Why doesn’t God reward his followers?

[OddBeMe]

Stats are clear…more religion = more poverty, crime, etc. Why?

He does…in other ways

He doesn’t exist

Other

[dustybiker]

The queen of England said it best. I think it applies here. (And I paraphrase - I think it was a quote through William or Harry..) The veil between royals (all the pomp and fuss) and common folk is there for a reason. If the mystery disappeared so would the delicate control it holds.

Start giving out rewards. People start knowing they deserve them. Equalling the playing field isn’t what leaders do. They hold control.

Religions have always used gods for control. Their veil.

[OddBeMe]

As long as the status quo of proletariates are kept in their place…

[dustybiker]

*equalizing

Yup. Tis’ true.

[Snsl153]

Is that how you see God, as being some kind of Cosmic Father Christmas (that's "Santa Claus" for you Yanks)?

[NathanDavis]

very interesting list...

because at the bottom of the list, you will find a region in which a LOT of very extremely rich religious leaders do like to go and invest and retire with their riches, the less religious states in the USA

Connecticut - 43.00%
Maine - 34.00%
Vermont - 34.00%
Massachusetts - 33.00%
New Hampshire - 33.00%

[OddBeMe]

Yeah…but the top of the list is the issue. I could logically argue the 40% of religionists are living off the success of the unreligious.

[Guy13]

Your worldview is Fleshy and want rewards now. A biblical worldview is Spiritual and know our Sovereign Lord is on the throne and we are set to eternal life whereas those not In Christ Jesus and rewarded are destined for Eternal death (no reward). Hope that helps.. Mr. Happy... have a good week !

[OddBeMe]

You too!

[JDavid25]

Being religious doesn't equate having a relationship with God... But also the places with more problems tend to breed more religious people.. Hence why you see Christianity secretly blooming in high conflict places where they may even face persecution for it.. He does and will reward his followers maybe not of this world and maybe he will.. The ultimate rewards will be living in eternity with him..

[OddBeMe]

Your first sentence seems wrong, semantically. In basic grammar, god is religion. How you want to personally judge the religious is on you.

[JDavid25]

Not really.. The original definition from the Latin means to bind oneself to monastic vows.. Doesn't sound like "God is religion" to me..

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

God purposely through His divine sovereignty and wisdom causes His followers (Christians) to be poor or middle class but not very rich most often.

Having lots of riches pushes people away or they become cold regarding being devoted to God.

As long as you have your needs then you are good.

[jshm2]

Stats aren't clear, kiddo. Religiosity doesn't mean more devoted or proper followers.

It's like saying cities should be low crime areas as they have more lawmakers and law enforcers.

[OddBeMe]

No, actually. crime per 100,000 people have a pretty clear “correlation” to more religious communities around the globe. Obviously, science would say “correlation no causation”. But religiously…why kiddo?

[Stoner710]

Well I’m not sure I’ve got exists but if he does it’s because he rewards his followers in heaven not on earth

[OddBeMe]

It would seem there’s an opposite effect of believing.

[Stoner710]

I mean suffering for eternity is a pretty good deterrent. Of course I think if your going to believe in Atheism he might as well take it to the logical extreme which the Marquis de Sade again he is where we get The term sadism from

[OddBeMe]

What did Desade do?

[Stoner710]

As far as my understanding of atheism he but it ended perspective. Who the fuck cares about morality who the fuck cares about society if I want to have sex with a girl I will do anything within my means to have sex with her willing or not. We all turn into worm food eventually. So why not sleep without many women I want torture these women if need be and live live screwing as many people over as I want to. We only have one life to live right? So why should I give a fuck about your morals and values your rights as long as it pleasures our benefits me I’m gonna have one life right why not do it.

[Stoner710]

Or we get our values from my Legend even and Richard Dawkins Ayn Rand or Samuel Harris can’t pronounce the Marquis de Sade as the logical conclusion of atheism. Both Ayn Rand and Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris understand i’ve had an order to thrive like we have in the 28th and 21st century comes off of the idea that God exist. We have sense involved Beyond the reasoning of God and this is just universal truth.

I’m a use another post because I’m running out of room

[Stoner710]

But ultimately to Marquis decide is correct if you take the no god exist position. If the Marquis de Sade is correct then who cares if you screw over anyone you coming cock to, if God exist then of course you should be loyal to God first and then family and then society it’s all part of what she live in ultimately the federal government federal government of course with the last on your list. It’s all the mail where is the cut off point here it’s better to be the Ayn Rand Richard Dawkins position which is somewhere in the middle I would say agnostic vs the logical conclusion of atheism and Christianity itself

[strateguy632]

statistics few rich and few atheists, others must overlap. why not? see isaiah 59.

[exitseven]

He does in other ways. You won't burn in Hell for example.

[OddBeMe]

“Burn” is subjective. I have an agreement with the red guy.

[MrJMM]

I don't believe in god or gods. That whole concept is stupid to me.

[Dinosaursandanime65]

What are you talking about, his love and Heaven are the reward. You sound like a worse version of my brother

[RealDaveThomas]

All the money is going to the church, instead of the state. Keeping the state poor

[OddBeMe]

Well…yeah why do they do that? Religionists putting their last dollar in the collection bin.

[msc545]

Assuming there is a God, why would he reward violent racists?

[WhiteBoyChill]

Because you don’t need money to find happiness.

[OddBeMe]

I would say you're wrong up to 90%. There is research that show middle class are the happiest.

[WhiteBoyChill]

Its obvious why they’d be happiest, but it isn't a requirement.

[jengeorge26]

GOD is real, read the Bible

[slatyb]

The Bible ’s just words written by people. Like all writing, it may be true or not. I expect that you have no problem discounting other writing believed sacred by others — the Quran, the Book of Mormon, etc.

[RealDaveThomas]

@slatyb Constitution. Which is being targeted, of course, by republicans. Trying to "rewrite" it, to fit "their narrative

[slatyb]

@RealDaveThomas The Constitution is indeed words written by people. The Constitution only has authority as long the people of the United States believe that it should, and that the rulings of the Supreme Court should be followed.

[RealDaveThomas]

@slatyb Which is funny because their recent ruling is a direct violation of the first amendment. Freedom of religion. Jews, like myself, dont believe that life begins at conception, we believe it starts at birth, so, the idea that abortion is no longer legal, or will be illegalized in all red states, sounds like, is a DIRECT VIOLATION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT, AND IS A ANTISEMTIIC, CLAUSE

[Anonymous]

God is scam...