My answer would be a toss-up between "A" and "B" with a little leaning toward "B".
The Bible can provide a moral compass to a nation. So can many other sacred writings of different faiths.
When it comes to specifics, I think it best to look at any Biblical Laws through the lens of more current thinking. Else we might have some interesting legal questions.
A few examples:
How much in the Currency of the Land is a fair price to sell my daughter? (Exodus 21:7).
My neighbor works on the Sabbath. (an ER nurse). According to Exodus 35:2 the penalty is being put to death. Am I obligated to kill a friendly neighbor, or will the courts assign an executioner?
Most of the men I know cut their hair and trim their beards. This is forbidden (Leviticus 19:27). In what manner shall they be put to death?
Leviticus 11: 6-8 informs me that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean. May I wear cloth or goatskin gloves and still play football, or will I be unclean, and if I'm unclean, how long is my purification and what are the rituals there-of?
The list goes on and on. Can't join a church congregation if I'm vision impaired, Can't eat lobster. Can't eat milk and meat together, so there goes the cheeseburger I like. Can't wear cotton and wool in the same garment, can't plant peas and corn in the same garden. The list can and does go on. (I have citations, if anyone is really interested)
The bottom line of me taking the idea from the sublime to the ridiculous is that many of the laws the people of the Bible were supposed to follow no longer make sense given advances in science, society, and civilization.
Moral compass: Yes. Pass Biblical laws: No. Not without a whole lot of thought and deliberation.
NONE. Christianity is not the only religion that exists in the United States. This basically means that the US have to be divided into different areas if we wanted to rule by religion, and I'm sure many people would not like that. Thus, the solution that will make everyone happy is a sweet compromise.
Now don't get me wrong, I'm religious and I believe more people should be religious, but I also know that there are people that are of other religions, and it wouldn't be fair to them if they were ruled through Christianity. The US is part of the new world where everyone (except for the indigenous people) is an immigrant, so it wouldn't make sense to go by the majority rule. However, if a European country where the majority of inhabitants are indigenous decided that they wanted to enact religious ruling, then that's their right to do so. Similarly, in the majority Muslim countries where most of the people are native to their homeland, then it's their right to have their own constitution that allows them to use religion for legislation. However, in Canada, Australia, the US and New Zealand, that shouldn't be the case, or it should be up to the natives.
Not being American, maybe I shouldn't comment, but the simple truth is that over there you have the separation of powers and the separation of church and state. You've got the First Amendment, which states:
So my answer is zero, none of it, and I say this as someone that most people here would consider to be extremely conservative in my views regarding most issues. Science and religion don't mix, but politics and religion even less so.
Are you not aware that "congress" refers exclusively to our Federal legislator?
That when this was written and for 100+ years there after States had countless laws which established or otherwise favored particular religions or religious believes.
That in the ratification and proposing of this amendment its explicit propose was in fact to simply keep our Federal Government out of the business. This was in no small part because different states were denominations by different religious denominations, and did not want to risk fighting each other over the issue.
@snsl153 Again you seem to be confusing Federal and State Governments. These are completely different systems with different proposes, different Constitutions, mostly different founders, and histories.
You are correct in that the federal union was not in itself a christian "nation" having no religious denomination at all. Being forbidden such by the 1st Amendment.
Again that is a completely different issues than the States having established religions.
Its also worth noting that Not all of the founders and certainly not all of the people agreed it was appropriate to describe the federal union as a single "nation" indeed that definition even today struggles to fit.
PS: Although your assessment of the Federal founding fathers religious believes is easily shown as incorrect, that fact however is irrelevant to the topic.
When prayer was taken out of schools is when everything went to pot. We would not be having all these shootings or half the other shit that comes down if it hadn't of been deleted from our schools. But that's just my opinion. Now, instead of God they teach kids about being gay.
Other counters that don’t have mass s shootings don’t have prayer in schools.
Mass shootings went up when the assault weapons ban expired
There were guns back then and even easier to get. You could buy them by mail and the US military sold them for cheap in school marksmen programs. But no shootings happened like today, and over such trivial reasons such as no ketchup with their fries. If people had a beef they met under the school bleachers and settled it, man to man.
Why doesn't all the praying that gun rights activists, christians and politicians do after mass shootings prevent the next shootings? Does god not hear their prayers? Does got not listen to any prayers? Or does god simply want to see dead children? Does god want to see children murdered because their teachers don't force the kids to pray?
God gave everyone free will, including the right to kill someone. God only answers the prayers of His children so most people can pray all they want but he won't hear, except one.
So none of the kids that were killed were His Children? Or did they and their parents not pray enough?
Children are His up to the age of accountability and really understanding right from wrong.
Its a sound observation, the sad part is the lawless Federal politicians in black robes imposed this by edict upon us via "incorporation" of the very 1st amendment that was designed to do precisely the opposite in guaranteeing the States the freedom to make their own laws which in many ways reflected or encouraged particular religious believes.
A fact that would have been quite obvious to anyone who actually read the letter which the same politicians in black robes dishonestly sited in their ruling with the phrase "Separation of Church and State".
Then President Thomas Jefferson was actually explaing why he could not intervene against the religious laws of Connecticut.
I guess it just goes to show you how incredibility dishonest our unaccountable federal politicians in black robes are to find excuse to force their policy preferences on the rest of us.
That the other federal politicians hide behind them in enforcing theses edicts rather than checking and balancing the abuses of said courts as Jefferson and Jackson did is the real problem.
@daniela1982 you love a god that murders children. How damaged are you?
And exactly how does God murder children? Isn't it more like humans are killing children in wars and with abortion? These days even parents are killing their children. Psalms 127:3 Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward. Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one's youth. Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate. Does that sound like God wants children to die? Or Matthew 18:14, 14 "So it is not the will of my[a] Father who is in heaven that one of these little ones should perish." In other words, it is not God but men who have free will to kill that do these things.
God is all powerful and in control. He has the power to stop anything. But instead he watches helplessly (with so much sadness) as the broken and flawed human creations that he made broken murder the innocent children he made because he gave us the gift of free will. But one day. if we are good enough, after our children are murdered and burning in hell for not being good enough, we get to spend eternity with the man who watched helpless with the man who let our children be murdered and put them and our other non-praying loveones in hell.
Don't fret. You won't be spending eternity with God so you have nothing to worry about.
I am so thankful for that.
Just remember that your very words is what will convict you on Judgement Day, no matter what you think of God. And I'm thinking you don't know squat about him except for taking random verses out of the Bible and then, by not knowing the context of that verse, come up with your own interpretation. That is what most people do. Maybe you should get a Bible commentary that explains what things mean in the Bible when it says this or that.
You can't teach someone to be gay. Also the most athiest countries are some of the most safe and social developed with high happiness indexes.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Fuck off with these "happiness" indexes. Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty!
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No bible = new world order.
With bible = new world order.
Why? Because they even cotrol the bible. Whatever it is, CERN'S quantum effect, I don't know.
Heard of the Mandela effect? It made literally thousands of changes to the bibles sitting in our homes. Doesn't matter how old they are.
Find the oldest King James bible (which survey said is by far the most popular version) and it will have modern words, nonsense verses, grammar errors, emojis, LGBT shit, and words like "hallelujah" is non existent in the kjv bible.
Here you can find about a hundred changes,
https://www.quora.com/What-Biblical-changes-are-said-to-be-due-to-the-Mandela-Effect
But there are waayyy more. Such as "dumb ass" or "addicted to ministry" and literally, thousands of changes that are obvious ASF.
I had made my own video for proof, the same bible filmed twice has different words.
Here is a random YouTube video I found showing similar proof:
But listen to this shit, it's horrifying.
Hear that? "Those who notice it won't matter"
Just like Mark Passio, ex occultist 33rd degree mason who was told by his priest "you will be like banging your head against concrete for the rest of your life, trying to tell the sheep what's going on because nobody will believe you".
1969 transcript which includes bible changes.
Do your own research.
If you're wondering, I also posted this
Are Georgia Guidestones the new Twin Towers? ↗
The bible also promotes genocide, abortion to prove a women's loyalty, slavery, etc.
Not to mention it describes a flat earth, has talking animals, a global flood and many MANY other nonsensical things. So why should we listen to it.
My description of what's in the second clip attached isn't fully accurate, but you get the idea, here's the full audio if you care
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2i3BTXxl8KM
Only read what you said now.
That description of slavery is not the slavery that is in the bible.
Let's leave aside conspiracy theories.
If you do a study of the bible you will find even the bible discourages this. I will not respond to comments or questions on that sentence. If you look at most of the religions across the globe all of them teach things are right and wrong. If the bible is used to make laws then the US government will become more of a Theocracy and trust me I will leave if that happens. I do find Rev 2:6 to be interesting. There is a word in that passage called Nicolaitans. I was raised as a child to believe that was a race of people. According to several experts, I know that word is a compound of two Greek words nikos and laos. The word nikos is the Greek word that means to conquer or to subdue. The word laos is the Greek word for the people. Some bible experts believe this was a reaction to the early church at least 1500 years ago forming an oppressive government. Heck, at one point it was illegal to own a bible. This is why I am opposed to the bible being used to make law and what I just explained is one reason I believe the Bible itself is against it!
Separation of church and state should be the standard, but with limited exception. As many highlight, the law of the land through the Constitution is the 1st amendment. And that's great. People can believe (or not believe) what they wish. It is literally our right to do so.
But it is important to highlight that our nation was founded upon Judeo-Christian doctrine. So the value runs deep (or at least it should) in America.
Point I'm making is the individual, not groups, is the most important aspect of our society. So if an individual wants to have a prayer on the high school football field and isn't forcing anybody to partake, that shouldn't even be a cause for controversy. No different than a Muslim praying five times a day, and maybe they have to do so before they get on a plane at the airport. What do airports and schools have in common? Government institutions that cater to private individuals. By the way, Muslims who come the United States know we're founded on Judeo-Christian values. And they ain't harping. Seems to be these lefties that have nothing better to do. Good! Then stop spending money. After all, IN GOD WE TRUST, right?
To close this up, prayer is still in Congress. Elected members of government, in government facilities, dictating laws for the nation. Nobody beats an eye. Why? Because they do it as individuals. So if the government isn't forcing the Bible on people (which it isn't), it will still play an influence simply based on individual belief. I hope we can all be tolerant of such beliefs, be it Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, etc. Isn't that what makes us the best?
Be safe.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams
Its also worth noting the phrase "Separation of church and state" as used by the lawless Federal politicians in black robes was referring to a letter by Thomas Jefferson.
Thomas Jefferson was at the time 3rd president of theses USA and more famously writer of the declaration of independence. Critically as many point out, the Federal politicians in black robes dishonestly took the line in question was taken entirely out of context turning it on its head to suit their own ends.
In the letter then President Jefferson was actually replying to a request by a Connecticut religious leader to intervene against his own state of Connecticut's religious laws, explaining why he as president of the union had no power to intervene.
For context a lot of states at the time had established religions or at least laws restricting or mandating aspects of religious practice among the citizens.
This kind of state behavior would remain popular in many states for anther 60+ years.
Indeed this is why the 1st amendment is written in the first place, they didn't want CONGRESS IE the federal government making any such laws as to avoid it taking sides in said conflicts.
American law should have a complete 100% separation of church and state as stated in the constitution. We should not swear on Bibles in court, should not have "God" printed on our currency, or have any religious reference to "God" in our Pledge of Allegiance.
That said, America is a democratic nation, whose population is predominately religious. Over 75% of the USA is Christian. Those people should be represented by the laws of the nation, and as such, their religious views should be represented, same as their economic or other views. That is not to say their views should be forced on the rest of the populace that does not subscribe to their religious dogma. That's why there should be no invasion of "God" into our laws, currency, national anthem/pledge of allegiance, etc.
It’s 2022, if humanity cannot come up with good, sensible, fair, equal laws and rights for people without referring to books 10000’s years old, then we are pretty fucked.
If you put a bunch of school kids in a room and said come up with some laws, they could do pretty well without referring to any religious book.
However much people vote for religion to represent them. I don't get why Christianity is the one in question here, the fastest growing religion is Islam. If math is broken, and Christianity is somehow unaffected and doesn't lose any members to the growth of Islam and stays steady, it will be outpaced at latest at the end of the century.
Christianity is not united, there are many different branches on that tree, mormons, lutherans, catholics, so on and so forth, there is no way to rally everyone together. Islam is the opposite, they are united, and at a certain threshold, which will be less than christianity because of unity they will be able to vote and influence laws on regional, state, then national levels.
If it's the will of the people, what's the issue, as this is a republic of the people?
as many as can pass the test given to any other legislative reccomendation - that is:
1. what is the stated problem and why is it worth putting people in prison over it
2. What evidence do you have that that is a problem.
3. What evidence do you have that it is worth putting people in prison over it
4. What is your proposed solution to prevent prison down the road.
5. What evidence do you have that your solution will fix the problem (1).
If it passes all of that it should become a bill. Bill can then get voted after less logical debate ensues.
Of course it doesn't actually work that way - I just think that standard should be applied to everything equally and it would solve a lot of problems.
To you, though, as you state. No one, absolutely no one can vote Republican. Anyone who does as such is against your ideals. As much as I think I do not make a difference. What did it this time? What the hell is going on this world, that made you differ? Where as a person on Death Row gives people answers. I would enjoy answers.
@normalice You stuck your tongue in your girls butthole. Do you need a wing man? It does not start with, "ma'am can I enjoy your asshole." It never starts that way. Never ever.
You put your butt in Biden's perview. He will not stop until the world says, I need children. I am guilty. I did not earn one vote beyond 69 mill. You fucked your way to the top? You fucked children and you don't care. However, you can't own it. When given the opportunity? You do it. You act as if you are conservative or have a brain. What? Is what you say.
I mean, I'll just keep reporting you for nonsense but in a way it sort of sounds like you're shocked that the left wants something reasonable. That's the entire point of the far right misinformation: to brainwash people into not only thinking the left can't be reasonable but also brainwash them into not knowing objective reasoning was the only thing the left wanted from the start.
@normalice Can you please change your name to something like BeatingAroundTheBush2000? I do not understand it. The word salad that comes from LEFTIES makes no sense. IRONY AND HYPOCRISY is paramount and tantamount. You cannot make inroads when you act this way.
@normalice What gets your panties in a bunch? You are borrowing pink thongs from your cousin and your wife. Manly men can pull it off. Not Libtards. When you say you have begonias, you don't say that underwear treats you right. It's supposed to treat you right, whilst you have the man ballz to pull it off. Where do we cross the aisle? We can't.
@normalice You love yourselves everything you hate the Orangeman for? But you spout off to no degree. Who needs to point out that your rant is Conservative? You see it as I need to come to grips. You see it as crossing the aisle. What you are supposed to do? See it that the IRONY and HYPOCRISY is in your court. What do you do with that?
This is why I do Bayou Bob. It's real. You are just a *unt that says no one can be Republican on MERIT. You are being a dumb *unt. When do you say the deeds that you did are your fault? You did it. All across the board. If everything is up and above board? Own it. You did it. We all knew what the fuck what happen? Own it. Please?
Bot's don't do this. @normalice and @OddBeMe You guys need to own this shit. Stop being buffoons. Own up. It's sickening and sadistic. Own up to your legitimate ways. If you don't have the balls to do it? It's mental. If you can tell me flat out you still enjoy everything as is, if you are telling me everything is A-OKAY, if you are telling me after 1 year hiatus of meeting your best buddies that won't do vaccines, tell me you still don't meet them? One on one? Not only one on one, they cannot be around your kids? Well, you are prepared right? You did it, you did all the prerequisites. You did everything and got kids vaxxed, and you still ban me?
At some point, you must see it. You must see what's in front of your face. If you want to be a fan of Corey Booker or Elizabeth Warren, or Ilhan, AOC, and the squad. Keep on doing it. If that is what you believe, if you want Chucky Schumer and Pelosi, keep on doing it. Do you know how to not be dumb? Have Barbecues again? Holidays? I implore you to seek out how you can meet my type again. You are over it? You should be. If you aren't seeing your ways, and I'm not seeing my ways as you see fit, then have a beer and fuck all. Start living.
@OddBeMe Church and State are separated. With the caveat of money saying in God We Trust, and children pledging their allegiance to the almighty USA. Try to tell me you are that much of a *unt to change that? That is besides the point, you are asking why you need to own up things? It's simple. People ask me why as a person life can be so grand? They just say, well, you live in a rural area... You do not understand our gripes... Stop being idiots!!! Stop moving to our areas. Stop bitching. Own it. You have something to fix!!! We do not. Come to Butthead. Come to the TRUMP train. If you don't like that? If you think we have it so fantastic? We could have it 100x better. Liberals wouldn't know how to make their shit hole something fantastic if their asses depended upon it. But it's our fault?
@OddBeMe What can be done, we can split the Country in half. Instead of question what may have been half territories between Japan and Germany winning WW2, we simply have 25 states where Libs have their thing, and 25 where Conservatives have their thing. We are the Country of the greatest experiment of all times, and it's coming to a head. It think it would be a fun time. I really do. Instead of Civil War, and all this divisiveness, let's put it to a fuck all end all. If your side does better than my side? I will lay it on the line. I am that confident.
But you see? The rest of the world is also a big time experiment. Collectively, take all the so called "free countries", look at what is going on? Take every industrious 1st world "free" Countries and combine them into the equivalent of everything that mixes everything you want. You don't want it. So, why in the fucking hell do you want something that does not work? It's in front of your face. When you can't name a number 1 Country to move to, why is it that you want to move to RED Areas and still opine that you should take your Liberal diseases with you? It makes NO SENSE.
Wow, this is still going on? I thought it was pretty well established this guy was either some paranoid northern Idaho basement dweller who hasn't really bothered to learn how society (or coherent sentence structure) works outside his bunker, or was pretending to be for the online trollols.
Idaho? Like Pocatello? I need not tell you is prime red areas. Why do you want to live there? Idaho should have FENCEs as high as they can be. You need to keep Californians at bay. But they move in droves to Arizona, Idaho, Texas, and Florida. Ask yourselves why this is? Well, you can have a better life there?
@normalice That is what you want. You want to ban me because I don't toe the line of Libtardism. You want Big Tech, the Media, and Government to be your God. I dare speak against that, and I must be banned from every platform out there. What kind of douche says "How is he allowed to rant and rave?" It's the same reason none of us have that capability, egg shells everywhere if you are conservative. Everywhere. We can't do it, because we must be careful of what we say, otherwise the 1st Amendment is no better than Germany. We cannot do anything on primary platforms. You love this shit. So, we have alternate routes. Yet we fight for our ability to say what we want and what we please everywhere. And all you cocksuckers are not happy with it. We don't toe the line? We don't kowtow to the Media. Yet you bitch about Fox News, which is not entirely right bent. However, if we are to be totally anti Libtardism, we must walk the egg shell line, just to have a spot in Big Tech. Otherwise, you get the Big Tech Gulag stomping on you. This is enough for you retards to stop bitching. Strikes from You Tube. Strikes from Twitter. Strikes from GAG? When ever has a Libtard had a strike against them? The answer is never.
@OddBeMe Everywhere in the USA is livable. To say that California and New York do not compromise in their retarded laws and expenditures versus poor red areas is inane. You douche fucks don't realize we were once a shit hole country that had ONLY 4 trillion in debt. Now we are 30 Trillion in debt? House of Cards fiscally is simply Globalism. You don't want to fix this shit. We just spend money willy nilly without putting it here in our own Country. You will spend it everywhere in the world except here. When a question was asked, how did people feel about the money being spent in the Ukraine? Libtards lit up the radar saying they were totally okay with it. You all bitch about how this country sucks. However, you claim to not be Libtards, you also falsely claim you are Libertarian. What does it take to say America Fucking First? Fuck all, let's find intelligent life in some far off galaxy and start sending them money.
@OddBeMe @normalice There is one more thing you should take into account. Nobody wants what you want. Yet the only talking points on your side is Female Reproductive Rights. That, and what? Gun Control? Two things. You think you are better than us. Those two things are the only saving grace for your party. However, we are the lesser of Evil. And we will prevail. When I watch television. I get sick of Ilhan pitching her bull shit. She's a brother fucker. And in her ad, who is the narrator? Her daughter? A product of brother fucking? Shouldn't she have offed her daughter in abortion?
@OddBeMe Cut defense spending? Why? China is catching up. It's okay though. As much as it hurts you to say, we have defense everywhere. China is our friend? I don't see it that way. Frankly? I could care less. We are in a cold war. I could care less if I die via detonation. You get obliterated. You are dead. It's the way of the world. Dinosaurs could not would not implant their selves, or do they? It's a crazy fucking Universe. They don't exist here. But they exist somewhere. Just like me and you exist. Is that what you are saying? Everywhere, we see people not seeing the US as Number 1. Who do they owe it to? Nope, you can't do it. In Libtards minds, we are invincible. We are not invincible. not need Globalism. It's a dog eat dog. Eat cat too. The US is not Commie.
@OddBeMe I don't see how you're make sense of anything he says enough to form replies. But you mentioned the defense budget and I think it's a little important to point out our country has a really broad definition of "defense." If you have a tomato harvester you want to sell to the government, for example, you can try to sell it as a tomato harvester or you can try to sell it as the exact same tomato harvester that harvests tomatoes on military posts. The latter is much more likely to get you a contract.
This isn't because tomatoes are used to blow up brown kids or whatever, but because we, the people, have been way too easy to manipulate with fear. So, in the past, any time any failing business wanted a slice of the tax coffer pie, they only had to give the vaguest of scenarios about how it has military use and slip a few thousand dollars into some politicians pocket, and that's that - instant contractually obligated customer who doesn't even care about the quality of the product. What this also means is the overwhelming majority of our military budget goes towards things that have nothing at all to do with combat.
Of course this works both ways. It means even things that would be enormously useful to civilians but are just too expensive for a startup, if they go through a military contract, their chances are much better. GPS started in a manner similar to this. A lot of medical advancement has been done through "defense contractors" instead of "medical contractors" because the US population doesn't vote for politicians who vow to fund medicine. They vote for politicians who vow to keep the military strong. And yes you can pin a lot of blame on the media for keeping people frightened but we keep consuming it all the same.
@OddBeMe @normalice Tomatoes are ripe for BLT's. It's in the season. Or not quite yet. Tomatoes are coming in. Which means you need mayonnaise, lettuce, tomatoes, and bread.
@OddBeMe These are fun times. Libtards being at their own ends. @normalice is so radical @OddBeMe calls you out for it. That is fucking fun.
@normalice Either govt agency or financed by govt to private inventors to get to the moon or fight commies.
Btw…Bayou-asshole is just too cute to block.
Oh, no doubt the whole cycle is shady af, I'm just saying that it is still the case that we are purchasing something from defense contractors, however overpriced that is, and we thus have the option to make them sell us other things if disentangling ourselves from them entirely isn't quite so immediately feasible.
As for bayou, I don't block anyone unless they are spammers. Blocking someone for refusing to take the time to ensure they are coherent shouldn't be necissary as it is a bannable offense. I'll just keep reporting it until the admins decide to do their job.
@normalice Which makes you prime material for being hired in the Big Tech Gulag system. Congratu fucking lations!
@normalice "Go howl at the moon, ya butterfingered milk licker." Now that comes from a place of real AI. Trevor Noah's Twitter Biden Insult Bot is genius. Libtards lambasted Trevor, because he wouldn't get political, not only not get political, but would not bash Conservatives. So, he comes up with something we can all enjoy. Let the Biden insult bot have it. He might just tell you where to put it, ya two-timing eggman.
@OddBeMe You haven't blocked a person yet? Go candy a ham you, you two faced spit-licker? It's comedy? Have some levity in these times. Biden is fun for one reason? These insults are Bidenesque. You called me racist. It's fun. I am neither racist. Or any of the above. I've been called Trumpturd, Trump this and that. When I fill up my gas tank? Stickers have Biden pointing to the gas pump price that say "I did that." It's fun. We can't have that though. Remember Conan's Bill Clinton, where there is Billy Boy's face with a mouth that talked? The mouth and lips behind that was no other than Triumph The Insult Dog. Robert Smigel. Yet Conan and Jay Leno and Jimmy Fallon claimed at one point to not have any affiliations political wise? They are just a product of Hollywood. Everything is a product of propaganda. Joseph Goebbels much? All these guys, sanz the most douche of it all? The bent ear weirdo. Who had so much respect? The guy before Trevor Noah? Jon Stewart? No, not him. The other guy? What's his name? Ahhh, Stephen M'fin Colbert. He has his show? Libtards eat it up, because he's left bent and has a left bent clipped ear? No, you Mr. @OddBeMe are not a product of propaganda. Do you realize Triumph The Insult Dog with the cigar in his mouth has Trump in his name hidden? Illuminati much? Everything is a shit show. A movie. We must drain the fucking swamp. If you ain't into that? Ban my ass!
The movie that is the Swamp. Doesn't understand that Trump was being vetted and groomed as a President before he told the world in the day he had no intentions on being President? Trump is as fake as anything. No one understands this. Remember hanging chads? Florida? Bush vs Gore? Apparently, Bush stole an election from the almighty who with his daughter Invented the Internet and Global Warming? All elite dbags including Leo DiShitrio and Tay-Tay Taylor Swift love them selves some mansions that take more energy than a small city to facilitate their Carbon Imprint? Heated pools, this that and the other thing. The other thing that must be considered, the Military always has technology 30 years ahead of time? The TCI/IP protocol? Clearly, Gore did not invent that mamma jamma. But we have Germans that should have been offed. Because they had rocket technology, he gets a pass? Why? Because had the goods to make the USA the Super Power that it is. We get the Nukes? What's his name? Sir Winston Churchill needed the USA to back him. What did the US do? Faked Pearl Harbor as Japanese to get the US behind the effort. It worked wonderfully. No US citizen had any skin off their back because they did not want WW1 repeated. Then we did it. We tromped everything. We took on Japan and Germany. Trounced them. Had the South Pacific, the Islands leading to Japan? So many fucking Americans did it. Then Libtards like to bitch we had to send a message, via nukes? Yes, Japan got fucked. We fucked them good, they would send their citizens off the edge, aka mass suicide, because they told their citizens the US is so fucking evil, they took their children with them jumping off a fucking cliff. The US finally said fuck it, enough is enough, we nuked them bastards, and here we are. No one in the US has to feel guilty about Enola Gay. People question why the US is the greatest? We did it to it.
*TCP/IP protocol. Get your bungs out your wife's assholes? The movie continues. Trump is likely running in 2024? To save it. He made America Great Once, now the mantra is Save America? But you Libtards think the Orangeman is not so rad? Do you really think the Kamel Toe Harris and Biden are running again? Fuck no. You would need Michael Obama and Oprah Winfrey to run for you? Is that likely? Fuck no again.
What we have here is prime example. Where Libtards bitch about who is the most extreme. The asshole who wants to ban my ass didn't ban my ass. Not only that, the asshole who claimed he didn't ban any body already banned me in another life time, aka GaG account, banned my ass. So, we have liars. We have extremes. Who are most extreme assholes? At this point, I truly have never ever banned a dip shit, for any reason. I clogged something. Let this be something of a lesson of all. You BAN us. And we keep coming back.
The Bible should be the guide to the constitution, and that the hard rule book for any other law or policy. Those who reeee the loudest, are those who know that they'd be dangling from a rope in past centuries for the crimes they routinely get away with now. They flee from God for the same reason a bank robber won't entertain presence with a cop.
Instead, we have lawless hellholes like Michigan, where executives openly violate any law they don't like, simply because it interferes with their other corruption. And anyone who points out how that violates their oath of office is jailed instead. Dana Nesser shouldn't be the AG. She should be spilling out like Judas!
But God is perfectly fine with genocide and slavery. Also with rape as long as they marry after. Along with other great things people forget the bible has.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 : Actually, there were times when masters were under expectation to free any slaves whose debts had been paid. And to cancel any debts mostly paid off after 7 years.
Slavery was just a way of life in the ancient world, though it was hardly condoned.
Yet, chattel slavery derived via kidnapping was punishable by death.
Also, only cities that had committed horrific crimes against humanity and nature were sanctioned for obliteration. Not due to bloodline, but due to their commitment to those crimes.
Also, many things are mentioned which aren't condoned, but neither denied.
Congratulations on demonstrating your lack of maturity with what you read. Assuming you actually read it, and didn't merely look for stock attacks from some hate site.
I already heard that excuse. First nets not sugar coat it, while there was the possibility of getting into slavery to pay debts and then leave those were a very small fraction of slaves. There are two instances where the bible clearly states that one should be a slave for life.
Again, not a book to be takes seriously.
Any society is going to take guidance from some religion it’s unavoidable. Besides our constitutional system only works for a moral and religious people not just moral people and not just religious people because certain religions can be moral but we need a moral religious people in order for a constitutional system to work otherwise The constitution doesn’t make sense it was written with Judeo Christian and greek reasoning in mind at least this John Adams take. And remember the separation of church and stay was never actually ratified in the constitution either and it was between Thomas Jefferson and a private letter to his friend
Wow don't delude yourselves in believing in separation of church and state. The original intention of the exclusion clause in the first amendment was to keep the government out of religion. Not the other way around. Individual citizens are free to bring their religious convictions to a public arena, but will they succeed to convince rational people of the need for some secular law that conforms to their religious conviction? Who's to say? Here's an example: having multiple wives is illegal in all 50 states. Uh... what? Who the fuck are they to tell me how many wives I can have? Adultery is grounds for divorce. Uhhh... what?
How stupid are you
It says right there that Congress shall make NO LAW respecting any religion. That means that Congress can't be biased in making laws, based on the religious belief of the states-men making the laws. It doesn't matter if a statesmen believed in Christianity, he could not enforce any CHRISTIAN law on the citizenry. Read these quotes from some of the Founding Fathers 
@VikingWarLord Yeah, dumbass, that's why we have a Supreme Court, because the Constitution says everything in black and white.
None of it. Anyone who says otherwise forgets that this country is supposedly about freedom and separation of church and state is part of that.
I’m not religious and it’s not fair that I have to follow rules or laws that are based on religious beliefs. And it’s not fair for someone who is Jewish or Muslim to have to follow laws based on Christian or catholic beliefs.
Imagine if they created laws influenced by The Quran or some other holy book. The Christian’s would get real fucking mad, wouldn’t they? 😐
I’m a Christian. I believe in Jesus Christ. I believe in heaven and hell. That being said, I do not think that the Bible should have anything to do with the laws or government. If someone else believes in other religions then I would not want to have to follow the beliefs of that either. I think that the government should work to support everyone as a whole. Although that’s not always possible to please everyone so then that’s where the votes come in. If the majority feels one way then so be it. I don't know. I’m rambling lol.
Separation between CHURCH AND STATE.
https://constitutioncenter.org/ic-2019/big-question/freedom-of-religion-the-establishment
First Amendment: Establishment Clause
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
The Establishment Clause prohibits the government from establishing or creating a religion in any way—that’s why we don’t have an official religion in the United States.
for the person who DISAGREES. IF you dont like it.. Vlad is looking for more people in his country! #douchebag
Separation of church and state doesn't mean no religion in laws, all our laws are based on judeo Christian values. Separation of church and state means there will be no declared Church so that the first amendment can protect the speech of other religions it's not to keep religion out of our laws. Because like I said the United States much like most of the western world has its laws based off of judeo-christian values. And if you write laws based on hedonistic or subjective goals that's how you get Nazi Germany or stalinist Russia or maos China who were all atheist dictatorships.
First if all Nazis were christians. Second the most athiest countries in the world are literally the best to live in. Third the god of the bible is the biggest evil and self centered psychopath in fictional literature.
I'm seeing many people in the comment section yammer on about the 1st amendment and the freedom of religion clause. What many are leaving out is the historical context as to the development of the Bill of Rights and Constitution. The driving force for such was to distinguish America from European governance. In Europe it was quite the norm for people to be imprisoned for practicing the wrong religion or even executed. For instance, if one were in a country where Lutheranism was the standard and you came along saying you were a Baptist, the state would imprison you. Allowing any religion to take in any state and federal government would and will tear apart the Constitution.
This question doesn't even make sense tbh. If many people share the morality of the Bible then they will advocate for those positions in voting and such. Nobody in mainstream america is advocating for the Bible to directly be involved in politics like "hey lets open the book and write some laws off of it" however you can't make someone who believes in the ideas that are contained in the Bible to say none of those ideas are allowed in politics. Because pretty much ALL political positions have been held by different religions and there for NO politics would be allowed at all.
Why not? That bit that says you shouldn't wear clothes using different types of fibre. It'll overnight wipeout influencers, you tube stars and other social media faker types, when their fashions are all dull boring religious based choices. The world will be happier for it. Win-win as I see it.
America is a country where you can be freely Christian, not a freely Christian country.
Separation of church and state 100%.
It's not that simple, the 1st amendment really did mean what it was written to say to keep the Federal Government from interfering in the then popular State business of established religions.
If you had read the entire letter and the one to which it was replying in which Thomas Jefferson used that cherry picked phrase "Separation of church" you would know that only existed at the federal level.
There were in fact a great many religious laws at the State level, laws which would remain population in one form or anther for anther 120+ years.
What the Federal politicians in black robes did in imposing the 1st amendment upon the States was in fact turn that amendment on its head. To instead of having religious freedom, all states were mandated to be atheist, and impose only atheism in their schools.
Weather you accept it or not Atheism is a system of believes, the official religion of most communist countries, and effectively under the warren court ours.
As someone who is not of the Christian faith, keep you damn faith to yourself and stop trying to force your version of the Bible on everyone else. Even at a state level, it is incredibly insensitive.
If you want a Christian institution it is available to you. Communist countries don’t have institutions for many different faiths. America is a melting pot of all different kinds of people and that’s the beauty of America, and everyone should be allowed to practice as they wish without having one entitled group forcing their beliefs on them. No one is forcing Atheism on anyone and the only people saying that are the ones that want to force Christianity on everyone else. That just makes those Christians the same as the Atheists you claim are the problem.
@Hrumf I'm telling you what the law is as written and practiced by the people who wrote it.
I'm sure most states would remain as they are so you would have plenty to choose from.
That said you are very much incorrect about the State forcing atheism on us. We see it from being unable to hold basic religious symbols or ceremonies to what they teach in our schools. For example when I went to Public school i got very much the atheist point of view.
From constitutional point of view this kind of behavior is new to the mid-20th century imposed by 5+ unaccountable federal politicians in black robes.
if you want to respect freedom honor the law as written and just vote with your feet, let a few people in a few states have religious laws they like instead of the ones we currently have. Nobody has to live there that don't like it. Right now we all have to live under the current atheist laws.
What is considered the Atheist point of view? Science that is not in agreement with your Bible?
They are Atheist because they don’t practice ceremonies and put up religious symbols like you would like them to? Not all kids can partake in those ceremonies without making that child feel uncomfortable if it isn’t a practice of their faith. Not all children are allowed to look at symbols that don’t belong to their own personal faith. It’s one thing to learn about a practice, it’s another actually practicing and that force of practice is what I am vouching against. Public schools are a STATE entity and should be separated from CHURCH.
If you want a school based off your faith, go to a private or charter school. If you cannot afford it, it is up to the parents to teach a child about their personal belief systems: it not the public school’s responsibility.
A. Keep them well apart. Religion and politics are totally different parts of life.
We all are subject to politics, but only a certain percentage are subject to religion. We should not force religious topics on anyone that doesn't want it.
Of course not. This isn't Iran. We not a religious dictatorship. And the funny thing is the laws wouldn't even be made by Christians. It would be made by the folks who use Christianity to advance their political views which have nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
I live in Nigeria and I understand the nonsense laws made because state and religion aren’t separate we have two major religions Islam and Christianity and it’s a war zone because certain laws wouldn’t be supported by either. The state and religion should and must remain dependent if you want equality and no bias
That would be cool, especially the really odd parts from the old testament.
Deut. 23:1 No man whose testicles have been crushed or whose organ has been cut off may become a member of the Assembly of God.
We will have to publicly examine the genitalia of Congress..
Then there's the part about the concubines, I guess that means legal prostitution?
The Bible is a book of great wisdom, even for non-believers. It gives us many examples of bad behavior and greed, as well as how to treat other people. It is not just a religious book. The same can be said for the Zend Avesta, the Tao Te Ching, or the Analects of Counfucius. We should use all of the wisdom ot the ages in guiding our nation. While I persomally believe in the Bible, I see wisdom in many other ancient writings.
The bible also promotes genocide, abortion to prove a women's loyalty, slavery, etc.
Not to mention it describes a flat earth, has talking animals, a global flood and many MANY other nonsensical things. So why should we listen to it.
The separation of church and state is real and should be respected. But the morals that people learn from the Bible can be carried with them when they uphold and enact laws. It should be understood that despite be influenced by Christianity that the US is a nation where all religions are tolerated and people are not to be followers of a state religion.
This part should be American law:
1 Timothy 2:11-14
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
@Snsl153 girl
@Snsl153 He is just quoting the Bible. That doesn't make someone a troll.
@Daniela1982 she can't handle the truth
@Snsl153 you can't handle the bible.
LOL :D What is there to "handle"? It's an archaic load of gibberish, a collection of texts over an approx. 1500 year span that merely demonstrates how shockingly ignorant people back then used to be. I prefer clear thinking, logic, and the scientific method to "faith". Religion is something we should have ditched thousands of years ago, when using a little reason and maths it was discovered that the Earth isn't flat.
@Snsl153 Those verses were referring to women in a church. Women were not allowed to be pastors either. What people do today is their own business.
u Which particular sect of Christianity will get to make all the laws? With so many denomination how do we choose which way men trim the corners of their beards or what fibers not to mix together into garment?
Literally according to the bible I can rape any girl I want that as long as she is not married I can have her. I have to marry her after, but who cares? Still my wife now. Otherwise her father has the right to kill her. Doesn't that sounds nice?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Quote the Book and verse it says that, and in what Bible?
@Daniela1982 I don't know, but he does.
https://youtu.be/bldw8X5apnY
@Daniela1982 I know he looks like a satanist out of a heavy metal concert. But that is the idea. He his president of an American athiest group and knows the bible front to back.
As well as a vast knowledge in evolution and an expert in phylogeny.
youtu. be/bldw8X5apnY
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Well Satan knows the Bible front to back, and back again too. That doesn't mean shit unless you believe it. James 2:19
New International Version
19 You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder (tremble in fear)
@Daniela1982 
@Daniela1982 I don't believe it.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 That is your right.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 gay bible is gay
Given that the Bible is the religious text of the West’s foundational religion, there is no question of whether it “should” influence our laws. It will influence our laws, whether we want it to or not. It will either be a positive inspiration for law or law will be crafted to consciously rebel against the religion. Either way, the Bible must influence the direction of Western law.
God supposedly gave Moses the commandments, but not long after ordered him to genocide an entire population.
Sure let's take the bible seriously...
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 that’s not my point. My point is that because it is one of the foundational aspects of Western culture, Christianity will inform its evolution either through adherence or reaction to the faith. So strictly speaking, the Bible influences American laws whether you want it to or not because America is part of the West.
That religion played a role in the development of the IS, sure it certainly did.
... of the US*
None at all. Zero.
The United States is not a Christian nation, and should not make laws based on a Christian text.
Questions like these are interesting. The same people who scream in anguish over abortion restrictions, have no problem throwing people in prison for child support payments, or wishing to charge rape for two intoxicated people having consensual sex. Such a joke.
The Bible should be used as a guide to establishing fundamental structures and values of equality, love, respect and authority. Constitutions should reflect qualities which could be expected. deemed necessary for peace and order, and desired in a civilized society. These guiding principles can transcend religiosity and reflect instead basic human needs and universal expectations. .
The Constitution doesn't mention God at all. Besides, there's nothing in the Bible useful for formulating the laws of a modern country. If we took our laws from the Bible, slavery would be legal and we would be stoning people to death.
@Guy__ in developed nations slavery is illegal.
@Guy__ no it isn't. Slavery is where you are owned by someone. They can beat you, drag you, rape you, do whatever.
First the brainwashing you describe is very much due to people's own will. They chose to believe this or that. Slaves do not have a choice.
How about the 10 Commandments and leave it at that. We already see the result of a nation without God... it's plain ugly. We should at least keep the 10 commandments in the laws. Otherwise, we might as well get rid of all laws and make everything and anything legal. See as how people are pushing for that anyway...
I think don't don't kill and don't steal are pretty good ideas. What percentage of The Bible would that equate to? 0.00000023 or thereabouts?
If it wasn’t for the Bible we’d all be killing and stealing, I guess they’re saying.
I suppose you are not seeing all the stuff that is going down on the Earth today. How are we doing so far? The Bible warns that demonic forces will increase in the end times. The only thing that keeps us from annihilation is God. In the end times God will take the Holy Spirit from earth and then the shit will really hit the fan. Then you will really see what it is like without God.
Dear Asker, you don't even get your own question lol. The laws to not kill and steal, etc are legally enforceable I. e. prison or punishment to those who would do it despite. If you remove the law, we'd not all be killing and stealing rather we would eb able to legally kill and steal.
@LovingLoverReturned Kind of like The Purge.
@Daniela1982 yup.
Leviticus 20:13 and 1 Corinthians 6:9 come to nine.
Both describe homosexual acts as “detestable” and Leviticus 20:13 mandates the death penality.
Image ine reeeing and gvelching from the queer paedophile left.
The bible also promotes genocide, abortion to prove a women's loyalty, slavery, etc.
Not to mention it describes a flat earth, has talking animals, a global flood and many MANY other nonsensical things. So why should we listen to it.
How much of Alice In Wonderland or The Wizard Of Oz be used as part of it? At least we've had a glimpse of that in the movie, "Zardoz".
@Snsl153 Yep, it is. Basically, they became a society that worshiped the gun as a god.
The 1st Amendment essentially separates ANY religion from the STATE.
No fairytale book should dictate anything when Congress makes laws.
It's right there in black and white for any dummy to understand in the first amendment.
@bean2k21 
When you remove the laws of the Bible, what are you left with? Would love to know. 🤣
The 10 Commandments go completely contrary to the Bill of Rights... It's a book about a god who kills kids because they made fun of a guy for being bald and says wives should be forced to have an abortion if her husband suspects infidelity.
obviously the harmful actions will overlap but in general no because only if i can sin is my obedience has value. if i can't buy wine then not drinking wine is not showing obedience..
Almost every regime in history that propped up one religion over the other by law has limited the freedoms of every other religious group. In order to truly have freedom of religion the government needs to be neutral to all religions.
None. I believe in separation of church and state.
Here's the three major reasons why the United States was founded
#1 tax evasion
#2 freedom of religion or separation of church and state
#3 the English royal family of the time kind of sucked
Also religion is dying out in the United States fewer and fewer people are believing in God so putting religion in the government would likely result in a civil war even if you could put religion into the United States laws
@crossdressingrihno What Libtards do then is become the most hypocritical bastards of all times. You can't have your cake and eat it too, whilst you replace God with Government. You still have a GOD. It just isn't freedom anymore. Sicking Government (aka GOD) down everyones throat and up your own asshole isn't helping you or anyone else.
What?
I'm not saying we should base our laws off religion and even if I were I would choose a god from my religion an not any Christian god
What? The government taking in religion?
If that happens I would stage a coup d'etat myself
@Guy_ can you stop avertising your opinion please?
I don't wanna be rude but I'm sure if it's worth looking at people will see it.
Yeah I read the whole thing
Look just above your question
You my friend should work at a car lot
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 If you are a Libtard, you are indeed replacing God with Government. You can't LIVE and LET BE. LIVE and LET DIE. Religious people don't care what I do, or believe. That is the way it should be. I don't care what other people do, so long as they don't infringe upon me. It's pretty fucking simple.
@bayoubob I agree with that last part. Everyone should be allowed to live as they see fit as long as they don't mês with someone else.
But why the hell me being an atheist is replacing God with the government? I don't worship the government, I don't pray to them, I don't think they will carry me to the afterlife.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 It all depends. Are you a Libtard? A Biden junkie? You did not question me when I called you or others a Libtard. If you don't question it, then indeed by default Government is your GOD.
@bayoubob Because for me to question when you call me and others a Libtard I would actually have to care. That is senseless to me, I am not even from the US.
Regarless the logic is flawed. There christian liberals just like there are athiest republicans.
An athiest is someone who does not have a belief in God. Just that. Political opinion is irrelevant.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 What kind of Kamala "The Toe' 'Heels Up' Harris world salad is that, that you spew?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 You are a fence sitter. No one cares. So, what in this crazy ass perfect storm of life and Universe does not get you Agnostic? Do you answer the questions? Chicken before the egg? What is your purpose? You cannot answer these things. You just die. No one has a finger on your pulse? No soul. Why can't we die when see fit? If you truly believe you aren't going to reverse aging, if you truly believe you will not shit and piss your self just like when you entered this world? What makes you think you can control anything? You just want God to do something. To not prolong anything beyond that. I don't want to live to be 100. or 90, or 82. Or even 45. Do you know when you have lived a full life? I don't believe you do.
What you are effectively doing whether you like it or not. Is to pray. That you do not get a condition that finds you taking a walk in the woods or cemetery and blasting a hole in your noggin. At the same time, you want that. Who will give you the balls? To not enter an old folks home? Simple logic says the most basic of instincts will not allow you to. When you wish for it, you will not have it. So why do so many people die innocently? When you can trade your life. God does what he wants to do. You don't have a choice.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 What came before the egg? Pure nothingness? How do you get something from nothing?
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 So? What the fuck does this have anything to do with the price of tea in China?
I have a simple point. We don't know anything. Nobody can simply say why we do this and that. Everything is so mentally fucking retarded we can't wrap our minds around it. You wake up, you piss, you shit. Live thusly and free as can be. When people decide they are holier than thou art? That is when things get fucked.
Look guys this is devolved into nonsense. I have read it through this entire thing multiple times and every time I read through it, it just gets more confusing. I get you guys have strong opinions on the matter but insulting each other and using fallacies isn't going to convey a point. This has basically become spam and I just hope you guys can understand that neither of you are getting anywhere and in the end of this conversation won't change a thing aside from annoying both of you and myself
@crossdressingrihno Cross dressing weirdo. We do not care. Cross Dress to the hilts. Cross dress to the point of self anointing yourself a RIHNO? Put yourself in hand cuffs. Bleed in your pussy. Show it off. It's RINO? Do you get that? Rihno? What the fuck is a RIhNO? I get it, now. You self absorb and don't know what you are.
You are right the conversation has become a mess because he got very off topic suddenly.
None. That's the whole point of the separation that still hasn't ever happened since the founding fathers wanted it.
I feel wisdom can come from many different places. The Bible is one of them. Ofc I am not saying we should used the Bible as a rule book but as a place of wisdom.
Place of wisdom? What wisdom does it have?
You don't need the bible to know that.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Ik but all I am saying is that their is wisdom in it if ya look for it and try to apply to modern day society.
That part is good.
To bad the old testament doesn't apply it at all. I am not criticizing you, I agree that the good parts of the bible should be taken to society. Problem is that bible that many horrific parts too.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Well its not like the world was build on a clean soul either. Plenty of blood was spilled in order to make the world. Blood is still be spilled. The good and the bad is a part of who we are as a species. We must learn to not make the bad happen again and make the good, better for all
Then instead if listening to a book, let's just listen to ourselves. eaen from past mistakes and make our own decisions on right and wrong.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yes we could do that but how many people would care to listen to what other people would say?
That is as far as I know one of the biggest problems in the world. People don't care to listen.
@This_Is_My_Opinion8 Yea it is
All of these that are accurate. Most of today's moral system of Western World is based on Bible - "do not kill" "do not steal" etc.
True. Because without the Bible we wouldn’t know not to kill or steal.
We absolutely would know good from evil without needing the bible. Vast majority of the prison inmates in the US are christian.
On the other hand most athiest countries are some of the most safe places to live on this planet.
Not to mention periods in history like the dark ages, the inquisition and the cruzades.
For it to be part of laws regarding everyone it should first be a topic that everyone believes in.
All the New Testament plus the 10 Commandments FOR SURE !!!
You want "do not covet" written into law? What about adultery? How do we put "honor your mother and father" into a law? What's the punishment for working on the Sabbath day? What's the punishment for saying "god dammit"? Can you define what an idol is in order to make it a crime to make one?
1) You shall have no other gods before Me.
2) You shall not make idols.
3) You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.
4) Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
5) Honor your father and your mother.
6) You shall not murder.
7) You shall not commit adultery.
8) You shall not steal.
9) You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
10) You shall not covet.
No, not even that. The first commandment about "not having other gods before me" is vague to the point of being utterly useless, because no one even knows who this god is. In Exodus 3:14, when asked by Moses, he simply replies, "I am what I am". What does that mean? I ask because I have no idea, but perhaps you do.
@Snsl153 Someone asked that question and I addressed about 30 minutes ago. It is much deeper and there are not to many on here with the ability to reach into the depths of God. You happen to be one of these who God is calling and regenerating anew. Attributes of God thing I mentioned to you some time ago addresses this...
You do not have to reinvent the wheel AND I am not doing it. ALL you have to do is read about the Founders, study the Constitution, and put the effort into it. I can provide you with two sources to start where you can both read Original docs and get a critical review that is worthy of your time. www.wallbuilders.com
The previously given website is my favorite because MY Simple Mind gets what he says The following one is for the Public but the Regent crowd or someone aspiring to Clerk for a Judge goes here. There's this 13 year old girl on here that can handle the following...
www.americanheritage.com
All I see is ignorant and lazy damaged minds who "throw the baby with the water".
As most other spiritual texts, the bible is obviously esoteric.
Definition of esoteric :
1a: designed for or understood by the specially initiated alone
1b: requiring or exhibiting knowledge that is restricted to a small group
2a: limited to a small circle
Does that ring any bell?
Not saying that you can't start learning the esoteric meaning.
Rather whatever you were indoctrinated with in childhood doesn't invalidate the rest of scripture.
Actually something does invalide it 100%, I'll soon be saying that the bible is pure garbage. And to see why, read my opinion on this question.
American isn't really a Christian nation to begin with. So the question is moot.
I think religion should not be involved in politics and government. that's because i think religion is a personal thing and not something to generalize even for people who don't believe in that religion but happen to be in that country
America should be heavily influence by The Bible. 💞
look at all the so-called witches burned at the steak when the church had too much power most didn't even practice witchcraft but were not church goers
You are talking the Roman Catholics. God has not part of them as they are not Christian.
none. religion and politics should not mix. that's why we're "secular".
American law should not be influenced directly by the bible, but it definitely should be guided by right and wrong, so there should be a lot of consistency between our laws and what is taught in the bible.
Most of it is already our whole judicial system is based on the 10 commandments
Thou shall not kill = murder 1st degree,, etc
As a Christian saying this… none! People should choose to follow the law of God that’s why God gave us free will. Why would he give people free will and then this same people try to force this law on us. Makes no sense
Ideally all the moral laws since God's laws moral are perfect, but America isn't a theocracy nor does the U. S. A. constitution allows to make laws according to religion laws to govern a nation.
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor (perjury)
I would take the guidance of the Bible from the Old testament. Our country is so diversified and religion we have Judaism, Muslim, Buddha, Hindu and many others. Majority of the religions know something about the Creator, God.
IF there are any normal people here (still), then you may think I’m Twippin Twippin but no. That’s force, God doesn’t force. Pingas
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