Do you think that Atheists will go to heaven or have an afterlife?

[TonyMetal___86]

Jews, Christians, Muslims and everyone who believes in God, do you think that these people will rise from the dead 🤔

[indissoluble]

Why would atheists that oppose God be saved by God? If you reject God, there is nothing God can do to save you. You have refused salvation through your own free will... As God told me... "sorry, you can not help them"...

If you want to look at false religions like Islam...

Muslims believe everyone goes to hell and the space remaining in hell is filled up by Allah's stinky foot. They believe their only way out of hell is the sacrifice of Jews and Christians to take their place in hell.

When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.

https://sunnah.com/muslim/50/57-60

Everyone will be brought to Hell, then the Righteous will be saved

https://quranx.com/Tafsir/Kathir/19.71

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Paradise and the Fire (Hell) argued, and the Fire (Hell) said, "I have been given the privilege of receiving the arrogant and the tyrants.' Paradise said, 'What is the matter with me? Why do only the weak and the humble among the people enter me?' On that, Allah said to Paradise. 'You are My Mercy which I bestow on whoever I wish of my servants.' Then Allah said to the (Hell) Fire, 'You are my (means of) punishment by which I punish whoever I wish of my slaves. And each of you will have its fill.' As for the Fire (Hell), it will not be filled till Allah puts His Foot over it whereupon it will say, 'Qati! Qati!' At that time it will be filled, and its different parts will come closer to each other; and Allah will not wrong any of His created beings. As regards Paradise, Allah will create a new creation to fill it with."

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4850

Jews and Christians are the only ones that can save Muslims from hell, but from my experience it must happen before they die... Once they are dead, they can no longer be helped. The same would go for atheists... The clock is ticking...

[TonyMetal___86]

I agree with you on the atheists part but about the muslims, i don't know if that's true or not 🤷🏻‍♂️

[indissoluble]

I don't believe in Islam either, it is a false religion which you can logically deduce by reading it, but those are their sources. That is their belief system. You asked about what "Jews, Christians, Muslims" believe... So I gave you information on the topic. I personally had a vision of endless by the tens of millions of dead Muslims that thought they were praying to God in their earthly life, bound in their bodies in the afterlife in agony and torment going through the process of annihilation... They were all suffering beneath my feet. I bend down and tried to help them, but the light came to me and touch me on the right shoulder and told me "sorry, you can not help them" after which I was awoken in a state of peace after a long vision of the four corners of the Earth. So like I said, maybe Jews and Christians can save them, but it may have to happen before they die. Once they pass, there is no mercy for them. The light seem genuinely sympathetic, but accepting of their choose. If you choose to reject God, your choose is accepted and your demise is certain.

[indissoluble]

*choice

[indissoluble]

It would seem, God is trying to motivate people like me to help them before it is too late...

[TonyMetal___86]

When i said "jews, christians and muslims and everyone who believes in god" it was like calling these people to give their opinion about atheists 😄

[indissoluble]

The problem you have is that most Muslims lie about their own religion and ignore their own sources. It is a demonic cult. So if you want to know what the religion believes you have to read the sources. A cultist will not tell you the truth.

[indissoluble]

Why would they tell Jews and Christians that they plan to sacrifice them to the pit of hell for their own salvation? Their religion teaches them that Allah prefers sinners that need to be forgiven and to be forgiven they need to sacrifice a Jew or Christian... They see Jews and Christians as currency to barter with Allah to avoid punishment for their sins. They aren't going to tell you that. Their religion believes that if you are sinless that Allah would destroy you, thus you must sin and pray to allah for forgiveness. If you are a slave to Allah he will give you a Jew or Christian to sacrifice. The evil in it is very obvious, and they don't want Jews and Christians to know about that. So they lie.

[TonyMetal___86]

If it's true than it's dangerous!

[indissoluble]

Like I said read their sources. Don't trust them, don't trust me, just read. I gave you links to the Muslim websites for what I spoike about.

By Him in Whose Hand is my life, if you were not to commit sin, Allah would sweep you out of existence and He would replace (you by) those people who would commit sin and seek forgiveness from Allah, and He would have pardoned them.

https://sunnah.com/muslim:2749

[indissoluble]

*spoke

[indissoluble]

Think about what that means as a response to Christianity... Who's the only sinless person with a human nature? Jesus. So Islam by definition has a goal to sweep Jesus out of existence; to end Christianity. Those who try to be sinless are considered bad by Islam. Because Allah is "Satan". Islam wants people to sin, and then beg for mercy from Allah (Satan); to sacrifice Jews and Christians to Satan to avoid Hell-Fire... Who's the best of deceivers? Allah...

https://quranx.com/3.54

https://quranx.com/7.99

https://quranx.com/8.30

Ephesians 6:11
Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

[Chazmatazz269]

They almost certainly will not get to heaven, paradise or any other rewarded destination in the afterlife. All of the major religions have minimum requirements for gaining access to the pleasant places. Since atheists don’t do the work, they certainly won’t earn the benefits of having done so. Nonbelievers are headed to the same place as mouthpiece believers and hypocrites.
That is, of course, if there is an afterlife at all.

[TonyMetal___86]

Wise answer and there is an afterlife, actually the afterlife is where our lives would be real and eternal unlike here, just mortal visitors...

[purplepoppy]

why should billions of good people burn in he'll just because they weren't raised in the right religion or weren't prepared to accept an idea put forward with zero evidence and promotes through threats?

Atheists are more deserving of heaven because they behaved without the hope of reward.

[TonyMetal___86]

Yet how come you're going to somewhere you don't believe in the first place 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Iron_Man]

She better get her mind right and humble herself. If not, she’s gonna lose out on paradise and be a lost soul.

[TonyMetal___86]

@Iron_Man right 👍🏻

[Iron_Man]

Yes…

[purplepoppy]

I'm a good nice person so why am I denied heaven but some snotty nosed Karen gets in just because she believes I'm Jesus?

[Iron_Man]

Huh? Poppy being good doesn’t get you into heaven. The Lord wants you to be good and you get rewards. But it’s all about having a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ, and accepting him as your personal Lord Savior and believe that he died on the cross to save you from your sins and you shall not perish, but have everlasting life and if you accept him has your personal, Lord and Savior you will live again instantly in heaven. And who knows since I know you on the site I might even see you there. Because I will be in heaven.

[TonyMetal___86]

@purplepoppy who told you that if a bad person believes in jesus they get to heaven? The majority of christians won't be in heaven, you know why? It's because the majority of them are either wrong or not practicing Jesus's teachings at all...

[shoeboxcerealcard]

Even if you are presented with the Bible or faith... You'd have to recondition your mind to even accept it. @purplepoppy You're 100% correct. Also, I Don't believe you're a good person because nobody is and nobody is all bad either. I've been here long enough to see you lash out and say unforgivable things but everyone in the world is just as bad.

@Iron_Man Nobody knows if God is real and what God would even be like. The idea of going to hell is crazy because the whole universe works by Laws. That means non-believers are non-believers BY LAW. Free will is not real. Unconditional love is not real. You can't have free will in a conditional world... Aka a world govern by natural laws. Everything you ever did has been by Law. You're decisions... By law. You think people wake up and sabotage their lives everyday on purpose?
Why would God then make you go to hell because you were programmed to be a non-believer. I couldn't even be a believer if I tried... and i did try. Belief works they same as habit. Once opposing ideas have been in there long enough it's over. Plus it all makes zero logical sense. God might exist but he isn't the God of the Bible or any religion. The only thing that is fact in this world is the natural laws and honestly even our consciousness may be limiting our view point of that so who knows.

Many say, "You just gotta have faith" but that happens by law. You won't even stop believing after you read all this... Because you're probably too programmed by now. The logic I pointed out won't even phase you if your programming is strong.

[Iron_Man]

@shoeboxcerealcard God is real. There’s only one God the Lord Jesus Christ and the Bible comes from God his words and the apostles, wrote it from God. You have to get to know the Lord Jesus Christ, and have your own personal relationship. With God. Pray to God talk to him and read your Bible the king James version.

[purplepoppy]

Throughout history over 18000 gods have been worshipped. For arguments sake let's assume that's an exact figure. Now I'm guessing you don't believe in Thor, Zeus, Ra, Nanna, etc. Me neither. But countless people believed in all these gods just as strongly as you believe in yours. But here's the only difference between us. You reject 17999 gods i reject 18000, one more than you.

[Iron_Man]

Are you talking to me? Those are not god those are fairytales.

[Iron_Man]

You have to open up your heart. You’re too stubborn. You gotta make changes to save yourself. I’m just trying to help you out. Because I care.

[TonyMetal___86]

@purplepoppy it's a disgrace that you're mixing the reality with fairytales, Jesus is real, even scientists and historians who doesn't believes in his miracles, believes and proves that jesus was real and that he has really existed while you're thor and odin only exists in nordic folklores and in the marvel avengers series 😂

[Chazmatazz269]

A lot of people find that particular issue disturbing. Think of it like this. There are three lines for free stuff. In one line, you have to have certain shoes on to receive the goodies. In another line you have to have a certain hat on to get the goodies. In the third line you have to donate some canned goods to get the freebies.
You don’t have the right hat or shoes and you didn’t bring any canned goods. This despite rampant advertising about the nature of events. So much so that you have already formed a negative perception of it all. Then you’re going to be angry that you didn’t get any freebies?
Hell isn’t punishment per se. It’s just the default destination for everyone. The path to heaven requires commitment, sacrifice and good deeds. They’re actually not all that difficult to accomplish and maintain. But too many people have become accustomed to receiving things that they haven’t earned. Admission to a joyful afterlife isn’t going to follow suit. If you want to go to heaven, do the work. If you don’t, stop blaming believers for the consequences of your own choices.

[Wodens_Apprentice]

Atheists don't behave though. That's why they're constantly having orgies, killing unborn babies and sacrificing their own children's civilisation to barbarians.

[Lliam]

Purplepoppy is right. The only evidence for the Christian god is in a cooked up book. The Christian god is as mythological as any other. And he's the image of a psychopath.
Would a parent ever condemn their children to eternal torture, no matter what they did?
"You were a good person and lived an exemplary lift but you didn't worship me. You're going to Hell."
This Christian god supposedly condemns good people to eternal torture for simply not believing in him without any evidence. Oh yeah, believe a book that is full of contradictions and provable falsehoods. Believe a minister who lives well off of your money because he claims to be an expert..

[TonyMetal___86]

@Lliam i respect your opinion but you're completely wrong about it!

[_Jenny_]

@tonymetal___86 The Bible says “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, whosoever believes in him shall not Parrish but have everlasting life.”

[_Jenny_]

@tonymetal___86 Read John 3:16

[TonyMetal___86]

Right 👍🏻

[Anonymous]

In 1688 Emanuel Swedenborg was born. At 50 he used psychic powers to talk to soul guides. Six things he talked about that people who have had current near death experiences were:
1. Christians and non-Christians going to heaven. In the book "Life After Life" someone had a near death. They didn't believe in an afterlife. Their experience was heavenly.

I read Evangelical Christians don't accept near deaths because it shows you don't have to be a certain religion to go to heaven. Finally the book "God took my clothes" has research on near deaths. It says God doesn't care what religion you are.

2. God - many saw
3. Jesus - many saw
4. You're pulled into heaven and hell. So God doesn't send. A # said this.
5. Ghosts - one saw God and asked. God said there are ghosts.
6. Seeing family members - a few have said this.

[TonyMetal___86]

Thanks for sharing, we all go somewhere because we all have a soul but the question is where does your soul go to, that's the important part!

NDE, isn't a solid proof because speaking science, it's just a brain chemical reaction when your body shuts down, it makes you feel peaceful, yet since i'm a man of science and and a believer too, it might be a proof and it might not!

My logic says, since each person is given a soul, after death we all know what happens to the body so the soul must also go somewhere, so yes basically we must all have an afterlife, but where? Are we all going to the same place equally? Nope ofc not!

Some people who are atheists might be reading this and laughing, saying what an idiots believing in magic and fairy tales, wait son, do you want me to tell you about the universe and beyond than going down to quantum mechanics, i'll bet that you'll tell me nooo i prefer to believe in god cause it's easier than all of these 😏

Don't laugh at others if you don't share their beliefs because in fact you don't know the reality of nothing about nothing!

[TonyMetal___86]

Thanks for sharing, we all go somewhere because we all have a soul but the question is where does your soul go to, that's the important part!

NDE, isn't a solid proof because speaking science, it's just a brain chemical reaction when your body shuts down, it makes you feel peaceful, yet since i'm a man of science and and a believer too, it might be a proof and it might not!

My logic says, since each person is given a soul, after death we all know what happens to the body so the soul must also go somewhere, so yes basically we must all have an afterlife, but where? Are we all going to the same place equally? Nope ofc not!

Some people who are atheists might be reading this and laughing, saying what an idiots believing in magic and fairy tales, wait son, do you want me to tell you about the universe and beyond than going down to quantum mechanics, i'll bet that you'll tell me nooo i prefer to believe in god cause it's easier than all of these 😏

Don't laugh at others if you don't share their beliefs because in fact you don't know the reality of nothing about nothing...

[jshm2]

Depends.

Some of them would be lipservice atheists just to "be cool" but would adhere to religious standards.

Others would be chattel, and just existed to fill a space and do a job.

But there will be hell for the ardent atheist who knew better, but just went along anyway.

[TonyMetal___86]

👍🏻👍🏻

[Ill_made_Knight]

The atheist will not be bothered by this thought as if there is no god whatever will be in nature is what will be. Take into account those that turned their back on organized religion because of the words of men who claim to be god's messengers and promote things like "supernatural abundance" etc. that clearly go directly against the teachings of Christ, and all those religions full of people who are guilty of nothing more than being in a place where Christianity is not the dominant religion, every religion believes they are the one TRUE religion... right? The whole thing sounds like a method of control to me, and I haven't needed a deity to tell me how not to treat people so...

[TonyMetal___86]

So you're an atheist?

[Ill_made_Knight]

I'll call myself spiritual non-denominational. Not sure that there is or isn't a god, but I can't believe that a being that created everyone and everything would punish the majority of them for choosing the wrong brand of soul saver. Makes no sense.

[Ill_made_Knight]

and that after refusing to provide proof that you're the real deal?

[TonyMetal___86]

So you're agnostic, well my proof is Jesus!
This ain't a lab experiment so i prove you right or wrong, that's why it's called faith, you either have it or not...

God is extremely forgiving cause if he was logical and fair than we deserve to be burning in hell right now!

[Ill_made_Knight]

Cool man... everyone should follow their own path through life... enjoy

[TonyMetal___86]

👍🏻👍🏻

[strateguy632]

yes they will have a painful afterlife. in human court we have 'contempt of court' if insult judge so insulting the judge jesus is even bigger contempt of court.

[TonyMetal___86]

👍🏻👍🏻

[FreyaRed]

You die and it's over. There is nothing after. This is an illusion to control gullible sheep who want to believe in omnipotent beings. While sheep want into heaven those who tell them fairy tales rob, kill, lie and f**k children without having any fear of hell.

Look for adversaries among those who try to control you, not among those who don't care about you and your ideology at all.

[TonyMetal___86]

If you believe that the afterlife and god are all an illusion, you're free but it doesn't make reality more real or if it's wrong more wrong!

You chose not to believe in anything, you chose to be an atheist!

I chose to believe in god and jesus and i surely believe in the afterlife!

I never relate humans actions to my beliefs, my faith is strong and no one can shake it...

[Cidknee]

Upon the second resurrection those who died without Christ will be raised and judged. The lake of fire is the destination for those found without Christ as I understand it. But, knowing Jesus there just may be a bit more to the story.

[TonyMetal___86]

So you're saying that an Atheist might have a chance of having an afterlife?

[Cidknee]

Im not saying it. Its written unbelievers will have their part in the lake of fire. But at the same time we know that anything is possible through Christ.

Im just thinking on how a person may claim to be atheist yet in their heart they've believed. Maybe they are angry at God f or the suffering on earth. We know that's from the fallen and evil ones but their brain can't wrap around all of it.

[TonyMetal___86]

Even atheists at some point of their lives starts feeling weird and wrong and they start having doubts and become lost!

[Cidknee]

They should. I feel that they only deny believing because I see no room for disbelief.

[TonyMetal___86]

Right, because the whole truth is in front of you all the time...

[Cidknee]

It is!

[Kelly6]

@tonymetal___86 answer is that we know nothing, and God will judge everyone based of their deeds and believe.

Wow, this ends more as what Muslims say lol. 😆

[TonyMetal___86]

Miss Kelly i'm a proud Christian and Jesus is my teacher and savior 😌

[Kelly6]

I know

[sage2021]

No! They will not be going to live with God for eternity. Why should they when they don't believe in Him or don't believe in Jesus Christ? All they have to do is believe but they refuse!

[shoeboxcerealcard]

They refuse because they are programmed by to believe. They couldn't believe even if they wanted to. Life is not random. People don't just actually have free will. That's why most mess up their lives everyday. The thing governing everyone and everything is the natural laws not free will.

I don't think most believers understand that. They really think it's as easy as "believe". If someone comes to believe, it happened by law. It's not an accident or a choice of free will. Although it will feel 100% like it.

[AviatorTom]

If the Supreme Being is really All-Forgiving, then atheists will go to heaven, if there is one.

[TonyMetal___86]

According to you if there's a god, why he must be forgiving to the point where the worst eaquals the best!

Nope sir, god is forgiving but to a certain limit, if he wanted to treat all the human kind the same, than he wouldn't have came here to teach us anything...

God doesn't works under our conditions, WE work under his conditions!

Plus if he wasn't sooo much forgiving, we would be burning in hell right now or went extinct from a natural disaster!

[strateguy632]

if god is all forgiving which people burn in fire? @AviatorTom

[Chazmatazz269]

Well, i’m rusty on this point, but i think there’s something in the bible about a period during which “the chosen people” will be given an opportunity to turn toward God and be accepted into Heaven. Everyone else has to earn it in advance. Living a lifetime of wickedness and then saying “Oops!” at the gates begging forgiveness isn’t going to cut it. Nor should it. Why should people who sacrificed and did the work have to share heaven with wanton sinners? What would be the point of having rules and deeds at all?

[TonyMetal___86]

@Chazmatazz269 well said 👍🏻 because at the end of the day, not everyone will be given the same, that's why based on your life and actions here, you get rewarded!

[Wodens_Apprentice]

So your god is a demonic, gnostic abomination. My god is a manifestation of the universes soul.

[TonyMetal___86]

@Wodens_Apprentice there is no my god and your god, there's only one god and i won't believe in any god who will give you excuses for your bad actions, or to reward everyone the same, he created us on his picture, peoppe thought that we look like him as appearance, nope it's not, on his image means our intelligence and emotions, ofc we are on the lowest end of his level, but he taught us how become a lot better!

So yes, good ain't like bad, and pure ain't like evil, plus who hurts and enjoy the suffering of others ain't like someone who helps and sympathize with you... etc

[Wodens_Apprentice]

@tonymetal___86 There's multiple God's made in the image of Woden.
" i won't believe in any god who will give you excuses for your bad actions" oh you mean like your god who forgives prostitutes, rapists, murderers and thieves? Woden doesn't forgive sinners. People manifest Sæter & Lockē's power, corrupting their own threads of fate through their warlock trickery.
When you are cruel and unjust, you lose the protection of Wōden's son, Thunor and might even find yourself struck down by him. This is because he protects mankind by striking Ettin's skulls open (name meaning "eaters" they're primordial and dark forces who gave medieval Christianity the iconographic of Krampus & the various demons in hell with cauldrons depicted in medieval times. These aren't biblical demons they're Ettin's from Germanic myth. There's even the cauldrons in Hell in Germanic myth.)
"he created us on his picture, peoppe thought that we look like him as appearance, nope it's not," Even if that's true why is that important? Most pagans with their "idols" in northern Europe did not believe their statues and carvings were genuine depictions of the Gods as nothing can be holy made by human hands. The fact abrahamic religions struggle to wrap their head around the fact polytheists and catholics use imagery remind us of the divine is baffling. What forgiving God would send us to hell just because he didn't like the human imagination and how we do artwork of him?
"ofc we are on the lowest end of his level, but he taught us how become a lot better." And yet he's still going to let demons torment me in the afterlife for not groveling before his feet and choosing the Gods of my heritage. At least with Woden I know if I fall, someday I will rise again better as that's the cyclic nature of the universe. He doesn't demand a humiliation ritual, he just rewards those who follow his laws & respects his energy as he's the King of our universe (Eorminsil / Yggdrasil).

[Wodens_Apprentice]

Also my God doesn't send people to Hell. He just chooses who goes to heaven. However Hell isn't a domain of eternal torment it's the place sick souls go to, to get purified in the chaos. That's why the rainbow bridge Bifrost leads from Hell to Heaven. Once you have made the right spiritual journey in hell your soul can become worthy and be taken up in a rainbow. So when I see a rainbow I believe I'm looking at spiritual energy stores in the Earth being sent up.

[TonyMetal___86]

@Wodens_Apprentice good story, keep it up 😏

[AviatorTom]

@tonymetal___86 If there is only one god, then what do we do with those people who believe in many gods, like the Hindus in India?

[Wodens_Apprentice]

@tonymetal___86 The story of my ancestors when they were getting in touch with the divine. The Teutonic people are the real chosen people. Semitic cultures only ever produced religious dogma because of the prevailing slave morality of the middle east.

[TonyMetal___86]

@AviatorTom they can believe in whatever they want to believe in, i know what i believe in and don't intend to force people in my beliefs...

[TonyMetal___86]

@Wodens_Apprentice you believe in your own stories, good for you, i don't, because i have my own beliefs!

[AviatorTom]

@tonymetal___86 But will the Hindus go to the heaven you believe in? Or maybe they go somewhere else? Or maybe none of us go anywhere?

[TonyMetal___86]

Personally i believe that since everyone has a soul that we will all go somewhere, but will they go to the same place like me? Nope, it's because Jesus taught us that in order to enter the heaven we need to believe in him...

About that maybe none of us go anywhere, my science mind struggles with my part which believes in god, so yes i will always believe that there is an after life!

[Kelly6]

@AviatorTom exactly, that's why we can't tell what will be judge.
But someone who insults him, and then asking to enter heaven is very weird to me. 😆😆😆

[Billlewis]

Nope, I'm not going because there is no heaven or hell, other than right here on earth.

[TonyMetal___86]

Who said it? You 😂😂

[MrChinaski]

I don't see why I should miss out on 72 virgins just because I don't believe.

[TonyMetal___86]

That's if you're a muslim 😂

[MrChinaski]

My beliefs are just as not-Muslim as they are not-Christian. I want my virgins, damn it!

[Dargil]

Allah is not the same God as Y*w*h. The real G0d would never advocate killing unbelievers

[Chazmatazz269]

Read the old testament, mate. You couldn’t be more wrong. Do you even vaguely understand the story of Sodom and Gomorrah? The Salem witch trials were charged from verses out of Exodus. “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.”

[Dargil]

@Chazmatazz269 The New testament is a new dispensation. That's part of what Jesus did. Islam needs reformation.

[Wodens_Apprentice]

@Dargil *Destruction
Reformation would be too kind to those scum.

[Kelly6]

@Dargil it's the same God with different language translated version of word god.

All 3 religions have same God.
So stop propaganda reprogram your mind into hate.

[Just_Ken]

Probably not.

[TonyMetal___86]

Me too, i guess so!

[FrodoSkywalker007]

Depends on your faith I guess

[TonyMetal___86]

The question is: do you believe that Atheists will go to heaven or have afterlife?

[FrodoSkywalker007]

I don't think I believe

[TonyMetal___86]

Okay thanks for sharing

[jahaims]

I'm not retarded

[TonyMetal___86]

What do you mean?