Feminism Isn't About Equality: Equalitarianism Is (Page 2)

[Anonymous]

The feminists that I know mostly boring and lesbian. This is a static or coincidence I don't know. But every 99 of 100 feminists that I know are boring and lesbian.

[TheLoneWolf96]

Boring, lesbian, and when they run out of "facts"... their last ditch effort is try and call you a woman-hater or a loser.

[Opinion Owner]

@TheLoneWolf96 I have no problem with women. I love them <3 Except feminists. :D

[lost_alice]

woman are going to war, working and bringing money home don't tell me we dont want responsabilities

[the_rake]

respectfully I think you missed the point

[lost_alice]

no I just felt the need to say something I don't agree with you

[the_rake]

just because some women are doing those things doesn't mean they all are.

many women for example are satisfied with a traditional lifestyle where the man approaches and courts the woman and then he becomes the breadwinner for the family while the wife stays home and does domestic stuff. some women are not even satisfied with this but want to be approached, looked after, cared for and want other privileges that come with feminism - e. g. right to vote, right to equal pay, etc. some women in your country refuse to be drafted but are satisfied that men are. some women want equal pay, even when the man working the same job is actually more qualified, works harder and longer shifts than they do. lots of women want maternity leave and half of a man's belongings in divorce court.

so yeah, there are extreme feminist women out there that definitely demand equal rights without equal responsibilities. just because you are not (or you say you are not) one of them does not mean they don't exist.

[lost_alice]

we used to be accommodated feminists are changing this and even the radical ones can't be accommodated anymore. and if I say I am not an extremist you should believe me

[the_rake]

@lost_alice

What do you even mean? I already explained how the gynocentric bias of feminism's etymology and the activist nature of it's history is attractive to radicals in both the mytake AND on a separate opinion comment. I also explained why if you're NOT an extremist, and you are in favour of real, genuine equality you should be an equalitarian to which you did not respond.

[lost_alice]

see my take about why I am not an equalitarian

[the_rake]

no.

you post a link and you explain where you stand. it's not my responsibility to find it for you, and it's not my responsibility to read a really long link because you can't be bothered to explain (especially if I have already heard of those arguments and/or addressed them in the article above). if you won't do this, then don't bother to reply.

[lost_alice]

are u a kid?

www.girlsaskguys.com/.../a29670-why-i-am-not-an-equalitarian

[the_rake]

I told you, I wouldn't respond without a brief explanation, especially not if you're going to insult me. And no, I barely have time to spend on debating 16 year olds, especially if they're too lazy to explain their reasoning against equalitarianism, but want me to trapse through the internet finding something they wrote.

But let's take a look at your "arguments".

"people that hate feminism say this things but say they are equalitarians haha"

... seriously, what a strawman. SOME equalitarians think this. It is absolutely absurd to conflate me with those radical idiots, just like it would be absurd of me to conflate you with feminazis.

"Only women takes [the morning after pill] so it wouldn't be equal even though it can be good to both genders but since both can't have it, it doesn't go with the movement."

What are you even talking about? Men don't take morning after pills because they don't need it. Another strawman, because you don't even understand what's meant by equality.

[lost_alice]

I know that is why I said i am not an equalitarian because I see the need of discussing issues that doesn't go with the movement

[the_rake]

"Women works, have kids, take care of the house, go to war- so we can do a lot of things men can (thanks to feminism). But do men want to do things girls do? take care of the house, take care of the kids,"

This is both something men can and do do.

"even wear makeup"

Unless the man is gay or has a fetish or something why would he want to? If they want to, then yeah they can, just like women could theoretically wear man's aftershave, or take a walk around the park in a man's tuxedo if they really wanted.

"if we want equal rights there is no girls things and guys things."

SUCH a strawman. Equality does NOT mean everybody's the same.

"it is okay to hurt our femininity?"

Seriously what? How are equalitarians trying to hurt your femininity. This sounds like more of a criticism of FEMINAZIS who want women to be more manly: be the breadwinner of the family, nag their husband half to death, dominate the household, be ruthless cut-throat competition in corporations, lift weights, etc.

[the_rake]

"this take inpired me to do mine"

Next time you do a response take about mine, please mention my username, @the_rake

[lost_alice]

isn't it equalitarism, why men can't do it?
and we do male things man can do girls things too

see you don't want equality you want the end of feminism

[the_rake]

@lost_alice

I want equal justice and equal opportunities. you conflate "equality" with equality of endowment. again, this is a strawman.

[lost_alice]

ok. people tell feminists are blind but I think others are more

[the_rake]

explain.

[lost_alice]

you only want to see your own opinion whatever I say you will find something wrong, I respect your decision but it is bad to yourself that you can't respect mine. Good luck with your ride to equality

[the_rake]

I can respect people's opinions as long as they don't conflate them with fact.

[lost_alice]

the conversation is over

[the_rake]

who do you think you are to say "the conversation is over". what you mean is "I have finished speaking". well good, but I haven't.

[lost_alice]

talk to the wall honey I am not going to listen to bullshit

[the_rake]

I'm not talking to any wall - I'm too sane for that, thanks.

[ADFSDF1996]

Good job with this mytake.

[anonman32]

i agree with this mytake completely.

[Josht13]

do you mean egalitarianism?

[the_rake]

no, equalitarianism

[Josht13]

never heard of it.

[the_rake]

egalitarianism could be conflated with notions of political equality in general. equalitarianism is specifically about sexual equality.

[Maxemeister]

Equestrianism sounds amazing

[the_rake]

true

[Anonymous]

I agree

[Anonymous]

Misogyny on Gag is getting so boring.

[Indigo91]

These issues are important that need to be addressed. That's like saying the war and suffering in middle east on news is getting boring.

[Opinion Owner]

@Indigo91 The issue of the misogyny by Republicans is a woman running for POTUS.

[the_rake]

Thanks but I am not a misogynist.

[Indigo91]

Disagreeing with feminism means your a misogynist lol What are you going to say next... call me a racist for voting for trump or call me a traitor to Britain for no supporting the English Defense League etc. For someone over 45+ you are very small minded, what have you been doing for past decades. Feminists have succeeded making you in to a right beta white knight mangina.

[Opinion Owner]

@Indigo91 Aren't these insults copyrighted by Bill O'Reilly or Rush Limbaugh? :-|

[YourFutureEx]

This is certainly not a misogynistic post.

[Anonymous]

Isn't it called egalitarianism?

[the_rake]

see the other comments

[Opinion Owner]

I work for NBC.

[the_rake]

good job but what's your point?

[Opinion Owner]

We don't fudge on our fudge bro.

[the_rake]

I don't know what you're talking about and I'm beginning to suspect a troll.

[Opinion Owner]

Oh noes the jig is up!

[the_rake]

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