Would you date a muslim?
I would probably not date a muslim. As a person who doesn't believe in gods etc. I prefer dating someone with similar belief as me. I'm not into dating someone with any religions, but especially not Islam for instance, because I prefer a partner with a more Western culture and views on things. These Muslims I've seen do have some conservative opinions that I'm not a big fan of. Example what people can/can't eat, women's rights, what to wear, praying five time a day etc.
If I dated a Muslim, my date have to respect women's rights plus me and my family's way of living. I would still eat what I likes to, wear what I wants to and do what I wants to do. Just because the date is religious doesn't mean I needs to be it too in the relationship. If my date couldn't respect that, I would simply just break up.
I knows it exists conservative religious from all religions. But where I lives the majority of Christians for example aren't conservative. They're quite modern and Western. Most Muslims in my area are immigrants and refugees with a different culture and values. Many of them have opinions about women's right and the Western way of living that I'm disagreeing with. I've not met modern Muslims in my area yet. My cousin broke up with a Muslim because he wanted her to convert and if she didn't, he wouldn't spend his time with her anymore.
This is my opinion about the subject according from what I've seen now. If I meets a modern Muslim I might change my opinion, but I doubt I would meet one very soon.
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Saving sex for marriage?
When it comes to saving sex for marriage I'm fine other people are doing it, but I'm honestly not into marriage and thinks it's fine just being a couple. I don't need any marriage. I thinks I needs to know a person for almost a year before going to bed with them.
Convert?
I wouldn't convert to Islam. Now I'm an non-believers. If I ever 'convert' to a religion I thinks it would be something more liberal where it's no strict rules, but just believes because you want to and being yourself. Treating other humans nicely is important regardless of faith.
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From my viewpoint, I really don’t care what religion do you follow, what the colour of your skin is or your ethnicity. But let’s start with problem number 1 - Muslims are not allowed to date. Before someone jumps in with “not all Muslims follow the rules” yes I do know that. I am just repeating what I’ve been told. That’s all.
Problem number 2 - I am an atheist. That is important because Muslims are not allowed to date nor to marry atheists.
Would I date someone for whom I have feelings for? Of course. But I wouldn’t want to lie to my partner - I am an atheist and I don’t think that will change. Conversion would be a lie since I would pretend to be something I’m not. This is me just be honest - I respect everyone’s choice to believe in what they believe in, follow the religion they want to follow and plan their life in the way they want - at the end of the day I care what kind of person you are more than about anything else.
Have done twice. Once very seriously. My BFF's husband's BFF. He travels we aren't a fit for reason outside of religion but we are friends.
For his work he's often abroad asa consultant on his own for 6 months or more than home for many months if he likes.
When he was in Brazil he was very happy because no one expects you to speak Portuguese and his Pakistani coloring was not abnormal. He was thick wonderful hair and dresses very well with custom made shoes.
Then he went to a certain country in Scandinavia and they refused to serve him at a nice restaurant. They served him at the bar upon a retainer at first. Then when he brought clients they were very open to him but he was afraid to dine anywhere else for fear of rejection.
He was their during the winter, felt isolated, and came back horribly depressed. Wouldn't leave his highrise and grew out his hair. This is a man in his 20's at the time, born rich in the US who had a cobbler in Switzerland make his shoes.
When he came back from Northern Europe he was honestly never the same. He was never cocky and always generous with tips to waiters and picking up tabs when maybe he shouldn't because he didn't know most
people in our party.
I'll never forget what it did to his confidence for that dark period. This is a man who made millions in his twenties working in sales but was knocked on his ass in Scandinavia when he was told he couldn't eat at places.
It wasn't just that it's that it's lonely being abroad if you can't make friends. The culture is different. He usually made friends with restaurant staff at first then others.
I'lll just never forget the way he was treated. He could be of any faith and I actually hated just a little how perfect his hair and clothes were. He's very American. He speaks a few languages but not Farsi or Arabic.
I don't like your inclusion of the hajab in the pic.
I am Muslim from Turkey. In Turkey in big cities, most of the times virginity is not important anymore but still sex is a taboo. I don't think it is because of religion but rather societal pressures, especially from moms and dads as Turkish culture is collectivist unlike Western culture, and family values, opinions etc. are important when you live your life, so you cannot really live free unless you are ready to break your own shell without getting scared that you'll be weirdo or outcast of family. So sex before marriage is not really something unless you're in rural areas.
I dated Turkish guys. As well as 2 American, 2 German, 1 Vietnamese, and 1 Italian. Least was 7 months among these relationships. I can tell culturally these guys are very different. Turkish guys are very loving, caring, respectful, yet possessive. Germans are the same but they are not possessive. Americans basically have no manners or respect towards women unless you have sex with them. Should I put these into being Christian vs. Muslim? No i don't think so.
I think religion is something to not care unless the person you date is extreme. I would not wanna marry an extreme Muslim, Christian, Jewish.. any religion. My dad is Jewish and my mom is Muslim in Turkey, and I don't think they had any problem raising me, and I chose Islam by myself, but rather in a lapsed way.
So I would not care marry or date as long as we speak the same language in all other parts of life. Religion can be different as long as there is no extreme values, suppressing or oppressing others, trying to convert, or trying to impose on kids in future etc. I'd marry I would not care.
"He has to be a Muslim too" - this is exactly why I would never date a Muslim.
1. He's only gonna want me to convert.
2. My parents would so disown me if I fell in love with a Muslim. I came from a Muslim country and these past 2 years, the number of radical fanatics have risen a lot. You will never succeed doing business if you're not Muslim. The former government was jailed for 2 years because he's Christian and is of ethnic minority. The adzan starts at 4:30 am and you hear something f4om 2 mosques near my home every. fucking. hour. Sometimes twice an hour. It's fucking ridiculous. It makes me really, really, REALLY not want to live with Muslims. Makes me want to change my fucking nationality cause all of this makes me so angry and embarrassed. Muslims can't separate religion and other things. That's why.
3. I won't want to raise my kids Muslim.
4. I think Islam needs a modernization. The religious fanatics are like still living in middle ages with child marriage and honor killings, and separation between men and women, and all
No. A person should never want me to change in order to be with me... if I change it's because I felt it, not because someone demanded it as a rule to be with such oerson... that's not love, when you love, you accept the person how they are and if they wish to change and you like that change, well even better! But never having conditions and rules for others to change solely to be with you... ewwk! No👎!!
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I am an atheist. But religion is far less important to me than politics. If a girl believes in a god or gods, that's up to her. I think it's silly, but if she's an agnostic theist, I can at least still respect her belief. (You dont KNOW any more than I do. lol. Let's not be silly)
If a girl is Muslim, that's one thing. I find being religious or not doesn't speak to how GOOD of a person you are. And that's where I am chiefly concerned. I'm only interested in dating and being friends with people I can see good in. And I find that a person's political ideals *and their reasoning for holding those ideals* are some of the best indicators for what kind of a person they are.
(What i mean is, even if I disagree with someone very fervently on a given political issue, if they can justify their feeling on that topic in a way that allows me to understand that they feel that way out of love and concern for others, then I can for sure respect that. And that shows me they are perhaps good people)
Clear as mud? lol.i am so sorry, or it may sound i a an asshole. but for now i can say i won't. i am being honest because my experience with this particular community is you can say not pleasant.
1. they hate science , basically they hate everything which can go slightly againts there Holy book quran.
2. they are too much resistive to change, change is something they see like very bad, i mean are we supposted to live in 800 ad?
3. even though its there community which is responsible for killing of many, somehow they always potrait themselves as victim. and some them even hold a soft spot for terrorists, making arguments like they are just victim with no control of anger.
4. burqa, whatever argument u make, its a bullshit tradition which only disregards women. and idc it should be banned.
i can go on, but i think i made my point. so if i ever met a muslim girl, my firt response would be a no. i can stay frnds but can't date. if somehow, as i still believe its only my experience talking there are still muslims which contradicts all i have mentioned above, i can date but for now. i can't.As a christian middle eastern, i can say that such relationships sometimes happen Muslim/Non muslim (mainly christian) , do i support it? no not at all, in fact i hate such relationships for few reasons :
1-Muslims are controlling and they believe you should convert, screw other religions and beliefs cause theirs rule, not my style.
2- Muslim men are allowed to marry out of their religion but muslim women can never do that according to islam, why? cause otherwise they would lose so many members
3- Muslims put christians on a pedestal, they hate them but at the same time absolutly love date and marrying them, they find them more open minded and attractive.
4- Women are kinda naive they think he "Loves" her but no he just treats you like a trophy to go brag to his guys how he scored a "christian" girl (usually the girl is really low class/quality, but to them she's still christian so good enough to bang) .
5- I dont see myself seriously dating or marrying someone part of a cult that pretty much hates everyone and wants eveyone to convert to whatever religion it sees fit.
Here you have it thats how it plays out most of the time, rarely does it work out and the dude they choose to marry is super fantastic, usually he turns shitty after marriage or just bangs and dumps them, quite easy really i dont even feel sorry for such girls anymore they choose this lifestyle themselves knowing exactly what they are getting into.Nope.. i wouldn't date a Muslim coz i dont believe women are 2nd class citizens.
Sharia Law is too male focused and the whole religious faith system is opposite of all i believe in.
(The christian religion is the positive outcome of the Jewish heritage. Islam is the anti-Jewish religion. Abraham spawned both religions, one without God's blessing and one with God's blessing. You can research the rest for yourself)
So, no I have too much self esteem and self worth to date or marry a Muslim.
I would hope women in that religion could escape from it's shackles and live a free life with a real man.
Just my 2 cents worth...
p. s. I get constantly harassed on GAG by Muslim/Islamic guys to the point i have to block them AND still they will give me crap on my Posts and Questions. Also, not to be mean, but South East Indian guys persistently bug me to send them naked pics and other annoying questions...I would have no problem dating a Muslim woman as long as she lives like she lives in America. She would have to have parents and/or family members that have no problem with me being Christian and White. She would have to live in our culture, not a Mid East culture. Lastly, if she would require me to convert, that will not happen. There is too much in the Quran that is very different from being a Christian. I guess what I'm saying is that as long as she is willing to live like an American and not want to impose Islam on anybody, I'd be fine with it. I would never try to convert her and that should go both ways.
I'm sorry, but I wouldn't. I know some Muslim girls are very kind, but I wouldn't. I know I can't come up with a Muslim girl for sure and I will never convert.
1) I'm Catholic, and that would lead to some problems between us.
2) I want a free girl who wouldn't cover her hair with a black veil and enjoy life with me.
3) I'm sorry to tell that I hate watching innocent people suffer because of Muslims trying to spread their faith.
4) I can't date a girl with too many strict family laws and religious laws.
There are many more reasons. And, I'm sorry if I hurt you, but that's the truth. You all must change.I've dated a Muslim, he was a good guy but those cultural and religious differences eventually start to surface and it can be a hard bridge to gap. I personally wouldn't convert and I feel like that's the eventual expectation. I'm with a devout Christian guy now and we run into a lot of conflicts and I'm starting to realize my open mindedness is working against me in the dating world. This is a new relationship and he's already pushing for me to go to church or read a bible and that's just not for me. I respect his beliefs, but I feel like he's starting to push them on me and he doesn't share the same respect when it comes to me having my own opinions. I think it doesn't hurt to think how things could turn out in the long run and if you're with a non Muslim there is a possibility they won't convert and you'll have invested yourself emotionally into someone you can't marry.
No I definitely wouldn't date a Muslim, but saying that I wouldn't date anyone who is religious. My first ever boyfriend was a Muslim, and the reason I told myself I would never date another religious person again actually relates to one of your points. He treated me like a dirty secret and told me he wouldn't even introduce me to his family if I didn't convert. No offense to you, but asking someone to change their core belief system for you is really selfish. You love someone for who they are or move on, but I can tell you now that I felt disgusted and betrayed when I was told I wasn't good enough as an agnostic to meet his mother...
I don't think I would mind dating someone from the faith, but I think I'm to American and B****ie for it lol, even in my faith already I converted to a christian faith and I'm to much for them and can't see myself marrying anyone haha. but honestly I think its only a few couples that can make a marriage work with two faiths., If one of you needs to convert why couldn't you? you may learn more about the world, and god and find you want something out of your norm I don't know.
waiting for sex is fine, there is nothing wrong with it as long as its a personal choice.It'll be a pressing matter to convert so sudden since it'll be years and years of influence be it from another religion or none at all. To convert means to have a definitive stand on belief that will change the your very lifestyle, let alone who you are as a person perhaps. Even if I had the deepest love for a Muslim lady, it will be hard to switch especially at an adult age. And frankly, the reason for change will be due to the person they love. So in a way, they would be on a higher tier than Allah, which should not be.
In the end it'll be a tragic thing for both sides. Only the ability to take in both religions knowing that to some this is sacrilege would there be harmony without many barriers.I have taught a few Muslim girls while I was a swimming instructor. Granted they were kids and I was a teen and through my late 20's an instructor. I never know that they were Muslim until I saw some of hem after lessons in the hallway, unless they wore a swimming burka, bathing suit kind of thing.
Anyways, I guess what I'm saying is that they are just like other people so for that I would say yes, but I am not religious and couldn't be with someone who was overly religious or had very different view of life. No I wouldn't wait for sex either, I've had to wait long enough for that.As a person that grew up in a Muslim country, no. People can say Islam is nice all they want but I have read the quaran (was forced to in Iran) and what is there is there no matter what Muslims say. It's disgraceful towards women and humanity. Most Muslim people have never been treated how women in Iran are so they don't understand. I understand and my scars don't lie when I say I would definitely not support myself or anyone I know dating a believing Muslim.
Easily yes I'd date a Muslim that doesn't matter to me if I'm in love with that person but I can't take a religion seriously that believes a holy book just fell out the sky.. more like thrown outta some guys window lol fuck religion you want to worship your creators go pray to your birth parents although they might call you a freak atheism for the win! well for me at least.. ANYWAY! anyway before any Jews try to crucify me just remember this is only MY opinion it shouldn't mean anything to you so don't get mad.
This is your average, every day example of muslim intolerance and demands. Not only she wishes to marry someone from another race, which means the guy will also be from a different culture, she expects him to dump his won culture, basically his own identity just so she can be a princess for one day in a muslim marriage ceremony.
Muslims want on one hand the whole pie and on the other hand the dog fed. Good luck finding such a guy. I don't say that you can't find one. You can but he will be a feminine wimp who will never make you happy. I've seen plenty of such idiots.No, I would not date a muslim and if I did I would not convert. Personally, I have nothing against muslims (I'm not going to treat someone badly because they are muslim, and I also have plenty of muslim friends) but my beliefs clash with theirs. I will NOT put on a scarf to hide my hair or wear long clothes that cover my body just for "modesty". If women have to do it then why don't men have to? When men start wearing scarves then thats when I will consider it. Also, I am christian so marrying someone who is not christian would only bring complications.
1. i dont care about my wife's religion... as far as i'm concerned she can believe in the stone.
but if she cares about my religion and she says i must be muslim so we can get married because islam is a better religion than mine or just because 2 people that married have to be from the same religion or any other stupid reason then i would tell her to get away.
2. However, if she is a muslim thats no problem, but she must keep her hair visible because there is no way in hell that my wife covers her head.The conditions you have stated are the reasons I will not date a Muslim woman again. I once dated a Muslim woman whom I loved so much. I couldn't entertain the idea of converting to a Muslim.
It doesn't make sense why religion has to play a role in my feelings for and spending my life with a woman I love. Why can't I retain my own religion or non-religion? Is it that Islam is better than my own religion or non-religion?I am not a muslim. Do you think you really can force someone to convert to any religion? Maybe he can tell you I am a muslim now, but inside him maybe he won't believe. In my case that I don't have religions believes, I wouldn't accept anyone who would just marry me if I started to believe in something. It's wrong. However I could marry with people of any religion and I would respect their religion, but don't make me believe.
The fact that she's Muslim and wants the option of dating a non Muslim shows she doesn't really follow her religion. Only men are allowed to date non Muslims in islam because women are thought of as weaker minded.
I would date her only if she was willing to convert to ChristianityMuslim isn't a race, and no I wouldn't. the average Muslim dates only inside their religion, and whenever they date outside of their religion, they force their partner to convert, and not be open to convert themselves. you suggesting this could actually be grounds to honour kill you.
stuff like that is the reason why I rather date a Christian or a satanist over a Muslim
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