@ayman11 Yeah it’s pretty cool.
I have been in such a relationship but unluckily it's ended
@ayman11 that’s a shame. Was it a good relationship.
It was very successful that all her friends were jealous how lucky she was
@ayman11 So why did it end?
She cheated on me and fell inlove with someone else
@ayman11 Sounds like it wasn’t as successful as you thought it was. It’s unfortunate.
It was for three years but it fell apart later i don't know why plus it was LDR. Can we talk in private messages?
A strict Muslim, and dating non-Muslims and cheating... You mean dating multiple women like that?Ok uh they are completely two different things. A Muslim man fearing God would never do what your ex did to you.
What is bothering you about my response, my experience dating a Muslim? Or that I dated a Muslim?
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I understand those horrible men are MuslimsBut I hope you aren't convinced that they are practicing Muslims.Islam doesn't allow you to touch anyone of the opposite gender. So touching a stranger woman's breasts is a big no-no. The Hadith mentions that a man would rather touch hot burning coal than a stranger woman.Soooooo
You definitely need help. I am worried for any fellow Muslim brother who tries to start a conversation with you. Stay away from Muslim men. Thank you.
You are awesome
@ChickMagnetPak I know there isn't, but only if its a mulsim man marrying a kufr. Muslim women have to marry a muslim man.And tbh its better that way.
Religion IS a culture. Prove me wrong.
Religion is a culture. But culture is not a religion.
If the majority of Muslims act a certain way then even if the Holy Quran disagrees it is moot.
People make the religion. Not the book.
Women have to wear a hijab or burqa. But men don't have to hide anything? How is this equal or Fair?
You are quick with insults. Should that surprise me? Nope.
And I am not atheist.
Explain to me why the rape is more common in France since bringing in Islamic immigrants?
Most Muslims don't even know the Quran scripture that well. They just do it because they are raised to do it. They do whatever the imam tells them to and don't think for themselves.
Religion/faith affects culture in many ways
Looks like you know what you're talking about.
Muslim Women cannot be with non-Muslim Men.Open minded or not it's against Islam.
@11110000bbbb its ok if its against islamThats the point. Progess doesn’t come from religion it comes from unity and progessive countiesIts a reason why muslim countries are behind in every way!
Changing the religion is absolutely terrible, it already changed enough as it is.
@11110000bbbb no you dont have to change the religionYou just have to ignore the nonsenseThats part of being smarter and allowing your country to progress. You can't progress if you are stuck in religion to the core word for word
You can't ignore your own religion.
@11110000bbbb Sure you can ignore parts of it that are destructive and damaging Homosexual muslims are a real thing whether you like it or not
@11110000bbbb you personally should not date a non muslim and that's completely fine, but don't try to dictate others' lives based on your understanding and faith.
@cinderelli you're right but also we can tell what's right and what's wrong based on what rulings actually exist in Islam. And in Islam, it is NOT legal to marry a non-Muslim, period.
@CubsterShura "And in Islam, it is NOT legal to marry a non-Muslim"correct, and your job as a human is to question that not just obey anything written in a book with zero proof of it actually being real thats part of progression. But there's no point in this topic, you believe what you believe because that's all you've known since birth, if you were born in a buddhist family you simply wouldn't think this way. its all based on the fact you are born in a muslim family just things to think about...
If I had as much knowledge as God did I could question them. But I don't know more than my creator.
@CubsterShura What if I said the Quran has at least 50 mistakes in it... will you still think its from a creator?
@TripleAce How dare you make sense!!! xD by the way good to see you still lurking around this place
@cinderelli ya lol...you see let me explain I'm not against following religion or islam for that matter... If it helps you become a better person and brings happiness in your life, sure why notWhat I am against is foolish lies, if someone can't think for themselves thats a huge problem - how can you think its a word of god with such fundamental errors that would make any scientist turn his head 720 degrees I would respect someone more if they just said, yes its possible its not true but I just follow it because I believe in the faith and it brings joy to my life. not when someone says, its the absolute truth, its god, its 100%, every other religion is false but this one... I believe everything it says word for word, we should have sharia law yadaaa yadaaa yadaaa thanks for listening lol
@cinderelli well all missed you , stick around more will ya
I do plan too <3 I got too busy with studies and other stuff. yeah I get your point, in my opinion if you're a believer and you have a bond with God then the first thing you do is to not judge other's faith and question it when they do something differently. Because you must believe they're God's creation as well and deserve the same respect as you do. I'm not only talking about Islam but Christianity and Judaism as well because these three stem from the same foundation. Also, we're all selective believers, we only question and preach when others are doing something, we'd happily revisit these beliefs if we fall into a similar situation. All sinners question other sinners for sinning differently.
Seriously, no use of carrying this discussion further. I don't even know why I bothered talking to a man who thinks having strong faith in God equals not having ability to think on my own. Sorry but I don't have weak faith to question stuff and I understand that the ruling of not marrying a non-Muslim is meant for MY own good at the end of the day. Peace ✌️
@CubsterShura Respectfully i dont think it means that in all cases no. But if you just blindly follow without thinking and seeing the other side. Then yesId say in your case you haven't probably experienced the other side of the world yet. So this is all you knowYou might agree with me more in the future say in 10 yearsBut for now its fine. If you can’t see even a tiny fraction of what im saying makes senseThen its pointless cause you simply can’t see it right nowI never disagreed with your view 100%. But it seems like you always disagree with any view thats opposes islam 100%Thats a clear clear bias! Think about it :)
Dude you're the one causing the problem. You're the one who brought up all this stuff in the first place because I said I won't marry a non-Muslim. In fact the attitude you have towards Islam and belief in the first place is why I wouldn't recommend a Muslim to even marry a non-Muslim. Can't imagine staying under the same roof with someone who is so disrespectful towards my religion. I once tried dating a Christian guy, and he was also very disrespectful towards Islam and that kinda made me realize why it's not good for me.Not dating non-Muslims means I got a few billion less men to choose from, and it's ok. I'm only marrying one man, lol.
@CubsterShura I only tagged you to discuss it with you, im not saying anything mean to you thoughYes i admit I do have negative things to say about islam. But not about you. I understand it’s important to you of course Its important for the world to mixI say this cause i once met an amazing muslim girl that i wanted to be with. But her faith is what kept us apartI knew a friend that fell in love with a white blonde girl and his family rejected her. Again because of faith. Thats extremely regressive as a societySo he did the right thing. He rejected that part of islam and stayed with her. Which is the right thing to doIm only saying. If you end up falling in love with someone thats not muslim. Dont let the faith take away your love for him. Im not saying go out look for a non muslim lol just if it happens try to give it a chanceHow is that so bad? Thats what i mean by dont be robots. God would never deny two humans that are in love. Regardless of their faith
you can't just give it a chance unless that love makes you believe what they believe lol.
@11110000bbbb first i wanna tell you. You’re always really nice and respectful when you discuss. And i notice thatThanks little one 🙏 CubsterShura too You are both great girls Now tell me. Why does that matter? aren't we all going to the same place? We are all going to the same end point. Regardless of the path we takeYes i can understand if you really really want to share the same path to salvation. Like do the prayers together and what not. But sometimes people reject only because its not allowedThats sad and religion is stealing that love from youNot islam only. I mean all religions
You don't have to worry about me. If I ever find myself falling for a non-Muslim I'll move on and find a Muslim and fall in love so hard it's gonna shatter the ground 😂
@CubsterShura sure You aren't for unity then. You see a dividing line between you and the rest of the world. I think i got it nowIts amazing how well a country can influence little children growing up to grow older to think in such a negative way Its so destructive to this world
So to diminish the division I have to marry a non-Muslim 😂 that nonsense
@CubsterShura no, to dimish the division you should ideally see everyone as your equal which obviously you don’t when you say things like you’ll move on just because he’s non Muslim And for no other reason but because he’s non muslimHow is that different than saying I won’t date you cause you are black or white...
@CubsterShura Concept is the sAmeSee you’re so against the idea Look we’re saying we wanna date muslim girlsBut we dont always wanna convert and neither should you What if im genuinely a better partner for her 🤦🏻♂️ How romantic huh
Not just dateMarry her
Of course there will be non-Muslims wanting that but it's silly to put their wants over God's command 🤷
@CubsterShura its not their wants. Its both their wants lolNow what?
@CubsterShura Id be on your side too but when you make such a big decision based on a book mathematically likely to be false since there is 1000+ religions and the probability of one being true is very tiny If even at thatIt becomes a silly reason, not reality. Hocupocus. Magic. Untestable. Unverifiable Thats where the road block hits for me Its saying god is against two people in love of different faiths that god created himself obviously This poses tons of contradictions and makes no sense
@CubsterShura the question you can answer if you like isWhy isn’t that a road block for you too when you come to that decision of: “That god can’t be against two people in love and living their best lives and being their best selves”True or false?
There is a verse in the Qur'an. Lemme show it to you.Qur'an 2:216- "But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
No one is perfect.We all have bad habit (s). It's about understanding what is more practical.
@CubsterShura 🤦🏻♂️ You give me a verse lolYou didn't think for yourself. You read a verse in a book
Yes. I gave you a verse to make a point.
@CubsterShura Obviously that’s possible, we knew that centuries go So are you making a formal admission that because god doesn’t allow you to marry a non Muslim, because god knows best that every single relationship with a non Muslim is to fail and be bad vs you marrying a Muslim which is going to be perfect because that’s what the book tells you? So every Muslim to Muslim marriage is perfect 🤦🏻♂️Is that how you get your justification and is that your thinking process?
I never said Muslim marriages are ever perfect! At least stop making stupid implications if you wanna talk about it.
@TripleAce stop trying to change people's beliefs.
@CubsterShura You aren’t say much so I’m left to assume... I’d prefer if you tell me... so
@Jamie05rhs I’m not, they were naturally born with no beliefs until someone changed their beliefs Right?
"wouldn't wanna be with a non-Muslim and would advise other Muslims to avoid dating non-Muslims as well"I dont see how any rational person can believe that's a positive thing... like how lol
@TripleAce It is positive, to have a community and have a Family all by one religion.Being able to celebrate Ramadan and Eid without such differences Being able to go to Hajj as a couple and a family. Things like that.
@11110000bbbb you should be able to do that with anyoneNot just a muslim. You should also be open to embracing other cultures and religions. Such as you going to temples and what not. doesn't mean you are muslim you can'tThats whats wrongLove and peace ✌️
@TripleAce Either way it's still creates an issue.Religion should be a big part of life.
@11110000bbbb it only creates an issue because you make an issue
@TripleAce you can't go to hajj if you're not a Muslim so how on Earth will you take your wife to hajj if she's Muslim?
Just get married how you can. Do it their way if so and love each otherHajj isn't going to change anything6.5 billion people dont do hajj. You’ll be fine God (Allah) is in your heart always. No one can take that away
@TripleAce Still if you are in a situation to be able to do so, you need to do it.If you purposefully try to make it more difficult then it's bad.
@ChickMagnetPak no it doesn't,... you are only led to believe that. Your mind is not free encompassing the true beauty of life... you are essentially limiting yourself to a single pool of people, silly Your kids can learn both and choose, or learn whatever they like, no problems. Only problems when you seek to control a situation
@11110000bbbb Its not a transaction like you are taught to believe, look beyond that...love is love its not more difficult or more easy. You fall who you fall for and its silly to have religion dictate who you choose to love or dont its not hardthe only thing is islam makes you make islam your life, thats why its a problem for you in your mind
@ChickMagnetPak that sounds absolutely ridiculousIts a big reason why islam ruined muslims today, why muslim countries are so behind in progressioninstead of focusing on whats important like physics and science to help advance our society. You sit here and tell me this life is nothing and you only care about the after lifeWhat if religion is fake, there is obviously a 50/50 chance its fake or true. And you pissed away your life for the after life that doesn't exist...
@TripleAce If I really extremely loved someone I would try to be of their faith.And even then the religion that would even be close enough is Catholicism.Even then I'd have to extremely like that person.But i just don't see myself doing that because Islam has that old fashion charm.ig you could say lol. Same with Catholicism.I'm not against other religions or being around them, it's just,when you are put in a situation and around people who drink alcohol and celebrate Christmas.It's hard for some to keep Jesus out of it.Or even religion.Like I'm Muslim and I don't mind watching some Christmas movies for example.But those movies are more about gift giving and not the actual story of Jesus.
@ChickMagnetPak that was during the rise of islam yes they had purpose... but then it changed and people became slaves to a religion... progression stopped because other countries loosed up with religion while muslims didn't...to progress you have to go further from religion... its how it is
@TripleAce They are going farther from religion in most cases and it's been terrible.Especially for Saudi, It wasn't good to begin with tho.Only way back it was okay, now it's not.
@TripleAce the Muslims in past who progressed so much were far better Muslims than us.Anyway, relationships do require boundaries and while love is love, life is too short to complicate more than how complicated it already is. Dating a non Muslim means I'd have to take a lot more factors into consideration and I don't think anyone has to go through that hassle. Stress is the last thing you want in relationships.
@ChickMagnetPak you shouldn't call him an ignorant prick.But yes things were better back then.
@11110000bbbbThats how you become progressive. Its the natural Course of our progression. You guys are just young at 1400 yearBut if you think like he said where He has no value for your life in this world but only the afterlife Thats rubbish and thats the biggest joke they played on you
@TripleAce thats Not true, this life does matter.just because things progress doesn't mean they should.
@TripleAce dude if your way of progression is marrying a non-Muslim then I'm better off being stone age thank you
@11110000bbbb im just trying to tell you that countries who progress the most have moved away from religion. Thats just how it worksTo progress your focus shifts to democracy and science and away from religionIts a reason why religion keeps you downLook its very simple to understand. You feel bound to your religion so you can only marry a muslim. Its not that its complicated its because islam makes it complicated to discourage you
CubsterShuraNo thats not how a country progresses but being inclusive is never a bad thing. If you lived in australia and you fell in love with some white that was buddhistIts a shame your religion, this so called god wants to break that upI dont believe thats godBut you can believe that nonsense sure. Up to youThanks 🙏
@TripleAce nor do I need to be inclusive if I have to marry a non-Muslim to be one.
You dont have toIm saying this because it may not matter to you since you live in an area where you will only ever be with a muslim guyBut i have a friend here that fell in love with a girl islam wouldn't allow him to marry nor his parents or family. He rightfully choose the girl and rejected islam. Which i commended him forYou’d only understand what it feels like if that was you
@TripleAce yeah ok like that one thing would convince me that God was stupid to make such ruling, because why would God make rulings that made me feel like this right? How bratty childish thoughts.
@ChickMagnetPak its not really a matter of debate. This question has already been answered. Im just giving you the answerProgession of society to the next level requires moving away from religionIts why western countries provide equal rights to women and males, to homosexuals and have a fair democratic system and legal system. Also they focus on science and medicine. Not religious magic
The only thing problematic here is someone trying to convince me that holding on to my faith is lack of progression. If it is, then fine let it be. If it means that I'm gonna be backwards, imma call myself backwards and proud. Stop calling our religion nonsense.
Thats nothing to be proud of and we both know it. You just have this bias and will defend it no matter whatLets look at it another wayIf the world was all muslim following your thinking. We would still be in the stone agesNo matter if you like it. Sure thats fine. But lets all have a momen of silence for the fact that the rest dont think that way. Even muslims!
@TripleAce imagine being you 😂 Stone age because I'm not open to marrying a non-Muslim. I like my stone age mentality better if that's how you judge people.
@ChickMagnetPak Islamic law is regressive and useless. Christians use to use the bible as law too but they progressed and moved away from silly rulings... look at how Saudi is changing due to progression those same laws are getting thrown out the window...Of course homosexuals existed back then thats why they have it written down in a book --> you do realize about 10% of living creatures are homosexual. Its a perfectly normal thing and they existed in 7th century as wellClearly you haven't spend your time at the facts and reality, your knowledge is weak. Thats exactly what I mean, less time on the Quran more time on reality and science with truth and facts
@CubsterShura no not because you won't marry a non muslim... I mean as a country as a whole. you marrying a non muslim is finewhat Im saying if you love someone and fall in love don't you think its a bit silly to reject them because you are told to by a book that was written in the time of peasants when they had zero knowledge of anything? I mean... not even a little bit? so just follow follow follow but dont think?thats what I mean really but its ok if you dont want to, im just wondering if you ever question it
@TripleAce "don't you think its a bit silly to reject them because you are told to by a book" don't you think it's silly to even question the one who has created us and knows everything about us and think that my judgment is better than His?"that was written in the time of peasants when they had zero knowledge of anything?" God's commands is God's commands regardless of how old they are and who delivered the message and in what era.
Yes I would agree with you and id be open to converting to islam if that was really the casethe only problem is, there is far too many scientific errors, upon assessment based on that, its clear the author of the Quran wasn't all mighty and intelligent but you can ignore those if you like and continue to believe it, thats up to you
@ChickMagnetPak The golden age of Islam was full of slaughter and war. Thats exactly what isis use to say too. Part of Their goal was to go back to the golden ages Today thats finished and never coming back. It changed from a raging fire to an oppressive, regressive position making everyone behave as zombies Times are changing. Homosexual muslims exist, eventually it will go through a reform maybe its still too young yet
@ChickMagnetPak no you’re only muslim because your family is. End of story Of course. Homosexual muslims exist now and eventually islam will be forced to go through a reform. Just like Christianity did. But islam is too young for now
@ChickMagnetPak Yes but we now know homosexuality affects approximately 10% of each speices including humansIts totally normal. Religion isn't to be taken literally. We know that now because we are smarter as a society You can believe it as faith and maybe true to feel good inside sureBut logically and rationally the religion is highly unlikely to be from a divine source, unfortunately its got the same problem every religion has. Too many errors to be from an all mighty So ya take it as a motivational story maybe sure and use parts of it to be a better personBut its more likely than not false
@ChickMagnetPak Which is why over time it changes the more we learn the more it changes
@CubsterShura Your devotion to your faith is inspiring. I wish more Christians thought like you did.
@Jamie05rhs i guess you haven’t met a lot of Muslims hVe you mate lol
Religion is a component of culture.