Responding to a contradiction in bible

[strateguy632]

in general the seeming contradictions in bible are in 3 categories.

when 2 versions are not identical, still the details are the same even if different words just adding a second witness not the same one copied twice.

example story of hezekia in book isaiah and in book kings.

b when a version has different details, still each version is adding to the other, while preserved only one event not two events. for example jesus shirt was red and jesus shirt was purple means he had both colors but each author mentioned one whi hever later responded to earlier version the additional detail for example someone read book mark so rewrote his version with more details than mark.

c rarely details seem to conflict. for example isaiah 65 said "a new heaven and a new earth" but eccl. said 1,4 the world is permanent?

but that is only due to the translation not in the original text.

exodus 21,6 lolam same word as eccl, but shorter than phrase in psalms

source a, eccl. 1,4 hebrew lolam. differs from psalm 145,1 "lolam wa'ed" the added word stretches a long time to forever so the translation forever is not for the word lolam alone in eccl.

source b, the use in exodus 21,6 the slave will serve lolam... but not more than his lifetime just a long time. it doesn't mean his soul is a slave because didn't add wa'ed. in contrast to praising god added word waed teaches the soul will praise even after death.
source c isaiah 65,17 a new earth. peter probably refered to this part of isaiah.

so the idea earth lolam is not forever, as English translations because lolam is less than the phrase lolam waed, just a long time like by the slave until the trumpet of freedom specified in jubilee year in leviticus.

so the source is the hebrew of eccl. and the comparison with the same word used in psalms and exodus as above so no conflict to isaiah.

[Daniela1982]

Must be in the translation. In Revelation it says there will be a new heaven and a new earth. Or figurative language. No mortal man, not even Moses, was allowed to see God's face as gazing at God meant death as our mortal bodies could not contain God's glory. Along with that new heavens and a new earth we will receive our new immortal bodies and will be able to see God face to face.

[Nikki1989]

Don't expect to make any sense of the bible, it is all meaningless gobbledygook.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

There are no contradictions in the Bible as some atheist claim.

The Bible sometimes records the same events twice just saying the samething with a different perspective or leave out details of the same event which atheist say is a contradiction. Smh.

And beware of all these modern translations as they pervert the Bible as its a tactic of Satan to trick people.

[Telekinetic-Potato]

As much as Christians hate to acknowledge it, I think it's best if we also come to terms with the fact that a lot of the bibles texts were likely adulterated.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@Telekinetic-Potato: No. God's promises to preserve His word forever and ever and to all generations.

I say beware of the modern "Bibles" because they certainly be changing and omitting words from the Bible.

I personally stick with NKJV Bible of 1611.

[Dargil]

The Bible was not written by G0d. It was transcribed by believers in response to revelation. Details omissions and errors were inevitable. Contradictions were a product of the cognizance of men. Biblical contradictions do not refute the Bible or the faith it reflects; only the imperfections of men.

[EmmaMary]

The whole ridiculous comic (so called bible thingy) is 100% full of BS.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Isn’t it much more fascinating for it to be true

And science says it’s true

Do research anomalies or the unexplained natures of the world?

[Agagagagaga]

Sort of like that hollowed out cave you call a mind?

[Daniela1982]

@EmmaMary Well you better hope so or your afterlife will not be all the bells and whistles that some might believe.

[Pohjolan]

This is a common problem with several series that have various writers. The new ones don't always respect established lore written previously.

The new Star Wars movies are a good example of this.

[OfDeath]

“… I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.” — Genesis 32:30

“No man hath seen God at any time…”– John 1:18

What type is that one?

Thats what I thought.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Jacob believed the stranger to be God because he blessed him

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus "So the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend."
33:11

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus “The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father…” — Ezekiel 18:20

“I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation…” — Exodus 20:5

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus “Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.” — James 1:13

“And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham…” — Genesis 22:1

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus “…he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. ” — Job 7:9

“…the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth….” — John 5:28-29

[AnusNdaPainus]

Ezekiel 18:20 all sinners will die for their sin
Exodus 20:5 Every generation since the fall is affected by sin
Genesis 22:1 the correct translation is “ tested “
John 5:28-29 Christ came so that we may have life in abundance

Stop skimming through and actually read it bro

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus the ambiguity of translations are a weak cop out.

These are all glaringly obvious contradictions. If you can't see it, you and young Earth creationists, flat earthers and 5g conspiracy theorists deserve each other.

[AnusNdaPainus]

There are only two kinds of people in the end: those who say to God, "Thy will be done," and those to whom God says, in the end, "Thy will be done.
- C. S. Lewis

Jesus loves you bro

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus No, that's a baseless anecdote and a false dichotomy.

But thanks man, and Batman loves you.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Hey I’m for facts over feelings bro

And this is all feelings…like a woman🤣

[Kudos4U]

Taking verses out of context doesn't make you look as smart as you think it does. If anything, it shows you are emotional and desperate..

[AnusNdaPainus]

@Kudos4U
He is just responding in feelings and ignoring the facts

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus these are facts. You're attempting to poison the well. Sheer hypocrisy given your last reply and a sign of lamentable denial.

Time to wake up.

[OfDeath]

@Kudos4U they're not out of context. Just because you don't agree with something, doesn't automatically make it wrong. These are clear contradictions where one thing is written in one instance and a conflicting statement is made elsewhere. The bible is rife with it. Just a fact.

[AnusNdaPainus]

How can you say it’s contradictory when you are missing crucial details about the text

[Kudos4U]

Lol, dude they are quite literally out of context, you gave single verses. Just because you want them to contradict doesn't mean they do.

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus because no extra details are needed. The statements are factual contradictions. You can try to give the "correct context" but you will either be special pleading or committing a no true Scotsman fallacy.

[OfDeath]

@Kudos4U In this case, it doesn't matter if I want these statements to be contradictions or not. They are regardless. No relevent context has been overlooked.

[OfDeath]

@Kudos4U "Taking verses out of context doesn't make you look as smart as you think it does. If anything, it shows you are emotional and desperate.."

Argumentum ad hominem. Attacking the person and not the argument. The most puerile form of debate.

[AnusNdaPainus]

Clearly extra details are needed if you didn’t realize that the verse was jacob stating that he believed he saw God because the stranger blessed him

You just took the verse out of context you didn’t even know that jacob said it after he wrestles with the stranger

[AnusNdaPainus]

It’s not an ad hominem since that is literally what you are doing

[OfDeath]

@AnusNdaPainus no, he stated he did in fact see the face of God whether it be in a stranger or not is irrelevant. He believed it with such conviction that he named the place "Penial" face of God.

You are special pleading.

[OfDeath]

Here are more biblical contradictions to solidify the integrity of my case and utterly annihilate yours in the most emphatic fashion, read them and weep:

https://www.cs.umd.edu › mvzPDF

www.patheos.com/.../

[Grond21]

It's pretty incredible that there are no contradictions. Some people think it's miraculous