I believe some guys are blinded by love to the point that they don't know or refuse to think that his beloved is abusing them. I doubt they're actively searching for such a person to date. Or they think with their dick and regret later. My guy friends are good men and the moment a woman tries to manipulate, they drop her and look for someone better.
Gross, no. Sounds like those guys clearly don’t respect themselves or have boundaries. That kind of behavior isn’t the answer. I don’t think your “friends” have your best interest at heart but you probably know this. If I were in your position I’d cut those friends off.
No, they're being manipulated. Friends around me date and a week later are in a relationship, and break up soon after... That tells me that they let their eyes sell her to them as a partner. They forget to look at the soul, they only see the outside and say 'Yes'.
I think in many cases guys don’t get rid of girls like your friends because they don’t think they can find someone else. In their minds it’s “her or nothing.” Most guys have to go through a lot of trial and error and jump through a lot of hoops just to get one girl. For a lot of guys, just getting one girl was mission impossible. They don’t want to go through it again.
Your friends sound like narcissists.
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Only if you’re a poor sap w out balls. A lot of me. Let women get away w crazy shit like that because we want sex from them in almost all cases. If it wasn’t for sex most men would not treat women the way we do or let them get away w a lot of the crazy things they do like your friend. I don’t love selfish women. Maybe those men don’t have many options so when a girl who is like that finds a sucker cause he can’t get other women, she takes advantage of it.
No, the majority of men would reject those two without a second thought they sound as they are 'blue pill' and have never been taught that their boundaries are important as well, sooner or later the first one will be dumped as she'll probably cheat, and the second will end up being divorced for the same reason or the husband will realises that she never loved him but 'settled' for him.
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In my opinion they do. It’s not because they seek someone who’s selfish, but men think with their penis and often times the smoking hot woman is self-centered and egotistical, but they overlook that just because she’s attractive.
as long as a woman is hot, she gets away with every kind of bad behavior
I’d hope not, but I have no clue what men love 😂 I could never behave in these ways! I don’t ask for anything and I’m pretty forward about who I am, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around why people act these ways.
@Mamaliv Because we're much more interested in pleasing you than anything else, and if you're selfish and demanding, we have a better chance of accomplishing our goal.
I appreciate your kind words, but most people tend to view it in the opposite manner -- 'What are you doing that for at your age?', etc. It's really not that different being 59 than 39, but no one will ever believe that, until they're older. Then you've got 22 year old kids telling you how Socialism is so much better than what we're doing now, etc.
Yeah, it's gotten really bad the past few years. When all you've ever been taught is that America sucks and needs to be torn down, and you don't want to risk becoming unpopular with your friends, you start to believe all the lies, that the world is going to burn up due to the climate scam, etc.
@Billlewis Divide and conquer as they say. This is how they divide society on democrats/Republicans, woke/conservatives, hetero/gay, capitalists/socialists, etc. Nowadays it's even more extreme, because people get bombarded with different kind of information from everywhere and barely able to process it. People hear buzzwords and just repeat them like sheeps. People lost the ability to think.
It's just so funny that they think they're going to vote against the previous generation, but they're only screwing themselves, because by the time it gets really bad, we'll be gone. They're all mixed up.
They shouldn’t , but their are Guy’s that do , me personally wouldn’t be with a selfish manipulative girl what so ever , I have had a few and they are now my exes
I can honestly say there was never a time in my life where I liked selfish and manipulative women. I suppose some guys put up with it better than me, but I've never known any to actually LIKE it.
There are plenty of people giving money away on OnlyFans for whatever crazy reason, but I bet they'd like it more if it were free. That's how I see men who date selfish women. They'll put up with it, but outside of some fetish, it isn't the preference.
Thank you very much for giving me a point. If the woman I'm interested in isn't mean, selfish and demanding, I won't pursue her any further, because I need to be thoroughly dominated, exploited and used for her selfish pleasure. People tell me that I must have some kind of psychological problem, but I just prefer to place a woman on a pedestal and literally worship the ground she walks on.
It's just so much simpler when a woman makes her wants known and isn't shy about it. The idea that any relationship can be an absolutely 50/50 arrangement is unrealistic, in my opinion.
@Billlewis you are you but not the majority of men. Some say psychological issues because you might. I can't say it because I don't know you and the really big reason... I'm not a doctor. Go speak to a therapist and they'll help you uncover the why you're like that.. if you want to of course. If you're happy then the hell with me but remember you could be so wiped out of everything. Liking mean, selfish and everything else you said isn't healthy just like if I like heroin it's not healthy. Not judging you or making fun. I wish you well but the OP is asking this question if it's just men in general and it's not.
@Friendlybro79 You're 100% right in your assessment that my philosophy about this represents only a very small portion of the population, but at the same time, there are a lot more guys like me than many people realize.
@Friendlybro79 I appreciate that, Sir, and in no way, shape or form will I dispute your position, either. To the contrary, I strongly support it -- after all, it's only because of studs like yourself that wimps like me are able to serve women like that.
Same girls fall for the jerks. I noticed men like bitchy mean girls types. They r the sexually aggressive hoe type and the one that get the attention and keep it after bullying the quite rival
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I believe some guys are blinded by love to the point that they don't know or refuse to think that his beloved is abusing them. I doubt they're actively searching for such a person to date. Or they think with their dick and regret later. My guy friends are good men and the moment a woman tries to manipulate, they drop her and look for someone better.
Gross, no. Sounds like those guys clearly don’t respect themselves or have boundaries. That kind of behavior isn’t the answer. I don’t think your “friends” have your best interest at heart but you probably know this. If I were in your position I’d cut those friends off.
No, they're being manipulated. Friends around me date and a week later are in a relationship, and break up soon after... That tells me that they let their eyes sell her to them as a partner. They forget to look at the soul, they only see the outside and say 'Yes'.
I think in many cases guys don’t get rid of girls like your friends because they don’t think they can find someone else. In their minds it’s “her or nothing.” Most guys have to go through a lot of trial and error and jump through a lot of hoops just to get one girl. For a lot of guys, just getting one girl was mission impossible. They don’t want to go through it again.
Your friends sound like narcissists.
Only if you’re a poor sap w out balls. A lot of me. Let women get away w crazy shit like that because we want sex from them in almost all cases. If it wasn’t for sex most men would not treat women the way we do or let them get away w a lot of the crazy things they do like your friend. I don’t love selfish women. Maybe those men don’t have many options so when a girl who is like that finds a sucker cause he can’t get other women, she takes advantage of it.
No, the majority of men would reject those two without a second thought they sound as they are 'blue pill' and have never been taught that their boundaries are important as well, sooner or later the first one will be dumped as she'll probably cheat, and the second will end up being divorced for the same reason or the husband will realises that she never loved him but 'settled' for him.
In my opinion they do. It’s not because they seek someone who’s selfish, but men think with their penis and often times the smoking hot woman is self-centered and egotistical, but they overlook that just because she’s attractive.
as long as a woman is hot, she gets away with every kind of bad behavior
I would not put up with their shenanigans for very long. I don't give a crap how good looking they are.
Disrespect me or treat me poorly, you're gone! I would expect her to do the same to anyone that treats people like your two friends.
I’d hope not, but I have no clue what men love 😂 I could never behave in these ways! I don’t ask for anything and I’m pretty forward about who I am, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around why people act these ways.
@Mamaliv Because we're much more interested in pleasing you than anything else, and if you're selfish and demanding, we have a better chance of accomplishing our goal.
Yup. Nice guys love mean women. I see such nice guys married to awful women and wonder why they like to be doormats.
Do women love assholes? Some of the guys I know who are most successful with women are complete assholes, and women can't seem to get enough of them.
The answer to your question and mine is obviously no. A couple of examples do not represent the majority.
You just described some couples where men play role of being simps. You described toxic relationships.
@artgorgeous Yes, sir, and that's the way I want it to be.
@Billlewis If that's your fetish, then it's ok.
Thank you so much for not trying to judge me, like so many other people have done.
@Billlewis If you're really 59, you can do whatever you want in your life. Time to get partying.
I appreciate your kind words, but most people tend to view it in the opposite manner -- 'What are you doing that for at your age?', etc. It's really not that different being 59 than 39, but no one will ever believe that, until they're older. Then you've got 22 year old kids telling you how Socialism is so much better than what we're doing now, etc.
@Billlewis Socialism? Are they crazy? Lol, I was born in USSR and I was lucky my father was military officer. If he wasn't, we wouldn't have anything.
Yeah, it's gotten really bad the past few years. When all you've ever been taught is that America sucks and needs to be torn down, and you don't want to risk becoming unpopular with your friends, you start to believe all the lies, that the world is going to burn up due to the climate scam, etc.
@Billlewis Divide and conquer as they say. This is how they divide society on democrats/Republicans, woke/conservatives, hetero/gay, capitalists/socialists, etc. Nowadays it's even more extreme, because people get bombarded with different kind of information from everywhere and barely able to process it. People hear buzzwords and just repeat them like sheeps. People lost the ability to think.
It's just so funny that they think they're going to vote against the previous generation, but they're only screwing themselves, because by the time it gets really bad, we'll be gone. They're all mixed up.
They shouldn’t , but their are
Guy’s that do , me personally wouldn’t be with a selfish manipulative girl what so ever , I have had a few and they are now my exes
To be frank I think your two friends sound quite unbearable.
That’s why they are not my friends anymore.
I can honestly say there was never a time in my life where I liked selfish and manipulative women. I suppose some guys put up with it better than me, but I've never known any to actually LIKE it.
There are plenty of people giving money away on OnlyFans for whatever crazy reason, but I bet they'd like it more if it were free. That's how I see men who date selfish women. They'll put up with it, but outside of some fetish, it isn't the preference.
some men love her, despite she selfish and manipulative, but others consider those 2 traits are cause to separate.
Hell, no. I would say some men merely endure that behavior, partially out of laziness, partially out of lack of other options...
Manipulative people, whether female or male, should always be avoided as the pest... Well, that's at least how I feel about it.
no thank you, those type of people I do not need in my life.
Oh my God, yes...
Seems to be that way. My married cousin and my mom also tell me, men love selfish women.
Thank you very much for giving me a point. If the woman I'm interested in isn't mean, selfish and demanding, I won't pursue her any further, because I need to be thoroughly dominated, exploited and used for her selfish pleasure. People tell me that I must have some kind of psychological problem, but I just prefer to place a woman on a pedestal and literally worship the ground she walks on.
It's just so much simpler when a woman makes her wants known and isn't shy about it. The idea that any relationship can be an absolutely 50/50 arrangement is unrealistic, in my opinion.
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It seems that way? Really? This is the only blue user who answered yes. So not sure what you are talking about.
@Billlewis you are you but not the majority of men. Some say psychological issues because you might. I can't say it because I don't know you and the really big reason... I'm not a doctor. Go speak to a therapist and they'll help you uncover the why you're like that.. if you want to of course. If you're happy then the hell with me but remember you could be so wiped out of everything. Liking mean, selfish and everything else you said isn't healthy just like if I like heroin it's not healthy. Not judging you or making fun. I wish you well but the OP is asking this question if it's just men in general and it's not.
@Friendlybro79 You're 100% right in your assessment that my philosophy about this represents only a very small portion of the population, but at the same time, there are a lot more guys like me than many people realize.
That's a fair response and I can't or won't dispute that.
@Friendlybro79 I appreciate that, Sir, and in no way, shape or form will I dispute your position, either. To the contrary, I strongly support it -- after all, it's only because of studs like yourself that wimps like me are able to serve women like that.
Same girls fall for the jerks. I noticed men like bitchy mean girls types. They r the sexually aggressive hoe type and the one that get the attention and keep it after bullying the quite rival