Their beliefs are benign, they don't believe that anyone goes to hell (because it doesn't exist), they oppose war, nationalism/patriotism, and want to see the earth turned into a paradise. What's there to hate?
I don't hate them... but people showing up at my door and bugging me with shit when I'm trying to play video games and relax is really fucking annoying. I'm trying to chill and don't give a fuck about my soul or whatever. They need to fuck off. I feel the same way about random calls from weirdos that want to talk about my insurance or my healthcare. It's like... will they just fuck off and die already?
Like other salesman types... they basically force me to be rude and tell them to fuck off. Is what it is.
Other than that I do hate seeing what it does to some of their family members. I had one friend that was just chill and was basically outed because he likes to smoke weed. Totally chill dude... but has to hide something like smoking weed because his family decided to be all righteous and shit. I was friends with him and his brother that was playing inside the rules of their beliefs. It was just sad to see how it forced them both to behave in certain ways
So yeah... I don't hate... but dogmata of any kind is just sort of a lot of bullshit you don't need in life unless you're not capable of forming your own way of life in a respectable way. With that said, I sort of consider them social rejects that have to join a club in order to find any sort of acceptance. Either that or it's their parents and the kids either have to conform or get rejected which is sad in both cases. They can't just be themselves after that. Compare it to this new religion of "woke" where the fucking kid has to pretend to be a tranny to satisfy woke mommy's dreams.
Yeah... you got a real point there. No joke. That literally is most people.
I guess my bit beef is when someone is making their life choices something the want to make me to conform to... pause the game or not... they're wasting my fucking time.
As with any religious group, opinions about Jehovah's Witnesses can be quite varied and can range from deep admiration to strong dislike. There are several reasons why some people may hold negative views about Jehovah's Witnesses:
Every religious group has its own unique set of beliefs and practices that may not be well understood by those outside the faith, which can lead to negative perceptions.
I took a philosophy class in college in which we had some insanely good moral, ethical, and religious debates. I remember the one that nearly started a fight was when one JW said she was willing to let her child die rather than give him or her a blood transfusion if they got in a major accident and that was needed for the child to survive. To me, there are limits to what should be "free to believe in" especially when those beliefs interfere with the lives of others who are too young to make decisions for themselves. I don't hate them, that is too strong of a word, but I dislike their practices and how they approach people to try and spread their message. I cannot tell you how many parking lots I have been in where I was minding my business and someone has popped out of their car with handfuls of pamphlets and wanting to convert me.
What do you suggest then?
Ban against anti vacines, how about anything not else you d not like, should parents have no say about their own children?
@Deliciouscookies You've gone the extreme route in which you think I believe parents shouldn't have a say in rearing their own children, but I'm referring to something very specific in which their lives can be saved in a verifiable medical way. I don't know any parents who are willing to let their children die, do you? Is that okay with you?
In situations where a child's life is in danger and medical intervention is necessary to save their life, it is understandable that parents would want to do everything in their power to ensure their child's survival. However, in some cases, parents are refusing one medical treatment for religious or personal reasons in favor of another medical treatment.
It is important that a complex and sensitive issue about the decision to override parental autonomy should be made with great care and consideration, and based on dislike for religious or personal reasons.
@Deliciouscookies If you read up on what actually happens in these situations, this is what doctors and support staff are trained to do. They explain the severity of the situation and offer up options to the families or try to convince them of the immediacy of the blood transfusion to safe their lives. Adults can think and feel and act how they want when it comes to themselves, but we need to do far more critical thinking when those actions affect others. It is not enough to say it's okay to let a child die, and we should all be fine with that because doctors and surgeons swear an oath to do no harm and standing by and letting a child die...IS harm no matter how you slice it or try to explain that away with "parental rights." We prosecute adults and send them to jail in similar situations.
You are disregarding the medical alternatives.
People may dislike Jehovah's Witnesses for various reasons, such as disagreement with their teachings on blood transfusions, military service, and political activism, perceived aggressive evangelism, rejection of mainstream holidays and celebrations, misunderstandings, and stereotypes. However, it is possible to have respectful dialogue and understanding with people who hold differing views.
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I don't hate them, but they are trying to spread a false religion.
Several years ago a boy came to my door and gave me one of their magazines. His parents were waiting in the car. I came so close to going out there and chastising them for leading their children to Hell through their false religion. I'd say the same to Roman Catholic parents. If people would just read the New Testament, the real one, not the altered JW one, they would know the truth and see the errors of JW and the RCC.
Because JW's are hateful bastards - especially when it comes to the medical (most are anti-vax and refuse to give/receive blood) and ex-members (so called apostates).
There have been many cases where they have been branded a cult. Not to mention how dangerous and controlling the behaviour of "elders" are in communities. They practically will demand you have an arranged marriage to someone they choose. Else make your family life hell.
Their version of "paradise on Earth" is everyone else's version of hell.
They go around pushing their beliefs on others.
Would you like it if I knocked on your door a few times a year to try to get you to join the church of the flying spaghetti monster?
Sure, the free strainers would be nice at first, but eventually you would get fed up with my inability to take no for an answer.
It's not hate. They don't follow the bible or believe in the trinity. They believe Heaven only had space for the few selected and the rest will live on an alternate Earth. They are a cult and follow The Watch Tower written by some New Yorker. There are quite a few where I live and they shun everyone who is not part of their "kingdom" including their own children and grandchildren. What's there to like?
The Trinity is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All 3 (tri) are in the bible.
@TrueConfection
It's understandable that you may have negative views of Jehovah's Witnesses based on differences in beliefs and practices.
Nonetheless, the non-belief in the trinity, is bible based, and although JW's the largest church not believing it, it is not the only one.
These do not belive in the trinity either:
Christadelphians
Oneness Pentecostals
Unitarian Universalists
The Way International
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
The Church of the SubGenius
The Christian Science Church
The United Church of God
The Living Church of God
At any rate, arguing about your understanding of the bible isn't really an answer to the question. Again, it's not hate for Jehovah's. They are a cult and the shun everyone else.
@TrueConfection not believing in the non biblical doctrine of the trinity, dose not constitute cults. Nor does not agreeing with your interpretations.
@TrueConfection
Clearly, you do not understand the dictionary definition of a cult.
@TrueConfection No that would be foolish thinking, I am simply stating a facts, that your are wrong in your statement, your emotions make you say whatever hatefull thing you can think of, like a cult
But it's factually a false statement, not just for JW, but for most relegions and groups you disagree with.
https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/cult
*saying
@TrueConfection Not when they are not cults, it's a claim based on your dislike, it's technically not true that any of then are cults by any street of the imagination based on the dictionary definition.
False religion and their belief that "No Solicitors" does not apply to them!
Because they're intrusive and annoying. Same thing with door-to-door salesmen.
People hate that they knock on their doors and try to convert them to their phoney baloney religion.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/6gLMSf4afzoHate is a strong word. I dislike some Jehovah's because the come to my door intrude into my life & try to shove their beliefs down my throat.
aren't those the guys that go door to door trying to sell her religion and getting you to join while your in the middle of something
maybe this?
Who hates JW? Never heard that. However, as I understand it, like Mormons, JW do not accept Jesus as G0d incarnate. That gives observant Christians pause.
As with any religious group, opinions about Jehovah's Witnesses can be quite varied and can range from deep admiration to strong dislike. There are several reasons why some people may hold negative views about Jehovah's Witnesses:Jehovah's Witnesses have beliefs and practices that are different from those of other Christian denominations and some people view these differences as heretical. Jehovah's Witnesses are known for their door-to-door evangelizing, which can be seen by some as intrusive. Jehovah's Witnesses have a strong sense of community and encourage separation from mainstream society, which can lead to feelings of mistrust or suspicion from those outside the religion. Some of the practices of Jehovah's Witnesses, such as shunning former members or not celebrating holidays and birthdays, can be seen as extreme or insensitive by others. Every religious group has its own unique set of beliefs and practices that may not be well understood by those outside the faith, which can lead to negative perceptions.
In regard to the trinity:
https://youtu.be/_kHoEDA-Xw4
@smølf I am fully settled in my beliefs. I respect opposing opinions even when they are dead wrong, including yours. But we will have to agree to disagree. You have no other choice. No amount of unsupported ranting on your part makes any difference to me. I believe what I do on faith which can't be questioned. What worries unbelievers such as you is whether or not they are wrong. Perhaps on the day of your funeral, you will be all dressed up with nowhere to go!
The climate always changes. Human contribution to it, in the added CO2 (AKA "plant food") is minimal. I am in favor of raising it from 400ppm to 800 to restore rain forests and green our deserts.
Professor Mark Edwards - The Doctrine of the Trinity in the Early Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8GujRue8BQ
@Dargil
The doctrine of the Trinity, which states that there is one God in three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit), developed over several centuries in the early Christian Church. It was not a concept that was explicitly stated in the New Testament, but rather one that was gradually formulated as early Christians attempted to understand and articulate their beliefs about the nature of God and Jesus.
The early Christian Church held a belief in the divinity of Jesus, as well as in the Holy Spirit as a divine presence, but it took several centuries for the idea of the Trinity to be fully developed and articulated. Some of the key figures in the development of the doctrine included the early Christian apologists and theologians such as Tertullian, Origen, and the Nicene Fathers, who lived and wrote in the 2nd and 4th centuries.
The Nicene Creed, which was formulated in 325 CE at the Council of Nicaea, was a crucial moment in the development of the doctrine of the Trinity. The Creed affirmed the belief in one God in three persons and was intended to combat Arianism, a heresy that denied the full divinity of Jesus. The Nicene Creed became the standard expression of the doctrine of the Trinity in the early Church, and it remains an important statement of belief for many Christians today.
"You should understand that settled faith is beyond question." - Dargil
Yes, and that right there is the problem with "faith". People who have it aren't open to new information, new evidence, and they think they know everything. It's pointless even talking to them, because they're far too stubborn to change their tiny minds.
TRIPLE YAWN!
They don't accept Mohammad, Peace be upon him, as the seal of the prophets
Probably because people think its a Cult.
The term "cult" is often used to describe religious or spiritual groups that are seen as outside the mainstream or as deviating from accepted norms.
Ultimately, the classification of a religious group as a cult is a matter of perspective and can depend on an individual's personal beliefs and values.
It's a harmful cult
It's BS.
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