Transphobic Christians make no sense!

[Anonymous]

It's so odd that Christians are transphobic.

Stay with me on this: Transphobes are the ones saying that a person's ENTIRE BEING is their physical body. An individual begins and ends with flesh and blood. I was born male thus I'm a man and have no reason to think otherwise.

I'm the one saying that my body is nothing but dirt and it will return to dirt. My soul will live eternally and I'll be given a new body.

Why be miserable pretending to be a man just to go to heaven and spend eternity miserable pretending to be a man? God has better planned for me than that.

[Vanidal]

Wait, your mind isn't physical?
Your brain is out of this world or something?
Assume that I can shape your brain with something. Just assume. Can one day you claim that you're a guy in the mind and a guy in the physical appearance?
Because I personally not so sure if I do that to myself I would stay a guy in the mind.
Means, there's male in the mind and male in the physical appearance. And trans choose changing the appearance.
What about genetics?
What about organic reproductive organs?


So far, I've think that it's nice for me to behave female-ey, maybe I'm better a female, it's nice to have tits on me it suites my face. But that doesn't make me a female. It sticks to gene, the foundation. I could never experience what it's like to be a female.
What I experience is a male who thinks he's better experiencing life as a female. It's in the mind. In my mind. Changing my body parts can never make me a female. Even if my mind is satisfied. My body is already match my gene, I think it's better for my mind to follow.

[Anonymous]

Because your not a man Your a Spirit and a Soul god doesn’t Own your soul you do That’s why you could Sell your soul to a entity For Power but if you sold your soul When you die you’d go to the underworld and there’s a spot where Souls are At where they Move salt for all of eternity and they have demon Owners demons have there own Slaves that are demons some demons are born into Slavery chained up to a chain As a Child demon having to move salt for all of eternity some souls Don’t know who they are or where they are they have no memory of who they are they don’t know anything some other souls get there skin Cut off for all of eternity Some other souls Go to Tartarus and the further the soul goes down the more pain they experience A demon can However Purchase a soul From another demon and give that soul his or her freedom and they will no longer have to be a slave they have Guard Demon dogs at the gate hell has Libraries 📚 and there are Caves in the underworld

[BlueScorpio]

Telling the truth is not being transphobic. I feel like this word is thrown around a lot today to back people into a wall of silence. God made you a man for a reason, God doesn't make mistakes and by rejecting who you were born as is saying God made a mistake. It's very strange to have people shout at you to accept their transgenderism when in reality haven't found out a way to accept themselves. To know themselves inside and out. God put a genetic code in you that's designed to be a man and there's nothing wrong with that.

Does God love you? Yes always have and always will, but do you think He's happy with what you've done to His temple? Do you think He will allow this in His kingdom? I'm sorry but the answer is no. You need to get to the root of this and figure out why you have rejected your physical nature as a man.

[myTake Owner]

Because I'm not a man. How would you like to be a man? It feels fake

[Dazed0N0Confused]

Religion is a bunch of bullshit & is what is keeping our species from moving forward together.
Religion is one of the MAJOR causes of war & I am a firm believer that overly religious folks should start their own nations & become a theocracy & leave the rest of us alone.
The US was NOT a Christian nation when it was founded, the founders wanted religion as far away from government as fucking possible. We became "Christian" during the cold war with those "godless Russians". Thanks JFK for ruining our Separation of Church and State with your bullshit Christian rhetoric, but otherwise he was a great POTUS until his assassination.

[RealMarek]

Actually, the US was very Christian when it was founded and there were states like Massachusetts that had established churches that received tax money. The British soldiers mocked the “Bible-faced” patriots, who in some cases carried the “No king but king Jesus” banner into battle. It was only the federal government that was restricted from establishing a religion. I’m not saying it was good policy, but it was the case.

[JDavid25]

No one of the major causes of war is fights over resources, and territory.. Also, even though I don't endorse Islam in anyway, shape or form.. The Muslims were some of the first people to use the complex math system we have today.. What kept humans from "moving forward" were wars, disease, not being able to garnish resources, and the harsh reality of nature.

[XHopelessRomanticX]

What is a man? What is a woman? Until just a few years ago, these questions would have hardly been controversial. But now one cannot answer them without fear of offending someone who identifies as transgender. But this is where ground zero of the debate really is: whether the category of maleness and femaleness means anything concrete at all. In theological terms, we call this ontology, which is the study of being.

When a male claims to be a female, that is not only a psychological claim, but also a philosophical and biological claim about one’s being. From Genesis 1 onward, Scripture teaches that males and females are biological and embodied beings with immutable natures. We cannot change who we are.

"Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.”

To love our transgender-identifying neighbors is to seek their good. We cannot teach or imply that any form of transition will actually achieve what they desire: the joy of flourishing. When one reads in-depth about the scourge of depression, anxiety, and suicidality even among persons who have undergone some degree of transition, we realize something essential to this discussion: true joy cannot come at the expense of rejecting our nature and our embodiment.

[myTake Owner]

I'm not a man. I'm a woman. I'm being myself. To be a man would be a lie

[RolandCuthbert]

It is not odd that Christians would be transphobic. Because anyone can be. Your logic is flawed because it is not talking about the Word. It is just talking about a concept. There are Christians who believe it is a sin. But of course you can use context to call that into question.

It is written in Leviticus that homosexuality is wrong. And those who practice it should be put to death.

But not many Christians today think that Christ wants us to murder homosexuals. Since He preached the exact opposite.

[smølf]

Putting homosexuals to death was just, but it was law in the state of Israel. Christians however do not have countries and laws of such, therfore no killing of any sorts.

However, practise homoseksualitet behaviour will lead to death, not by human hands, but by God's.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Nothing you said here makes any sense.

Adulters were supposed to be put to death also.

“If a man commits adultery with the wife of his neighbor, both the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death."

So do you think those who practice adultery will die by God's hand?

[smølf]

Yes, those who practise adultery or fornication will not enter the kingdom of God.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Why didn't you just say you are not a Christian?

[smølf]

I wad quoting the bible and that make you claim I can't be a Christian.

That provoes you an apostate if anything.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Jews can quote the Bible. So can Muslims.

So. . . your point?

[smølf]

It's not about quoting the Bible, Satan can do that, it's about following God's commands, something Satan is NOT doing.
It's about obedience to the word.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I think you have confused yourself. You are claiming that people who practice homosexuality, fornication, etc. will not enter the Kingdom of God.

Where in the Gospel does the Word make such a claim?

[smølf]

https://youtu.be/xHfQc_3qlbM

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I think I asked you a basic question. You posted a youtube video.

Show me in the Word.

[smølf]

The video does show you where in the words of the bible.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I don't do youtube videos sir. If you know the Bible. You know what Christ said.

[smølf]

Your problem, there are many sources for your to find the well-known scriptures.

Claiming fornication and adultery is not prohibited shows willfully ignorance.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Your problem is that I know the Word.

Show me in the Word where you are right.

The Word is Jesus, by the way.

[TroyDT]

The Levitical Law applied to National Israel. Homosexuality is also spoken of in the New Testament, for example in Romans 1:26-27.

[RolandCuthbert]

@TroyDT What does the Word say?

In the Book of Romans it also says;

"Rom. 6. [23] For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

[smølf]

1. IF you know the word (words in scriptures and their meaning) then you are willfully ignorant of what you saying.
2. Jesus is the word in one context, so if you are asking where the bible quote Jeuses for saying it, then you have to see the law of Moses and see that Jesus recognises it as being the truth.

Thereby, indirectly saying it's still the case.

It's not a problem that you can read and may have read in the Bible, the problem is you are willfully ignorant about the meaning of the scriptures, because you do not agree with them.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Again, this is pretty simple.

"There is no difference between Jew and Gentile, 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus."

And I am not ignorant. You are lying. Everyone has sinned. . . every sin damns you. But the gift from Jesus is forgiveness.

[smølf]

Jesus listed requirements for forgiveness as repentance and stopped doing a whole list of things.

You born again Christians, denies behaviour as requirement to salvation and that is the problem.

You are dening the divine word inspired in the bible.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Really? You are telling me what Jesus said. . . without quoting anything from the Bible.

John 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

"You born-again Christians"?

Is there any other kind?

John 3:3 In reply Jesus declared, "I tell you the truth, no one can see the kingdom of God unless he is born again. "

[smølf]

I did show you the quote, its in the video. Only you refrused to see the video with the scriptures in question.

[smølf]

Only a small portion of self-proclaimed Christians are evangelicals, so yes, most Christians are not born again Christians as in evangelicals.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf No you didn't. That was an example of heresay. You made a statement, then wanted me to just "trust" you on it.

And when you have to post twice to complete one thought, that shows you are not taking time to consider your response.

[smølf]

No, you remain willfully ignorant. Everybody knows the biblical view on sex out of wedlock. You own denomination knows it, the Web is full of refranceses on scriptures.

The video show and quotes them as well and yet you remain ignorant of those scriptures.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf You can keep saying I am ignorant. While I post from the Bible.

When you quote the Word, we can begin our conversation again.

[smølf]

You can Google the quotes yourself, I can't be bothered with people who are willfully ignoring the scriptures.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf How do you "google" the Word?

If you don't know what Christ said no search in google will help. Which is why you cannot show me in the Word where it backs up your claims.

I am not sure what Christian does not know the passage. . ."For the wages of sin is death". . .

Note there is no reference to a particular sin.

[smølf]

You interpretations socks, and that's make quote useless. Jesus approved the old testament, hence he doesn't need to be quoted. The apostle had his approval, so what they say is as if the "word" said it in quotation marks.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Jesus said he came to fulfill the Old Testament. Indeed, he said he was not going to retract a single word.

But the Old Testament said there will be a "Saviour", who would die for our sins. You are speaking lies.

"By oppression and judgment he was taken away. Yet who of his generation protested? For he was cut off from the land of the living. For the transgression of my people he was punished. He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth."

The Old Testament talks about this repeatedly. Note the reference to Christ when Moses is leading the Children of Israel through wilderness. They were attacked by venomous snakes. And the Lord had Moses put a snake up on a pole so anyone who looked upon the snake was instantly healed.

You keep pretending I am saying that Old Testament law does not matter. And I am telling you the opposite. That's why you are unable to respond to the passage that talks about the "Wages of sin", because it clearly states all have sinned and deserve death.

But somehow, you have defied the Word. . . escaped sin and death, giving you the power to judge others.

[smølf]

The wages of sin is death, because the result of sin is death. Jesus bought out freedom by dying on the cross. However, he said those who practice bla bla, will not be forgive.

And this is where you fail.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf So now the Word is "blah, blah"?

Dude, why didn't you just say you are not a Christian?

[smølf]

I defined Christians as believing in the Bible, not church doctrines not rooted in the Bible.

It's your words I am not a Christian, but your opinion doesn't matter, only the opinion of my God and Jesus's God matter.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Christians follow the Word. And if you willfully are trying to misrepresent that the Word is here for humanity's salvation, then you are not a Christian.

So why would deliberately misrepresent the message?

And you are right. Only Christ can judge you. And no matter what you say. . you can only approach the Father through Christ.

Believe or not, that is written in your Bible. Find the passage. The Word tells you this Himself.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert You are not following the word (read Jesus) at all.

You implied that sex out of wedlock is not condemned in the bible and said those who practise it will not enter the kinddom of God, even though the scriptures say so, and the same goes for homosexuality.

You are speaking against scriptures and against the teaching of the Word.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I did not imply anything. I said all the wages for all sin and any sin is DEATH. . . but the Gift from God is Jesus Christ.

Everything else you pose is simply your fantasy. And like you, I will be judged by Christ.

But unlike I cannot approach God without Christ.

There is, there was and there will always be only one Judge. . . Jesus Christ.

Period.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert
Do you accept the word of the bible, about sex out of wedlock and homosexuality, if practised unrepentantly means not entering the kingdom of God?

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I accept the Word.

The Entire Word. Not just the parts you use for your political ambitions. My God isn't a politician.

Therefore I do not use His Word in political debates.

[smølf]

So you is not a Christian, can't accept the word in the pretext of politics nobody asked you about...

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I accept the Word at all times. You do not. Because to pretend that Christ is political is not the Word.

He said, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and render unto God what is God's."

You don't quote the Word at all. You only use your superficial knowledge to belittle and judge others. And like you said,

Christ will judge us all.

All those weird suggestions about the Law will not save you. You are saved through Grace. Period.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert
I haven't talked politics, I agree the bible is non-political.

We are not saved just by grace on its own, but by accepting grace. And the grace comes with a price, the price of repentance and change of lifestyle by the law of Christ.

This includes no adultery, fornication, abortion or homosexuality just to name a few of the most contentious.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Of course you did.

You use the "law" are certain times, right? You are concerned about only certain sins. The Bible says sin of thought are just as bad as sins of deed. Then Christ added a commandment.

"Love one another".

But you are not concerned about any of that. Here you are preaching to me about accepting Grace and repenting. Have you repented? Have you changed your ways?

You are a liar. You have set yourself up as Judge. You tell us which sins are somehow more damning than others when the Word clearly states any sin committed at any time is deserving of death eternal.

But you are going to manipulate the word for your political ambitions. You are tricking yourself into thinking somehow you are better than others. You use the Word not to glorify God, but to give yourself power and control over other people.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert The law of God, not man, big difference.

Love one another doesn't violate "Hate evil, and love good". You do not hate evil.

Only God is Judge, however, we must hate evil and judge on our own what is good company and what is not, and how we must live our lives. Being a Judge and judging is not the same.

We must dailyhings on a daily basis, but we can judge others to life or death, that is for God to judge.
But we are obligated to judge right from wrong on a daily basis.

"You tell us which sins are somehow more damning than others when the Word clearly states any sin committed at any time is deserving of death eternal."

You sound willfully ignorant, the bible list sins if committed repetitively will lead to eternal death. Only the repantaint can make use of Jeuses sacrifice, and this requires out to try to limit our sins.

Your logic is, we can do child abuse and still be saved, and can do whatever we want and still be saved, this is the big lire you are peddling.

The Word say, faith without deeds is dead, yet you are saying deeds are not nesacery.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf It means the example that Christ lived.

And He, the King of Kings. The Lord of all that there is never belittled or mocked those who came to Him in need.

That's your job.

And here you are misrepresenting the Word. And the funny thing is, it isn't like you even believe what you are saying. You are simply doing it for your political ambitions. Which is wrong in and of itself.

You keep saying that God is Judge. Which is technically correct, but we are supposed to be Christians. We are supposed to know that Christ is the actual Judge. God has made Him judge over all Creation. And that we cannot even appear before the Father except through Him. It is like you are talking about Christianity leaving out the most important Part. . . Jesus Christ.

What is wrong with you?

Hate evil?

Sir, no. . . we don't hate other people for whatever deeds we think they have done.

You are not even supposed to hate those who hate you. You are not even supposed to hate those who strike you or persecute you.

That is the Word. And while I do a lousy job of following the Word, I will not lie and claim it says something it does not say.

But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your Father is merciful. “Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; give, and it will be given to you. Good measure, pressed down, shaken together, running over, will be put into your lap. For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you.”

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert

"And while I do a lousy job of following the Word"
Indeed you are doing a lousy job.

"I will not lie and claim it says something it does not say"

But you do lie when claim unbiblical ideears.

Hate evil means hating sins like adultery and homosexuality. Hating people however is a different matter altogether. We can judge acts and deeds, but only God though Jesus can judge people.

"7 “Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged. And with the measure you use, it will be measured again for you."
Matthew 7:1-2, Modern English Version

But also:

"9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals"
1 Corinthians 6:9, Modern English Version

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf And you are not?

You are even lying about what it says in the Bible. And what's worse, you are doing it for political reasons.

Liar, you hate homosexuality worse than you hate other sins. It is the only sin you obsess over. Because you have rationalized the Will of God. You barely know you your own mind. How can you speak for the Mind of God. All we know is the Word. And nothing in the Word claims that homosexuality is a worse sin than a man who cheats on his wife. Or a woman who lies constantly. Or a person who has a porn addiction.

You are lying by claiming unless a person is obsessed with the destruction of homosexuality like you they are not Christian. Though you cannot find a single Bible verse or passage making that claim. The Bible repeatedly tells you not to judge. Repeatedly tells you that a single sin, no matter how insignificant is worthy of death.

And when you quote the Word, you quote it all. Stop constantly deceiving people by quoting only the parts that support your political ambitions.

Corinthians 1:6-10 says. . .

"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

It does not just single out homosexuals. It names drunkards, swindlers, and liars also.

You omitted verse 10 on purpose.

[smølf]

Homosexsuality is not better or wrose than fornication, with the difference only being its unnatural. But the end result is the same, death if pragtised.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Sir, I don't have pretend you can rank sins. The Bible is quite clear. It even states that the "greedy" will not inherit the Kingdom of God.

But you left that part out, didn't you?

[smølf]

I left out a load of sins, the point is Christians have to follow all these commands, not a selection of them.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Right. So again, this is about your political ambitions. Not about the Word.

[smølf]

Nonsens, no point in debating further, remain willfully ignorant as you please.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Run along, liar.

You have lied from the very beginning. Why do you think it is an effective strategy to deceive people about your political goals?

[smølf]

Self-delusting apostates is a waste of time, remain willfully ignorant as you pleases.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf You do not quote the Word and you have the nerve to claim someone else is ignorant.

Stop pretending the Bible supports your politics.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert
I know the bible and its teachings, unlike you who choose to ignore it.

You are the only one talking about politics, I never did. I am not interested in politics only in theology.

I never advocated for Christians killing anyone or the like, but I do say straight out, you are not a Christian unless you try to live in accordance with the teaching of Christ. This includes not committing adultery, fornication, or committing homosexual acts.. Naturally, there are many other requirements besides the sexual once, but they do not relate to "transphobia" in any way.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Yawn. . . the Word says the wages of sin is death.

You said the wages of homosexuality is death.

Stop lying.

[smølf]

The wage of sin is death, means we all sinners and grow old and dires as a conseq.
The price of homosexsuallity is the second death, not just the first.

Don't you know the bible at all!

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Really? The Bible says that homosexuals die twice?

Where? What verse?

[smølf]

Don't you know! It's basic biblical knowledge.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf It is so basic, you have to go that other book to find it.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert
When people are saved, they are not subject to the second death and only die of the earthly first death, whereas an unsaved person will experience two deaths: the first at the end of this life and the second after the resurrection.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Sir, i am familiar with your mythology and superstitious beliefs.

I told you. I am a Christian.

[smølf]

Not a bible believing Christian and that's what matters.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf You do not quote the Word. You quote from that other book you have been reading.

I don't read that book.

[smølf]

I only use the bible, not your word.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf The Word is Christ. And I will remind you of the Chapter and Verse. . .

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

Again, I know this passage is not in that book you are reading. But I read the Bible.

[smølf]

Haha you're so willfully stupid it's funny

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf You can insult as much as you wish. When you find something in the Word that supports your ridiculous position look me up.

Until you you do, you are a liar.

[smølf]

All I said can be read, straight from the kjv. Your interpretations however makes it a lost case, you will remain willfully ignorant, by choice.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Actually very little of what you post is the Word. You post about your political positions mostly. And you pretend that God certifies your politics.

[smølf]

You are the only one ever mentioning politic, I am in favour of political neutrality, unlike you.
You do not know or follow the word, so who case about your opinion.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf Nonsense, it is why you are pre-occupied with homosexuality. The Word does not share your political concerns.

[smølf]

Now that claim is apostasy, the bible says otherwise and the bible is the word Jesus himself supported and preached.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I know it is painful to read. But I will say it again. The Word does not share your pre-occupation with homosexuality. All sin is indicative of wickedness. Including all of those other deeds that escape your notice intentionally or not.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert "
"I know it is painful to read." Your painful ignorance is indeed a pain to read.
"The Word does not share your pre-occupation with homosexuality." I agree with Jeshomosexualityexsualityadultery adultroy and fornocation. Jesus is the word as you keep saying, and I agree with Jesus as described in the words of the bible. Even your denomination agrees, by the way.

"All sin is indicative of wickedness." Indeed as I have said, there is no disagreement here.

" Including all of those other deeds that escape your notice intentionally" as I have previously said, it didn't escape me, it was intentionally omitted since it was not the point. When talking about transphobia, then anything related makes sense, talking about theft, lies and other sins that also result in not entering the kingdom of God is a change of subject.

You also omitted plenty of things resulting in death, you showed no understanding of the difference between the first and second death, but you do not demonstrate any understanding of core concepts thought by the word and see love to repeat it.

Jesus is the word, but the bible is also the word, it depends on context, you show no understanding of this.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølfAgain, the Word is the Word. I am not sure who think you are fooling with these statements are denomination and interpretation.

There is no confusion about sin and wickedness.

I didn’t omit anything. All sin is deserving of death. Period. That is the Word.

Your context is merely your politics.

[smølf]

All sin not forgiven means the second death, this is the point you fail to grasp.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I only know of one sin the Word said was unforgivable.

These other sins you are speak of are not concerns shared by the Word.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert Ah I see your misunderstanding, I am not talking about blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, I am talking about the requirements for receiving forgiveness for sin.

You claim there are no requirements for forgiveness, yet the Word keapt mentioning a list of requirements for precisely that.

The key word is, repentance or change of heart, you can be forgiven unlimited times, when repenting, however, when you do sin deleberaty then you unrepentant and can't be forgiven before you do repentance.

Specific lists of sins are mentioned as minimum requirements, but it's not what you have done but what you are doing. Example if you commit adultery you can be forgiven, but if you after "you are saved" keeps committing adultery, then you are not forgiven until you stop and repent.

It's not the same as an unforgivable sin, with is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

[RolandCuthbert]

@smølf I never said there were no requirements for forgiveness. In fact I mentioned several that the Word said.

For instance, this is one of the requirements for forgiveness. And this command is given by Christ Himself.

Matthew 6;

“For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly. Father will also forgive you. But if you don't forgive men their. trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

We all know about repentance. That's the Word. But you are not Christ. You do not get to decide who has or has not repented.

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf What church do you go to? I am looking for a church. I used to be a Apostolic pentecostal myself now I'm just looking for a church.

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf Don't waste you're time with this individual he hates us white people. He insulted several us white people. .
Dopayo is another racist little girl.
This men is anti white he hates us.

[RolandCuthbert]

@Ilovethesunshine 1. Your weird nonsensical concept of race is not in the Word.

2. I had no idea this man identified as being "White".

3. You find new and exciting ways to become my victim every single day.

[smølf]

@RolandCuthbert I identify as a choladebar, tasting like wine gum and being slightly purple.

@Ilovethesunshine I do not have any church affiliation, I take what is bible based from whoever is offering, I am 100% loyal to the "word of God" meaning the Bible, however, some denominations are more accurate than others.

Jehovah's Witness althoung having issues and in general, rather unpopular, have the best theological standpoints from a biblical view. Some of the key features are their understanding of God and the non-triniatioen understanding, the use of the name of God and general understanding of the core teaching of Jesus and the apostles.

They also abstrain the use of religious icons, like the cross and idols, and do not celebrate headon ideas like Christmas etc.

https://youtu.be/_kHoEDA-Xw4

https://youtu.be/kAVoQ4tI7ys

https://youtu.be/X0--Uj_ARgA

https://youtu.be/y-_v6whv3PM

[Ilovethesunshine]

Rolandcuthbert Face it you are possessed by the devil. Look how hateful you are with white people. You went off on this young men only because you saw that his completion is white.

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf Yes Jehovah's witness do follow Gods rulers and commandments that what I like about them. Jehovah's witness are a lot more stricter. Do you believe most regular church ask their congregation for tithings it's more about the money rather then informed people about biblical teachings?

[RolandCuthbert]

@Ilovethesunshine You are a liar. There was no mention of your obsession in this thread. We debated the Word. And I will not be lectured by an Internet troll about my beliefs concerning a fake made up classification system.

[smølf]

@Ilovethesunshine It's not just about money, it's about loyalty to the word.
Once you say, the bible has to be interpreted in a way that suits you rather than change you theology to fit the scriptures, then it's a slippery slope.

Assuming the bible is true, then only what true based on scriptures matters, nothing else can compensate. I would personally only join JW, if I would ever join an organised religion or denomination. However, personally I prefer the freedom of lose coupling.

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf Jehovah's Witnesses have their lives more under control. Look at how crazy this world has gone that one school shooting from Texas it was a young kid. All because parents no longer discipline their children no long r teach their kids about the word of God. JW are great people they followed they rules. Honestly I have a question what are you're thoughts in regards the Mormon Church? A friend of mine she's a Mormon and wants me to convert.

[Ilovethesunshine]

Rolandcuthbert You and the racist kid Dopayo have not better to do. You disrespected my little brother whiteboychill. Whiteboychill inst racist you are. Dopayo disrespected whiteboychill.

[Ilovethesunshine]

You have no respect for no one. You eow Hispanic cool guy an apology.

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf Why don't you just admit that your racist and hate white ! You and that one racist kid Dopayo had been harassing my friends on here only because we are white when we done none to you. Just admit it you hate us because we are white. Tell that racist kid Dopayo to mind her business !

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf What exactly are Jehovah's witness believe are?

[smølf]

@Ilovethesunshine More or less whatever the Bible says, they belive God is the creator and Jesus is part of creation and is the firstborn son of God and not God himself. They believe the holy spirit is the spirit of God, or the hand of God, not a person with independent thoughts and actions, nor God himself.

They do not believe in the celebration of pagan rituals, they deny pagan beliefs only what can be read in the bible. They are essentially Christen fundamentalists, in the sense, going back and practicing Christianity as they did in the first century - bringing Christianity closer to jusdismen in many ways.

Now, they have interpretation like any other denominations and interpretations are prone to fallacies, but all the parts you can read straight from the scriptures, they are doing the right way, making them the closes to first century Christianity than any denomination I know. Meaning they are essentially trying to follow Christ and the apostols rather than the church fathers who were heavily influenced by politics and Greek philosophy and religion.

[smølf]

@Ilovethesunshine

Assuming the bible is right, then so is JW, if not then they are obviously not right. Are they perfect, certainly not, can I think of things to criticize, certainly yes, however in the end, I know of no one better and more loyal to the scriptures and the theology of the bible, than JW.

In contact @RolandCuthbert and Evangelical Christians believes that salvation is by grace, through faith, and based entirely on the work of Christ (Ephesians 2:8-9). JW deny that salvation can be achieved just by grace alone, without acts and repentance in accordance with Christ's rules and demands (Galatians 2:16), and they are right.

Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the idea of hell, insisting that a soul passes out of existence upon death. Just as the bible says it does, Christians (like Evangelicals) however, affirm the existence of hell, as a place of eternal punishment for all sinners who die outside of God’s grace in Christ. As a just punishment for sin. The Bible, however, shows that hell is not a physical place and that souls are not ghosts flying around alive, without bodies.

There are many differences, between JW and mainstream Christians, but in other, for anyone to see why JW is right and mainstream Christians are wrong, you literally need to read and understand the Bible, as a whole, and not just cherry-pick scriptures and make twisted interpretations to see why the differences matter and why JW is right and not wrong, despite having almost everybody opposing them and making claims about them being wrong.

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf I must say JW people are one of the most respectful people I came across. JW people aren't crazy like other outsiders of their congregation. It's a dangerous and toxic environment. Recently I am looking for a Church.

[smølf]

@Ilovethesunshine We live in a dangerous and toxic age. If you want a Church, I'll recommend JW's, in fact, it's the only one that makes sense from a Biblical perspective.

Most in general don't care about truth or fallacies, but in most cases more about tradition and social consequence, so they stick with whatever denomination they grew up in or what is most pleasing to their personal preference.

To me personally, though, it's all about true or false, consequently, only JW could make sense, since they have the best theology by far. And assuming the Bible is true, then so must JW be, and if not, then why bother with any denomination, to begin with?

[Ilovethesunshine]

@smølf Yes you are absolutely right 👍 I like to learn more about Jehova witness. Things like are what Are the Chruch policy , What's the dress code how is their culture like? I mean if Jehovah's witness follow the rules then I have no problem I left the pentecostal Chruch. Most pastor will make fundraising money so that they can buy them self's their privet jet, fancy cars mansion. I've Jehovah's witness leaders don't do that kind of stuff and that's very considerate.

[smølf]

@Ilovethesunshine JW does not have issues with money, and that kind of corruption. The Church policy is rather ascetic, the emphasis is not on making a lot of money and living simpler lives. Jehovah's witness leaders do not do fundraising, have jets, drive, fancy cars, etc., it’s considered spiritually to live simpler lives without luxury, so it is kind of the opposite. The dress code is one of the issues I have with them, they want a dress code (business style), my issue is the bible doesn’t have a dress code that doesn’t apply in all matters of life.
The Bible only has this:
“9 I also want the women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, adorning themselves, not with elaborate hairstyles or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God.”
1 Timothy 2:9-10 New International Version
The culture is friendly and nice, but as with many small societies, people tend to know everything about everybody and talk. A bit of provincial and suburban mentality.
Compared to the Pentecostal, there will be a lot of theological changes, again remember JW seeks a pure bible theology, where everything has to be based on the bible and all non-scripture-based ideas are considered nonpart of Christianity. So, you can more or less see what JW believes, by just reading the bible. Even the Church is model based on the first century Church way of organizing. The aim is latterly to be like the apostles and scrap centuries of Church doctrines and policies non-rooter in scriptures.

[USLegionary]

My opinion on the issue of gender is that in 2000 years when archaeologists are digging up our bones they won't be able to tell which of the 100 genders we identified in our life only the biological gender we born as either male or female.

[myTake Owner]

There is 2 genders

[Lionman95]

It doesn´t make sense if you see live as wish factory where you can get what feels right for you.

The difference is just that a soul and a body are not two different characters, the moment you say that you´re born a male and your soul female you leave biblical ground. It´s as simple as that.

[myTake Owner]

Then why do I feel female?

[Lionman95]

Maybe you're insecure in your masculinity or generally see being a man as something bad and you can get a long better with females. That could be because you define being a man in terms that you don't see yourself in. But defining identity by feelings is something that is something modern.

[Sixgunsound]

@Lionman95 perhaps it is some of the modern internalized misandry that feminists and feminist run schools go on about so often?

[Lionman95]

@Sixgunsound Maybe I think the issue is rather that he never had a manly posure, meaning neither tall nor strong. He could probably have no interest in manly activities like hunting/outdoor, no interest in sports or machines but rather in creativity, fashion and cooking. I´ve thought of him as a guy that has problems to make friends with other guys but gets along with women and therefore feels better around them.

[Avicenna]

I don’t see why you think this is a religious matter and why you think you you can tell Christians what they should think. No one is obligated to think transgenderism is a good thing and people don’t pay any attention to it in their daily lives unless you shove it in their faces. Reality is that there are differing opinions on almost every topic, so you might as well stop trying to tell people what they should think.

[Alcoholic_Wannabe]

Modern Christianity is more of a political stance than an actual religion tbh, at least in America. Not sure about anywhere else.

You ever want to show those "liberal pussies" how much more "big boi testosterone" you have, just put a bunch of crosses everywhere and end every online post you make with "say amen if you agree."

And suddenly, before you know it, Jesus had said things that he didn't before.

[genericname85]

not agreeing with or not liking something is not "phobic" of that something. i don't know why this terminology was implemented but it's certainly not describing a real situation but is more politically coercive framing.

[genericname85]

i never met someone in my life who was scared of trans people. calling it "phobic" is bullshit.

[myTake Owner]

You can't disagree with my existence

[genericname85]

No but i can disagree with the words you choose to describe your experience.

[genericname85]

Also: if you describe someone else as phobic, that's not your experience. That's your estimation of someone else's experience.

[Sixgunsound]

@genericname85 Boom🔥

[Anonymous]

Trannies crack me up.

”Accept me, humor me, play along with my delusions and my beliefs on gender or else!”

“No”

TRANSPHOBE!!!

Sorry but the whole thing is ridiculous. It’s ridiculous in so, so many ways, and when we ask questions or give any push back to your world view...

TRANSPHOBE!!!

🙄

[Sixgunsound]

Is it possible to be an ‘attention whore’-phobe? Not many people legitimately care what consenting adults do behind closed doors anymore.

[andreasderjuengere]

To me, it's the trannies who make no sense.

They relate to what they WERE in a way. Why would one do that?
I'm not ''phobic'' - I just feel sick of attention-seekers.

[inhua]

just because you claim you are something doesn't mean you are that something i. e. a man claiming to be an alpha man is likely not an alpha man.

[strateguy632]

most Christians are not transphobes they are mislabelled that by bible-phobes who stretch the term to unrelated stuff.

[Msputiton]

Exactly!!! Love all my children.

It also says he is the only person to put judgment among his children.

[joeldalton]

So if we're bringing God into the discussion then you're claiming He messed up by giving you a male body.

[Sixgunsound]

Plot twist

[myTake Owner]

God made me trans for a special reason

[joeldalton]

No, He created you as a male because that's what you are. You're corrupting His creation

[myTake Owner]

I'm male but it doesn't feel right whatsoever and being a man would take constant effort ignoring my true feelings and happiness to live an act

[joeldalton]

That is because you have a mental illness. You need to get some therapy that won't encourage you to mutilate your body

[Sixgunsound]

Feelings are irrelevant, the facts of life are what matter. I don’t think pathologizing it and thus granting it legitimacy as a medical condition is the correct way to proceed here. Remember when the choice to use drugs voluntarily at one’s own expense became ‘substance use disorder’? How much has that situation improved since it was granted legitimacy in social and healthcare circles?

[myTake Owner]

@Sixgunsound I dont choose to feel like a woman

[Sixgunsound]

I’m not sure I understand. Either you act the part because you want to or you wouldn’t be acting it. In this situation where you are going to encounter resistance and social difficulties why would you voluntarily subject yourself to that unless you choose to?

[bobby_bush_eater]

Being transgender makes no sense. You somehow think you aren't what generic code has dictated you are.

[myTake Owner]

Im not going to pretend to be a man because of genetic code

[bobby_bush_eater]

Ok then, you are delusional but you do you.

[John_Doesnt]

Christianity makes no sense as a whole. It's belief without evidence.

[Anonymous]

https://youtu.be/xHfQc_3qlbM

[MrTaboo]

First, no one is afraid of them. We know it's a sin. And as long as they or anyone lives in sin, they will go to hell.

[DarkWinterNights]

That’s between you and God.

[AsaKyo]

Imagine being in a religious cult

[TroyDT]

Gnostic nonsense.