1 yThe gist of it remains the same, but yes, it has out of necessity. When an entire scripture or words are added into translations (that don't exist in the copies of the ancient text) a decision has to be made about if an adjustment is needed, or if the addition conveys the meaning more accurately.
The best way to read the Bible is to look for themes and patterns, not read it literally. For example, I know very few fellow believers who think Jesus rode into Jerusalem on a donkey and her colt, at the same time...(Matthew 21:1-7, depending on the version). Some people would use that as an example of a contradiction, since the other gospels don't say two. However, the point is that he went into Jerusalem for Passover, not that he rode two animals at the same time. The point isn't how many, it's whether he did or didn't ride the animal consistent with Jewish prophecy. It's like when we say we love ice cream. We don't literally love ice cream, but we are expressing that it makes us feel good.
There are lots of things like that in the Bible. For example, one of the biggest reasons (if not the main reason) Christians walk away from the faith is evolution, particularly if they were brought up with a strong Young Earth worldview. They encounter the evidence for evolution and they either have to say "Lalalalala, I hear nothing" or they have to say "Maybe the message of the text isn't 'how long' ", but "In the beginning, God created...".
The point is that the Bible cannot be read effectively without two other essential components in place: The Holy Spirit and fellow believers (a local church assembly).
The Holy Spirit (The Comforter, John 14:26) teaches us as Jesus would and brings conviction and comfort.
Fellow believers hold us accountable and challenge us with love if we make claims about what the Holy Spirit (or the Bible) told us that are inconsistent with the character of Christ. The first and truest evidence of a true believer is love (agape). Galatians 5:22-25 "But the fruit (evidence) of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness and self-control...".
Hopefully this helps. :D
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1 yThere are translation disagreements according to certain types of interpretive exegetical schools of thought, between the different books. There are also verbal transitions imputed to account for the multi century evolutions of language over the years, and this is unavoidable because the original bible was in Aramaic and possibly Hebrew. The bible is a metaphysical and conundrum level document as well as a grace of both direct and multi tiered social commentary in singular segmented havens so it's categorical dimensions cannot be judged or degraded based on the precision of it's overall grammatical consistency between books.
Also, I don't write like this in school - I used more lucid language, but I think it's okay to take liberties when I'm not being graded on my speech.
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1 yOh, you poor, misguided soul, still clinging to the notion that the Bible hasn't been tainted by the lustful desires of the flesh? Have you not heard the whispers of those who have delved into the dark and forbidden world of anal sex?
The pages of the good book, once pristine and pure, are now sullied by the sticky fingerprints of a congregation driven by carnal lust. The paper, once thin and delicate, has become thick and pulpy, stained with the sins of those who have found a new, depraved interpretation.
The stories of virgins and saints give way to tales of wanton women, their eyes sparkling with sinful delight as they welcome the throbbing members of well-endowed angels into their awaiting orifices. The Virgin Mary herself is depicted with a sultry smile, her eyes half-lidded as she cradles the Christ child, who, with a mischievous glint in his eye, offers not salvation but orgasmic release.
The parables of Jesus take on a whole new meaning as he preaches not of love and forgiveness but of the ecstasy found in the union of flesh. His disciples, once humble followers, now sport erections that would put the mighty redwoods to shame, their eyes wild with the promise of unholy pleasures.
The Book of Revelation becomes a steamy tale of apocalyptic proportions, where the battle between good and evil is fought not with swords and shields but with cock and cunt, the winners claiming their prize in a glorious orgy that would make Sodom and Gomorrah blush.
Oh, the Bible has changed indeed, my naive one. It has become a manual for the sexually frustrated, a guide to exploring the darkest, most taboo desires. The pages drip with descriptions of unholy horrors, cocks so massive they stretch the limits of human anatomy, and souls tortured by the exquisite agony of never-ending orgasms.
If you dare to open the pages of this corrupted good book, prepare yourself for a journey into the depths of depravity, where the only salvation is found in the throes of unholy, mind-shattering ecstasy. Amen.
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1 yYes, my Mistress, being a modern-day embodiment of discipline and control, has adapted biblical themes in her own unique way. While metes out divine judgment, she uses punishment as a tool for shaping my behavior and ensuring my unwavering devotion. These punishments are not acts of malice but rather expressions of love and a desire to refine me into the perfect submissive.
For instance, just as the Israelites were sometimes required to fast as a form of penance, I might be denied certain pleasures, such as orgasm, to remind me of my subservient state and foster humility. Similarly, the idea of physical correction found in Proverbs is reflected in my Mistress's use of spankings or whipings, which serve as both a physical reminder of my mistakes and a stimulus for self-improvement. And, just as the Lord rained down sulfur and fire upon Sodom and Gomorrah, so my Mistress pegs me with no lubrication and whips me until my ass is on fire.
Mistress's punishments often incorporate elements of sensory deprivation, like blindfolds or full-head hoods, echoing the biblical notion of being "in the dark" or "blind" without divine guidance. By doing so, she trains me to trust her implicitly, just as one trusts in God's plan.
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1 yIt has always changed. The first few books are referred to w/ Greek term Septuagint as they identified at least seven different writers. ( The 1st book "Genesis that two completely different creation myths, one after another. None of the four gospel writers was even alive at the historical time of Jesus. Almost all of what is written in the Christian new testament is based on the writings of the Roman Paul. Jon was an artistically written story until someone with inferior writing ( and thinking) abilities so the middle is a well written and thought through discourse while a bit of the beginning and most of the end reads like a 3rd rate Danielle Steele novel.
There is nothing sacrilegious about this but it differs from say the Koran which is considered a 'closed book" meaning it is a record of what Gabriel said to to Mohammed and cannot be changed. If you read the apostles, they recount historical events completely differently. In the early 20th century the dead sea scrolls caused major revisions in thought stressing the validity of Thomas the Gnostic and the so-called desert Christians above Iraneus and the Orthodox church.11 Reply- 1 y
everyone has an opinion most opinions are wrong...
1, you think septuagint is like September 7, 7 authors? nope 7 translators! flavius recorded 70 translators divided the many books to translate the many books and chapters quickly.
2, the 2 creations are not "completely different" the second simply ADDS details to the first.
find me even one conflict!
The "Living Word" hasn't changed, but it's open to misinterpretation.
"The letter kills but the spirit gives life" (2Cor. 3:4-6) refers to the notion that laws have two sides: "the letter of the law" (written words) and "the spirit of the law" (intention/interpretation) ...10 ReplyNope. The evidence is solid to show it has been preserved. There are cases where certain scribes made small mistakes, but there are numerous other copies that carry the original text which allows bible scholars to trace the truth, identify small errors and classify them as such.
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1 yThe interpretations certainly have, but for the OT we have the meticulousness of the scribes and the Septuagint to give us as indication that the message has been faithfully transcribed.
With the NT there and thousands and thousands of manuscripts, codices, and fragments, as well as early extra-biblical writings to again show the accuracy of transmission. Yes, there are disputed variants, but none that alters the essential message.20 Reply
1 yOf course it has, multiple times. It’s all due to intentional translation errors. The word “homosexual” didn’t appear in the bible until 1946, during a huge lavender scare, and they used it to replace the word that meant pedophile. It was a targeted, intentional mistranslation meant to validate the religious community’s homophobia at the time. Any English translation of the bible can’t be fully trusted.
00 Reply567 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. Depends on which one. The KJV Bible is relatively unchanged as far as the English language in concerned. It says that John the baptist ate locusts and honey which is acctually not correct because the greek texts to English translates locusto to the Carob bean which is actually a chocholate alternative. They sort of left the word untranslated making it into him eating a insect.
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1 yThe history of the Bible is filled with changes, language translations, and modernizations, mostly to make it easier for people to read and understand it.
Note that different parts of the Bible were originally written in several different languages, some that no longer exist.
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which language no longer exists hebrew or greek?
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@strateguy632 I think some of the original text was in Aramaic, which no longer exists, and Ancient Greek is not the same as modern Greek
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to @AviatorTom the words in aramaic are with the meaning in the text "almta kumi meaning girl stand."
greek has the same words, then and now, and even the ancient pronunciation was preserved.
despite modern greek differs.
you think bible colleges do not study biblical greek? - 1 y
@strateguy632 Of course biblical scholars study biblical Greek. But the average person doesn't, instead relying on the words in their modern English (or whatever language they speak) Bible. It's very well known that the meanings of words change when they are translated from one language to another. What one English-speaking person believes a particular Bible passage means can be very different from what a Spanish-person believes the same passage means.
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@Dongie I'm not sure that's correct. Some Bibles have been translated from another modern language. For example, the Afrikaans Bible was translated from the Dutch Bible.
1 yIt probably has. Things get misinterpreted over time, no one really knows who wrote it and why. There are so many different theories about the events portrayed in the Bible and who Jesus Christ really was.
I do not know if you are religious or not but scientists think the parting of the sea was either a tsunami or drought. The Star of David was Jupiter and the Wise Men were astrologers.
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1 yThe bible never changes cause it's the word of god and the life of jesus and his teachings, so it's the humans who are in constant changes, it's the humans who are trying to change it, it's the humans who are fighting it and it's the humans who wants to end it!
Anyways, the bible is here to remain forever and no one in the world can eliminate the word of god no matter how hard they try!
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But how come everyone interprets it differently? Or how over the phase of countless translations, sentences and meanings got lost? Im pretty sure you ain't ever read the bible in its original language hebrew either.
Then you have the next issue how much was mouth to mouth back then when writing was a very rare skill only the wealthy could afford to learn? If you ever played silent post you should know how much gets lost or changed after only 2-3 human ears.
If the bible holds true and the stories there happend in the timeframe it depicts then multiple Generations passed until it was written down meaning the original meaning, words and stories dont exist anymore and are heavily changed. - 1 y
@Nirmroth times in the past were different than now and big things in life could be changed between a listener and another plus the bible was written by the disciples of jesus, i agree that there are some misenterpratations but the essence and actions are all real and that's what matters and believe me if the bible had lost it's meaning through time, god would of done anything to make it right again!
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But god didn't do anything for over ~298000 years of human history and then only revaeled himself to a small part of arabic people. Why not to the whole world as a whole? All the wonders and stories are strangely only centered in that small part of the world. Why did he allow other religions to flourish and establish themselves? I can appreciate religion as spiritual guide through life but espacially with the old ones they ain't really up to date anymore compared how we Life now vs how people lived ~2000 years ago
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@Nirmroth as you can see a lot of people around then whole world believes in god and he chose the place where it was the center of all the civilizations so that his teachings can reach everyone...
Now about an update, this ain't an app, the word of god do not need any upgrade, he taught everything that you need to be taught and show you the way to salvation, god ain't going to come back now to tell you if there are aliens or how to build a spaceship with warp speed 😄
He did gave you a brain, a smart one which can always be upgraded so you explore the world, so it's us who needs an upgrade to our brains, not the word of god...
If you measure yourself on the scale of the word of god, you will find that the majority of people are very low, especially these days! - 1 y
What about china then? Or rome? This was far from the center of civilization which by the way shifted a lot trough the ages. Like how egypt was long considered the most advanced civ before christus yet suprisingly god didn't make a move.
you're right this isn't an app but written words by human hands and minds that have lived over 2000 years ago in a whole different society and quality of life. What was important for people 2000 years in the past can't possible allign with the realities and procress of the 21th century.
So are you saying in that second last Paragraph that god word is not needed as we have a brain to think for ourselves? Why the bible then? - 1 y
@Nirmroth look it's a matter of faith not lab experiences where i can make a test to prove it for you, i'm also not a bible scholar!
God gave you brain to think, feel and learn, why the bible? It's because without a bible, you're brain will be blank and will never be able to distinguish the bad from the good, plus you won't be able to livd a proper life! - 1 y
@Nirmroth santa claus was real, he is saint nicholas but they made a story out of his works and charities suitable for kids haha
No bible means no good and no evil, no bible means no nothing, it means our lives aren't special and without meaning, plus without the bible we as humans are no longer humans, we would be animals, intelligent animals, nothing more!
Why would i want to deny a fact, god and jesus are real, why will i try my best to convince people that they don't exists!
I'm a believer and will never change that! - 1 y
Im talking about the person coca cola made for 24th not the saint for the 6th of decembre.
Yes life is without a meaning. You yourself can shape it. there's no hell or heaven waiting for you just the same nothingness you were in all the time before you were born.
It isn't a fact, facts can be prooven by science and you yourself said that belief isn't a lab experiment.
However what is a fact is that the old Testament was written by exiled/captured isralis in babylon to combat the faith of the babylons and give the exiled israelis hope by claiming this happend once before (moses). Over time more stories were written and collected as you know the bible was not written at once but multiple short stories from multiple authors choosen and collected into one book by cardinals in rome. Kinda like a fantasy book which is very popular and fan lore gets added to it over the years.
Jesus was real but its highly doubted he ever did those wonders as the base the bible itself is just an invention by struggling isrelis
1K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. The “original” -as they claim- was lost after translation from Greek. So all we have is a translation of the gospels. And “lost in translation” is an actual issue between languages.
And since it’s been translated -then rewritten by King James? yeah it’s changed00 Reply1.4K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. The Bible is not a single entity. Some translations are too "interpretive". Others are more " literal". Good to use a parallel Bible that compares literal to interpretive. I have a NASB/NIV.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yVery little. It's funny I was reading an article of them finding an early Christian Bible and they said it was remarkable how accurate it was to today's Bible.
I understand, it's logical to think that a word changed here or thier when books get translated over the centuries from language to language that the meaning of some text might change.
00 Reply694 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. This "Bible" gutter trash, has always been and will always be a complete and utter load of fucking Bollox.
@sean1234 Now 619 times!
00 ReplyUndoubtedly but from when are you thinking? It was obviously copied and translated and in translation just choosing the appropriate is going to be a change.
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1 yOf course it has!! Mistranslation, editing, choice of chapters by committee. Its the least reliable book out there!
10 Reply No, it has NOT changed. It's A LIVING BIBLE.
It's society that has changed!11 Reply- 1 y
Well said miss sage!
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1 ywe have old documents for example text receptus so we see the story never changed
00 Reply The Bible itself has never changed and the JND version and the KJ V well represent the Bible some of ghe new more modern versions have changed the meaning to much of the Bible.
00 Reply443 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. The Bible has been edited and rewritten like 400 times, it's a bunch of holy hogwash
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you fulfilled here, " 1Co 1:18, the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved, it is the power of God." fulfilled.
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@strateguy632 I didn't need to be "saved". I can save myself by not being a shit bag.
Anonymous(30-35)1 yyeah it's changed to become more "liberal friendly" and tolerant of behaviors we shouldn't be tolerant of
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maybe the pope but not the book!
Anonymous(25-29)1 yFrom aramatic to Greek and Latin to English, French and German yeah
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yIt's been rewritten over and over... it's documented as changed.
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the opposite we have old manuscripts.
1 yYeah. Of course.
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I don't think Bible has beden changed
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Has been*
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Okay, I said what I know.
yea it has changed a lot over the centuries
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1 yIt has.
I stick to KJV and NIV, tho.00 Reply- 1K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic.
1 yWhy would that matter?
10 Reply 1K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. It looks the same to me.
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1 ynope, still the same many centuries later
00 ReplyYes. Because it was written by men
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00 Reply 3.4K opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. Yeah, it has, a lot
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1 yWhat version 😊
10 ReplyNope
20 ReplyWhy would I?
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1 yObviously.
00 Reply772 opinions shared on Religion & Spirituality topic. Change what?
00 ReplyDefinitely yes
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so any examples?
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of course not just a blind guess "definitely".
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@strateguy632 You cannot go to a priest and get rid of the sins you want. Only God who creates sins forgives them, not God's creations.
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