Homophobia And Transphobia Are Not Real

[CityBoy773]

Phobia: A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder, usually defined as a persistent fear of an object or situation in which the sufferer commits to great lengths in avoiding, typically disproportional to the actual danger posed, often being recognized as irrational. (Wikipedia)

Phobia: a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it. (Dictionary.com)

Phobia: A persistent, abnormal, and irrational fear of a specific thing or situation that compels one to avoid it, despite the awareness and reassurance that it is not dangerous. (freedictionary.com)

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Basically, a phobia is an intense and persistent fear. I admit to having arachnophobia, to a point where just looking at the word sparks images and fear. I am terrified of spiders, I truly am. What I have is a literal phobia of spiders. I do everything in my power to avoid them, not look at them, not touch them. Even though they may be small, nonvenomous, and easy to kill, I whine like a bitch and get my younger brother to do it for me.

However this^^^ does not and can not apply to people who claim to be homophobic or transphobic. They aren't afraid. There's no fear. In a way a phobia can be an extreme dislike, but then thats just a bias. What are they afraid of? Nothing. They're just assholes who choose not to understand, and maybe teach others, what it's like to be discriminated against highly. They are part of the discriminating population that causes the hurt for no reason other than religious interpretation, "natural laws", and just plain ignore they're choosing not to fix. Being homophobic/transphobic is synonymous to racism, which is equally stupid.

Therefore, all who claim homophobia and transphobia are wrong. Just admit to being a shallow asshole because you can't seem to get it through your thick skulls that some things just happen in life, like me being born black and my friend being a straight girl. It's out of peoples control. If you want to hate on people for something they sincerly can't control, and even feel it's okay to butt into their lives to tell them what to do, screams out level 10 bitch who needs to get a life and stay out of other peoples.

If you seriously have an issue, however, go to your local college or online, learn Russian, move to Russia, and keep your ignorant ass there. If you feel it's your "duty" as a good Christian or something to tell me I'm possessed or some shit and need to go to church, good luck getting it through to me. 5 years of this shit from my own family left me numb as hell to all your bullshit, I do get annoyed though I won't lie. Also, mind your business. If I'm not fucking you, it doesn't concern you.

Basically that's my take. I will note, however, that I have nothing against anybody or any particular group EXCEPT those who claim to be this made up word homophobic/transphobic. I can't stand ignorant people with the mindset of a preschooler who is afraid of catching cooties. I think you should be nice, at least talk to a homosexual/transsexual, get a little bit of a viewpoint from our end, and be an ally. We need more in this harsh reality called life.

Need a reason as to why you should be an ally? Well for starters, there's a saying that every girl needs a gay friend. He's like your brother who can give you some kickass fashion advice, cook for you, and beat someones ass for you. For a guy with a lesbian friend? She can get to know girls better for you so you don't look like a complete creep. You got a girl you can go to the club with and bullshit with, and you might see more chicks cause she's female. She's a lesbian. She probably knows a lot of chicks and some straight ones too. Why be friends with a transgender? Well if you friends with an MtF, or dating one, she knows what it's like to be a guy and can maybe better understand you. Same applies for FtM. He'll be the type to say, "Look baby, I literally understand you with you on your period right now." He won't be the type to bitch an moan about why you are how you are, but the type to literally understand it on a personal level.

Now obviously these are stereotypes, but kinda true in a way. But hey, try meeting a few an be friends with some. Be an open-minded ally. And if you have an issue with any of this, please. Go fuck yourself. Now like the picture says, have a gay day.

[Anonymous]

Homophobia is defined as a "dislike of or prejudice against homosexual people." It's a real thing. The very fact that homophobic people have such strong views over a controversial issue proves that it's real. (Also, people can simply be afraid of what they don't understand, for various reasons, whether irrational or not.)

Is it ignorant? Oh yeah, I'd definitely say so. But it's also usually very strongly engrained in their heads at a young age. A lot of these people think the way they do because of their traditional upbringing. I think a good way to help "open minds" is through education and media.

[CityBoy773]

Well I was actually brought up in a very religious, homophobic household. If you met me 10 years ago, you'd probably think, "That poor homophobic kid, don't even know what they're saying."

However school existed and with school, different people. I don't know how, but I changed myself.

So I, basically, do not care for the "Well they were brought up" excuse. If I was brought up completely different than how I am today and could change myself, so can someone else.

[CityBoy773]

By the way, I'm looking at the -phobia in all this. The commonly used definition of phobia really conflicts with homophobia, therefor I am have just grown to call all those people complete assholes cause that shit don't fly.

[Remonster]

Though in plenty of cases there definitely is a fear-component involved. The fear of homosexuality becoming the new status-quo for example. Maybe even the fear of what in their eyes is considered degeneracy, and the 'downfall' of society that it fuels. Irrational? Yes, but most fears are.

[Anonymous]

Homophobic is not something we are, it's something are a accused of being.

Yes I believe homosexuals who practises it, can't be in consistence with Gods law, however neither can anyone having sex before or outside wedlock. The civil rights of homosexuals is a legal matter, not a religious one.

I morally object to homosexual behaviour but I am not homophobic, I can work with homosexual or talk with then in any given social situation, I have no hatred towards any one based on sexuality. I do naturally not agree or say it's ok, from a moral point of view, and that is my right as a free man.

[Bards]

Fair

[cipher42]

Yeah, no. Basically your whole take is based on the premise that because the etymology of those words implies that they are fear, they aren't real. That's just not true. The etymology of a word does not determine its meaning. Hemophilia is not the love of blood. Homophobia and transphobia are not fear, they are prejudice against gay and transgender individuals. That prejudice is a very real thing.

[CityBoy773]

I'm literally using the phobia part, oh my god... People... Read.

[cipher42]

Yeah, and that's incorrect. You're using the etymology of the word to determine its meaning. As I said, hemophilia is not the love of blood, despite the philia root word.

[CityBoy773]

Okay fine. I remember you, you have a tendency to continue on by the way.

[cipher42]

Yup. I freely admit that I like to keep going until I'm certain my point is across. My issue here is that this just happens to be one of my pet peeves, so excuse me if I sound irritated. Language doesn't always work the way it seems like it should.

[CityBoy773]

I've noticed...

[Kalibie]

Exactly, just like nice used to mean foolish, and hussie actually means housewife.
Meanings change over time, and just like feminism starting to mean equality, it's dumb stupid, but it just is how language works because humans are dumb and stupid

[Remonster]

Looks like the Take Owner resorts to insults when he's backed into a corner with the simple facts. A shame.. You are entirely right. In fact, phobia can be defined both as a fear against something as well as an *aversion*, which is what this really is about. Aversion to homosexuals, not fear.

[CityBoy773]

No I don't. I just get pissed off by nonsense. I don't get backed into fucking corners anymore.

[cipher42]

It's reaaally not nonsense. It's just how language works. Now, I don't actually agree with the previous commenter in his assessment of your motives, but you most certainly could stand to gain a deeper understanding of how language actually works, as you are clearly rather lacking in understanding at the moment.

[CityBoy773]

I only lack it with those two words. Otherwise, I don't care. I dont even fully understand English, as it fucking shifts per state.

[jacquesvol]

There's a possibility that people people who claim to be homophobic are indeed afraid of homosexuality: their OWN latent homosexuality (or their active homosexuality being outed):
www.listland.com/.../
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www.ranker.com/.../joanne

Thus that's a very real fear.

[ThatGuy98]

Agree with the part about the so called "phobia", but I have to respectfully disagree with your view on non-supporters of the gay movement. I agree that it's not okay to hate gays and bully/discriminate them. I do however believe that everyone is free to have, and voice their own opinion. If I don't support gay marriage, I have just as much right at voicing my opinion as the pride movement. This should be possible without being called a bigot, religious fanatic and being advice to move to Russia.

[CityBoy773]

Just my opinion.

[Solo_Project]

You know it's not all christains who think that. I'm a Christian and no I don't believe that what they do is right but I still respect the people. I'm not a hater its just that I've been taught to think this way so I do. I've have bi, gay, lesbian friends brand I still love them just as much. So please don't go spreading around that all Christians are evil haters because we aren't. And I know u didn't say that but I just wanted u to know. :)

[CityBoy773]

I know that and don't think that, just going off a stereotype.

I have many religious friends and know that's not true, just using Christians as a widely true example.

[Solo_Project]

Ok thanks for understanding :)

[Lolomon]

yea, im an ally BUT everyone is entitled to their own belief and my gay friend would bitch you out for making it seem like their my accessory. Plus most transgender women like girls and most transgender men like men. And people literally dont have to like them or agree with their life style because science does not back up being trans as to being more than a mental illness. So EVERYONE is entitled to their own belief wether you like it or not.

[CityBoy773]

I was joking about that part, trying to lighten to mood.

[CityBoy773]

I don't like it and you're entitled to it, I just don't like idiots who trying telling me their beliefs, shoving it down my throat, then getting very angry when I tell them "still trans".

[CityBoy773]

Like you can tell me you're homophobic all you want, it'll still get through my brain as asshole. I am also not asking you to agree, but not chastise something you can't understand. I don't understand being Muslim, don't see me talking shit about it because I'm not.

[Lolomon]

I mean its cool, but like i said everyone is entitled to their opinion they dont have to like you for being you or me for being me . And lets not attack and be ignorant agaisnt religious people, i know many who like caitlyn jenner. I know more people in the science world (im a nueroscience student) who dont agree with trans becasue like i said science doesn't back it up. So everyone is entitled to their own belie. fAnd please do not compare skin color to sexuality or what gender you feel that is called institutionalized racism. You cannot compare the two.

[Anonymous]

I totally agree with you.

I don't agree with gay marriage. I'm a Christian. However, I can't tell you how many people apply this term to me when I say I'm against it. It's not like I'm scared of them. I just don't agree with it because I think it's morally wrong. But people still throw it [the term] around like candy...

[aniemist]

I think we are all free to think and feel whatever we like within reason, however it is important to treat people with respect even if you disagree with their choices in life, who they are, or what they think.

[fauchelevent]

I mean, a lot of this was true, though the stereotypes are a little uncomfortable and perpetuating those isn't something that we want to do. But yeah, pretty good :)

[CityBoy773]

No, the stereotypes are just those. Not applying to everyone, but what I've been told by my friends the pros of having LGBT friends.

[fauchelevent]

I'm bisexual and some of those stereotypes are incredibly inaccurate (from my experience) :) Obviously FtM people would be able to empathise over period pain, that's true. But most gay guys I've met aren't into following fashion, and most lesbians I know probably wouldn't get to know a girl better so you can know more about her. Obviously, this is just from what I've experienced through being part of the LGBT+ community :)

[CityBoy773]

Well I'm transsexual and get that, I'm literally going off what friends told me lol.

[9mfeo]

Ok. What word would you rather use? "Phobia" is the generally accepted Latin term for it.

[CityBoy773]

"Dumbassery"

[9mfeo]

I feel like that won't be well accepted by the sociological and political communities.

[CityBoy773]

you asked what I would rather you, so it works for me.

[9mfeo]

I doubt, my darling, that you are considered to be well-respected in sociological or political commentary circles.

[CityBoy773]

No I'm not, I admit it. I avoid politics, it's all about money these days.

And in the sociological world, well I'm going to college to be a vet so I doubt that matters haha.

I'm just an 18 y/o with the same recurring experiences being why I think the way I do.

[GirlScoutsRevenge]

You're title is misleading and not true, there are such phobias but the word is used wrongly in almost all cases.

[AllThatSweetJazz]

So your basically saying homophobia and transphobia are poorly named? ... and it's better described as people just being certain kinds of assholes?

[CityBoy773]

Pretty much cause I see no reason whatsoever why you seem to think it's appropriate to hate on a whole entire group of people based, most of the time, on religion or how it looks to you.

[KAZ-2Y5]

same with islamophobia its not a fear its prejudice

[CityBoy773]

That has to be the dumbest term I've ever seen in my life, that's a thing?

[KAZ-2Y5]

Sadly, yes. I was on my Facebook news feed the other day and I saw someone made a super racist status update about Islamics so I unfollowed him because he always posts stuff that is ignorant and I was sick of it. However his racist post about Islamics did inspire my theme for argument essay maybe I should thank him.

[CityBoy773]

There ya go, looking at the bright side.

[G-Daz]

Islamics isn't a word or correct reference. Its called muslim.

I agree it's not irrational to be afraid of Islam because we know for a fact that the ideology can be a cause for you to die.

But you can't be " racist" against Islam precisely because Islam isn't a race

[KAZ-2Y5]

Islamophobia is when you judge Muslims based off of their clothes, skin color, or accent and say there are a terrorist based nothing more than the fact that person is Muslim

[CityBoy773]

People like that make me wish it was possible to beat the stupid out of a person. I've been called many things from a "terrorist lover" to a "goat-humper" (Which I think is beyond racist) because I have had, and still do, many Muslim friends. I get more pissed of than my friends due to this bullshit.

[KAZ-2Y5]

i think those people have a lot of internalized hate. the say they have no problem with the LGBT community, muslims, or black people yet they turn right around and say something hateful about the people i stated above.

[CityBoy773]

Or just being raised stupid.

[ClariceOwen23]

So I thought this would be a homophobic and transphobic, but then I actually read it. Nice take :)

[fauchelevent]

I thought that too, that's why I clicked on it :P

[CityBoy773]

The name is just to get your attention tbh. I want people to read these and understand a little something, so I chose a name both fitting and attention grabbing.

[TheSpartan]

No, I'm not a LGBT ally. Do you know why? I'm not because they are adults whom can take care of themselves. They don't need to be patted on the back all the time like children.

[CityBoy773]

And they also don't need to be scolded 24/7 like misbehaving children as well.

[TheSpartan]

They aren't. They're constantly worshipped by the media.

[CityBoy773]

Media, yes. Real life? Hell no.

[Bonnie12I27I12]

there's a difference between being afraid of gays and not liking them.

[KHaskins]

Somebody's looking for a pat on the head...