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"This is basically common sense"
For all you people commenting that, try telling that to some women in India or certain parts of Africa who have to avoid cooking or going to school while on their periods because it's a taboo there.
This is a great myTake! I personally hate it when feminazis try to make themselves look like the victim so everyone can pity them. Your article really shows the true meaning of feminism, which would be gender equality.
This is actually a good post.
Actual feminist stuff, no feminazism.
Good take!
Thanks!
Here's the thing. That's how most women feel! Extreme ideas of feminism that involve hatred of men etc, is opinions held by very, very few women!
@Poppykate Unfortunately, the bad ones are always the loudest!
How very true!
Feminism didn't teach you that, you taught yourself. Don't give those parasitic Marxist socialists any credit for your brilliance
Actually, I didn't. I know that many people have had negative experiences with feminism and that feminism is far from perfect. But these positive messages- whether I received them from people in my life, media, books, etc- have always been presented to me in association with feminism, so that's the relationship with feminism that I personally grew up with. There's nothing to disagree with. This is just my personal experience.
I'm sorry, of course, for being tempestuous. I simply think feminism is ruining society by liberating sex amongst alpha males and 80% of women, leaving the worker-drone beta males to check out and crash the west's economy. I love getting laid a ton, but I don't want my inferiors to ruin this country
I bet if you changed the word "feminism" to "equal rights" in the title , no men would be attacking this post but instead praising it. I thought this was a good take
If feminism were actually about equal rights, no men would be attacking this post.
This myTake isn't really about "rights". I'm lucky to have been born during a time where equal "rights" for women were a given. But equal treatment and acceptance are a different matter. That's not to say that men don't have their own problems or that they don't deal with sexism as well, but this myTake is about my personal experience.
@samhradh_leannan I do realize that. Thank you for responding. My comment was more directed at xxmamichulaxx, who seemed to be trying to equate feminism with the pursuit of equal gender rights. My point, which I stand by, is that feminism today has very little to do with gender equality, and if it did push for true equality almost all men would support it. It's frustrating to men that most feminists don't recognize that and instead seem to just want to characterize anyone who speaks out against feminism as misogynists when that is really not true.
@backdoorman her whole take was about how feminism taught her positive things and equality for both genders and that she's not a victim or obligated to be treated better just because she's a female, I think this is something most men would agree with and think her points are valid, modern day westernized feminism is Bullshit , but the original concept of the word "feminist" is defined as equal rights for both genders , and what she wrote here was basically set examples of what old fashioned feminist beliefs were made up as. I guess the modern day version of old fashioned feminism would be egalitarians
@backdoorman I do agree , modern femists beliefs aren't much about equality but instead putting women on top and making them into the victims , and its also not about equality for all races or for trans women either , it has gotten out of hand in western countries and is no longer about helping women and others , modern feminism doesn't focus on womens issues in Afghanistan and Iran or human trafficking, its more focused on freeing the nipple etc. I dont consider this actual feminism
@backdoorman I agree with that. Some feminism today still relates to equal treatment/ equal acceptance (if not equal "rights" exactly) but the feminism that is prominent and gets the most attention is much more negative.
@xxmamichulaxx @samhradh_leannan I think at the end of the day we are close to being on the same page. Thanks for "talking" with me. :)
A very good post , I would regard you as egalitarian , rather than a feminist , as per the most recent incarnation of feminism , which is anti - male , esp males of European extraction.
Well stated! I've had much the same experience with feminism and I'm thankful for it.
There we go... Another gen of a MyTake.
Love it. :)
Good mytake, I am anti-feminist but honestly glad that you got some good things from it.
You're not a feminist, you're an egalitarian. None of those things you learned are inherently feminist. Those are views held by decent people.
You don't need feminism to teach you those lessons.
They are inherently feminist in the sense of traditional, old fashioned feminism (which, yes, is essentially egalitarianism, but was called feminism originally). I understand that most feminism these days is rather different, but this type does still exist. These messages were always delivered to me in association with "feminism", so that's the relationship with feminism that I personally formed.
All you pointed out were basic points that you should already know as an adult. Why did you need an entire movement full of millions of people to understand simplicity?
You only had one valid point here (#6).
Historically, it has not always been a given that those things are true. In fact, it's STILL not always a given for every woman. But regardless of that, I'm not arguing that nobody could potentially reach those conclusions without the assistance of feminism. I'm sure many people do. However, these positive messages- whether I received them from people in my life, media, books, etc- have always been presented to me in association with feminism, so that's the relationship with feminism that I personally grew up with. I feel that feminism has benefited me because I'm not sure that I would have received those positive influences without the involvement of feminism. But that's just my personal experience.
I've yet to met an adult with his/her head on who doesn't understand simplicity such as be fair in your relationship.
"I'm not sure that I would have received those positive influences without the involvement of feminism. But that's just my personal experience."
That's what I thought, so the problem here is you. Not sure if it's because of low self-esteem but you need a "positive" message constantly pushed at you by millions of feminists to reach this conclusion. That's not good.
You may not have met those people, but I have. I've spoken with them in person and I've spoken with them online. The concept of gender equality is what has resulted in the idea that relationships should be mutual and fair. Would you like every girl you date to expect you to pay for everything 100% of the time, just because you're the guy?
This isn't about self esteem or needing messages "constantly" pushed at me in order to be happy. It's about the role feminism played in shaping my values and beliefs while I was growing up and developing into the person I am today. Every person is shaped by influences throughout their lives, especially as they're growing up.
It's great that you think these concepts are so obvious that nobody should ever need to be told about them. But that hasn't been the case, and there are still people out there who are more traditional or closed minded and don't have that type of awareness.
I don't know what kind of retrograded secluded society you've met these people but I haven't unless we mention trolls. You're the typical feminist that thinks anyone who doesn't believe what you believe is a misogynist. The trolls probably have field days with you...
Your "gender equality" hasn't resulted in the idea of fair relationships, that concept has already been around. You mentioned traditional in the same negative light as close minded and lacking some type of "awareness", you just proved yourself to be the typical feminist I described you as.
The truth is, the "traditional" people have a FAR better understanding of an equal relationship that the modern day feminist. If that wasn't the truth men would have a much better response towards dating feminists.
I'm not supporting "modern day feminism" or claiming that the type of feminism you're referring to is the type that taught me these lessons.
That doesn't make any sense. Modern day feminist is the type of feminism that exists today, if you don't support that then you're not really a feminist.
There are many different "types" of feminists today. You're obviously focusing primarily on the feminazi, man-hating type of feminism and yes, that type does exist. But traditional feminism is not extinct, and that's the type of feminism that I personally experienced growing up.
Literally everything you said makes NO sense.
I'm not focused on any "type" of feminism. There are three waves of feminism, the feminism today is third-wave feminism. I see this third wave nonsense and what it represents which is what you call the "feminazi" when that's really what all third wave is.
The first and second waves that you are stuck on, took place, got their needs met and disappeared all before you were born. It's impossible for you to experience "traditional" feminism, since the times of traditionalism took place before you even existed!
Plus, how can there be there be many "types" if it's only ONE movement? You just exposed your movement to be individually selfish since there is division in feminism and groups of people have their own meanings to define that movement.
FEMINISM IS OCCULT IN NATURE STUDY YOUR HISTORY WOW
GET OUT OF IT
Are you confusing feminism with wicca? There is nothing occult about feminism.
what did I just say study your history it was purposely done
and i believe the same goes for MGTOW
get out of it
No type of feminism that I have ever been exposed to has had anything to do with the occult. Nor have I ever seen anything occult about MGTOW.
it was created before you where born do your research
Who says I haven't? I really think you may be co fusing feminism with Wicca if you think there is anything occult at the core of it.
hun do some research on the Rockefellers and feminism
they did it purposely to separate man and women they are occultist who literally follow Satan
GENESIS 3:15
The LORD said unto the serpent I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and HER SEED it shall crush thy head, and thou shalt strike his heel
GOD just said that one of eve's kids is gonna crush the serpents head
so he will try to stop it anyway he can
LGBT
WAR
DISEASE
ABORTION
the list goes on
study it out
Maybe one specific group, but not feminism in general.
you need understand there is a section of women in there who are occultist hands down
but they are bringing GOOD WOMEN that are just lost and frustrated to this cause which is stupid it will only cause separation of men and women
same with MGTOW like I understand them to an extent
but i will listen to GOD, and I wanna love women
I believe the same has happened to them
some occultist came up and brought good men to there cause so when i hear all those MGTOW and Feminism post
I get mad, sad and frustrated cause they have not studied it out
2 Timothy 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth
I want them to be a family
and shove it in the devils face
haha are enjoyment is your punishment lol
So your idea of "historical research" is reading the bible.
Enough said.
everything lines up with the Bible name something
Nowadays you wouldn't learn 1, 2, and 4 from feminism. That's where the stigma comes from.
These are all lessons from the good old feminism.
That really depends on the type of feminism one is exposed to, and old fashioned feminism is not completely extinct. But yes, some types of feminism do promote negative messages.
Any post about feminism is pathetic. If you need feminism to teach you all this shit, you're a pathetic human been. In fact, if anything, feminism makes women look.
Feminism makes women look? Yikes. How dare those feminists make women look!
Every person is influenced by things while they are growing up. Some girls aren't taught these types of values. I'm grateful that I was. In my case, these messages were presented to me in association with feminism, so that's the relationship with feminism that I personally formed.
Look inferior I was tryna say
Women are supposed to feel as such at a young age. All these things with penis envy are part of female sexual maturation. Feminism can't teach you anything in fact it makes it much more worst for you. Because subconsciously, your brain is telling you, if I need a group/organization to make me feel better (which it doesn't) I'm probably inferior.
Are women naturally inferior, or does feminism make women look inferior? It can't be both.
It can definetly be both. In fact, there are more chances that it's both. Anyway, what I was saying is that feminism make women look inferior.
Look and feel inferior*
Feminism has never made me feel inferior.
Yes! You do right now and you don't realize. Actually you probably do realize it, but just like every women, you're manipulative and vindictive so there isn't a shred of honesty in you. That a TRUE inferior complex.
Lol wow.
“Positive Lessons That” Nazism “Taught Me.” Nazism” is a controversial subject these days…” “I grew up with the idea of” Nazism “as a positive notion…” I never agreed with the brown shirts or the concentration camps but Nazism was a positive lesson for me. I post this under “the banner” of the swastika because the symbol was derived from a symbol for peace. WOW-This take is some kind of twisted demented logic.
@roamer Come one now. I know that some feminism is really negative, but comparing it to nazism is just uncalled for. Especially if we're talking about traditional, old fashioned feminism. Which we are.
@samhradh_leannan You lack the experience of personal disaster that your evil word has wrought for so many by braking up families and living through, growing up in a personal hell and in one case losing a sibling over. But you still seek to promote this crap. You promote your disease with such sickening blissful ignorance and arrogance. No, Nazism is too light of a comparison for many you disassociated follower. You obviously never tasted the wrath of your crap you serve. @samhradh_leannan
@ edit me-- breaking
@roamer I personally don't "serve" anything. I don't even necessarily consider myself a feminist, which you'd know if you read the whole myTake. The point I'm trying to make is that certain types of feminism can be positive, and people who are reluctant to turn against feminism or allow feminazis to hijack the title may have had experiences similar to mine. I specifically stated in the myTake that I don't promote misandry or any other negative impact that feminism can have. If you want to view this issue as black and white, and bite my head off because I'm not willing to renounce every single feminist influence as pure evil, then that's your choice, but it will not help anything or anyone.
Shut up! You're a feminist so just own it!
There isn't any positivity in such a terrible movement and you're exactly what feminists are, hypocrites. You know how terrible of a movement feminism is so you don't want to be refered to as one. Why don't you call yourself a good feminist. It's because deep down you know what a terrible movement feminism is and you want to try and justify it. How pathetic can you get and if I was you, I would have shut up by now instead of repeating myself a 1000 times. However, that's the problem with feminist, they don't know when to shut up, they think If they repeat them themselves thinking it will make a difference. It only does for people who are stupid. Now go ahead and report me because i told you to shut up. It's pathetic.
I can't have a conversation with a person who thinks that telling me who I am or what I think is a productive way to communicate.
@samhradh_leannan Not a feminist at this moment, then why don’t you learn a new vocabulary? Why don’t you stand on your own as an independent woman and not require association with such a controversial “banner” as you hail and I think serve by doing so. Why don’t you just say it the way it is without feminism holding your hand? I associate with many tough strong minded self sufficient women that do not require some Marxists/feminists to take care of them and tell them what to do and they vehemently condemn feminism. I would hate to think what would happen if you waved your “banner” in their faces. These women are self standing unlike you it seems. I think this opinion owner tapped into the real answer. You require this association at arm’s length and the virtual support you believe it provides because as this opinion owner pointed out correctly you are masking your own insecurity. continued
There are many opinions on here that nailed it by simply asking why didn’t you learn these things (BTW have always been simple common sense to a country gal) on your own with your own individual mind? Is real (and not perceived bs) individuality the most significant discerning parameter between most men and women?--you make me wonder.. Do you need to associate (at lease in your discussion) with this group to have an identity? Why is it required to follow a predefined frame work outline by others with ulterior agendas and then back pedal to repair their defective works? And what the hell is “traditional, old fashioned feminism”—tying to slide that one under the tent unnoticed are ya? Just put all those words close together like jambalaya so that the association grows on the weak minded and is eventually accepted. continued
Get real, fess up—it is your promotional slogan in development for your cushier forth wave push. Just cut the crap and reach down in and attempt to speak with some realism and sincerity. Also, don’t concern yourself with the feminazis as if an excuse for being a savior, they have been given plenty of rope. @samhradh_leannan END
@roamer I have nothing to fess up to. This is how I experienced feminism, and that's how I know that there is a positive side of it. I have never promoted misandry or feminazism, and I never will. This myTake is about my experience, period- if you can't except it or you don't want to hear about it, you're free to go.
@edit me Don’t ==to== I wouldn’t
I mostly agree, you seem like on of those feminists (equalists) who actually don't hate men. I only don't agree with the last one, because women nowadays are not only equal, but even more privileged than men.
Did you happen to see how many women voted for Trump? I'm afraid being a woman IS a weakness.
I'm really not sure how you're drawing that conclusion.
women r hypocrites, we cry about equal treatment an then vote for a misogynist.
I agree that Trump is a misogynist and I also find it unbelievable that any women would vote for him. But it's not a simple issue. There are a lot of reasons why people vote the way they do.
There's no controversy only guys complaining. Girls are having their way all day. Who really gives a shit. As long as I fuck - I can care less
... maybe when/if you have a daughter of your own, your opinion may change.
@Poppykate No. Hell no. No marriage. No kids. This the way it has to be in the "new age". The women want it their way and I want it my way - It's just that simple. No fuck trophies for me.
Ok sweetie. Take a deep breath. I think you are getting yourself workup! You will have a heart attack before you are 40. Everyone has a life choice. And that's yours! Good for you!
@Poppykate Yes, you scared the hell out of me. I'm good now (:
That a boy! *slap on back* You'll be alright mate.
@Poppykate "Slap on back"? Mate? That's some cute lingo you have there (;
Thanks! ☺️ The slap on back was an action
"Feminism is cancer." - Milo Yiannopoulos
it is known so diferent
Feminism made women slutty.