People that go to church: do you pay your tithes?

[kyleelyn199723]

Yes

No

[PositiveNote]

Man, wrong interpretation there...

I don't "pay" my tithes... I "offer" my tithes because there is no 10% as many think. It is giving back to the Lord knowing that He will replace it greatly!


"My cup runneth over" is a quotation from the Hebrew Bible (Psalms:23:5) and means "I have more than enough for my needs."

Luke 6:38 says, "Give, and it will be given to you: good measure, pressed down, shaken together, and running over will be put into your bosom. For with the same measure that you use, it will be measured back to you.”

Leviticus 27:30 says, “A tithe of everything from the land, whether grain from the soil or fruit from the trees, belongs to the Lord: it is holy to the Lord.” These gifts were a reminder that everything belonged to God and a portion was given back to God to thank him for what they had received.

Deuteronomy 14:23 says, “The purpose of tithing is to teach you always to put God first in your lives.” God doesn't need your money, but he wants what it represents — your heart. He wants you to trust him.

[kyleelyn199723]

Nope, some churches MAKE you pay. My family member found out yesterday after going a couple of months. They insinuated they pay 10% of their gross income

[PositiveNote]

I know. Those churches wonder why they aren't growing. It's because they go by some kind of parenthetical antithesis to the Bible. Therefore, they are not a "church" but a "organization." If you use the word "church" you are supposed to be guided by the Christian Bible. Yet they seem to think that only the old testament applies and not the New Testament. Oh yeah they read from it, but they don't follow what it says. They make up their own reasons and stories. This is why Christianity has a bad name — is because of people who don't know what it is and try to tell everybody they know.

[ChrisMaster69]

We have this law in the UK called Chancel Repair Liability.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chancel_repair_liability

Basically if you buy a house and it has a church pre 1536 or so, then home owners are liable for its repair.

extract from the wiki above.


Medieval-built church where this liability applied in Aston Cantlow. Its historic rectorship was acquired by a monastery, abbey or college of Oxford or Cambridge leaving a discharged vicarage

In the vast majority of ecclesiastical parishes (into which all of England and Wales is split) chancel repair liability is not applicable. However, it was brought into use for the first time in a few years in 2003 in a particularly lightly populated glebe. Andrew and Gail Wallbank received a demand for almost £100,000 to fund repairs of their parish's medieval church at Aston Cantlow. After a protracted legal battle, as they sought to challenge this ruling, the Law Lords found in favour of the parochial church council, leaving the Wallbanks with a £350,000 bill including legal costs.

it should at some point get withdrawn from law, however it’s still there.

[SaoirseS]

I don't go to church very often, and I won't tithe. Rarely do I give anything to the church itself, but I do give to the community.

[kyleelyn199723]

Yeah I prefer doing this also. I don't know why people think giving money to the church means donating. You are just finding their pockets to make up for their losses of having an actual well paying job

[SaoirseS]

I'm the kind who likes to see all of whatever I donate go to whatever cause I'm supporting rather than throw it into some large pot to spend at someone else's discretion :-)

[Dinklex3]

I only go with my mom when i visit home.
I don't, but she does.

[NYlatefun]

Don't you hate when people respond to these questions with a: I don't go to church 🤦‍♂️
Which by the way, it's true, I don't go to church, but I won't say it lol

[kyleelyn199723]

Lol I don’t go to church either. I am just curious after I learned something today and what churches do to their members regarding money

[NYlatefun]

When I used to go I didn't, unless I was guilt tripped by the people surrounding me lol

[kyleelyn199723]

Yeah one of my family members was guilt tripped by his pastor today, but not only did they guilt trip him , they strung him along and didn’t mention a tithe until 3 months after he joined

[NYlatefun]

That's hilarious

[kyleelyn199723]

You want to know what the percentage was? 10% of your gross income. I am just curious to if people genuinely actually pay this and why they fall for it.

[NYlatefun]

That's huge, I'm sorry but I really don't believe in organized religion, so I'd never give my money to a church. And don't get me wrong, there's a lot of good people in those institutions, but the leaders are scum.

[kyleelyn199723]

@NYlatefun I don’t believe in organized religion. I feel like they prayed upon my family member because he is troubled. It’s like another way of praying upon the weak for money

[NYlatefun]

Easy preys!

[Honestguyopen]

Tithing is not a requirement. In harmony with the scriptures, you receive free, give free.

[kyleelyn199723]

Not according to some churches I have learned today.

[Honestguyopen]

Yes true. But is the church the authority or is it God's word the Bible? The answer to that question is the difference between true and false religion.

[kyleelyn199723]

I personally think it’s the churches authority especially when they lure you into paying. The person I know basically got strung along for a couple months before attaching it. It sucks because within 2-3 months he probably opened up about himself to the church personally

[Honestguyopen]

I meant who has the authority to say that we should or should not be paying. So basically God is generous and only asks us to believe in him and act on our faith in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus.
Recall that Jesus overturned the tables of the greedy merchants in the temple. He said they had made his father's house a cave of robbers.

[kyleelyn199723]

I think there’s a problem when they are looking at peoples tax returns and basing what you should give off of that, instead of basing it off of what you would like to give or what you have. I literally know someone that believe in church until he saw his pastor pull up in a new Ferrari. That is an actual true story too.

[kyleelyn199723]

Believed in church*

[Honestguyopen]

Yes it is a problem. In our organization, we are reminded from time to time how the first century Christian donated. They set something aside as a sort of expense. It was completely voluntary and based off of what each one desired to truly give from the heart. The widow who dropped in the 2 small coins had greater value in God's eyes because it was all she had. So it isn't about amount with God. He owns all the gold in the mountains. So why would he not provide for those who are truly his servants?

Another passage says it is a mistake to think that we can make great gain off of our brothers and sisters in christ. You are clearly seeing this being ignored by many church leaders. It's just a small piece of the whole truth, but kudos to you on recognizing it.

[BCRanger10]

Yes, unless my budget doesn't allow. That's not usually a problem though.

[Anonymous]

Tithing isn’t required at a lot of churches since a lot of people really are struggling. Some churches do require tithing, which is very awkward since they require your tax returns, but they are in the vast minority.

[kyleelyn199723]

Yeah I had no clue some required it until my family got hit with that today. And they take a lot. It was 10% of your gross income

[Opinion Owner]

Oh yeah. I have no interest in going to a church like that. Can I ask what denomination it is? I know there are strict Baptists that do this but I’m curious if there are others.

[kyleelyn199723]

I’m pretty sure it was a Catholic Church , but I am entirely unsure regarding any info because this family member pretty much really never went into depth about the church itself. The whole idea pretty much sketched me out from the start just because I don’t believe in church

[Opinion Owner]

Ohhh. That’s possible. I didn’t even think about the Catholic Church requiring tithes.

[dubcuda]

Tithes was done away with and only went to the levitical priest, and it was never money only crops and livestock. Reading is fundamental, but christian never read their bibles.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

No. Tithing is a money scam and Tithing isn't money in the Bible.

[HeartFullOfGlue]

How do you pronounce that? I keep thinking its tit-hes or tith-es

[ChrisMaster69]

Look at as Tie Th

The Th as in thought

[HeartFullOfGlue]

@ChrisMaster69 Oh ok that makes sense, thank you

[KatherineJ]

We give as much as we can.

[Flower7]

Not the full 10 percent, no.

[Tstrbrainer]

Tithes?

[kyleelyn199723]

Giving or what they call “donating” money to the church. If you don’t know what it is, you probably don’t do it lol

[Tstrbrainer]

Or, I speak a different language.

But yeah, I'm not an entirely generous person, especially when I pay taxes already

[Cubus]

Doesn't require. You can but you don't have to.

[strateguy632]

nope.

[Bklynbadboy12]

Yes I do

[MrTaboo]

It's not a payment.

[kyleelyn199723]

Actually it is.

[MrTaboo]

No. It's not. And if your church says it is. Change churches. God desires us to give from the heart, not be forced.

[kyleelyn199723]

It is a payment. My family member questioned it and said “what if we don’t have the money” and they said “if you have money to get here, then you have money to pay”

[MrTaboo]

Yeah, wrong church.

[PositiveNote]

No joke. It's called a scam if it were in the mail. The church probably either borders on or actually espouses a pseudotheology. Run away! Run away! (to quote Monte Python and the Holy Grail.)

[MrTaboo]

No one is making you give to the church. It's not a payment. And if they are find a different church

[kyleelyn199723]

@MrTaboo the point is , is no church should be scamming people if they are true to what they say they do.

[MrTaboo]

Correct. Like mone doesn't