penis food and giving the girl some satisfaction as opposed to the friend-zoned guys, if that makes sense.
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It's even worse if you are a disabled man. Most women reject a guy because he can't drive a car no matter what the reason. I almost got a date with someone who was MBTA accessible, but she insisted I have a car and I told her I can't get a license and she dumped me. Well, like I say on Facebook, Karma's a bitch and she'll get hers. Shallow women end up with bruisers for boyfriends.
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Disagree to some extent. You are correct, if I want a date for one night, there's no issue, just have to find a guy desperate or drunk enough. But finding someone who isn't a player or a jerk is difficult.
As for worrying about a job, I do get to worry. There's many guys that don't understand what I do for a living and that makes dating very difficult. And then there's whole, you approach a guy, like him, he likes you and then you find out he just wants sex.70 Reply Also, while a guys have to do things right, to trigger her interest and then her attraction, women have be good at reading a guy. So a guy that is bad at dating gets no girl, a woman that is bad at dating gets fooled by bad guys... And there is the saying " is better to be alone than in bad company" so I think women don't have it easy.
And yes a woman could easily get sex, the problem is that sex is not to them as it is to us. They usually don't want to just hook up, they want a stable relationship.
And even when they want to have something casual they need a guy that knows what he is doing that also have a connection with her, even if just a tiny connection. They don't want to just have sex.00 Replyreally men my friend men have it easier. this is why cause think about who dose the approaching planning f***ing etc. as of this point men are incontrol of the date game cause no matter how hot she is and what you look like women are raised up to wait for a man to come along a change there boring life.its the ugly truth cause do women propose to men. and this is not hate against women I love women all kinds, but lets face..it takes a lot of heart to approach with the chances of being broken in half but sometimes there's a good outcome to you just gotta work at it.now there are some girls who figure this out like me and use it to there advantage its sad but its the only way you get things in this world is with a good plan and the right words:)
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let me explain why cause no matter what a girl dose or say a guys in control girls don't like it when there to much of this or to much of that they have principles which make them the weak link..men don't care for others and abuse any kind of situation which makes us that wild thing girls want. and of course girls have a choice but they over think everything which is how we rule
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specifically how does approaching, pursuing, initiating, give one power, when women have the final say? women just have to accept or decline
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and you are very right as well :) women sometimes have the final say but not all the time think of the ones in abusive relationships that want to go but the guy has hooks in them but I am always welcome to feedback :) thank and the funny thing is now I am in a relationship a good one finally and its alright not to much or to little like you say XD
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I agree it is much easier for us. I also do some of the approaching and I have not been turned down yet, but I know I don't need to. I do it because I know guys are often afraid of being rejected so just because he hasn't approached me doesn't not mean he is not interested and I like being assertive. It feels good and like I have some control of the situation.
90 Reply Anyone who disagrees is being delusional
There are definitely differences in terms of looks etc.
But the average girl compared to the average guy, yes has a much easier time dating140 Reply- +1 y
I beg to differ. Many girls gets rejected worse then men. Some go and have sex with a guy they think liked then WHAM they don't talk to them anymore. If a girl doesn't dress a certain way, act a certain way, or look a certain way guys won't even give her a second glance. Girls are more insecure about their bodies then men. Many women are always being looked down at jobs. We have a lot more problems then you think. Finding a date has to do with yourself and not the person you're trying to get with.
It all has to do with how you carry yourself. Yeah, sure, money and nice things may attract the hotties you may want to get with, but a girl who really knows who you are will like you for you and not what you got.21 Reply- +1 y
This ^ deserves a prize for the dumbest answer I've ever heard. Many girls gets rejected worse then men. Are you F'N serious? With this statement or anything you just said? OK so what your saying is even if I dress and smell like a bum, I'm still gonna attract women? LMFAO you know that ain't true. And FYI I've seen some ugly women with BF's.
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no, we really don't. consider all the social stigma attached to us dating, add in the bullsh*t we have to put up with from men/ boys (yes I know guys have the same issues when it comes to women), then there is the maneuvering of the "sex games" . Frankly I am skeptical of the whole dating game - Too much drama, games, emotional backlash and unnecessary expectations that are very often broken.
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I think that both genders are equal. Its seems to be harder to find that potential mate who would make a good husband or wife. Some of might had our heart broken too many times or had a traumatic experience where they we raped or molested some point of their lives
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I think this is a case of the "grass is greener."
I think men and women may wrongfully perceive one gender has having an advantage over the other in the game of love. But in reality, we all struggle with issues that aren't always unique to our sex.
Everyone deals with rejection and the uncertainty of wooing those we find attractive. Don't kid yourself.10 Reply - +1 y
I'm not complaining I think I have it it easier.
Compared to all of the guys I think women mostly have it easier, but the thing is they stress out way too much. So It almost evens out cept not really.
Women can choose who to give there stupid p**** too... That's all there is to it.00 Reply - Anonymous(36-45)+1 y
yes, I'm tired of people using the argument "if a girl has a boyfriend, wouldn't it mean that guy has a girlfriend?" YES DUH! THAT IS TRUE!, but the guy had to do all or most of the work in order to get the girl, meanwhile the girl just had to welcome or deny advances, she didn't need social-skills or confidence.
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I guess I have a different perspective then you do, but still better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at alleven if the relationship was bad or negative at least the person experience to help prepare and train them to not make the same mistake again for future relationships in dating
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Try falling for someone when he only wants your body. Maybe its easier to get a date for girls if she is pretty but love is hard to find for everyone.
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Happens to me all the time.
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Its not any different from a man. I was pointing out that girls also go through feeling used by someone they really care about. Its really hard to find someone who would love you for who are. It doesn't matter if it is a male or female. It just seems like girls have it easier because they get approcated by guys for dates but that doesn't mean they won't get thrown out later
single guys looking to get laid have a worse chance of getting what they want a girl in the same situation... girls trying to maintain relationships, have it worse then guys trying to do the same thing ...
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Neither party has it easier. It's just that at times the grass looks greener on the other side
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No I do not agree...they merely have a different POV...do you worry about being raped or murdered?
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do I get into a fight every two minutes? No. Do you get raped every two minutes? I bet there are way more chances a man getting in a fight during a night out than a woman being raped during her night out. Rape usually occurs with people the woman knows already. The average woman as less problem than the average guy when dating. Am I saying she won't get heartbroken etc? No. But the average guy won't even get a chance to be heart broken because he won't get in a relationship in the first place...
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@OpenClose
yeah but we are murdered and such by other guys mostly, not by women.
However, women are harrassed, stalked, or worse yet by us guys, especially guys who are somehow interested in them. - +1 y
@carlo dude: you are greatly diminishing how horrible an experience is rape. rape is several, several times worse than getting in a fight for a woman. I think rape is way worse even than murder, and only comparable to kidnap or systemic torture. (well, rape is a kind of torture)
And, quite frankly, I find it pretty disgusting to discuss rape statistics as if they were just numbers. In my opinion, a single rape is tragedy enough.
Sorry, I'm also an unatractive mysoginistic loser but this is too much even for me.
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When young yes, when older, no.
This link really spells it out backed by data:
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i read it, a lot of it was implying that older women don't necessarily have it harder than older men do
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Then you can't read. Older men have twice the interest that older women do.
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Well it's sad that people don't believe this. It just means there are a bunch of men who, when they hit thirty, will be duped into marrying the first thirty year old woman that shows interest, even if there are far better options out there.
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Nah. The guys I know at 30 are well aware of what they have.
Me? Married at 23.
In a way it is easier for beautiful women to piggyback off of a successful man's back and have an easy life then vice verse but men are still stronger, more direct when it comes to thinking, more boisterous, stubborn in good ways (also in bad ways), dominating, leading, adventurous. Now most women don't like to admit that guys have it harder in life but when on average men die younger than women it's hard to argue.
00 Reply434 opinions shared on Dating topic. women do have it easier...they can get sex whenever they want..men not so much
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In reality, neither side has it easier. Rejection really isn't any fun for either side unless you're just toying around with someone's feelings just for 'kicks' like some people, male and female like to do. Nobody ever said it was going to be easy.
30 Reply - Anonymous(36-45)+1 y
Below average looking/social skilled guys look at above average looking/socially skilled chicks and think "women have it easier." Guess what ... you won't find hot guys complaining about their prospects, either.
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Why would the hot guy be complaining? What's he gonna complain about?
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That's my point, dude. It always looks easy when you look at hot/charming people...
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And my point was your point made no sense.
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The guys on GAG crying that "Girls have it sooooooo easy" are only looking at the hot girls, when, in fact, if they were hot guys ... they would have it easy too.
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i'd say good-looking women have it easier than good-looking men do since the good-looking man still needs to have confidence, social-skills, conversation-skills, the right attitude, mindset, has to be comfortable and content with himself, has to life or have a happy life without a girlfriend, being single
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Do you know any good looking men? They are doing fine, unless they have mega damage from the past (which also beats the hell outta good looking women).
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yes because they have confidence, are comfortable and content with themselves
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my sister broke up with a guy and then like a week later she found another guy, like wtf.
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Anyone want to disagree with thatguyguyguy?
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Not to mention girls can be chubby and any race and still get dates. Then girl wonder why guys are a**holes because everything is against us!
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The tables turn dramatically when men hit their late 20s, and women hit their early 30s.
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u sure about that?
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Yep. Men have more resources at that age, women start to age. Men have their pick of the litter, women are in for a bumpy ride.
Unless, of course, men are ignorant to this fact. - +1 y
how is it the accurate truth?
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Only one way to find out.
But a word of warning, if you are determined to be miserable and fail with women, it is very, very easy to do. - +1 y
and it's very very hard for women to be unsuccessful with men
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Not sure why this raked in downvotes when its very, very true.
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how can I find out if it gets harder for women as they age?
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well, it does makes sense. due to work and such, women have a smaller social circle then so they are not pursued by the dozens of charming confident guys who pursued them before (against whom the likes of me don't stand a chance), also quite a lot of these guys at that age are in serious relationships.
which means they must either lower their standards significatively and date guys who in their 20's they would at best have felt pity for, or prefer to be single.
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Most girls will say no as the poll indicated but I vote guys because we have to do the approaching but its about even because the girl has to send signals that she is interested too on top of looking good.
20 Reply I would agree with you when it comes to the first date or two..but after that then no...just no...(:(:(:
10 Reply- Anonymous(36-45)+1 y
yes, because they don't need to love themselves first before someone else can, it's okay for them to get validation from guys but not vice-versa
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in a home, I know I am right
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Every time a girl goes on a date, a guy is also on a date. Every time a girl has sex (hetero) there's a guy who's having sex too. So how could it be any harder for girls as a group OR for guys as a group?
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i'm sick and tired of that stupid argument "I mean honestly, if a Girl has a boyfriend, doesn't THAT then imply that a guy had a girlfriend?", BECAUSE THE GUY HAD TO DO ALL OF THE WORK IN ORDER TO GET IT STARTED!
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I can see why you'd be sick of that arguement--it pretty much kills the notion that girls somehow have sex easier than guys do. Seeing as how they have EXACTLY the same amount of hetero sex. . .
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well guys have to initiate everything, do the chore, work of making it happen, the girl decides whether sex is gonna happen or not since she just has to welcome the advances or deny them
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girls don't need social-skills
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Actually, most do. You're just focusing on HOT girls. You can't do that as a fair comparison. The average girl gets a MUCH better caliber of guy if she has social skills.
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true but an average girl without social-skills, she can at least a get a guy period, as in a guy she is physically attracted to, he may not be her type attitude/personality-wise, character, status-wise, and since guys have to start all of the conversations and keep them alive, prevent any pauses, awkward silences, etc. that goes to show you that social-skills are far more important to men than to women
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Sure. But looks are far more import for a woman to be successful than for a guy. And at least you can develop a personality. There's only so much a girl can do to be hotter. Many will never get there.
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you really think they are more important for women?
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Yes. Absolutely. This very question basically assumes that. If the guy's being honest he isn't really asking if "women" have it easier than men when it comes to dating. He's asking if "women I'd like to date (because they are attractive)" have it easier than men when it comes to dating. Because honestly, no one cares what unattractive women think or do. That's also why there's a perception that there are more guys than girls. Because we don't even SEE the ugly ones.
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yup, they don't have to have confidence but we do
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I hate that excuse I can have all the confidence in the world. but still get turned down all because I'm not good looking or rich or muscular enough.
Agreed. Not to say they have it easy, but they definitely have it easier than guys.
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yeah they do and they get their dates paid for and if he doesn't pay he is cheap apparantly lol
70 Reply Of course women have it easy in dating. All they gotta do is sit around & look pretty.
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This is so useless and ridiculous. 6 girls and 49 guys voted YES and 31 girls and 7 guys voted NO. What does that tell us? Absolutely nothing.
My personal opinion is definitely NO though.10 Reply Okay, so I've personally seen this question on this site like five times.
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you disagree?
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So why do you keep on answering them then? If you hate these question so much don't answer.
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women do not need social-skills or conversation-skills, THEY DON'T NEED CONFIDENCE!
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So your telling me what to and not to ask lmfao.
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And I'm telling you my opinion what you shouldn't answer.
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Don't like what I said then don't answer dipsh*t.
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women can be bratty, boring, have no life, and still attract men
Yes; I feel bad for boys sometimes
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finally a girl agrees
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as a girl I would agree
100 Reply Of course not.
No gender haves it "easier"70 Reply- +1 y
Disagree all we tend to find is players well at least I do
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Regardless of who you end up with, it was still easier to find a date initially if you're a girl.
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^ That's your problem not mines.
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That's kinda rude maybe you suck at attracting women due to your sh*tty additude ya think
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you girls don't need social-skills or conversation-skills
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Is all your going for is the buff hot guy that's popular?
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U men get nothing ha ha that's a joke you men get more then us girls
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Please explain what I said was rude? I'm not the one who's telling these ''So called Players'' to approach you. Also I'm not the one putting a gun to your head telling you, you need to talk to them.
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Telling them to approach me Hahahahahahahahahahahaha that's funny why woul I tell them to approach me and everything you are saying is rude passing judgement on girls thinking we have it so easy in life my his maybe if you where nicer to people maybe you would get a date but since you have the mantality of a child maybe you should grow outta your pampers first and then learn how to talk to women with respect then maybe just Maybe you would be able to get a date or whatever your looking 4
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You don't even know me, so you're ranting makes no sense. FYI I'm actually really shy around people especially women. Its not my fault I was born male and its also not my fault you dress like a cheap $2.00 dollar slut. And lastly who are you too talk all you have to do is say next to someone you don't like and move on. Like some here said girls don't need confidence as much as guys do.
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girls don't need social skills or conversation skills since they don't have to do the approaching
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WTF. of course not.
well at least for ugly girls. they still have to work for it like men, sadly20 Reply - Show More (11)
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