In principle, the answer is "Yes." However, as likely as not - assuming that we are talking about a devout Muslim from the Middle East, North Africa or some similar region - the cultural gap would be too great.
That may be more a function of where they are from - an American Muslim might be different - than their religion per se. However, as I would not share their faith it probably would not make for a strong or long lasting relationship - particularly as religion tends to get very much to a person's sense of their own identity and place in the world.
The only comparable experience that I have had is that I dated a Japanese woman for a while. She was a great gal and we got along. However, even in that generally favorable context, there were difficulties.
For example, Japanese culture tends to be more polite and discreet than American culture. So if I would ask my girlfriend if she wanted to go out to dinner, she would never say "no" outright. Rather, she would make some alternative suggestion. (Not as in, "How about instead we..." Rather, "I've always enjoyed baking.." Not quite that extreme, but you get the idea.)
To my girlfriend, she was conveying that she did not want go to dinner. To me, I was not getting a straight answer but was getting non sequiturs and, after a while, it was extremely irritating. Moreover, because I was not getting the message, she would then get frustrated.
For all that, we made it work till she decided that she needed to move back to Japan for career reasons. Still, if there was that much difficulty in communicating between two basically Western cultures, it is hard to imagine it being any easier - or working much better over the long run - between two cultures with so many differences as that between American and, say for example, Saudi cultures.
Would I be open to it? Sure. (At least if I did not already have a girlfriend whom I dearly love and three children with her.) However, the odds of dating anyone coming from that culture working out would, I would think and using my experience with a Japanese woman as a comparative baseline, so to speak,, not be great and I would not be optimistic.
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I dated a Muslim girl, and I can say that it was the most greatest experience in my entire life. Everyday was bright and full of love, although that was cut short by a thing called cancer. It was a great 2 year relationship, and I even promised that we'd somehow find a way around the religious gap. As much as I still want to be sad about it, she made me promise to stay the same even after she died. What was the most unfortunate was that we had to date in secret, and when she died, I couldn't attend her funeral. There are some things I can say about it, that you have to make way for change and acceptance when dating a Muslim. You have to accept their customs and not judge them, try to understand their point of view and perhaps add it to your life. Religion shouldn't change how you should look at people, the most important thing is that person's heart. She was beautiful, kind, sweet, understanding, smart, funny, mature and responsible. So let me tell you this, no matter what religion, race, gender or appearance, follow your heart. Love has no boundaries and in this case, love had no religion.
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I’m currently dating a Muslim man. I was baptized as a Christian as a child but now that I’m older I don’t really believe in organized religion. So far he’s been the best boyfriend I’ve ever had. But we do have some conflicts over our religious beliefs. For example, he was a virgin when we met and I wasn’t. He didn’t really like that. Also I haven’t completely given up eating pork. I try not to eat it around him and brush my teeth afterwards but sometimes I slip up. One time I was eating some gummy candies and he didn’t like that because I forgot that gelatin was pork. Sometimes he gets upset when I dress too revealingly. Typically I dress in sweatpants and hoodies but occasionally I dress up and put on cute dresses and he panics and asks me to cover up. I never listen though. Some of his older family members don’t like the fact that he’s dating me because I’m not Muslim and because I’ve had sex before him and we’ve had sex before marriage. I’m pretty sure they think I’m like some sort of temptress whore who’s trying to seduce him away from his faith. I try not to let their opinion bother me. We have a pretty happy relationship. He’s a really good guy and I know he loves me very much. He just takes his religion very seriously. He doesn’t drink or smoke. No tattoos. One time he accidentally ate a pepperoni pizza roll and then he cried. I’m pretty sure the most sinful thing he’s ever done was have premarital sex with me. He’s a very kind and sweet guy. Even though we argue about our beliefs sometimes at the end of the day I still respect the fact that he believes in his religion, and he tries to respect the fact that I don’t. Even when he gets upset about me wearing a short skirt or something like that he typically gets over it very quickly. So yeah I’d date a Muslim guy.
No, I learned the hard way. A Pakistani guy was hitting on me and yeah he was 10x more charming than American guys here. He put me on a pedestal, calling me princess and queen. Even when I was not really putting any effort at all. I was just being myself. I didn’t even flirt either, but he was still being charming. But in my mind I thought “this is too good to be true.” No guy would ever call me Queen or even say I love you after 2 weeks. So I was doing my research trying to find out Pakistan religion and culture. That I came across boards of American and different people married/dating Pakistani or people who were Muslim. Mostly were bad experiences. How Muslim people want other people to respect their culture and religion but don’t respect other religion. Once you marry a Muslim, you’ll be under their thumb changing your whole life and culture, religion for them. Now, I myself am a Christian. I want to raise my future children christian. So I was still giving this Pakistan guy a chance till I found out he was a liar and a cheater. Swooning other women. I confronted him and moved on. But during those times of being with him. He would get upset and tell me to not wear makeup, shorts, never say sorry and thank you. Sure Muslim people are charming and smart. But they’re really strict with their backgrounds, religion, and lifestyle.
I would if they are open minded and kind - I've met incredible muslims - not all are bad
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As an atheist, I'd prefer to not date any believers. I'm kind of open to dating people who are technically believers but not religious or serious about it. Being muslim is usually way more involved from my experience with Muslim friends. They have a lot of rules on interactions between men and women and many of my Muslim friends aren't even allowed to date the way we usually date in mainstream Western cultures. Sex before marriage is a no no for many of them. It just seems like "Muslim, but not serious about it and rarely practice" isn't really a common thing for Muslims.
I also have attitude about stories I hear of Muslim men sleeping around and then insisting on the "pure" Muslim virgin. That makes me angry at the double standards and I would feel bad for the Muslim girls.
However, I've been in a neighborhood with a large Arab and Muslim community this past year and I have to say - there are a lot of fine ass Arab and Middle Eastern men. Tempting.
If I were a Christian like I used to be (or any kind of believer), I would date a more progressive Muslim. Some of my friends come from those families, where values are put in context, feminist values are celebrated, and the hijab and womens clothing is a choice. Both are abrahamic religions, Islam is interesting and so many people are ignorant about it. If my partner respected my faith and took an approach that was more "these are both pathways to god and its your choice" then that would be fine.
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I have dated some. Not all of them are bad. In fact, many are nicer than Christian men. My recent partner is a Christian and it took me a "decade" to find him. There are asshole Muslim men but from my experiences, Christian men can be one too. I have dated Arab men from these two religions and the Muslim one treated me better. I was almost married to him but I can't leave my religion so we had to split.
People need to stop stereotyping them as abusive, controlling and terrorists. You don't know them well and the western media is putting them in a bad light.
For me most definitely a NO. I despise religion, and Islam is about the worst of them for a multitude of reasons. Muslims are usually the most dedicated to theirs. I despise most of their cultural conventions, as most of them are founded on their religion, and I wouldn't want them present anywhere in my life. Even the unlikely case of a girl being acclimated to western society and wouldn't give a shit about muslim culture, if her family and associates do, I'd most likely have a problem with those and vice versa, and I'd try to avoid that. Also, I've rarely found any muslim girl to be attractive to me, because most all of their corresponding ethnic groups commonly have distinct facial features that turn me off, e. g. a crooked or knobbly nose, bloated cheeks, cross-eye-look etz.
I nearly did when i was younger, he was a very westernised Muslim and got more excited about Christmas and Easter then i ever did. He was very charming and handsome and i dont think he was a strict Muslim, he had a Muslim name but always preferred to be called Moe and not by his real name. He was probably more British than me looking back at how he acted.
But whenever we hung out and other Muslims or British people saw they were very quick to judge or warn us from each other. I think we could have made a good couple but im very happy with the man im with now.
If he was very strict and forced his religion on me, i would definitely not date them, especially if the family didn't approve.
Interesting question and i did saw the comments they are different each one have their views which i do respect ✊, still as for some of the comments killing and all the bad things is prohibited in islam still you will need to research that to understand it , second yes there are some strict people who uses islam for their personal interests to justify what they do , third we respect women and hijab is mandatory but not by force by choice so a non hijab lady is also a good person because there is a lot of things that classify women as a good person beside the hijab , peace everybody and god bless you all , if you got a question feel free to ask and i will try to answer it 👌👌
No, because I think that might confuse our kids. Like, are we going to raise them as christians or muslims? Most definitely muslims as the father is muslim, right. And as I know nothing about the religion, I won’t be able to raise a kid as muslim and as I know that muslim people are religious, my man won’t be happy about that and we’ll eventually start having problems. Also that would mean I’ll need to convert as well and I just love Christmas too much. But you never know, never say never. If he’s an open person and he isn’t religious we can make it work if there’s love.
If the muslim woman I like is religious and practising, then it would automatically never work as I am not religious at all. If she is open-minded, does not require me to become muslim (I would never agree anyway), keeps her belief to herself but does not mind talking about it freely, does not wear a hijab/niqab/burka etc., and promises not to convert our future children without giving them the chance to decide what they want, then I do not see any problem being with her or having a family together.
To make things simpler: I do not want to date any religious person.
To be fair, I could widen it out to any religion - It may depend how religious they are - If the end game is settling down and having children, where/how do we live, how do we raise the children? As I say I feel the same about any religion or belief, I am open to any faith/belief as long as it doesn't impinge on me - What I mean is that to be with this girl if I feel I have to compromise or change I might be reluctant unless she is doing a lot of give and take on her part to take on some of my beliefs. To answer your question yes but there would be some discussion.
Because I value being thought of as a person and not a thing. Because I don't want to be forced to obey anyone, rather I would prefer to do things for my man because I love and respect him. Because their value system is archaic and oppressive. Because any man that hates the country I live in so much, shouldn't live here at all. Because any religion that endorses marriage or sex with a 9 year old has no place on this planet anymore. Because their hygiene is atrocious. Because when I go to the mall in shorts and a shirt and they follow me in to a store and grab my breasts because where they come from that's allowed, IS NOT OK. Because I should have the right to say NO. Because being beaten to death simply because he had a DREAM that I was cheating on him, then ate my brain and said it "tasted nice" should not even be a consideration, never mind legal.
But I hope you aren't convinced that they are practicing Muslims.
Islam doesn't allow you to touch anyone of the opposite gender. So touching a stranger woman's breasts is a big no-no. The Hadith mentions that a man would rather touch hot burning coal than a stranger woman.
Yes, on condition that any kids were allowed to make their own minds up what they believe, raised neutrally. My fathers father was an atheist, and my fathers mother was an orthodox jew (obviously not that orthodox), and my neutrally raised my father and aunty turned out ok.
The way i see it, when you're partners with someone, other than working together for mutual benefit and the benefit of your family/kids, at the end of the day that aside you still need to have your own separate lives and beliefs. The happiest most functional relationships are those with enough respect to tolerate each others differences as much as possible. Anytime there's an irreconcilable difference, your options are to either break up, or one of you step down.
Myself, the only irreconcilable difference that i could not tolerant from marrying a Muslim woman is circumcising my son (s), or daughter (s) for that matter. If she couldn't step down on that, i couldn't be with her in good conscience.
No I wouldn't. If we are talking about a devout, adhering Muslim woman it would never work. I like being able to go out to restaurants and have some drinks with my baby, or on vacation. Alcohol is prohibited in Islam. For the most part I don't eat pork, but everything else would be a cultural and lifestyle conflict. If I go to the beach, I want my sweetheart to get into the water with me, wearing a one piece or a bikini. For devout Muslims, women can not show that much skin even in a one piece. It's one thing for others to think, " Sure I would date a Muslim, I'm open minded." Have you really thought about spending a lifetime with this person? I don't care if my girl is Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, or an Atheist, as those lifestyles are much more compatible with my own. Islam just isn't for me or my future household.
No, for three connected reasons. 1. I cannot accept Islam. 2. I think it is always unwise to be in a relationship with someone who does not agree on world-view. 3. I know how serious it would be for her to leave her religion and would never ask her to do that for me.
As a result I do not see a scenario in which the relationship could really work and thus would not date her.
Never. Being thrown acid at isn't something I would like to experience. Being beaten, treated like an object and being stoned to death also aren't on my "to do" list. I actually would like a man who respects women and doesn't view them as inferior beings who ought to serve men. Things that happen in muslim countries are horrible.
I voted no, but it's not a hard no. I met muslims in the past, that were very open about religion and that did not really practice it. I am a secular humanist and have big issues with dating religious people in general, if they base their decision making on beliefs, or if they don't accept facts as such when they contradict their beliefs. As my beliefs are not only not an important part of my regular life, but are explicitly not a part of it, I would not date anyone for whom this is different and thus have issues with a partner who practices their religion and whos day to day life is influenced by their religion. However, I am open to date people that believe in a religion, but that dont base their decision making on it. I have no issues with someone who holds on to their beliefs, to a certain degree. And I don't make a difference for any religion. It does not matter wether they are christian or jewish or hindu or muslim or anything.
Based on the thinking of many muslims... like what @CubsterShura said
"wouldn't wanna be with a non-Muslim and would advise other Muslims to avoid dating non-Muslims as well"
I think that type of negativity is very destructive to our society as a whole... I Would but id avoid such negative ideologies from Muslim women... they are many open minded ones though yes
@11110000bbbb its ok if its against islam Thats the point. Progess doesn’t come from religion it comes from unity and progessive counties Its a reason why muslim countries are behind in every way!
@11110000bbbb you personally should not date a non muslim and that's completely fine, but don't try to dictate others' lives based on your understanding and faith.
@cinderelli you're right but also we can tell what's right and what's wrong based on what rulings actually exist in Islam. And in Islam, it is NOT legal to marry a non-Muslim, period.
@CubsterShura "And in Islam, it is NOT legal to marry a non-Muslim"
correct, and your job as a human is to question that not just obey anything written in a book with zero proof of it actually being real thats part of progression. But there's no point in this topic, you believe what you believe because that's all you've known since birth, if you were born in a buddhist family you simply wouldn't think this way. its all based on the fact you are born in a muslim family
@cinderelli ya lol... you see let me explain I'm not against following religion or islam for that matter... If it helps you become a better person and brings happiness in your life, sure why not What I am against is foolish lies, if someone can't think for themselves thats a huge problem - how can you think its a word of god with such fundamental errors that would make any scientist turn his head 720 degrees
I would respect someone more if they just said, yes its possible its not true but I just follow it because I believe in the faith and it brings joy to my life. not when someone says, its the absolute truth, its god, its 100%, every other religion is false but this one... I believe everything it says word for word, we should have sharia law yadaaa yadaaa yadaaa
I do plan too <3 I got too busy with studies and other stuff. yeah I get your point, in my opinion if you're a believer and you have a bond with God then the first thing you do is to not judge other's faith and question it when they do something differently. Because you must believe they're God's creation as well and deserve the same respect as you do. I'm not only talking about Islam but Christianity and Judaism as well because these three stem from the same foundation. Also, we're all selective believers, we only question and preach when others are doing something, we'd happily revisit these beliefs if we fall into a similar situation. All sinners question other sinners for sinning differently.
Seriously, no use of carrying this discussion further. I don't even know why I bothered talking to a man who thinks having strong faith in God equals not having ability to think on my own. Sorry but I don't have weak faith to question stuff and I understand that the ruling of not marrying a non-Muslim is meant for MY own good at the end of the day. Peace ✌️
@CubsterShura Respectfully i dont think it means that in all cases no. But if you just blindly follow without thinking and seeing the other side. Then yes
Id say in your case you haven't probably experienced the other side of the world yet. So this is all you know
You might agree with me more in the future say in 10 years But for now its fine. If you can’t see even a tiny fraction of what im saying makes sense Then its pointless cause you simply can’t see it right now
I never disagreed with your view 100%. But it seems like you always disagree with any view thats opposes islam 100%
Dude you're the one causing the problem. You're the one who brought up all this stuff in the first place because I said I won't marry a non-Muslim. In fact the attitude you have towards Islam and belief in the first place is why I wouldn't recommend a Muslim to even marry a non-Muslim. Can't imagine staying under the same roof with someone who is so disrespectful towards my religion. I once tried dating a Christian guy, and he was also very disrespectful towards Islam and that kinda made me realize why it's not good for me.
Not dating non-Muslims means I got a few billion less men to choose from, and it's ok. I'm only marrying one man, lol.
@CubsterShura I only tagged you to discuss it with you, im not saying anything mean to you though Yes i admit I do have negative things to say about islam. But not about you. I understand it’s important to you of course
Its important for the world to mix I say this cause i once met an amazing muslim girl that i wanted to be with. But her faith is what kept us apart
I knew a friend that fell in love with a white blonde girl and his family rejected her. Again because of faith. Thats extremely regressive as a society So he did the right thing. He rejected that part of islam and stayed with her. Which is the right thing to do
Im only saying. If you end up falling in love with someone thats not muslim. Dont let the faith take away your love for him. Im not saying go out look for a non muslim lol just if it happens try to give it a chance How is that so bad? Thats what i mean by dont be robots. God would never deny two humans that are in love. Regardless of their faith
You don't have to worry about me. If I ever find myself falling for a non-Muslim I'll move on and find a Muslim and fall in love so hard it's gonna shatter the ground 😂
@CubsterShura sure You aren't for unity then. You see a dividing line between you and the rest of the world. I think i got it now Its amazing how well a country can influence little children growing up to grow older to think in such a negative way
@CubsterShura no, to dimish the division you should ideally see everyone as your equal which obviously you don’t when you say things like you’ll move on just because he’s non Muslim And for no other reason but because he’s non muslim How is that different than saying I won’t date you cause you are black or white...
@CubsterShura Concept is the sAme See you’re so against the idea Look we’re saying we wanna date muslim girls But we dont always wanna convert and neither should you What if im genuinely a better partner for her 🤦🏻♂️
@CubsterShura Id be on your side too but when you make such a big decision based on a book mathematically likely to be false since there is 1000+ religions and the probability of one being true is very tiny
If even at that It becomes a silly reason, not reality. Hocupocus. Magic. Untestable. Unverifiable
Thats where the road block hits for me Its saying god is against two people in love of different faiths that god created himself obviously
This poses tons of contradictions and makes no sense
There is a verse in the Qur'an. Lemme show it to you. Qur'an 2:216- "But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
@CubsterShura Obviously that’s possible, we knew that centuries go So are you making a formal admission that because god doesn’t allow you to marry a non Muslim, because god knows best that every single relationship with a non Muslim is to fail and be bad vs you marrying a Muslim which is going to be perfect because that’s what the book tells you? So every Muslim to Muslim marriage is perfect 🤦🏻♂️
Is that how you get your justification and is that your thinking process?
I'm Muslim and wouldn't wanna be with a non-Muslim and would advise other Muslims to avoid dating non-Muslims as well. My religion doesn't allow it in the first place, with the exception of only Muslim men being able to marry Jewish and Christian women, but differences in faith never work in a relationship.
For people who are just Muslim by name and not practice, it's not a big deal at all.
@TripleAce It is positive, to have a community and have a Family all by one religion. Being able to celebrate Ramadan and Eid without such differences Being able to go to Hajj as a couple and a family. Things like that.
@11110000bbbb you should be able to do that with anyone Not just a muslim. You should also be open to embracing other cultures and religions. Such as you going to temples and what not. doesn't mean you are muslim you can't
Just get married how you can. Do it their way if so and love each other Hajj isn't going to change anything 6.5 billion people dont do hajj. You’ll be fine
God (Allah) is in your heart always. No one can take that away
@ChickMagnetPak no it doesn't,... you are only led to believe that. Your mind is not free encompassing the true beauty of life... you are essentially limiting yourself to a single pool of people, silly
Your kids can learn both and choose, or learn whatever they like, no problems. Only problems when you seek to control a situation
@11110000bbbb Its not a transaction like you are taught to believe, look beyond that... love is love its not more difficult or more easy. You fall who you fall for and its silly to have religion dictate who you choose to love or dont its not hard the only thing is islam makes you make islam your life, thats why its a problem for you in your mind
@ChickMagnetPak that sounds absolutely ridiculous Its a big reason why islam ruined muslims today, why muslim countries are so behind in progression
instead of focusing on whats important like physics and science to help advance our society. You sit here and tell me this life is nothing and you only care about the after life
What if religion is fake, there is obviously a 50/50 chance its fake or true. And you pissed away your life for the after life that doesn't exist...
@TripleAce If I really extremely loved someone I would try to be of their faith. And even then the religion that would even be close enough is Catholicism. Even then I'd have to extremely like that person. But i just don't see myself doing that because Islam has that old fashion charm. ig you could say lol. Same with Catholicism.
I'm not against other religions or being around them, it's just, when you are put in a situation and around people who drink alcohol and celebrate Christmas. It's hard for some to keep Jesus out of it. Or even religion.
Like I'm Muslim and I don't mind watching some Christmas movies for example. But those movies are more about gift giving and not the actual story of Jesus.
@ChickMagnetPak that was during the rise of islam yes they had purpose... but then it changed and people became slaves to a religion... progression stopped because other countries loosed up with religion while muslims didn't...
to progress you have to go further from religion... its how it is
@TripleAce They are going farther from religion in most cases and it's been terrible. Especially for Saudi, It wasn't good to begin with tho. Only way back it was okay, now it's not.
@TripleAce the Muslims in past who progressed so much were far better Muslims than us.
Anyway, relationships do require boundaries and while love is love, life is too short to complicate more than how complicated it already is. Dating a non Muslim means I'd have to take a lot more factors into consideration and I don't think anyone has to go through that hassle. Stress is the last thing you want in relationships.
Thats how you become progressive. Its the natural Course of our progression. You guys are just young at 1400 year
But if you think like he said where He has no value for your life in this world but only the afterlife Thats rubbish and thats the biggest joke they played on you
@11110000bbbb im just trying to tell you that countries who progress the most have moved away from religion. Thats just how it works To progress your focus shifts to democracy and science and away from religion Its a reason why religion keeps you down
Look its very simple to understand. You feel bound to your religion so you can only marry a muslim. Its not that its complicated its because islam makes it complicated to discourage you
CubsterShura No thats not how a country progresses but being inclusive is never a bad thing. If you lived in australia and you fell in love with some white that was buddhist
Its a shame your religion, this so called god wants to break that up I dont believe thats god
But you can believe that nonsense sure. Up to you Thanks 🙏
You dont have to Im saying this because it may not matter to you since you live in an area where you will only ever be with a muslim guy But i have a friend here that fell in love with a girl islam wouldn't allow him to marry nor his parents or family. He rightfully choose the girl and rejected islam. Which i commended him for
You’d only understand what it feels like if that was you
@TripleAce yeah ok like that one thing would convince me that God was stupid to make such ruling, because why would God make rulings that made me feel like this right? How bratty childish thoughts.
@ChickMagnetPak its not really a matter of debate. This question has already been answered. Im just giving you the answer Progession of society to the next level requires moving away from religion
Its why western countries provide equal rights to women and males, to homosexuals and have a fair democratic system and legal system. Also they focus on science and medicine. Not religious magic
The only thing problematic here is someone trying to convince me that holding on to my faith is lack of progression. If it is, then fine let it be. If it means that I'm gonna be backwards, imma call myself backwards and proud. Stop calling our religion nonsense.
@TripleAce imagine being you 😂 Stone age because I'm not open to marrying a non-Muslim. I like my stone age mentality better if that's how you judge people.
@ChickMagnetPak Islamic law is regressive and useless. Christians use to use the bible as law too but they progressed and moved away from silly rulings... look at how Saudi is changing due to progression those same laws are getting thrown out the window...
Of course homosexuals existed back then thats why they have it written down in a book --> you do realize about 10% of living creatures are homosexual. Its a perfectly normal thing and they existed in 7th century as well
Clearly you haven't spend your time at the facts and reality, your knowledge is weak. Thats exactly what I mean, less time on the Quran more time on reality and science with truth and facts
@CubsterShura no not because you won't marry a non muslim... I mean as a country as a whole. you marrying a non muslim is fine what Im saying if you love someone and fall in love don't you think its a bit silly to reject them because you are told to by a book that was written in the time of peasants when they had zero knowledge of anything? I mean... not even a little bit? so just follow follow follow but dont think? thats what I mean really
but its ok if you dont want to, im just wondering if you ever question it
@TripleAce "don't you think its a bit silly to reject them because you are told to by a book" don't you think it's silly to even question the one who has created us and knows everything about us and think that my judgment is better than His? "that was written in the time of peasants when they had zero knowledge of anything?" God's commands is God's commands regardless of how old they are and who delivered the message and in what era.
Yes I would agree with you and id be open to converting to islam if that was really the case the only problem is, there is far too many scientific errors, upon assessment based on that, its clear the author of the Quran wasn't all mighty and intelligent
but you can ignore those if you like and continue to believe it, thats up to you
@ChickMagnetPak The golden age of Islam was full of slaughter and war. Thats exactly what isis use to say too. Part of Their goal was to go back to the golden ages
Today thats finished and never coming back. It changed from a raging fire to an oppressive, regressive position making everyone behave as zombies
Times are changing. Homosexual muslims exist, eventually it will go through a reform maybe its still too young yet
@ChickMagnetPak no you’re only muslim because your family is. End of story
Of course. Homosexual muslims exist now and eventually islam will be forced to go through a reform. Just like Christianity did. But islam is too young for now
@ChickMagnetPak Yes but we now know homosexuality affects approximately 10% of each speices including humans Its totally normal. Religion isn't to be taken literally. We know that now because we are smarter as a society
You can believe it as faith and maybe true to feel good inside sure But logically and rationally the religion is highly unlikely to be from a divine source, unfortunately its got the same problem every religion has. Too many errors to be from an all mighty
So ya take it as a motivational story maybe sure and use parts of it to be a better person But its more likely than not false
Probably not, cause I think Jesus is the son God, He's the messiah, the one that's gonna come and they just like... He's a prophet that's and it and I'm just like...
I am pretty religious myself and I don't want to change my religion if we get married. But I have a lot of friends that are Muslims, but I guess if the guy will respect my culture and religion and If I like him very much I might consider to change my opinion. Who knows love is pretty unpredictable
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