Why the Anti-Vaccine Movement is Bullshit! (Page 2)

[adipy_ABDHP-1371531Q]

I'm against vaccines. There is no proof that they offer protection. How can you know what will prevent a disease to start with when you can't prove that if you didn't take the vaccine, that you would have gotten the disease due to being unvaccinated? Maybe you wouldn't have received the disease to start with.

[kungpow89]

My god, I'm trying to educate you people on this stuff but y'all are making it difficult haha. "There is no proof that they offer protection." -Really lmao? Ok, then how did smallpox disappear? Why did the disease magically disappear after an intensive program of worldwide vaccinations? I'm all ears!

[adipy_ABDHP-1371531Q]

You can't prove that the people who were vaccinated would have gotten smallpox if they hadn't got vaccinated. You can never know who would have received the disease anyways.

[adipy_ABDHP-1371531Q]

You're not trying to educate. You're trying to bully people who are against vaccines and think of them as dangerous people.

[adipy_ABDHP-1371531Q]

You can't say you didn't get smallpox because you were vaccinated. You may not have gotten smallpox anyways if you were not vaccinated.

[kungpow89]

Sigh. Smallpox doesn't even exist anymore thanks to vaccines. Dude, they have experimental studies proving the efficacy of vaccines. Here's one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22032844

I don't understand why everyone is attacking me. I'm presenting the current scientific consensus on the efficacy of vaccines. I'm simply trying to help educate the public. People want to think that I'm a bully and the enemy. *Throws up hands* Ok, fine, people can think whatever they want of me. The evidence is all there. Vaccines have saved lives and made the world a safer place. I'm deeply discouraged by the ignorance and fear mogering about a modern medical miracle. Hey, at least I tried.

[adipy_ABDHP-1371531Q]

That's not evidence. Other people have studies proving they're dangerous. You just pick a side. It's like creation vs evolution. People pick sides.

There's no proof that the people who took the vaccines would not have gotten smallpox or whatever if they didn't take the vaccine.

[kungpow89]

A scientific study isn't evidence lmao? I have a bachelor's and master's degree in biology, I can assure you that a scientific study is indeed evidence. Sure, I've picked a side. I've picked the side backed by evidence. On one side is 2+2=4 and on the other side is 2+2=5. I've picked the first one since it is demonstably true. I've read the studies "proving" (you're not allowed to say that in a study btw) that vaccines are dangerous. They're bogus, biased and misleading.

Look, you could say that about anything. How do you know that the seatbelt saved your life in the car accident? How do you know that eating food kept you alive? That is not a good way to disprove the efficacy of vaccines.

[adipy_ABDHP-1371531Q]

Of course you're going to say it's bogus and biased. It's the opposite side that you believe in. There's much studies showing vaccines are dangerous. You just choose to ignore the anti vaxers side.

[adipy_ABDHP-1371531Q]

Wait until I'm able to send you links of the studies and you'll see them first hand.

[MissMillionDollarMan]

you know what else is dangerous? loading yourself or your kids up with vaccines all at once thus increasing risks of a bad reaction.
Educate yourself on auto immune diseases and their triggers then come talk to me.
Also you sound legit crazy.

[alice55]

I do none of the vaccine unless it's an compulsory one. It always get me sick so i stopped doing them.

[AngelLove85]

I would rather die of the flu than get a flu shot. Your body needs germs, bacteria, and viruses to fight off illnesses.

[alice55]

@AngelLove85 ? You mean I should so them?
I'm always sick anyway, I have a weak constitution so my body is kind of used to be sick

[kungpow89]

Fair enough. In what ways do vaccines get you sick?

[alice55]

If I get a vaccine for a sickness then I get this sickness it's very boring since normally I shouldn't get sick.

[Anonymous]

You have a "BS Degree" 😂😂 Also, the "A love for One Direction" part made me giggle. I'm not so sure how I feel on this subject, there is evidence to support both sides.

[kungpow89]

"You have a 'BS Degree' " - Haha, I hear you. "BS" does sound funny. "BS" stands for "Bachelor of Science" not Bull... I'm sure you get it lmao. Thanks, I like to throw in a little humor here and there, ya know, to keep it interesting. ;P

I do understand your skepticism on the subject. The problem is that there is soooo much misinformation on vaccines. Do vaccines cause problems in some people? Yep, they do, I've never disputed that. However, there is no substantial evidence linking vaccines to autism. On the pro-vaccine side, there are numerous peer-reviewed papers that found no conclusive link between vaccines and autism. On the anti-vaccine side, there are YouTube videos (which prove nothing since anyone can make one) and stories about family members (which are also not particularly credible). Here's a pdf citing 20 studies that found no link between vaccines and autism: https://www. immunize. org/catg. d/p4026. pdf (you have to delete the spaces GAG puts in). Cheers.

[hsshannah96]

You left out that they CAN in rare cases cause encephalopathy which can look like autism and then kids get misdiagnosed

[Anonymous]

I will be sure to pass this info on to all of the people here...

https://t.me/s/covidvaccinevictims

[Anonymous]

Right on. Yes, it's bullshit.

[kungpow89]

Awesome. Thank you. People like you give me hope. :)

[scooogy]

My little brother used to hide under the tables whenever vaccination was to be done, and I was considered autistic later on (by a non-certified "doctor").

[razor97]

Autism is not, contrary to popular belief, caused by vaccinations.
A study was done that was published in the Lancet, but that study was subsequently repudiated

[KingRamesses]

One question- How are people going to boost immunity effectively without vaccination? I think there is no close substitute.

[kungpow89]

Ah, good question. The answer is: unfortunately, you can't. I mean, you can take good care of yourself, eat healthy, exercise, etc. That will keep your immune system in decent shape, but it won't offer high protection against any particular infectious disease. The only 2 ways to effectively protect yourself from an infectious disease are 1) isolate yourself from sick people and 2) get vaccinated. That's about it, really.

You're right, there really is no close substitute to vaccines (which of course are not 100% effective). A vaccine will absolutely effectively boost one's immunity against a specific illness like polio, rubella, measles, etc. Granted, your body will naturally boost its immunity against a disease after having already gotten the disease. I certainly wouldn't recommend it of course since some of these diseases can cause long-term damage or even kill in some cases. It's just not a risk I'd personally feel comfortable taking. Vaccines are often the way to go.

[Anonymous]

Very informative mytake!

[kungpow89]

Thank you! :)

[smahala1991]

Totally agree. I had my shots and Im fine

[kungpow89]

Yeah, exactly. This panic with vaccines seems totally overblown and irrational haha.

[Steve-the-lion]

I'm a proud anti vaxxer and I do not believe any of your horse shit.

[Anonymous]

The man who exposed them recorded them faking their tests. They got results that it did so they re-did the tests to suit the results they wanted.

[douride2]

I couldn't agree more.