Christian, especially Catholics, is he right? Any other denominations or sects have an opinion? Atheists?

[DrPepper12]

BREAKING: Pope Leo today: "Someone who says I’m against abortion but is in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life."

Ponificus Maximus is da man! Right on bruh!

Popes are fallable. Don't believe what the nuns told ya!

It's complicated & morality is not absolute

Guilty? Ride the ⚡!! Aborted a kid? Ask for a 🚬 & blindfold!

[MisterWack]

Pope Leo today: "Someone who says I’m against abortion but is in favor of the death penalty is not really pro-life."

He is just showcasing hypocrisy, I don’t think he is saying anything other than “if you were pro life you’d be against both”. Which is debatable, since a lot of people could see one, but not the other for a variety of factors.

Personally, I am in favor of a woman’s right to choose especially in cases of rape, incest, birth control / contraceptive failures, partner left them, doctors say they aren’t in good shape to carry to term, disease, etc.

I am rocky on the relationship of the death penalty and have been for a long time.
My debate class in Highschool provided good points of perspective on both sides and the teachers played videos in favor of death penalty and against which yielded great information so I’m torn. I’m personally leaning towards against, I could switch back the other way depending on how much new information comes to me.

[DrPepper12]

That's a very astute mature answer. What are you doing on GaG? 😯

[MisterWack]

@DrPepper12 I wasn’t always Mature in that case….
(Personal reflection, not a critique of your response)

[HighValue]

It isn't the same thing and anyone that isn't a liar would agree. Death penalty for someone's actions is totally different than killing someone that has done nothing wrong. Only liars disagree.

by the way, Catholics are NOT Christians. They are VERY different.

[Friendlybro79]

Interesting and always funny to me. I know this isn't every Christian, but many that I know, think they're the correct Christian and everyone else is wrong.

1.3-1.4 billion Catholics, around a billion protestants. Then you got branches from their, then the born agains who are all sure every one of you fake Christians are all going to hell.

[HighValue]

Have you read the Bible? Can't pray to saints or be doing chants for actual Christians. Can't pay money for forgiveness either. Those are all common practices for Catholics. Also, the Pope has no moral or religious authority according to the Bible.

[Friendlybro79]

I haven't read every page. I am just asking a general question. It's just interesting. If you were to share your sect another one would potentially say something to you that would lead them to believe you're wrong too. I definitely don't mean this an argument or attack on you at all. Just an observation I've noticed. Many Christians think other Christians are fake or just wrong.

[Danzigdawson]

@HighValue OMFG go back to the 16th century when that debate was pertinent. All denominations of christianity are equally worthless and damaging to society.

[HighValue]

@Danzigdawson 1. You are a disgusting POS. 2. Catholics are NOT Christians. Only a moron like you would think they are.

[Danzigdawson]

Hail satan! 🤘🤘🤘🖕🖕🖕

[Danzigdawson]

@HighValue Seriously, if all of you christian losers could move back to the distant century where you belong, that'd be great.

[DrPepper12]

@Danzigdawson WELL SAID SIR!!!

[DrPepper12]

Catholics ARE Christian
To deny that umbrella label is just disingenuous & false.

[DrPepper12]

@Danzigdawson YAAAASS!!! Let's eat babies & summon demons!!!

[Amy10223]

He is absolutely right. And anyone who is for owning guns is the same. Not prolife.

[DrPepper12]

I'm ok with owning guns. It's not related to his point.

[Amy10223]

You're okay with it--I'm not, because if the case was no one could own a gun but well trained policemen and soldiers--we would not have the problems with gun shootings here in schools, churches, and other places. Gun ownership is too lenient here.

[Anonymous]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[DrPepper12]

Indeed.

[Ariesman81]

Tough one for sure. Abortion is straight up murder as the act is done upon someone without free will. Killing a murderer I believe to be justified societal self defense. Would I want the authority to make such a call as to put a man to death... not without glaringly clear and obvious proof.

[Danzigdawson]

@ariesman81 An embryo isn't "someone". Same goes for spermatozoons and eggs.

[Ariesman81]

@Danzigdawson

Is parasite a term you're more comfortable with

[Danzigdawson]

I can see you identify as a parasite, for sure.

[Ariesman81]

Life begins at conception. Best get use to it.

[Danzigdawson]

When exactly does god inject a soul as he watches two people fucking? Please tell me the exact moment when a spermatozoon and an egg becomes a person with a soul, a personality and feelings. Is it during fertilization? During the cleavage phase? Compaction? Differentiation? Cavitation? Bilaminar disc formation? At which point during the carnegie stages does a clump of cells becomes a "person"? How many cell divisions before it stop beings just cells?

Wouldn't you agree that each spermatozoon and each egg is, in fact, part of a human being, according to your stupid beliefs? If you have jizzed just once in your life, you've killed hundreds of millions of half-human beings you fucking genocidal monster!

Life is already there before conception. An embryo or a fetus is not a "human being" and neither are an egg an a sperm. Deal with it and join the rest of the world into reality.

[Ariesman81]

College educated?

[DrPepper12]

Nope. Not according to the O. T.

[Danzigdawson]

@ariesman81 No, cultural-marxist training school no. 607-3. Did you know they just strap us onto chairs in there and force us to look at a hammer and sickle emblem all day?

It's almost as bad as being brainwashed into believing in god from an age when you're so impressionable it becomes a deep-rooted belief that's almost impossible to shake...

[Ariesman81]

@Danzigdawson

Don't be ridiculous. The Devil is far more cunning than to be so obvious. Was probably dressed as your female biology professor who had just come from the abortion clinic.

[Danzigdawson]

The devil is indeed cunning: he's managed to fool billions of idiots that he was actually a bearded god up in the skies for millenia. If you're all about evil and cruelty, that's a great way to make people kill each other over silly stupid bullshit.

[Ariesman81]

Silly stupid bullshit? Like the murder of an unborn defenseless child? Yeah, I think someone who condones that should be killed.

[Sal_Monella]

Catholics are Christians. Along with Orthodox, They are the earliest Christians. They have the Christian message, Although some councils of men have added doctrine to it, that I have not read in the Bible. Many denominations do that. Sometimes they argue about the color of the piano.

[DrPepper12]

Or use of icons. Worship or veneration? You decide!

[LiamJHayden]

Hard to see how that logically follows. While I do not think government should be involved in abortion, there cannot be any serious consideration that the fetus is a criminal who committed a crime, while the same cannot be said of someone who hogties the husband then rapes the wife and older daughters and murders them in front of him, and finally burns the house down with the still tied now widower and the smaller children inside, burning them to death.

[DrPepper12]

Oddly specific. I like that. Shows true rigor (and planning which is good if you don't wanna get caught & meet JC too early)

[BCRanger10]

Many of his predecessors, moral theologians, and philosophers (many of whom are canonized saints) would disagree.

[DrPepper12]

They'd be wrong

[BCRanger10]

Why?

[DrPepper12]

I'm infallible

[BCRanger10]

You're a looney.

[DrPepper12]

Say 10 Hail Marys and I'll forgive you

[BCRanger10]

Or what? I can never have Dr. Pepper with my whiskey again?

[exitseven]

I had high hopes for the new Pope = After I saw him bless a big chunk of ice (I am not making this up) I began to have my doubts..

[DrPepper12]

So disagree.

[RedInnocent69]

Well, he’s not wrong. The Church’s evolving view on abortion, which has become more conservative, not less, is problematic though

[Pterodon]

Just like someone who says they’re catholic like Biden but still endorses abortion isn’t really catholic

[DrPepper12]

IDGAF if he's a Pastafarian!!
Death penalty is murder. Abortion is health care

[Anonymous]

nope. the death penalty is justice

abortion is just flat-out murder. calling abortion healthcare is like calling sex trafficking free transportation