One of my college professors who had a double PhD in Microbiology explained the conditions of a life form. One of those conditions is "inclusive fitness" which means the life form reproduces with its own kind.
Homosexuals do not even meet that definition of a life form, because they cannot reproduce with their own kind.
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That book was written thousands of years ago.. even the Constitution can be amended plenty of times because times change, people change. Most of the things in the bible are not fit for today's world. I am not a Christian, but if you're homophobic, just say that instead of using the Bible to justify everything 😂
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If God doesn't exist and the Bible is false then yes, however, I am only talking about what the Bible say not if it is true or not.
Once you change the principle of a thing, you change the thing period. If I changed the genes of a tiger into fish, you think its going to still be a fish? You, especially if you live in the States, are being blessed by the trickle down blessings of your fathers, but you change the principles of the USA enough and watch it eventual crumble from what it was. That is call cause and effect, to which there is always a delay before the effect. When Christianity came to be, the world was incredibly secular and homosexuality was far more common then than even now, especially in the Roman Empire, but yet they all gave up what they did willingly to a minority religion, even giving up all of their possessions and entered into prosperity far beyond money until those after them (kind of like you) forgot about where their blessings were coming from. Then it all fell apart until history repeated itself. So by all means, go and repeat history but you know the popular and correct saying about those who forget history, at least I hope.
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Leviticus 18:22 :"Two men should not lie in bed together like man and woman. This is hateful." 1 Corinthians 6:9,10 : "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
There is no way to creatively cherry pick the Bible into condoning homosexuality. It is however not the only thing the Bible condemns. It's one of several proclivities expressly condemned. And it doesn't mean you give up on faith, just because you have a hard time with something the Bible says. We all have issues that we need to deal with. It's not about being perfect, it's about trying and putting your heart and your mind in the right place.
Why do people care so much about what goes on in private. Gays are allowed to get married legally if we take the bible literally. Plenty of people are in sexless marriages. How can you or anyone else say with 100% certainty a homosexual couple isn't in one?
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No, the Bible defines marriage as one man and one woman, so a man can't even have many wives. Those in the Bible who did that broke Gods law.
Leviticus 20:13; If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Psalm 139:21; Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Genesis chapter 19 goes through a story about Sodom, where the principal sin was sodomy, which had to be destroyed, and is referenced many other places in the Bible.
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Psalm 123, "And God created man and woman to love eachother and procreate. But the Devil wanted to destroy God's creation. So he created the gay, as a man and a man cannot procreate."
Homosexuality is prohibited in every religion which have book by God, even no matter if you change the wording of these books It's not acceptable in God's eye no matter how beautiful it looks !
The Bible says that those without sin should cast the first stone. In other words, in none of your business, you shouldn't get fired up about it and it's not your place to judge. Leave them alone.
It definitely makes clear those who commit sin vs those who live in sin. And it does say you are not to mingle socialize support or otherwise be influenced by them. So it does tell you to keep gays away from you and to stay away from them. Absolutely.
The Bible says nothing directly about homosexuality at all. Half the stuff about sex you claim is in the Bible, isn't in the Bible... which not everyone even believes in or subscribes to (not required, or a crime, last I checked). What difference does what the Bible has to say about it even matter? Gay citizens have rights the same as anyone else, regardless of what the Bible says.
It seems to me only the JWs are true christians in that they follow the word of God as they see it, not the word of a man (or woman) who tells others what the bible really means, or what the word of God actually is,,,
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Yes, but even JW has some un-Biblical issues. Although to be fair, far less than other denominations.
Oh I agree actually, some of them do try and say what the bible means, rather than invite me to think about real world examples and how I think they compare to passages. They also have the thing about stuff being down to your own conscience like blood transfusions, it's not banned, just discouraged,,,
Actually, blood transfusion is not conscience-based if you ask the JW, which makes sense based on scriptures. However, blood derivatives are. Blood policy is one of the failings of JW.
Sure, blood transfusion is a no go. However, they also say blood plasma is a no go, while blood derivatives are conscience-based. This is the problem, blood derivatives contain blood plasma, and this makes both either no go or conscience-based, it can't be both at the same time. Then they argue, about percentages, derivatives have a small amount while plasma is the full amount. However, no Bible-based principles are about the amount.
You can't say, a little fornication is ok, but a lot is not. You can't say stealing something of little value is ok, but something expensive is not. It's about your obedience to the principles of Gods law, you either steal or not, have immoral sex or not.
In fact, if you have sex before wedlock, out of wedlock, or homosexual relations is all equal. The end result is a violation of Gods law, you are either in compliance with the law or not. No middle ground.
This is also why defending homosexual behaviour is a moot point from a Biblical perspective. Marriage is defined as one man and one woman, no deviations and sex is only allowed between the two after they are married. So no threesome, homosex or anything like that.
JW have a few other issues, but overall they are very scriptural and certainly more than any other denomination I know of.
He really doesn't mention homosexuality, the passage people claim is about it is usually misinterpreted, because it's about pedophilia not homosexuality
I don't know I just know that I believe in god and he’s going to like my people that identify lgbtq+ And that’s that.
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If God doesn't exist and the Bible is false then yes, however, I am only talking about what the Bible say not if it is true or not. You can choose to not be a Christian, but what Christians belive is evident.
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One of my college professors who had a double PhD in Microbiology explained the conditions of a life form. One of those conditions is "inclusive fitness" which means the life form reproduces with its own kind.
Homosexuals do not even meet that definition of a life form, because they cannot reproduce with their own kind.
That book was written thousands of years ago.. even the Constitution can be amended plenty of times because times change, people change. Most of the things in the bible are not fit for today's world. I am not a Christian, but if you're homophobic, just say that instead of using the Bible to justify everything 😂
If God doesn't exist and the Bible is false then yes, however, I am only talking about what the Bible say not if it is true or not.
Pure BS, byeee
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Once you change the principle of a thing, you change the thing period. If I changed the genes of a tiger into fish, you think its going to still be a fish? You, especially if you live in the States, are being blessed by the trickle down blessings of your fathers, but you change the principles of the USA enough and watch it eventual crumble from what it was. That is call cause and effect, to which there is always a delay before the effect. When Christianity came to be, the world was incredibly secular and homosexuality was far more common then than even now, especially in the Roman Empire, but yet they all gave up what they did willingly to a minority religion, even giving up all of their possessions and entered into prosperity far beyond money until those after them (kind of like you) forgot about where their blessings were coming from. Then it all fell apart until history repeated itself. So by all means, go and repeat history but you know the popular and correct saying about those who forget history, at least I hope.
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Leviticus 18:22 :"Two men should not lie in bed together like man and woman. This is hateful."
1 Corinthians 6:9,10 : "Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God."
There is no way to creatively cherry pick the Bible into condoning homosexuality. It is however not the only thing the Bible condemns. It's one of several proclivities expressly condemned. And it doesn't mean you give up on faith, just because you have a hard time with something the Bible says. We all have issues that we need to deal with. It's not about being perfect, it's about trying and putting your heart and your mind in the right place.
Why do people care so much about what goes on in private. Gays are allowed to get married legally if we take the bible literally. Plenty of people are in sexless marriages. How can you or anyone else say with 100% certainty a homosexual couple isn't in one?
No, the Bible defines marriage as one man and one woman, so a man can't even have many wives. Those in the Bible who did that broke Gods law.
What about the people in the bible who had sex with their father?
They broke Gods law as well, the Bible describes many acts God have not sanctioned and disapprove of.
Only a mentally ill person would follow nonsensical rules from thousands of years ago.
@supercutebutt only those in opposition, as in open rebellion against Jehovahs lawful authoritie, would say stuff like that.
*yawn*
Leviticus 20:13;
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Psalm 139:21;
Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
Genesis chapter 19 goes through a story about Sodom, where the principal sin was sodomy, which had to be destroyed, and is referenced many other places in the Bible.
Psalm 123, "And God created man and woman to love eachother and procreate. But the Devil wanted to destroy God's creation. So he created the gay, as a man and a man cannot procreate."
Sounds logical as Satan hates man because God created man and Satan, a fallen angel, hates God for kicking him out of Heaven.
@Daniela1982 Yeah see exactly, it's logical even though I completely made that quote up. 😂 But it totally makes sense though.
@daniela1982 it was a joke, there is no such scripture in the Bible.
I know such a verse would not be in Psalms for sure.
@Daniela1982 It would not be in the Bible for sure...
You are on my list!
Homosexuality is prohibited in every religion which have book by God, even no matter if you change the wording of these books
It's not acceptable in God's eye no matter how beautiful it looks !
The Bible says that those without sin should cast the first stone. In other words, in none of your business, you shouldn't get fired up about it and it's not your place to judge. Leave them alone.
Says the Ho
If you want to quote the Bible then quote it all as my previous post.
Not what it means, and nobody is being personal. Stating the facts is indeed our business.
Quote your book and verse if you claim anything..
It definitely makes clear those who commit sin vs those who live in sin. And it does say you are not to mingle socialize support or otherwise be influenced by them. So it does tell you to keep gays away from you and to stay away from them. Absolutely.
Its an abomination before god. Man shall not lie with man nor woman with woman. Its biblical
The Bible says nothing directly about homosexuality at all. Half the stuff about sex you claim is in the Bible, isn't in the Bible... which not everyone even believes in or subscribes to (not required, or a crime, last I checked).
What difference does what the Bible has to say about it even matter? Gay citizens have rights the same as anyone else, regardless of what the Bible says.
What about Leviticus 18:22 then? Is that clear enough for you?
Why are you asking a question and answering it in the same breath? Do you want to hear other people's opinions or not?
It's a rhetorical question, it's called reasoning.
However, anyone's opinion is welcome regardless.
Yeah speak or forever hold your peace.
Things like these make we wonder how it is possible anyone takes religion seriously in the modern age.
Most people do not, however with the bad track record of religions it's perfectly understandable.
It doesn't make the Bible false or untrue thoung.
It seems to me only the JWs are true christians in that they follow the word of God as they see it, not the word of a man (or woman) who tells others what the bible really means, or what the word of God actually is,,,
Yes, but even JW has some un-Biblical issues. Although to be fair, far less than other denominations.
Oh I agree actually, some of them do try and say what the bible means, rather than invite me to think about real world examples and how I think they compare to passages. They also have the thing about stuff being down to your own conscience like blood transfusions, it's not banned, just discouraged,,,
Actually, blood transfusion is not conscience-based if you ask the JW, which makes sense based on scriptures. However, blood derivatives are. Blood policy is one of the failings of JW.
Sure, blood transfusion is a no go. However, they also say blood plasma is a no go, while blood derivatives are conscience-based. This is the problem, blood derivatives contain blood plasma, and this makes both either no go or conscience-based, it can't be both at the same time. Then they argue, about percentages, derivatives have a small amount while plasma is the full amount. However, no Bible-based principles are about the amount.
You can't say, a little fornication is ok, but a lot is not. You can't say stealing something of little value is ok, but something expensive is not. It's about your obedience to the principles of Gods law, you either steal or not, have immoral sex or not.
In fact, if you have sex before wedlock, out of wedlock, or homosexual relations is all equal. The end result is a violation of Gods law, you are either in compliance with the law or not. No middle ground.
This is also why defending homosexual behaviour is a moot point from a Biblical perspective. Marriage is defined as one man and one woman, no deviations and sex is only allowed between the two after they are married. So no threesome, homosex or anything like that.
JW have a few other issues, but overall they are very scriptural and certainly more than any other denomination I know of.
Thank you for explaining that, looks like I got a wrong take on it, appreciate your time explaining this,,,
He really doesn't mention homosexuality, the passage people claim is about it is usually misinterpreted, because it's about pedophilia not homosexuality
Wrong.
You said a lot about what the Bible says but didn't provide any quotes. What does the Bible say?
I did link to a video that does. I didn't want to do all the effort myself, being lazy and all, when others have already done it.
Owww not sure, haven't read any good fiction for a while 😄
I haven't read much of the Bible, but I feel a lot of what is written can be interpreted in multiple ways
But the interpretation options are limited, for instance, you can't interpret it as homosexual behaviour is accepted.
who cares. make your own opinion. don't hide behind 2000 year old ignorance.
My opinion is, the Bible is true.
well you love being wrong then xD ok. can't help you with that.
I don't know I just know that I believe in god and he’s going to like my people that identify lgbtq+ And that’s that.
If God doesn't exist and the Bible is false then yes, however, I am only talking about what the Bible say not if it is true or not.
You can choose to not be a Christian, but what Christians belive is evident.