Why victimization needs to stop

[Theguyoverthere]

There's been a huge trend that is killing cultures everywhere and that is victimization. There's been this fad where everyone is trying to be a victim, or a martyr of some sort.

Whenever people have these gender disputes it is constantly an argument of "My life sucks more than yours therefore I'm a better person." People don't realize they sound like this but they do. Not many people are truly strong anymore and it's really killing things for others. If you're ever wondering why there aren't many confident people anymore this has a lot to do with it. People would rather try to degrade their own confidence by making it seem like they "have it so tough" instead of rising above challenges they are faced and become strong and confident. You'll see people losing arguments all the time and the tactic of victimizing themself is what they turn to. So when you see these gender disputes it turns into a bunch people from each side going on about how "hard they have it" and it just shows you how weak each person is.

We really need to become stronger as a society or people are just going to make themselves out to be weaker and weaker. This trend really needs to stop. There's nothing "courageous" or "heroic" about victimizing yourself. It's a huge turn off. It's a desperate attempt for sympathy and a means of deflecting the issues that are going on. Who really wants to date a weakling? There's nothing attractive about it unless the person's just looking for someone to control and manipulate. People can't be "independent" when they're desperately trying to make themselves look like they can't even stand on their own two feet.

It's not about being the most super confident and cocky person possible. It's just about being an all around good person overall. Someone who is strong enough to stand up for themself but doesn't need to act helpless to get what they want. Society's got enough whiners, let's not create anymore of those. Let's teach people who to handle a confrontation for once and to face the facts in front of them. Let's teach responsibility. Let's learn how to take care of ourselves. If we don't do something now it's only going to get worse. We shouldn't aim to be the biggest victim possible. We should aim to be the strongest people we can be.

[creepycreeper]

Exactly. We got all these Asian and Middle Eastern people coming into the country barely knowing a word of English and starting their own businesses and being more successful than the average white person. They experience real discrimination but you never see them whining about it, if some redneck asks them if they know kung fu or have a bomb strapped to their chest they will usually just laugh it off. I don't know why the fuck blacks, Mexicans, White women, and gays have to whine all the time because most of them are way more privileged and educated than those immigrants and more protected by political correctness too.

[genuinlysensitive]

Its not just if you actually are discriminated against, its how LOUDLY you bitch about it. If I hear one more take about how, women are oppressed because the media shows a few models and actresses on the red carpet (btw a large part of the audience for that type of stuff is WOMEN) I will vomit!

[creepycreeper]

@genuinlysensitive Hell I think women want to be discriminated against. Just look at 50 shades of gray. Hell I posted a picture of Hank Pym backhanding his wife on here and girls all upvoted it. :/

[genuinlysensitive]

There is a difference between dom/sub in the bedroom and discrimination. Just like there is a difference between real and imaginary discrimination. It has become not about righting wrongs, but how hard you can sell the fact that they need special treatment, even though we are "equal" you know.

[tomboy41]

This is do true people need to stop playing the race card for their failures and women need to stop whining about a none existent glass ceiling.

[Bards]

Good take!
It was all in vain
Well on g@g

[genuinlysensitive]

I find there are more smart people on here than one thinks. The problem is much like other areas of life they are not nearly as loud so it seems like there are fewer than there actually are lol.

[Bards]

@genuinlysensitive unfortunately :/

[genuinlysensitive]

Just try and remember that when it seems like there are an over whelming number of idiots out there. There actually aren't that many of them, they are just the loudest, with the deepest wallets.

[Bards]

@genuinlysensitive deepest wallets... as in rich? XD

[genuinlysensitive]

Many are willing to work the media, wich hiring experts, spin drs., etc.

[Bards]

@genuinlysensitive oh okay! I understand that.

[Jimrat86]

I agree with this to an extent. On the one hand, we have seen certain groups decide to define themselves by victimization because of trama that took place in the distant past. What is worse, is that the media (such as Hillary Clinton, Gavin Newsome, Cnn, etc...) perpetuates it further by hammering it into them so much that they start to believe it. It's not good for society, and it only creates distrust, abuse and hatred among people. I would think that it today's economy, where it seems like the majority of people who are not rich and are just struggling to survive, would not focus so much on issues not related to survival.
However, I believe that we also on some level, need social activism, mostly in the form of grassroots movements. If you have seen me post before, then you will know that I feel like the student loan industry is extremely predatory, and is going to greatly damage if not destroy our economy unless major changes take place. The rhetoric in my blogging may sound as though I am attempting to make "Victims" out of those the most affected by it (millenials). However, this has more to do with achieving both economic progress than it does simply saying "poor me".
With all that being said, we need to stop being victims when it comes to issues that should have died long ago, and start being agents of positive change when it comes to issues that directly affect us and our families.

[genuinlysensitive]

I think this is well said. You should do a take about this @Jimrat86.

[Jimrat86]

Thank you. While I think I can identify problems with the victimization mentality, I think the arguments there are circular because they are based more on feelings. Sure double standards are easier to spot than roadkill, but it typically amounts to a he said she said back and forth, which it pointless to me.
I did however do a take on the student loan problem.

[Anonymous]

This is a very good take. While I acknowledge that some people really do have it bad, and for no logical reason, far too many groups are jumping on the "we have it worse" band wagon. Most notably feminists, who even though women have equal rights, and in divorces and custody cases always get favored, can literally hit men in public all they want with no fear of punishment (many times encouragement), legally cannot rape anyone, are always believed when accusing a man of wrongdoing, serve less time when convicted of the same crime as men, but somehow they are still "victimized" by men in society.

On top of that they outright lie about statistics, my favorite was former president Carter saying on international TV that 300,000 young girls are kidnapped by men and made into sex slaves here in the US annually. This has been DEBUNKED 7 ways from Tuesday, and yet people still perpetuate it.

If there is an actual systematic problem that needs to be addressed it 100% should be! However, much of our society has degraded into the idiot who yells the loudest is believed. Just look at how many BS takes are on this site, always by the same group of people who keep saying it over and over, because that will somehow make it truer!

[Anonymous]

They'll never stop whining because today's millennial liberal agenda rides on the idea that any non-white or non-male or non-straight person is being oppressed my an elite upper-class white male population in society, and the only way to end the oppression (besides violence) is to whine and victimize themselves and make people feel bad for them.

Being strong and confident against all the hardships of life in their eyes would only allow the elite and more fortunate people in society to "win", because while some fortunate people were handed their success, these whiners have to actually work hard for their success, which they see as unfair.

[WeeGeeTheSecond]

And guess what, that opens up opportunities to get more votes to a specific politician.
That is the new way of getting votes apparently.

[genuinlysensitive]

I do not agree with victimization but there is a difference between whining based on forged or untrue statistics and pointing out huge inequalities in the system by design.

[Opinion Owner]

Yes I agree but I don't think that is the majority of the cases.

[KHaskins]

Excellent take. In the immortal words of Christopher Titus:

We've all got that one friend who, when you’re sitting around telling stories, he'll tell the same lame-ass tired story about why his life hasn’t worked out.

"Yeah man, I didn't get that good job, you know why? And I didn't to go to a good college, you know why? I’ll tell you why — "

"Dude, don’t tell me again. And I want you to know something, man. We all feel really bad that when you were in troop 182, the scoutmaster rubbed your butt at the overnight jamboree. But what are you, like, thirty now? You've got life on backwards. Here, let me flip it. There, see? Now your past is behind ya! What’s say you climb down off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge and GET OVER IT!"

[Aztecwarrior480]

I can't agree with you more. People not only should stop playing the victim card whenever things don't go their way, they also need to stop dragging other people down with them on their negativity. If they have the capability to overcome whatever their lifestyle situation is, then they need to let go of their baggage and victim card. Unfortunately, I see nothing but baggage and victim card pulling from both sides here on GAG.

[warumnicht]

I'll be honest I'm lazy so I skimmed through rather than reading so if you've already talked about it which wouldn't surprise me ignore my purposeful ignorance.

I do agree this is becoming a problem. I think there is a general almost... It seems that it is seen as being good to have character flaws or to be seen to be suffering as you said because it apparently shows you're a strong character etc etc.

There's a lack of the let's just get on with it attitude as there was before. Things were simpler before.

[neofuture]

BOOM spot on post, victimization has created a whole generation of weak and arrogant kids, I used to be one of those whiny yuppie kids who cried "bullying" to get out of responsibility, now every kid from Beverly Hills to the Hamptons are screaming victims having the nerve to say they have the same troubles as poor kids. It's disgusting and needs to learn

[WeeGeeTheSecond]

Way too many people think that when boys play with girl's stuff, have many female friends, etc they are transgender, which is kind of ridiculous. Crossing the gender "norms" does not make you transgender. Many of my friends were like that when they were young and now they all got their girlfriends.
I am glad that we were born when that Social Justice Warrior shit wasn't a thing.

[GreatnessPersonified]

That's why people need to look to "Captain America" style of living.
He's probably the only superhero without a pissy past, or doing it for pissy reasons.
He chose his lifestyle.

[FidemMeam]

Even when he was physically weak, Cap still tackled every problem and bully like he already was a super-soldier.

[love2run13]

I agree with this take, some people gotta grow up and realize that just cuz they are not straight, white, and whatever does not mean they have to victimize themselves and blame their problems on everyone else.

[sp33d]

"good" is subjective. The problem of such a pitiful practice is psychosis. People, en masse, will think it's ok to do so, part of their reality, and as such, the relationships between people will be in a decline.

[tomboy41]

Your so right about all these so called victims of everything. At what stage did it become acceptable to be the biggest pathetic weaklings.

[Noxifer626]

The problem is, some people do have it harder than others. And those people have every right to demand their lives be equally hard than those of the others.

[ArchDruidMordred]

I had to deal with this from someone a few days ago.

[John_Doesnt]

Stop picking on the victims, the victims are the real victims!

[Zigzagz]

Holy shit this is all kinds of true.

[Anonymous]

How would you suggest that someone tell their issues without looking like a victim?

[Opinion Owner]

And please give examples of how people men and women play victim

[dartmaul15]

stating what they're doing to overcome it?
Pointing at solutions, rather than problems?
Taking responsibility for the issues, instad of accusing others?
Actually talk about legit issues, and not some made up humbug?

That is how. I got a bad eyesight, but i'm not sitting arround home crying about it, or going to "support groups" to hold hands and sing kumbaya, or demanding everyone else to adapt to it. I'm simply getting a pair of glasses, taking responsibility for my "issue".
That is what you should do.

[Opinion Owner]

It depends on how you define victimization. Also don't support groups provide help?

[Opinion Owner]

Well I have dealt with Some traumatic things in life and I'm seeing a counselor. I don't see support as victimization. I'm getting support by seeing a counselor and I see that as me getting help and getting solutions

[diarrhea]

Let me guess, you're a white middle class man

[genuinlysensitive]

And that would matter because?

[diarrhea]

@genuinlysensitive I'm thinking it matters for the same reason why you couldn't care to take a moment of your time to think about it instead of defensively ''asking'' me.

[genuinlysensitive]

Well you are assuming based on negative stereotypes a person is a certain race. That is profiling. But I guess you're one of those people who think its ok as long as its agaainsy middle class white people.

[diarrhea]

@genuinelysensitive Wow man stop victimizing yourself, weak people are unattractive.

[RajeshTheJeshter]

Stop oppressing me with your PATRIARCHY!

[Anonymous]

It's an easy way to earn money though.