What do you personally think when you hear someone or the media say, Islam is a religion of peace?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

[DaveJord]

Same thing I thought about Christians as I manned the gunners turrent, strapped in behind my Browning M-2 " MA Duece" .50 Cal Machine Gun... running IED Ally down MSR Tampa... AO Denver, running through the heart of Sunni Triangle.

I think of them the same as the Christians, as we unloaded Highly Mobile Artillery Rockets Systems (HIMARS) off of a Boeing C-17 GlobalMaster III, set them up and then over the course of 2 days... I set there in my lawn chair, watching them launch 36 highly explosive missle war heads into Raqqa Iraq.

They were given two weeks to evacuate. They were warned any who stayed, would be killed. To the man, women and child.

ISIS died that day. It literally stopped to exist, wiped off the face of the earth, by God fearing Christian people... and honestly I don't even give a shit. I don't have the compassion to give a shit any more. A decade of war fighting and I was there the day ISIS died, and the music stopped.

Israeli and Palistine... you want to pretend Christian are any better.

You have received all the time I am going to give to this bullshit post. You should be ashamed. They picked up a weapon and took the feild and died for what they believed. You send bullshi memes and mock them.

Pick up a sword and fight or die by the hand that holds it. Fucking cowards post. You know nothing of death, battle or war. NOTHING!

When my time comes I will embrace the Devil as an old friend, that I often cheated and long avoided. And in that way, I am blessed. There's no 50 virgins for me, or Heaven. But they call me hero. Thank me for my service, as if they even know.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

ISIS isn't dead, educate yourself.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@SakuraBlossoms87 Haha just need to land on an aircraft carrier and declare "Mission Accomplished!"

[DaveJord]

@SakuraBlossoms87 You think so... your miss informed.

What happen to ISIS?
In March 2019 the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) was ousted from the last of the territory it had seized across Syria and Iraq. At its late 2014 peak, ISIS controlled large swathes of both countries, subsuming government resources and bureaucracy—along with industry, commerce, and agriculture.

Is there still a war in Iraq?

In 2017, full-scale fighting in the country came to a close after the Islamic State was defeated by the Iraqi government and its allies, but a low-level IS insurgency remains ongoing in the rural northern parts of the country.

www.foreignpolicy.com/.../

The United States dramatically underestimated the number of civilians killed in the U. S.-led coalition’s assault on the self-proclaimed capital of the Islamic State two years ago, according to the research of two leading human rights groups.

During the four-month campaign to oust the Islamic State from the Syrian city of Raqqa in 2017, some 1,600 civilians died as a result of coalition airstrikes and bombing, Amnesty International and Airwars wrote in a new report.

You fools believe what you want, I was there so your blowing smoke. ISIS literally holds Zero Territory; we took it all back.

[DaveJord]

@BoopBoopBeep This is no Mission Accomplished Bullshit. The US Military Objective against ISIS was met. We took back all their territorial gains, and we ousted their government, and killed all their leaders... now sure they still exist on a very small scale... but the military objectives were accomplished. No banners, this was all done out of the public eyes, it was all clandestine stuff.

So, you and @SakuraBlossoms87 are talking out your ass. I was there.

[BoopBoopBeep]

@DaveJord
"ISIS died that day."

www.khaama.com/.../

www.nytimes.com/.../us-raid-syria-isis

There's literally an active section of NBC News devoted just to ISIS. I have an ISIS tracking section at my place of employment. We just funded a 9-figure contract to monitor and catalog ISIS social media.

Sorry Jack Bauer. You're drinking your own Kool-aid.

Are they weaker than they were? Oh hell yeah.

"ISIS died that day" because you were there doesn't even rise to the level of laughable.

[DaveJord]

@BoopBoopBeep What ever dude, the military objectives were accomplished. Your missing the point and you are not hearing or listening to me.

Like the US won WWII, did Nazi's just stop existing? Know we have Nazi's all the way through to present day... but they have no terrorist, and they were hunted and killed for dates following WWII.

But Nazi, had no terrorist, they had no real power... they were just fugitives on the run. Thats all this is, when the North Won the US Civil War, there was still Southern symphataziers, like we did not kill them all... they even exist today... but their government was destroyed, their lands were forcedly taken back... and they had not real power.

So, the only thing laughable here is your lack of prospective.

[DaveJord]

Nazi have no territory not terrorist.

[BoopBoopBeep]

You didn't say Nazism died that day. I'd laugh at you for that too.

[DaveJord]

@BoopBoopBeep Dude you are delusional, like you got my point, and you are just grasping at straws... like seriously whatever.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@DaveJord - if ISIS died then please explain why it is STILL practicing? WHY the USA still lists it as of LAST MONTH as a threat.

www.wilsoncenter.org/.../us-intelligence-jihadi-threat-2023

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@DaveJord - www.criticalthreats.org/.../the-state-of-al-qaeda-and-isis-in-2023

[LeQuebecois]

@BoopBoopBeep Yeo

[DaveJord]

@SakuraBlossoms87 ISIS was the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria. It controlled all the land from Eastern Syria, down the Tijeras and Euphrates River Valley as far east as Western and Northern Iraq to Karkut to and it to Mosel, and its capital was Raqqa. They controlled over 34,000 square miles of land across Syria and Iraq.

That was in 2014 and by the end of 2019 they controlled nothing... had no land and their false Caliphate and government was destroyed, "wiped off the map".

ISIS still exists as a terrorist group, but they no longer function as an independent state. Trump pulled all American Forces of Syria in 2019 and then bombed our own military bases to destroy them. The Russians stayed in Syria, they were going to keep fighting ISIS Terrorist cells, what little were left... then war in the Ukraine and they are making news. But just last week Turkish Intelligence killed their leader again for like the 3rd or 4th time.

My point being is ISIS as a power player or independent state is dead.

[DaveJord]

And seriously before any of you losers try to tell me something instead of asking honest questions... you don't know shit. I fought that war for over decade and walked that land in real life... so do not be insulting or disrespectful.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@DaveJord - ROFL You are NOT military if you blubber such nonsense. EVERY military personal knows that your spouting is garbage and I say that as someone from a MULTIPLE generation military family all the way back to fighting Napoleon.

A military organization is NOT just destinated by its land. If that was the case Al Quada would have ceased centuries ago but too bad for losers like you they're very much a threat just like ISIS is.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

@DaveJord - and the GARBAGE you spout is proven by REAL military > www.criticalthreats.org/.../the-state-of-al-qaeda-and-isis-in-2023

[DaveJord]

@SakuraBlossoms87 Someone is definitely spouting garbage here that this for sure. Critical threats. org sounds legit to me... and the link doesn't work.

[Lliam]

Out of the 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, how many are like the ones portrayed in that hateful cartoon?
Some of the nicest, most generous people I've ever met have been Muslim.

I know people who have traveled through Turkey, Syria and Palestine. They said the people were super friendly.

Syria was one of the safest visitor destinations in the world until 2011 when the U. S. decided to overthrow the government by recruiting, arming, funding and assisting head chopping Islamic terrorists from around the world to invade.

Given the behavior of so many so-called Christians, Jews and even Hindus, can those be called religions of peace?

[YesterdaysChild]

Syria? They tried to invade Israel with Egypt and Jordan in 1967 in the 1967 Arab–Israeli War. Also the 1973 Yom Kippur War, again led by Syria and Egypt. So you see, Syria is not the nicest group of people that you would want to hang around with.

[Lliam]

@YesterdaysChild. I guess not, if you think Israel are the innocent good guys.

Nevertheless, Syria was a top tourist destination until the U. S. started trying to destroy it in 2011 on Israel's behalf with a fake popular uprising.

[Daniela1982]

You can't put anything beneath the US government. Just like they faked weapons of mass destruction so they could invade Iraq.

[Lliam]

@Daniela1982. Yup. It has pulled a lot of underhanded crap since 1953.

[Tim2nice]

Most people are peaceful. Religions are not. By the way, I come from a Muslim background and I despise that religion and it definitely isn’t peaceful

[YesterdaysChild]

@Tim2nice The Bible does talk about people who claim to do things in the name of God. God knows the heart. God is not mocked. What you sow is what you reap.
Matthew 7
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[SakuraBlossoms87]

I'm Muslim by birth, Shia not Sunni (a rarity nowadays in Palestine but we exist). I make that distiction because Shia are a peaceful sort while the Sunni are more like animals.

What else to call a religious sect in this day & age that murders doctors, scientists, and other successful contributors to a country or gives out bounties for the extermination of entire families as has happened in Palestine, Pakistan and many other countries.

What else to call a country in Palestine unable to just move on. Yes the theft of land never should've happened but it is almost 75 years ago. What are they achieving year after year bickering, fighting and causing conflict. Nothing. Such is the act of a weak bitter country and an entire society that is only capable of striving for anger & hatred.

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The vast problem with Islam is the illiteracy of religious knowledge. Most Sunni Muslims won't read the Qur'an from cover to cover unless they're paid 10,000,000.

Such is why when you look at those involved in ISIS, HAMAS and Palestinians in other countries - or other Muslim protests over the years - in protests they are not doctors, they are not lawyers, they are very often the least educated amongst society.

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In highly Muslim countries mass education & literacy is actually quite limited. If that wasn't the case poverty wouldn't be so high in a large majority of the smaller villages.

Yeah if you google it educational stats say otherwise but that's a gimmick - the same how Chinese by heavy testing send their least skilled students to other countries.

[strateguy632]

i wish but everyone knows hezbolla is shia.

[Anonymous]

Islam might be a beautiful religion but people practicing it are the most dangerous for survival of humankind

If Muslims continue to breed like this then all we'll have are wars, terror attacks, rapes and murders.

They say their aligence lies with Allah but they live without honour and values. Majority of em with a terrorist mindset.

Lately Europe has realised it

Look at Paris today what have they caused

Look at Pakistan Afghanistan a country of terrorist

Look at all the horror terror attacks 9/11 Mumbai attack, and so on.

[AmeerX]

We have corruption problems in my country but certainly not terrorists

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX dude you're whole country harbours terrorist from across the world.
According to my research and common knowledge you are responsible for all terrorist activities in South East Asia specifications India

[AmeerX]

Well believe it 👍

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX facts are facts aren't they
Guess you've got no answer

[AmeerX]

You won't like it but here is my answer.
Pakistani bureaucrats kill and do cruel things and do corruption and US and and London UK countries like Sweden where they stash away their money.
Where do I go? I have sacrificed for my people my time and energy.
Your governments like to hire people from Pakistan and they hate us back home too. They think they are superior and such because they get dollars okay.
I have no quarrel with you. You have so much of your research, at least do some of your own in this matter too. The money we make is siphoned off to Swiss accounts through money laundering and corruption.

South East Asia includes, India Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Maldives, China, Malaysia, Singapore. Yes, we have a quarrel with India on Kashmir but we don't have anything to do with all the others.
Mujahideen were pawns of Americans and we have military governments all the time, is it our fault that Americans keep bailing those illegitimate ones and when our democratic governments come they are toppled.

We have 240 million people here who survive and grow our own food and have area the size of Germany. We don't use as much energy per Capita as Germans or Spanish, we survive with less. More efficient in comparison to wasteful Americans and Europeans.

Our murder rate is 10K per year.

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX alright so you're puppets of Europe and US
Answer honestly why don't we usually come across a Cristian Buddhist Hindu or any such terrorist why only Muslim monopoly
And what do you have to do with Kashmir
Why do you want to invade land of other country
Isn't you're country originally from India
And because of you're Muslim mindset you created a separate country
Poor people of you're look at you now
Shameless

[AmeerX]

Not me, I am free.
1. If you don't see Christian and Hindu extremists then have you forgotten Fascist governments?
2. Kashmir is a Muslim majority region given to us by British partition.
3. Nothing wrong with partition. Hindu government in India is not so secular now. You can go visit. Lots of inter religious fighting there as well. Don't forget India is being pleased because it has money and West just wants to overlook things wrong over there because they want to counter China.
You are just a troll 👍. Habae a nice day

[AmeerX]

IMF can get lost. We are better off defaulted.
Lol you hate pro life people and want to fornicate. Well I don't have anything to do with someone with a racist mind

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX IMF can get lost
You're country would have been in mud if they didn't receive 3 billion dollars from IMF in July
God knows how you'll repay all your loans to chaina IMF and God knows else where

[AmeerX]

Then why do you care. We can think it over after we default. It's not us Pakistanis will clean your bathrooms for money. We have pride 💪. And we will work better without the loans

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX you can't dude
You're the one's cleaning bathroom and stuff all over Saudi and golf countries
Only thing you're good at is incest sex

[AmeerX]

Lol, racist as F you are.

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX No I'm just a girl who knows Muslim mindset

[AmeerX]

Great 👍 another mind reader

[AmeerX]

Lol, you have those step bro jokes and calling us that

[Opinion Owner]

@AmeerX Go to sleep duh

[strateguy632]

they think obeying their book is good not considered murder. they can't murder, they are just defending alla. no sarcasm.

[Opinion Owner]

@strateguy632 lmao 😂

[Drewtate]

I usually wonder what has happened

[AmeerX]

Probably those Israeli YouTube Propagandists 🤣. Only if they spent more time training than photo shooting they would have less casualties

[Drewtate]

@AmeerX more time training? Those Israelis have beaten multiple Muslim armies like bitches. In fact no Muslim army has won a war in a few hundred years, Pakistan for instance has lost every single war in its history

[AmeerX]

True, we haven't win.
But Muslim Armies have indeed won Wars. I think someone skipped history lessons.

[Drewtate]

@AmeerX not in the last few hundred years, that's history

[AmeerX]

Few hundred years is far fetched. If that were true then why is Ottoman Empire dismantled only after WWI?

[Drewtate]

@AmeerX it wasn't dismantled, ot was conquered. Over the last few hundred years of its history the ottoman empire was taken apart piece by piece. When they lost greece they lost all their builders, the Greeks built all those great mosques built by Greek architect Mimar Sinar from the Selimiye Mosque to the Taj Mahal.

[AmeerX]

Lol, Greeks didn't build Taj Mahal😂. Get your facts straight. It was Ustad Ahmed Lohari

[Drewtate]

@AmeerX The students of Mimar Sinan, like Ustad Ahmed Lohari built the Taj Mahal between 1632-1652. Ustad Ahmed Lohari was am ethnic Greek born in the area of the old greek kingdom in India.

[AmeerX]

😂😂😂😂

[Drewtate]

@AmeerX shouldn't have to teach you the history of your own country
upload.wikimedia.org/.../...of_the_Indo-Greeks.png

[Tim2nice]

You’re picking a country which is only 76 years old and has only one enemy and that’s 5 times bigger.

[Drewtate]

@Tim2nice which country? Pakistan? Israel? Iran? Turkey?

[ObscuredBeyond]

The more emphatically they say it, the more terrorists are blackmailing them to downplay the crazy man behind the story, so his criminal connections can slip away.

All media like that operate on corruption. Was in television just long enough to witness that for myself.

[Unit1]

I tend to believe that. Live and let live.

In my experience Muslims are usually pretty kind folks.

Some people only like have a tunnel vision for only the bad stuff and brand it as an average Islamic project.

When I see Iran schools putting the USA and Israel flags on the floor for others to step on, I see that most people are walking around the flags instead of desecrating it.

And then there was this story, where a "Christian" burned the Quran and in response a Muslim in Sweden asked the government for permission to burn the Bible in public, which got approved. Then this Muslim got on the stage with the Bible and started speaking "No. I am better than that" and has not burned the bible.

[strateguy632]

when they are minority they wait until increased before making waves. but they already committed to their book or they wouldn't bd muslim.

[AmeerX]

It's just propaganda really. A propaganda poster 🤣. Now Muslims aren't meant to defend their countries even?

Americans used an actual atomic bomb. Neither Iran nor Pakistan has ever fired one on an enemy nation or for expansionist policies.

Americans used Mujahideen and Taliban to cancel out communism and USSR in Afghanistan and yet people blame Muslims only.

Muslims are at blame for one thing only, they have not developed fast enough. GDP of Muslim countries with exception of Oil producers is far less than world standards.

[Drewtate]

The Taliban were a creation of Pakistan, they didn't exist during the war against the Soviets.
The Mujahideen was largely armed and funded by Muslims, not even Muslim countries but individual Muslims globally, Pakistan did most of their training. The US gave the Mujahideen portable stinger anti air missiles and anti tank missiles to even the odds as Soviet airpower was tearing the mujahadeen up.

[AmeerX]

@Drewtate so US gave them stinger missiles because US was afraid of the Russian bear coming to Afghanistan 🤣

[Drewtate]

Why would the US fear the Russian bear in Afghanistan? We didn't really have a horse in race at the time besides protecting Pakistan? You remember who defeated the Russian bear and how the cold war ended with Russia throwing in the towel.
We gave the mujahadeen stingers and other stuff because we wanted to test new weapons on Soviet aircraft, to make the Soviets bleed and for a little payback for Vietnam. We are doing the same in Ukraine and like in Afghanistan we are showing how weak the Russian bear is.
The fact that you don't understand the Cold war or what is happening now is probably why your country has never won a single war.

[AmeerX]

@Drewtate lol, Pakistan needing defense. That's a good excuse 🤣

[Drewtate]

The Pakistan government were shouting themselves back then. I mean the Pakistani military is so weak

[Lottifan]

Good joke.

what does Islam teach? Go forth and murder innocent women and babies and you’re become a martyr and get 72 precious virgins.

Go forth and breed like rabbits.

Muslims want world domination.

Dress your women like postboxes.

[BCA6010]

I think they haven't been around that part of the world much if at all. Peace is pretty relative, especially when a huge swath of that culture doesn't even recognize certain people as even being people and equates committing genocide against such people to a farmer butchering livestock. The basic understanding of morality is significantly different, and the people defending other people who are openly calling for their extermination fail to understand this.

[Blueeyes81]

That's like judging all of Christianty by the action of the pedo priests. Or Tim McVeigh. Or the Branch Dividians.

People often look at the extremes of other religions but make excuses for their own. Your average Muslim and Christian are not the sums of the extremes.

[strateguy632]

the difference is, which of those two bads, does bad while claiming to obey god by it.

[Blueeyes81]

@strateguy632 both

[strateguy632]

to @Blueeyes81 remember you wrote about pedo, that evil doer isn't doing that to obey his holy book. that never instructed that. in contrast to the "recruiting sources" in the book of submission to which people. mindlessly submitted as taught. now i submit this reply

[OddBeMe]

Well…most Muslims live in the west. So by that metric you could say it’s peaceful.

BUT, when they’re in power in a theocracy, like most of the Mid East, it’s a shit show. But again, that’s like maybe a quarter or third of the worlds Muslims in the mid east.

So I don’t know. And Christianity had its opportunity to modernize during the Renaissance. Bedouin Saudis basically rolled back the clock on Muslim modernity. They went from inventing geometry to shitting in rivers.

[Starrrboy]

When someone says that I just think of them as someone really stupid with zero survival instincts and I wouldn't take them seriously.. calling them ignorant would be a compliment lol..

[DextroShade]

I say they are covering for the terrorists. Notice how they don't go out of their way to say this about other religions such as Buddhism or Christianity that are objectively more peaceful than Islam.

[sean1234]

That the ones of that , that are considered evil, do so from the words in their own Koran, words others ignor or don't read... from what I've heard anyways.

[strateguy632]

that is how they recruit, and the reason use islam in the names of their gangs.

[strateguy632]

a translation trick. two words sound same in arabic but different meaning. salam is peace islam is "submit" just sound same so useful for propaganda.

[petera1987]

Yes, the religion of peace. A piece here, a piece over there... body parts all over the place!

[AviatorTom]

There are fanatics in every religion. Think Crusades, for example. That doesn't mean the religion is not peaceful.

[ObscuredBeyond]

The first two Crusades were limited, defensive campaigns after 600 years of unchallenged Ottoman aggression. The latter crusades were about money, not religion. Which is why, especially with the Reformation, religious outside the Catholic Church lost respect for the crusades. And the financiers discovered that colonization of underdeveloped lands elsewhere was more profitable than fighting the Ottoman Empire.

[strateguy632]

the difference is the crusades weren't instructed by their holy book in contrast to... you know, i can't say.

[ObscuredBeyond]

@strateguy632 : Defending innocents from Ottoman depravity is Biblical. Even if the Ottomans themselves aren't mentioned by name. Stopping the Ottomans from pillaging, sex trafficking, etc., is purging the evil from among you.

Becoming pillagers back, because those involved in war financing want to get richer, is not Biblical. It's thuggery with extra steps, wrapped in religious robes. Those financiers are the original war industrial complex, and were just as bad as the Ottomans.

Kings should have beheaded them long before their industry morphed into what it currently is under John Bolton, Chuck Schumer, etc.

However, kings found these men convenient as they always engineered ways to invent lifestyle extravagance excuses. Whenever the budget came up, just start another pointless war to distract everyone!

[strateguy632]

@ObscuredBeyond i accept your ciew here.

[strateguy632]

view=ciew

[Dargil]

Read the second half of the Koran and get back to me.

[turnpost]

And you think every other religion is a religion of Peace. Islam is as peaceful as any other religion.

[Grognard]

I think it's a good joke.

[Jerre]

I say Bullshit!

[Jerre]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy Thank you for the Like

[WhiteBoyChill]

I love that cartoon. 😂😂

[Massageman]

A piece of this, a piece of that?

[Masterodd]

Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahah...

[BLP11520]

Well , I go by their actions