Are men who have their house wives clean all their messes considered lazy?

[blackxbarbiex01]

[hellionthesagereborn]

Are housewives who have their husbands spend fifty hours a week working who then use that money to pay for the housewives house, food, clothing, jewelry, luxury goods and then on weekends they do the yard work considered lazy? I mean why is it that when some one expects something of a woman its him being lazy but when women expect the world and a half from the guy no one bats an eye? Seems rather absurd. She is a housewife, that means that his job is to provide and protect which he does full time, and her job is to maintain the home which takes a couple of hours at BEST (seriously laundry machines, vacuums, dishwashers etc. all take minutes to do what would normally take hours.). So no, only sexist women who cannot empathize with men and put themselves in men's shoes think that those men are lazy, reasonable people realize that he is contributing as much (and technically according to one study slightly more) then she is.

[jgokgotit]

It depends. If she cooked dinner and they eat together when he gets home from a hard day of work and he has her clean the dishes, then that is ok because anything to do with meal time is part of her responsibilities. However, if he grabs a beer, drops the bottle and breaks it, then he is lazy if he does not clean it up. There is a bit of a fine line there, but generally whoever goes to work more should clean less. She should not clean a mess she had no part of.

[freshavocado]

It really depends, if he is out of the house often, then I wouldn’t consider it lazy. But if he has time to get his ass up and clean the mess he made but doesn’t, well that’s lazy.
If your the only one in the relationship doing all the cleaning and cooking, I would get my ass up and leave. I understand if someone is a primary cooker/ cleaner, but you need to help each other out instead of one doing all the effort.

[nathanp97]

So a stay at home wife should help the guy at his job? You're basically saying the man needs to help the woman do her job, but not the other way around. If the guy works full time and the women stays at home she should be doing around 90% of the day to day house work

[Goodwifie]

I would not be a very happy wife if I'd spent the most part of my day cleaning and looking after the kids only to have my husband come home and make a mess.
I am his wife not his servant.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Oh, so what is he then? I mean he works all day and provides for you so why is it that you get to treat him like a pay check? It goes both ways.

[Goodwifie]

@hellionthesagereborn well that's a massive assumption, no it's the simple things like wiping the mirror clean if he gets toothpaste on it or if he misses the toilet clean it up. We were in the position of me being the only one in a stable job he took care of the house, kids and meals. Just because he wasn't working it didn't mean that he had to clean up after me and vice versa.
It's called having respect.

[Jonny_]

I like the guys assumption that having kids isn't work and that women don't have jobs themselves. While relationships go both ways, it's a partnership... it isn't an entitlement. I do this, therefore this should be done... that simply isn't the way of it.

[AmandaYVR]

Yep. Joint sharing of responsibilities, inside and outside the home - fine. "Cleaning up all their messes" - sounds like a lazy and spoiled child.

[hellionthesagereborn]

How is him working and then giving everything he has to his family him being lazy but her refusing to give anything in return her not being lazy? Its really frustrating that men have to make so many sacrifices for women yet women refuse to even acknowledge them and then turn around and demand more. Men work more then women do, why do we not call women lazy and spoiled children? Seems hypocritical.

[AmandaYVR]

@hellionthesagereborn
You presuppose a lot of things. The asker did not write ANY details on this. The entire questions is only "Are men who have their house wives clean all their messes considered lazy?"
Who says the man is giving everything he has?
Who says the woman is refusing to give anything in return?
Who says the man isn't being acknowledged?
Who says the woman is demanding more?
Men work outside the home at only slightly higher rates than men now. Actually most women work, and regardless of whether there are children present or not, when you add all housework, picking up groceries, etc., women work MORE hours per week. This is well-documented.

[AmandaYVR]

What I said was in response to a person (and don't forget, she is a child/teenager, not somebody's wife who is complaining about her husband) describing a scenario where a man does not clean up after himself at home, in ANY way. Examples? Maybe he changes his clothes and just drops his dirty laundry wherever it lands on the floor. He makes himself a snack just for him, and leaves the leftover food, plates, utensils, etc. out on the table, with a pile of crumbs. He doesn't change the now-finished toilet paper roll so that the next person is left without. This kind of shit. Every adult (and many children, depending on age) should take personal responsibility and at least somewhat clean up after themselves. This has little, or nothing to do with who does the lion's share of the household stuff (cooking meals, cleaning, bill paying, maintenance, etc.) and who goes to work. Odds are, they probably both do, but even if she stays at home f/t, why should she clean after him like he's a child? I don't know why you have a problem with this or what I said. You are very biased. You always claim everything you sy is verifiable fact but it's just not true. You have your opinions and a slant at which you look at things. Just like many/most people do. I am not against men, I am for equality, I am for kindness, I am for sharing the burdens of life. You never concede on these gender issues, always taking the stance that men are the harder done-by.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Its not an assumption, a housewife by definition has no job so if she is not cooking and cleaning then she is quite literally contributing nothing. Meanwhile the husband does work (because women will not marry a man who doesn't lets be honest here (they rarely marry a man who makes less then them) so we know he is employed and we know she is not by definition. We also know that he is paying for everything because she by definition is not.

As for men giving all he has, that's the norm, 80% of domestic spending in the US is done by women, they only account for about 35% of domestic earnings. Who's money would they then be spending? They are definitely spending theirs and men are definitely not spending theirs so that leaves only women spending their money and the mans money as well (again, this shows just how little credit we give men for everything they do and how we give to much credit to women (not saying women shouldn't get credit for what they do but currently its at the expense of men (like how motherhood is the hardest job in the world. Really? So fathers don't do anything? They don't routinely go to jobs they hate to put food on the table even working two jobs to do so then come home and spend time with their kids while exhausted? That doesn't count? Just mothers get credit? This is the world we live in).

If a woman who is not working is not cleaning the house cooking etc. then she isn't giving anything (unless she is an heiress and its her money paying for everything in which case sure, you have an argument but that is not a probable scenario).

[hellionthesagereborn]

As for being acknowledged, of course men are not. You just stated he sounds lazy and spoiled despite the fact that by definition the woman was not working and he was and the idea that he would then expect her to clean the house at the least is him being some kind of lazy asshole is not giving him credit. We also hear all the time about the whole "motherhood is the hardest job" while fathers are completely ignored, ignore that he is paying for everything (again, statistical data shows this to be the case) yet no one wants to acknowledge that aspect of things, the fact that statistics show that men work as much as women and technically slightly more yet all we hear about is how hard women have it because they work harder then those lazy men. This is non stop in society and this question pretty much shows it as well, so yes we do not acknowledge contributions from men at all and even when we point that out its dismissed outright.

So yeah, its really annoying to hear about a claim being made that a man who works and provides for his family is some how lazy and that his housewife who by definition doesn't work (again literal definition of a housewife (otherwise she would just be a wife)) is some how not obligated to clean up the home. Its incredibly unfair and insulting and its the most normal and common mentality our society and women have. To say that I find it degrading and sexist is an understatement.

[Apple1996]

Not if she's a housewife, that's her job to clean up after everyone

[MzAsh]

If he’s not cleaning after his own mess then yeah.

[Wolkmi]

An the housewife is not lazy for not having a job?

[MzAsh]

She could be. I don’t know what all she’s doing with her day. But everyone should clean their own filth.

[Wolkmi]

A house partner "job" is take care of the house and relative, It is enough that she is being maintained. Of course, if you spill something or make it dirty it costs nothing to clean it yourself or if you can help a little.

[peacchyy]

I mean, not really. If they work long hours, and have a stressful job, then no. They're providing for their family, and if I was a house wife, I'd want my husband to have a clean house, haha.
But that doesn't mean he should just be a slob, and make messes just because he doesn't want to pick up after himself.

[brigfrey25]

👌👌👌

[notatrap]

You win.

[normalice]

There is always going to be a tradeoff. And if one person feels like they aren't getting as much as they give, they should leave immediately. Don't ask for more, because if they don't want to give of their own volition then they just aren't compatible with your needs.

[blutwolfe]

no, I'm literally paying all the bills, etc. I'm working 40+ hours a week, she doesn't work at all, if anything she could come off as a leech. I'm sure she could spend an hour a day cleaning if we were in that scenario. Kinda hate traditional roles though, really only makes sense if you have children.

[Passinggas]

I don’t mess in my girlfriend s domain because she won’t let me. However, when the toilet backs up and I have to dig up the entire septic system with the backhoe to fix it, I do make a mess outside. But, I have to clean that up. She doesn’t mind cleaning the toilet by the way as long as it flushes correctly. She will hand it to me if leave an excessive messy toilet though. Lazy? Yeah, if they are inconsiderate pigs.

[AynonOMouse]

No. The housewife is the lazy one. She only does about 7 hours of work per week with no kids, or 12 hours per week if they do have kids. That would still be way less than the guy working full time to support them.

Anyone that thinks a housewife is hard work is a complete LIAR. It is very easy, even with kids and is a lot less work that working full time.

[Antelope]

Wait so we're pre-supposing a house wife, meaning her "career" is to stay at home all day. Let's examine the definition.

"1. a married woman whose main occupation is caring for her family, managing household affairs, and doing housework."

Um, yes. I don't ever plan on marrying a woman whose aspiration is to stay at home, but if I did then I expect her to do her job.

[Antelope]

If you can't tell I don't respect "house wife" as a job

[serious]

No, it is not that they are lazy. May their work life is such that they maybe working for almost 18 hours a day and so it would be unfair to expect them to come home and then help in the household work also.

[SimpleRhubarb]

If he’s home and not doing anything, then yes. Certain things like laundry, maybe not, but if you spill something, wipe it up. If you use a dish, at least put it in the sink. There’s no need to make her job harder.

[Reaperbot666]

typically try to minimize my mess making. or clean as I go at least. so there is less to worry about later.

but I am single so wouldn't really know much about have a house spouse to clean for/with me.

[SoWhAt249]

I mean house wife is a job of sorts. A house wife doesn't work so she can take care of her family and home better. So if partner 1 works, and the other one works but at home I would not say partner 1 is lazy.

[notatrap]

No? Why would he have to work, clean, and kiss her feet too?
Seriously depends on the relationship.
Could EASILY turn the tables and say any woman who can't clean or cook for her man is even lazier.

[notatrap]

If one enjoys it, do one.
If one enjoys cooking, one does that instead. Or take turns / make a schedule.
Not brain surgery.

[Zorrak]

My brother works about 14-16h a day so it makes sense why his wife cleans plus she doesn't work so its really fair all around. She tries to be of some use but a guy should be able to clean up to some degree like the dishes or make his bed

[slatyb]

There's a division of labor and there's being an inconsiderate slob. My wife isn't working and most of the domestic chores. But I pick up after myself, help out when I'm not working, and take care of mechanical problems. We're happy with that.

[maddog998]

I'm a house wife and my boyfriend helps me clean the house no matter how long his day is.

[The_man_whol_aughs]

What the hell are you cheating on your a husband

[maddog998]

Where I'm to, we use "house wife" as a term saying she stays home all day and cleans, cooks and raises the kids while the boyfriend or husband is out working.

[Redstang88]

As opposed to what, her sit around the house and do fuck all?
If he’s out working and paying all the bills, she can look after the house. If they put in equal work, then it’s totally reasonable to except equal contributions around the house.

[Anonymous]

If she doesn't have a job, and he's the sole breadwinner, then her job is to clean up behind him. He's at work for 8-12 hours and asleep for 8 more. That leaves 4-8 hours of occasional work for her, cleaning up what little he leaves behind.

If she won't cook and won't clean up behind her husband, she's not a housewife and either needs to get a job or hit the road.

[Ianto]

If, by "housewife", you mean a wife with no other work than housekeeping, then no. It is her role in the relationship.
If she has a job, then one would expect some fair division of responsibilities.

[brigfrey25]

More than just lazy.

[brigfrey25]

There needs notifications for "dislike" too. Would be interesting to see who doesn't agrees with you. 😂😂

[MrMilti]

If you think, your partner does not put enough effort in the relationship, then talk to him. I believe, that is something the couple has to decide for themselves.

[Kinogo]

um depends how big the mess tehy leave and if it was deliberate. Sometimes men who are good house husbands are considered lazy to some people so I don't know.

[Flower7]

Yes, I think so. Every adult should be able to clean up after him or herself, even if it is the housewife's "job" to do most of the general cleaning.

[Anoniemus]

If that's their dynamic and it works for them, that's them. I do consider it lazy if they are UNWILLING to do anything and expect her to do it.

[boggboss]

Dependent if that's what she brings to there relationship 9r if she also works and is still expected to do the cleaning

[broncobryan]

No, I work, my wife works less than me. I make more money and work longer hours than she does. She prefers to do the cleaning inside and i take care of outside, which i pay someone to do for me. Saves me time so we can do stuff when I'm off.

[Jonny_]

I'd say yes, they're also very backwards in their opinions. The 50's are long gone.

[cheapshotbob]

yeah i do my own cleaning but i will go no further till i clean up a bit >.>

[morimeme1]

Not if he pays all the bills, then it's really up to her to do her part.

[TonyMetal_1986]

A man should be well arranged and do not make a mess but the housewife's role is to take care of the house, nothing wrong with it.

[Mitchelljames]

No they aren't lazy wives see it as there responsibilities both should be helpful to each other. That's family they become.

[Snakeyes7]

It depends on what he does instead. Does he have a job and is he there while he is out? If so then no, he is actively getting the means to put food on the table and pay the bills.

[FatherJack]

It was the other way round when married for me... she did fuck all around the house , one of many reasons why I dumped her fat lazy backside !!

[motownplayer2000]

Yes, very much so. Just as I am tough on women being able to do there part and help in every aspect of living. So too much man do his part!

[mysteriousincognito]

Imagine if he lives alone he would be able to clean his own mess no matter how stressed he his. I personally think if he can make a mess then he can clean it up but occasionally his wife can also give him a hand

[nathanp97]

Ya, but have you considered that if he didn't have kids or a wife he might not be stressed, and could easily clean😂?

If the guy works full time and thr women stays at home he shouldn't have to do much house work. If they both work than it would be different.

[hellionthesagereborn]

Oh, so why does he have to work and provide for her and she doesn't have to do anything? Seems like the person who does the least, in this case the wife, would be the lazy one not the person who does the most work.

[worldscolide]

Are women that choose not to work and live off of the fruits of their man's labor lazy?

[morimeme1]

Not if they properly do their part with the chores and taking care of the kids 🤷‍♀️

[worldscolide]

@morimeme1 i agree

[FootballForever]

Yep, I'd say so. If it's once in while that's fine, and he helps clean her messes too.

[Daniel3035]

No we're very busy so our wives do it for us because that's what a loving wife does when i'm up to paperwork 2AM on a Friday.

[Anonymous]

No, if you're a house wive you're basically a slave and should do all the cleaning.

[SuccessfulHornDog]

depends. Are they doing other work around the house?

[lernulo]

If she has to clean all YES.
If she has to clean most of it but he has to do most of the job, NO

[clampfan101]

If they’re home and not doing work, they should clean up whatever mess they make.

[Goodwifie]

Mate I've never cleaned up after my husband even when I was a stay at home parent.
I'll clean the house yes and my husband has to respect that by not being a slob.

[clampfan101]

@Goodwifie True.

[kokill77]

If she has no employment then it is her responsibility. If she has a job then it is shared between the both of you

[esotericstory]

Yeah I think so. If everyone would clean after themselves it would be a better world.

[mikeishereandthere]

Well unless they are busy doing other work or have just finished other work or are about to do other work it's fine. Both doing something for the team

[Anonymous]

Yeah that's fucking childish. She's supposed to be his wife not his mom.

[rockrewls]

I think so, I clean the house do the dishes and laundry myself.

[Yaseon]

Yesi dont think either spouse should have to do all of the house work.

[Anonymous]

Yes and they are assholes. Any men can clean his shit by himself!

[Browneye57]

Children on GAG. Just go back to being a kid.

[blackxbarbiex01]

Stop

[Browneye57]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. Just stop it.

[pigoat]

I would say they are of old times

[es20490446e]

I perceive them as such.

[Brandondav]

They should both help each other at times"'

[ContinouslyConfused]

They're worse than lazy

[bamesjond0069]

No. Because they work all day.

[crazy8000]

Depends just like for the one staying home.

[Exorcist_Rampage]

I'd say that they are.

[cloud9vortex1234]

No, not if they work a lot.

[Nikola99]

No its their fucking job to do that