There Is So Much More To Hating PETA Other Than "Annoying Vegans"

[shinyunicorn]

As a vegetarian and animals rights activist it annoys me when people only treat PETA as "those pesky vegans". There is so much more to that and it's time people start hating them for legitimate reasons.

1. They euthanize animals instead of putting them up for adoption...so much for being 'ethical'

2. They bring up body shaming and other topics such as abuse, rape, mental illness and terrorism which is totally unrelated and unnecessary

3. They waste more money on ridiculous campaigns rather than actually helping animals in need

4. They give vegans/vegetarians/animal rights activists a bad name

Not everyone is batshit crazy. Most of us just want more humane treatment for animals. You can educate people without going as far as PETA.

5. They often exaggerate and use false information

FYI, this is what a real sheared sheep looks like:

Also, if you don't shear a sheep it endangers it, as you can see from the story of Shrek, the sheep who escaped and wandered freely for 6 years. Shrek was moments away from suffocating but luckily he was found and rescued.

Trust me on this, I live in a country where there are more sheep than humans.

6. They believe all animals should be free, so what's the most logical thing to do in their opinion? Kidnap pet dogs and euthanize them

So, instead of giving peta more money for their next sexist and extreme protest, donate your money to organizations that actually help animals.

As the strongest creature on this planet, it's our responsibility to take care of our fellow earthlings.

[Waffles731]

There is no link between cows milk and autism, so promoting pseudo science,
Of course with their stances on culling herds they clearly have no understanding of ecology

[Blonde401]

Exactly. Organic cows milk has more omega 3 in it than cows who live in dairy sheds but it's still healthy to drink milk.

[Blonde401]

I had an argument with someone here not too long ago about how PETA are disgusting and not an example of someone who fights for animals rights.

[dangerDoge]

PETA can pretty crazy, but I guess that is what they are known for, right? I always have labeled them as a radical animal rights group. The myTake would have been aided by perhaps more details... Like perhaps links to sources. Otherwise it can sound propaganda-ish with no background info.

Nevertheless, I don't agree with PETA's stances on things, ridiculous or not. They tend to have a radical look at things, but the radical look is offered beside a rational resolution to resolve the problem.

For instance... Animal testing (a controversial subject no doubt). So, if we abolish complete animal testing, do we just skip animal testing and move to human phases? That seems risky to human lives. There isn't a better alternative that I know of offered by em.

Another thing is like bugs and/or rats. So... if one's house is infested by pests, should a person forsake their home to the pests? It just makes no sense.

If there were reasonable alternatives to agendas proposed, I may give whoever a listen, but as far as I can tell, PETA is radically blinded by their own cause to think logically.

[Mustachekitteh]

Animal testing would be replaced by testing grown human skin and other things like that. Which we're coming pretty close to being good at doing.

[dangerDoge]

@Mustachekitteh But often time the drugs have possible side effects to organs and such (things not forseeable via skin), no?

[Mustachekitteh]

They've grown a working heart already. :D

[dangerDoge]

@Mustachekitteh That must be relatively new :O
If they can mass produce it into a reasonable/practical solution, then I would get behind them using that instead of animal testing.

[Mustachekitteh]

It's not 100% ready to make a lot yet but they managed to make one and working lungs too. Along with growing muscles, so we're closer to maybe resting that way.

[Josht11]

wow they used a fucking sheep for that couldn't they have used like a goose or a coyote they really are retarded. They are too brazen about everything which makes people hate them and continue to eat meat and not give a shit just in spite.

[shinyunicorn]

exactly. shaving sheep is mandatory as it saves their life, on the other hand mass killing many animals just for their fur/feathers/heads/tails/whatever is plain greedy and insensitive.

[Josht11]

yeah they could've just used
i.dailymail.co.uk/.../...age-a-9_1426783209136.jpg

[Anonymous]

I no longer stand with PETA or HSUS anymore. I'm an exotic animals owner and breeder which is why and they will lie their asses off and make absolutely false claims. I've watched their videos on exotics and found a web of lies. Basically they believe anyone who owns or breeds animals that aren't a cat or dog are satanists and think that those who can't have a cat or dog (due to allergies or something) They don't realize to know think that those who own pets are actually animal lovers. What really fucking sucks though is if I have to do research on animal cruelty, the only good information and videos are by PETA! Essentially PETA and HSUS are more hate groups in disguise!

[Marinepilot]

PETA is largest bunch of despicable hypocrites I've ever seen. I love
to hunt. I'm an ethical, legally licensed law abiding hunter. I only shoot
animals that I'm going to eat. Every penny of my hunting license fees go
toward conservation and habitat preservation. PETA and their ilk want to harass
us legal hunters. They have no right to do this. We don't harass them, or I don't. To me they are a bunch of burned out old Hippies with nothing better to do.

[anonman32]

put on a ghillie suit and film the harrasing hunters.

[Marinepilot]

@anonman32 They can be prosecuted and jailed for this. I'm going to be an attorney and I understand their right to air their views and demonstrate. I get that. But they have no right to harass hunters or fishermen for that matter. They can do as they wish, but we can't? Fuck that shit !

[anonman32]

i agree to that. its not like you guys are a multimillion dollar food company doing inhumane things to animals.

[shinyunicorn]

I usually hate people like you but I gotta say I respect you a lot. THIS is how nature is supposed to work, going over to walmart to buy frozen processed meat doesn't count.
also when you think about it, hunting does help in a way. there aren't as many natural hunters in the wild to kill rabbits or deer, so it's only natural they're gonna overpopulate.

this comes from a vegetarian and animal rights activist, I wish more people were like you

[Marinepilot]

Thank you. Shinyunicorn You stated your position and defended it very well. Well done.

[PineappleBreath]

Can you give a logical reason to give a shit about animals? I mean I don't hurt any I just don't care about them at all

[shinyunicorn]

in terms of weakness they're like the children of the planet and humans are the adults. because we're much stronger than them, it's also our responsibility to at least make sure they're okay.

it's just not naturally fair, we have an impossible advantage on them.

[PineappleBreath]

Uh why I mean look at the wild it's the natural order for the animal at the top of the food chain to eat and use the animals below them. Also I should care about all animals like mosquitos and parasites? What things like leather made from cow skin or meat from a farm?

[shinyunicorn]

it's beyond the natural food chain, think about it this way: we're herbivores, just an evolution of monkeys, yet we are more powerful than any other living being on this world, not because we're physically strong, but because we have human-made things that help us.
it's like bringing a gun to a knife fight. and humans are naturally greedy, so we exploit this power way too much to the point where it needs to be stopped or at least slowed down.
I'm not asking you to get up right now and donate all your money to the nearest pet shelter, but think about these stuff next time you eat a burger

[PineappleBreath]

First we are omnivores been eating meat and plants since caveman days. In fact people brains could have not evolved without the protein from animals. So should hunting and farming be banned? What concrete actions should people take to protect animals?

[shinyunicorn]

I know that. In fact I support hunting (only if it's for eating and not collecting animal heads or some shit like that) because that's how nature is supposed to work. You hunt to get food. and as far as I know, mass farming animals and then selling them as processed frozen meat isn't exactly natural. I don't oppose eating meat, I just oppose the way it's done

[PineappleBreath]

Well honestly if we were worried about natural we would still be living in caves praying to the sun god. Without mass production of meat there would be no way to produce the amount the population needed. There are fair criticisms of it such as feeding the animals unneeded antibiotics that lead to the development of superbugs or the fact that the meat is unhealthy a lot of the time. The issue is volume I dont know of alternative where affordable healthly meat can be produced at the volume needed. The only means I know of to produce large volumes of meat are the current ways of mass production.

[anonman32]

the propaganda of PETA is only rivaled by that of nazi germany.

[Marinepilot]

You're so right. Well done.

[Mustachekitteh]

Yep PETA is psychotic and horrible to animals.

[Marinepilot]

That they are.