What is the best way to catch a cheater?

[msc545]

I personally am in favor of using a keystroke logger which is a computer program that records every single keystroke that is made on that computer. The results can be a little difficult to interpret but are very much worth as it is almost impossible to hide anything from it. Keep in mind that it probably is illegal to use such a thing on any computer that doesn't belong to you. I have used these programs on my own machines and have caught women cheating on me as a result when they have used the machines. The programs are cheap and easy to install and send results to your own email only if you wish.

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I forgot to mention that it is also almost completely impossible to detect or remove one of these programs unless you have the locking phrase which is provided at the time you purchase the program. Again, totally worth the money and the peace of mind that you get from knowing the truth.

[KrakenAttackin]

Their phone. A woman's phone is her absolute confidant, most trusted ally, partner in crime, giver of attention and validation, and knows every secret she has. Get into her phone and you have a direct path to her black soul.

[exitseven]

Do some recon. If you think she is cheating follow her home from work or try to hack into her email or phone. Be really discreet and don;t get caught.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[silkjames]

I don't know I been in 2 long term relationships it just happens I have a beautiful teenage daughter I have a bunch of nieces and nephews the kids are so smart and athletic MY POINT IS IN MY MIND THE NEXT GENERATION OF OUR FAMILY IS GREAT THE DAY I GET CALLED GRANDPA NO LIE IT WILL BE Another joyful time IN MY LIFE ! IL will always remember like when my daughter was BORN and my brothers kids I witnessed them all BORN too... ohh damn I'm talking too much again I'm trying to say if u are with a girlfriend wife husband or whoever u fell in love with and u start too not trust them just sit them down and talk to them tell them what's on your mind and look them in there eyes if there are lying to u u will know if u can't tell if there telling the truth or not... damn maybe that person not the one people for u peeps do fall out of love people change confront the people if something is off in your relationship trust me if u don't u will being living your life with a love one u don't trust screw that I seen people spying on loved ones all I know if you are acting like inspector gadget ,,,, or columbo or a detective,, or a mission impossible jump off u hanging down from a rope with binoculars that's where I draw my line lol all im trying to say just get too the root of the problem and ask if u are falling out if love with me please tell me so we can fix it or just move on LIFE IS TO SHORT FOR GAMES cheaters u can have that just send me a memo before u go under cover cheater on me I don't like that game girl ninja cheaters not cool😂😂😂

[msc545]

I think maybe you drank a little bit too much coffee before writing this.

[inhua]

get yourself a dog

dogs have an acute sense of smell, so strong that each individual person has their own unique scent including body fluids e. g. cum

they can also get their scent off clothes and know when physical touch has occurred and dogs tend to be territorial thus they will know when a foreign scent is intruding upon another

that's why dogs are said to be man's best friend

[msc545]

Thank you. That is a very creative and clever idea. I'm just not entirely sure how I would differentiate between the dog being Glad to see my ex and the dog being upset and barking because my ex smelled like some guy. Even worse, my cat Allister has informed me that while he likes dogs, he prefers to make friends with them at a distance and doesn't want one in the house just yet. Seriously, this is a very clever idea.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Dog will not smell when your partner is with another guy…

However, dog will recognize that man and might be extra hostile or extra friendly to him, because he is familiar with his scent…

It can make some sense when a man comes to your house and your dog meets him like they’ve been acquainted to each other for quite a while.

[inhua]

assuming your dog has never come across your ex's partner, your dog can easily tell the difference and it would be an aggressive snarl

dogs are highly territorial and a foreign smell can really set them off

[inhua]

@LaFemmeFatale_1

scent familiarity doesn't deter dogs from recognizing when something is wrong. a dog that smells 2 scents in 1 person will act strange and confused, dogs do have eyes that can see

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

How do you think dog can express his confusion about smelling two scents with 1 person?

How can a dog let the loyal partner know his confusion haha

[inhua]

@LaFemmeFatale_1 when the dog is not acting his/her usual self with that person

[artgorgeous]

GPS tracker on her car. Install an app on her phone to also track GPS data. Keyloggers are also a good option. Go to a "business trip" but come home couple of days earlier and spy on her. Hire a private detective (probably best option).

[Fireguy17]

Give them enough rope and they will hang themselves.
I did the old tried and true come home early and unexpectedly and caught them together.
That was before today's technology.
Why people think that they can get away with anything is beyond me.

[EricSummer]

The best is to choose a loyal woman who will not cheat. About half of all women never cheat in their lives so it is not unreasonable to ask for this in a partner, especially if you are offering 100% faithfulness as well, like myself.

Pick one who offers you loyalty and then just trust her.

No amount of control will save you if you have a cheating woman, at least not in the West where it is not customary to lock her up.

Putting a key logger on your woman is pathetic and endangers your relationship. You will find out things that you may not be able to handle even if not related to cheating.

[msc545]

Sure, men should just reply on there instincts and decide that when they first meet the woman whether or not she won't cheat because men are so good at doing this. He'd like to trade this amorphous alleged skill for the truth that a keystroke logger will give you.

[msc545]

This is a remarkably stupid piece of advice.

[EricSummer]

Such methods are justified if you already have reasonable assurance that your partner is cheating. At that point your relationship is anyway lost and the certainty will help you break up and move on.

Otherwise, without tangible indications, you are going to ruin your relationship and peace of mind.

Anyway, if you make loyalty a priority you can find out a lot in the early dating phase. Some even admit a casual attitude to faithfulness. You can discuss about celebrities, for example, and see how she evaluates different relationships.
Most of all, observe how readily she attaches to you.

Many women only cheat after your relationship has gone way downhill. Best see early signs and work to save it.

[EricSummer]

@msc545 - I'm surprised you dislike this advice so much. The majority of women will only want sex once she has built up an emotional connection with a man. So she first has to lose her love for you and build love for the other. There will be so many signs on the way. There are obviously women who generally fuck around, but you should not choise one of those.

It is much more difficult with men as many will be interested in a one-time opportunity.

[msc545]

I dislike the advice so much because there are so many ways to fail and this sort of advice encourages pursuing those ways, despite the fact that the ability of most people to do what you're a suggesting is minimal best. There is no way to reasonably guarantee Fidelity or predict infidelity based simply on conversational impressions. Yet somehow men are encouraged to try to do this by yourself and others and wind up paying a very heavy price financially and emotionally when they lose both their money and their children as a result.

[EricSummer]

@msc545 - I'm a divorced dad myself, and she cheated on me in the end, so I can understand your frustration. I should add that the cheating occurred after 20 years of relationship and about 5 years after our marriage seemed thoroughly broken and we were together for the kids' sake only.
Anyway, this type of cheating after the effective end of the relationship is more a symptom than an issue in itself.
While the relationship is healthy and strong, spying can ruin it and will bring no benefit.
A risk is always there, but if we are afraid to take it we get stuck in the past and a new relationship cannot prosper.
By the way none of my other partners cheated on me and I sincerely believe that my current girlfriend, like myself, never cheated in her life.

The funniest mistake is when someone gets the woman "on the fly" from the arms of another and then expects her to be faithful from now on 😉. We are sometimes guilty of ignoring red flags when she is so cute and beautiful or whatever qualities apply to her.

[msc545]

You are assuming that spying will be discovered. Done properly it will not be.

You also said previously "Pick one who offers you loyalty and then just trust her." Why in the world would you trust any statements of loyalty - and then trust them? Seriously?

[msc545]

Women lie about these things as often as they lie about their body count - which is to say all the time.

[EricSummer]

@msc545 - You need great mental discipline to bear what you catch incidentally, other than cheating I mean. She may discuss matters of your relationship, including your sexuality, with a female friend. If you have good communication she will discuss the same with you, but not in the same blunt words that are not meant for your eyes.
It's like applying modern magic but it can fall back on you just like in old tales.

Did you actually put this into action or is it just a plan for a future partner after having been cheated on by an ex?

About trust and choice - It is not just that she says she's loyal, but it's about her values. It is also about her behavior with people. In a group, does she assume the role of your partner? Is she cold towards guys trying to flirt? I still think you can also feel it in the bonding that occurs between you with kissing and sex.

Do not make your new partner pay for the faults of the old. Half of all women will not cheat ever. You may be grossly unfair.

[msc545]

I've done this twice. I was grateful for what I learned as it helped me to protect myself. You should never do it if you can't handle the results even though being prepared is probably better than being surprised.

Women do not play fair - is there a reason men should?

[msc545]

Honestly Eric, as far as I'm concerned, all women are cheaters until proven otherwise. This has been not just my experience but the experience of most men that I know. If you are an exception to this, then you are also very blessed. Sadly, most of us are not.

[EricSummer]

Well, one life is never enough to be statistically relevant. In the marriage your experience can count as typical but why would a girlfriend cheat? Why does she not just break up? Does she need more than one man? I think here you experienced more than the fair share of cheating. I hope it has not hardened you too much and a good woman can still earn your trust over the years.

[msc545]

Thanks - I have basically given up on dating and the only women I want to be around are professionals. Enough was enough.

[On_cloud_wine]

My aunt had that installed so she could monitor one of her daughters lol

[On_cloud_wine]

I also want to say that I’m truly sorry your had to go through that, and I hope that you don’t lose hope. True love and faithful love does exist… 💘

[On_cloud_wine]

Don’t feel ashamed if you feel as if your gut instinct mislead you. Maybe the experience you had helped you become even more intuitive, yes?

[msc545]

Actually my good instinct was exactly correct in this instance.

[On_cloud_wine]

I’m glad you caught on and took action the way you did… I see some people who have a blind eye and it disgusts me. You deserve to be happy.

[msc545]

Thank you. This particular incident occurred a long time ago.

[On_cloud_wine]

So. A lot of my incidents happened a long ass time ago and they still scarred me or haunt me until this day.

[On_cloud_wine]

💜❤️💜❤️💜❤️💜❤️💜

[msc545]

me too sadly.

[On_cloud_wine]

🙏you’ll be ok. I think so highly of you for the fact that you took action fast. Good for you.

[msc545]

Thank you

[On_cloud_wine]

You’re welcome

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I haven’t thought of this.

How did you sense they were cheating?

For me, my partner was loyal and I knew for sure he wasn’t cheating as he is like me and only wanted to have sex with someone he was in love with.

[msc545]

People in my profession develop a very finely tuned perception of what others usually do and changes in what they usually do. These are things that would not be noticed by the vast majority of people, but I notice them very readily. Just a few small changes were enough to tip me off. About a week of using the keystroke logger that I referred to confirm what I thought I already knew. I am not by nature a suspicious person under normal circumstances, but the very minute changes in her behavior were enough to make me quite suspicious.

[msc545]

Unfortunately I was also married to her which made things all that much worse.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I am sorry about that. Must have felt devastating.

What little changed are we talking about, mister smartest man in the world?

I am a bit suspicious person by nature, but I was certain he was loyal.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Oh and I am not being sarcastic to you, I addressed you like that affectionately.

[msc545]

It would be very hard to describe the changes in a way that I could make understandable. It's more of enhanced perception on my part. Sometimes it's just something as simple as it changed facial expression or a slightly different vocal intonation that grabs my attention very quickly.

[msc545]

I don't think this is necessarily a learned behavior at all if you were considering that.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Oh okay, I thought you could teach me.

Seems to me that you are very perceptive, it’s good you found out the truth.

[OfMiceandMen]

Bait em. Pretend you are someone they potentially like and see if they fall for it.

[LiamSawyer]

Anti virus/fraud programs are becoming much more intelligent and can detect and shut down keystroke programs as they're so commonly used for financial fraud.

[msc545]

Keep believing that if it makes you feel better to do so.

[LiamSawyer]

I know so... and have proven it

[msc545]

it is not provable unless you have a sample of every keylogger program available. You don't.

[LiamSawyer]

Thst of course you don't know.

[msc545]

Believe what you want.

[Reem12345reem]

for women :

put your lipstick in his car without telling , if he told u about it you're safe , if he didn't tell u about it , then he's probably cheating

[artgorgeous]

That is a good tip. But it might not always work, because he might also think that its a wife's or girlfriend's lipstick and just simply forget about it next day.

[spartan55]

Or he didn't see it. Or it rolled under his seat. Hardly irrefutable evidence.

[Reem12345reem]

@spartan55 then put it somewhere he'll most likely see it

[spartan55]

Your plan has way too many holes in it to take seriously.

[MementoMori777]

I'm not really sure but I can show you how to spot a fake friend

[robocop666]

Private investigator. This is what most of their clients ask for.

[Huntingnfishin]

Show up from work early... worked for me once! Even when I didn't want it to

[jimmy2]

Just watch not coming home later
Never wanting sex , he already had it

[Anonymous]

STD Test. Best way is to catch them in the act.

[msc545]

Very few people that have sex get an STD.

[Opinion Owner]

More than you think

[msc545]

Not enough to rely on it

[andylakes09]

Look for their cheeky little giveaways

[Anonymous]

Well they are the fastest land animal...