Why Soviet Symbols are Not Offensive (Unlike Nazi Symbols)

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Many people are outraged by symbols of Nazism, and justifiably so. With my ancestral Jewish background I share those views, as do a vast majority of Americans. Yet, many people do not hold on to these views while talking about the Soviet Union and the various symbolisms of the former powerhouse. The bottom line; is the Soviet emblem offensive? While the question in essence is one of opinion, that doesn't rule out cold hard facts. (continue below)

Why Soviet Symbols are Not Offensive (Unlike Nazi Symbols)

Short answer; it isn't. My grandfather served in the Cuban Missile Crisis, and that may be the biggest conflict between the US and the Soviet Union to date, yet the hammer and sickle is still not troublesome to me at all. Why? It represents much more than Joseph Stalin, or the USSR in general. The iconic symbol has been used by many communist countries and parties since the birth of the notorious union. Here are all of the countries that use, or contain parties that use at least derivatives of Soviet Imagery:

Albania
Armenia
Austria (KPÖ · KI)
Azerbaijan
Belarus (KPB)
Belgium (Flanders · Wallonia)
Belgium (PvdA/PTB)
Bosnia and Herzegovina
Britain (CPB · NCPB · CPS)
Bulgaria
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Denmark (DKP · KPiD)
Estonia
Finland
France
Georgia
Germany
Greece
Hungary
Ireland (CPI · WPI)
Italy (PdCI · PRC)
Luxembourg
Malta
Moldova
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Russia (CPRF · RCWP-RPC)
San Marino
Serbia
Slovakia
Spain
Spain (Catalonia)
Sweden
Switzerland
Turkey
Ukraine
United Kingdom

Why Soviet Symbols are Not Offensive (Unlike Nazi Symbols)

That's a startling amount of countries, including none other than the greatest ally of the United States; the United Kingdom. While the band of nations themselves do not officially recognize Soviet imagery to be an official representative of their nations, parties within her majesties' border do. The most notable of which is the CPGB or the Communist Party of Great Britain. A party that endorses the Labour Party as an ally, the equivalent to the Democratic Party of the United States. The Labour party is also in favour of a sizeable amount of the ideas the CPGB has to offer.

While under Soviet Rule, more death prevailed than in any other country in the history of mankind. But, the iconic hammer and sickle is not exclusive to the Soviet Union, and thus is not just a symbol for the country. It is a symbol for communism, an ideology that many people from around the world support today. From Russia, to China, to England, to our own US, this flag is flown for a different reason than it was 25 years ago, and things change over time. The hammer and sickle are simply not offensive.

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  • AleDeEurope
    Say whatever you want, but under Communism and under the hammer and sickle, more people have been killed than under any other ideology.
    It doesn't matter if not every country committed the same atrocities that the USSR did, it's still what represents: an ideology which consists in the oppression of the people, stripping them from freedom, and at mercy of what the government decides.

    It's not just Soviets who killed and oppressed people, it was Communism, cause the same happened in Cuba, Venezuela, China, N. Korea, Vietnam... Just look at the countries today, that once followed (or still follow) Communism.
    The best example is Korea. Compare North and South. Compare Communism with Capitalism. The immense difference between those two countries is incredible.

    P. S.: Cataluña is still part of Spain.
    Is this still revelant?

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  • QuestionMan
    Communist imagery is offensive to those who were at the mercy of repression.
    • Hello, did you read my post. It describes that many parties who haven't repressed anyone use it.

    • Yes I read the entire thing.
      Just because the CPGB uses the symbol doesn't mean other people won't still associate it with the Soviet Union which was its origin.
      Many Ukrainians find it extremely offensive to this day.

    • Yes, it stands/stood for the Soviet Union, but it ALSO stands for things in many countries. It stands for a huge ideology in the world, and it stands for hope for many people around the globe,

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  • behnam1999
    Communist revolution was not Russian at all, it was an international movement led by atheistical Jews and financed by wealthy capitalist Jews like Jacob Schiff. Yeah that looks absurd at first but this is the reality, communists were supported and financed by powerful Capitalist Jews. About 90 percent of their leaders were Jewish, like Lenin, Leon Trotsky (Real Jewish name: Lev Bronstein). Lenin was Jewish too, it is mentioned by a Jewish Writer named David Shub in his book Lenin:A biography. You know that they were the ones who initiated the first mass killings and soviet Gulags and now because the Jews dominate the media, they have the ability to deceive people, so people won't know about their dirty history. This is why it is said "The history is written by the victors".
  • JRICHARDS1996
    Everything you stated about Soviet imagery can also be applied to Nazi imagery. The swastika for example likewise existed long before the Nazis adopted it, and to this day still does (or did) exist on the flags of regimes in the Arab World that were influenced by fascism. Even so, the fact that so many others use such an atrocious symbol does not make it any less atrocious. It just means that there are more atrocious people in the world than we thought. Even so, I would rather fly the swastika before flying the hammer and sickle.
  • TheFlak38
    Wow... just wow...
    The symbol that represents the most destructive ideology with millions of innocent killed people is not offensive.
    Of course as a jew it is not offensive to you. We all know that communism is a jewish invention. Brought in the world to spread destruction and division everywhere. The ideology that has the opposite of the Midas touch. Whatever they touch it gets destroyed. A clearly materialistic ideology with the sole purpose of making the people of formless mass of life forms destined to work for the state, eat and shit and nothing else.
    #SmashCulturalMarxism
  • FrankReynolds
    The type of Communism I hate is the Stalinist brand.
  • kingarthas
    Turkey was not part of soviets
  • TheSpartan
    The swastika is also not unique to Naziism.
    • I was actually at a Hindu temple once and saw the swastika in its original form.
      Still felt kind of eerie.

    • TheSpartan

      @QuestionMan ha, that's funny.

      I actually read a story about a Neo-Nazi whom drew a graffiti Swastika on a Hindu temple, which is kind of like putting a graffiti cross on a church.

    • Lol it would've been even funnier if the guy was caught in the act and he was told he was doing it wrong.

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