Agree or Disagree: Single biggest determiner whether a mother is a good mother is whether or not they have a supportive partner?

[coachTanthony]

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[worldscolide]

No.. The biggest factor in weather or not a woman is a good mother, is weather or not she allows said partner to actually be a father. Its why you see single mother (father not present or relegated to weekends) homes producing the absolute worst elements of society. I have seen both sides of it, There are dead beat dads, But the majority are not, They are made to be dead beat dads because they aren't allowed by the court system and the mother to actually be a father. When marriages fail the best place for the children is 50/50 custody. It should be the standard starting point.. Not the 80/20 rule that most jurisdictions follow. But there is too much money the states make off of the father for most states to even want to try that. Not kidding. Look up Title IV-D of the social security act. For every dollar of child support collected, the state makes 50 cents. Couples who are divorced and share 50/50 custody dont typically have child support, or if they do, its minimal.. The state doesn't make money off of that so the state decides its in their best interests to remove the father as much as possible.

The state and single mothers make for bad parents, Not fathers who actually want to be there but are forced out by said mother and state.

[CheeseMonster]

No. You should be judged by what you do, not by what someone else does. If they have a bad partner, then the partner is a bad parent. They may be a little bit of a bad parent for staying with a bad partner while having a kid, but a lot of the time that's not an easy thing to change. It's rarely as simple as "just leave them" when there's a kid involved. So I don't think that should automatically count against them as a parent, and especially not as the "single biggest determiner."

I'd say the single biggest determiner is whether they have a good relationship with their kids once they're grown up. If the kids are in their 30s and still visit (and enjoy visiting) and bring the grandkids by, probably were good parents. If the kids are 30s and only seen on Christmas for 1 hour a year, probably weren't good parents.

[electromagnetic]

I don’t think that’s alway the case.
my friend is an amazing mom without the support of her ex partner. He’s still in the picture but it’s Cather more on being there for his child. It’s a mutual give and take really. There are amazing parents (single mom and dads) that are fantastic without partners. Then there are parents who are great because they support each other. It’s a lot of give and take.

[Minahh]

100% just look at families that have a loving, present father and then look at ones when he's cheating/drugging/ an alcoholic etc or single mothers who are on their own it affects her and the kids big time, when the mother doesn't have a husband to lean on she doesn't have energy for the kids

[Anonymous]

Neither. It's a good determinant of her decision making. Some women don't think things through. They react only to feelings and these women are horrible decision makers.

Most guys pass on single moms because she already proven her poor decision making. Anyone can make a mistake, but this is a BIG one. There are some mistakes you just can't make in life. Still some guys will accept a single mom. But some single mom's make this mistake more than once. And any guy with a lick of sense will wash thier hands of women who make this mistake multiple times.

[midnightmoon05]

Biggest determination is based on a mom who does anything and everything to INCLUDE the father. Help the father to be the better man/father to his child/children!
she will work hard to make sure they, as a family under one roof or two separated roof to live and love, respect one another. She is to set goals for all that it’s the duty of the two adults to bring up kids to the better good of the society! They are a unit of strength! That’s the power of a mom! Not the court!

[Anonymous]

Only if she is the reason for having said partner which unfortunately is increasingly the case with women driven insane by fantasy social media expectations.

Frankly we hear it all the time modern women expect men to manage their emotions and make them happy knowing full well that most men are not even close to the level of emotional manipulative power of a woman, and nobody can make anyone happy.

[genericname85]

that's another way of saying that the single biggest predictor of success later in life is having both parents.

i would go as far as to say that this partner has to be a man. cause there's pretty compelling scientific evidence for that.

[RedInnocent68]

Not necessarily. It helps, but a girl can be a good mother on her own, it depends on a lot of external and internal factors. Frankly, saying it depends on their partner is kind of insulting.

[exitseven]

Npo, there are plenty of good mothers that are married to assholes.

[femalepretzelmaker]

My mother raised me and 6 other brothers all on her own and she's super awesome that why its gonna hurt so much when she leaves this world

[Snakeyes7]

I suppose the lack of a father doesn't change how good a mother is but there is no benefit to being without a good father.

[Anonymous]

I used to suck at welding but then i bought a parrot.

[msc545]

No that's really unrelated. I think the single biggest determinant is how their children are doing.

[Anonymous]

No. My mother is an incredible mother and my father left before I was born.

[Anonymous]

my mother had a good husband but was an insufferable cnut to us kids coz her head was jammed far far up her own arse

[YAsQuen]

sorry ladies science isn't on your side on this one. Two parent households rule

[HelpfulWoman]

easy disagree.