Pastor is accusing me of being a witch , Are religious people narcissistic more toxic then normal people?

[Anonymous]

During the pandemic a friend of mine I met in the hospital invited me to her pentecostal church. At first it was in zoom I didn't have much tough about it just a normal chruch. Until a few weeks ago a friend of mineon here send me information about the lies of pentecostal the more I investigate I found more clear answers. Now I wear pants , basic make up at the same time I still dress modestly. Out of bo where the pastor make up a lie rumors and people in the congergation that I was involved in witch carft pagan arts and that my lifestyle is worldly and that I am a witch. I am not a witch I have no idea or never experienced pagan or how it works. I've been slander. People who I tough were my friends cameover to my house lie to me telling me we were going to read the bible and sing worthship songs lies the pastor and ladies all got ina circle told me to sit inthe middle started speaking in tongue yelling at me punching me and saying I am demonic possess. I tough thos people were my friends I was betrayed. I call the cops my left eye is broused. Now I am moving because pastor keeps nocking at my door whe the police are working and gathering more information as much as possible. I no longer want to practice religion I will never enter a church.

[Lliam]

I am so sorry that you encountered such freaks. I hope you get enough evidence to put them away.

I've read about the founding of Pentecostalism and other Christian sects.

Benny Hinn is a Pentecostal preacher who has become unbelievably wealthy at the expense of gullible believers. A total charlatan.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/a54iqEr1flQ

I have studied the history of the Bible, Christianity and Judaism, world religions (ancient and modern), mythology, cultural anthropology, some philosophy and psychology, etc., and come to the conclusion that religion fills a human need but is man-made.

The gods must be angry to create storms, floods, droughts, earthquakes and volcanoes.

Every single culture has some form of religion. It cracks me up that the creation myth that a primitive tribe from Arabia (Hebrews) borrowed from powerful Mesopotamian cultures of the time is believed by many to be "the one, true religion", and that all of the translations of the Bible are the actual word of/from "God".

My own spiritual values involve nothing more than deep respect, reverence, gratitude and awe for all creation, including microbes, trees, animals and people, even water, earth, air, and celestial bodies. Everything is miraculous. Did a supernatural entity set it all in motion? I don't know. But I am extremely skeptical of the existence of a supreme being that favors humans. Does nature favor the predator or the prey? No. But humans imagine themselves to be special, so they create deities in their own image. They imagine gods that are like human kings, only they are all powerful. Humans fear, worship and obey their gods and are, in turn, promised reward or punishment. But who tells humans what the gods want? Oh yeah, humans who claim to communicate with the gods and have exclusive knowledge. LOL

I have read the idea by Alfred North Whitehead and others that every creature, even the lowliest, is the universe observing itself. I like that idea. Does that mean that the universe is prescient? I don't know. But I sure don't believe that it plays favoritism toward humans.

I guess all this makes me a "pagan". LOL

[Daniela1982]

@lliamGod made animals as we needed something to eat, to use as labor, and for both good or bad. We would never have survived without them for clothing or food. Imagine trying to settle in Oregon from New York without oxen or horses. Animals were also used for sacrifices to atone for man's sin in the early days. Even today with all the animals we have - did you know there are more chickens than people on earth? - we still cannot feed everyone and hundreds die each day from starvation. And just remember, a fish is an animal too.

[Lliam]

@Daniela1982. Humans are omnivores. I eat meat. But I still have respect, gratitude and love for animals. I despise the way factory farms treat them.

[Lionman95]

Sorry to hear about what happened to you. I would say that Pentecostals have a reputation of being the most weird form of Christianity since many Pentecostals put special emphasis on spiritual things that can have an esoteric touch from time to time. Many of them speculate arguing the Spirit is telling them but there´s no authority besides them to evaluate that.
Therefore alone from what you describe I can tell you went to a pentecostal church. To answer your question I would since many people are religious there are surely toxic and narcisstic people around them but I wouldn´t say that all Christians are narcisstic and toxic.

[Daniela1982]

@Lionman95 The people she is talking about are fraudsters, in it for money and not for God. What's sad is that everyone judges Christians by these Bozo's actions. Unfortunately, lot of people are fooled by these charlatans because they don't read the Bible and rely on what these clowns say as truth, not what God says.

[Lionman95]

That's for sure they are frauds. I didn't mean to say that every every pentecostal is like that but I've only heard and experienced pentecostal doing weird activities. I'm also a Christian by the way.

[Daniela1982]

Never been to a Pentecostal church so have no clue. I was raised Baptist.

[Asker]

@Daniela1982 Are you a pastor?

[Daniela1982]

The Bible forbids women to be pastors. So no. But we can be teachers.

[Daniela1982]

This almost sounds like a fake story. But then there are plenty of people out there who do not follow the Bible. These people belong in Salem with their witch trials. Also, speaking in tongues is not Biblical unless there is someone there to interpret what they are saying. It was seen in the Old Testament but is no longer applied in today's world. Most of the speaking in tongues today is fake, as it is supposed to be in an unknown language and there has to be someone that can interpret it. This church, by their actions, seems to be fake and run by a mad man doing Satan's bidding. The sad thing is that lots of people can be fooled, as you can see by the Jim Jones mass suicides, and Heaven's Gate cult. Heaven's Gate was an American new religious movement (often described as a cult) whose members committed mass suicide in 1997. It was founded in 1974 and led by Bonnie Nettles (1927–1985) and Marshall Applewhite. They believed that they would be taken to Heaven on a comet that was passing by. All these kooks make it tough for actual Christians who truly believe in God and His plan of free salvation.

[Asker]

Believe me Iwish it was a fake story. This pastor even gets abgry when people participate in other pentecostal churchs. He went of on a brother for calling for help to other pastors when this brother was experiencing hardship in a point in his life. I understand tithing is a must which is understandable but a sister in need was about to loose her home and yet the pastor demanded she put down monet to buold a new parking lot. A lot of church members put money down fornthis parking lot he clain it was going to cost $25 , 000 . They havea huge parking lot. Later the pastor chnaged his mind and decided changed of plans no more parking lot. And jept the money.

[Daniela1982]

Sounds like some people need to go to the police as this is fraud. This pastor is a flim flam man, not a pastor of God. 🙄🤡

[Jessica405]

Get the hell away from these UNCHRISTIAN people!

There is a saying, " montey is the root of all evil".

I would rewrite that as "RELIGION is the root of all evil.

That pastor is showing his ignorance be denouncing Paganism. It is certainly not evil, unlike these people harassing you.

by the way, I am Pagan.

[Asker]

Thank you you are way more kind and sweet then all of this so called christians. Your words made my day happy. Yes I left for good. I have realized so call christians are way more evil then pagan. I am nice to every one an I like to respect people.

[Jessica405]

Thank you. Sadly, I ssay the whole Christian church, and all other religions, are based on a myth. Paganism is not a religion. It is only a way of living. Treating the earth and nature with respect.

[Lliam]

I agree with you, Jessica. My spiritual views align with how you described paganism.

[jshm2]

Don't be such a jackass.

Either the pastor has got the hots for you and is trying to break you down, or you've pissed off a "friend" and they're seeking revenge.

Either way it's nothing to do with religion or church and just people being assholes.

You need to collect all evidence of abuse and communication. Make two copies, and head over to the cops to file a report. Get a camera if you need to record what's happening.

[Asker]

Thank you yes Iam collection all the advie. I do have camaras in my home. I did see pastor throwing olive oil at my porch.

[Hammertimeguy]

Asker SHUT UR MOUTH!
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSED A MEN OF GOD! YOU WILL BURN IN HELL!

[Hammertimeguy]

ASKER IS THE MAIN PROBLEM!

WE CHRISTIANS WE ARE GOOD PEOPLE OF THE LORD!
I CAN SPEAK IN TOUNGES!

I'M A GOOD CHRISTIAN!

YOU ARE WORLDLY REPENT FROM YOU'RE SIN'S!

[Lliam]

@Hammertimeguy. Sounds like you are possessed by demons. No Christian would speak to someone the way you just did.

[strateguy632]

punch? hard to believe.

but you can tell them, "if i was witch i could save myself, proving not a witch."

any witch they managed to burn couldn't be a real witch , because a real witch would have power and not get caught.

[Anonymous]

I’m very sorry that this happened to you, and speaking as a Christian, I’m sorry that this was your experience when it came to attending Church. Pentecostals are only one denomination, and even then, many other denominations question the validity of their faith and practices because of the churches that allow this type of behavior. Some, like the ones described here, have an unhealthy obsession with the demonic. Or an unhealthy obsession with “speaking in tongues” while not having anyone to interpret the tongues.
I do hope this experience hasn’t turned you away from ever wanting to attend a church again, but I do think this particular one is best left behind.

[sean1234]

They be hypocrites. Speaking in false tongues. They are fake Christians. Tongues are very real languages. DONT BE SCARED AWAY FROM DEMONICALLY POSESSED CHRISTIANS!

To be honest your story sounds crazy, them calling you a which when you clearly are not?🤔. They sound EXTREMELY hypocritical.

[AngryCarl]

That's not normal behaviour even for church folks. Well Pentecostalists maybe, they're fucking crazy.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/rbWyScLYy6I

[Anonymous]

Why would he come out and say something like this? How well does this man know you what exactly did you do or say something must’ve been brought up for a reason

[Opinion Owner]

Where there is smoke there is fire,

[Opinion Owner]

You don’t know what you’re talking about I’m a good Christian shame on you

[Opinion Owner]

I’m saved

[Asker]

How so?

[Opinion Owner]

Stop trolling you don’t even know me

[DagonbroughtMehere]

"God save us from those who think They are doing Your Work."

[Dongie]

Only the hierarchy of the Catholic church

[Asker]

Hypocrite get out

[Dongie]

Make me

[Hammertimeguy]

You are possed by demons!