I'm pretty sure she's well aware. Many people have critically analyzed feminism and saw its flaws. What's more likely is you have a block when it comes to listening to what the other side is saying. It's totally cool if you want to say living in your comfortable bubble. If you want to look objectively, this may give you insight. www.youtube.com/watch
@juliaanita Offended huh? I'm actually a pretty open listener. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion after looking at information. Did you watch the video?
so katrina, I have a good question for you. Thats cool, you want a man with traditional values. will you cook, clean and do laundry for this man with no question?
Just extremely self centered. I'm sure you would think the exact same thing if the tables were turned or if woman didn't show any type of courteous behavior towards you. If you can't lend a jacket, then don't expect her to lend you any type of help when real issues come up. If your car breaks down outside her house and its snowing like heavy, and there's no way to get home.. do you expect her to be courteous and say come inside and wait until the storm is over or just stick in a freezing ass car all night until you can change the tire? I mean its your fault for not getting the car checked before coming out right? Got own up to that responsibility.
@BrittBratt2416 "I'm sure you would think the exact same thing if the tables were turned or if woman didn't show any type of courteous behavior towards you."
Don't the majority of America women already dismiss men as bumbling losers and potential sex offenders/rapists/pedophiles?
@Incompatible pretty sure if they did I wouldn't see women getting married or having babies where I live lol Pretty sure I would be single if I thought that about every man in America. So no we majority of women in America do not think that at all..
@BrittBratt2416 ''I'm sure you would think the exact same thing if the tables were turned or if woman''
actually I would, because I take responsibility lol
. ''If you can't lend a jacket, then don't expect her to lend you any type of help when real issues come up''
and here comes the strawman examples...
''If your car breaks down outside her house and its snowing like heavy, and there's no way to get home..' actually I would help that person. Why wouldn't I give someone my coat? well first of all, I have some health issues that make me cautious to just be giving my coats away in the cold because someone forgot theirs. If someone is cold and needs to come inside my house that is fine, man or women. its not like I have to outside if I let them in. men shouldn't put their health on the line just because you are a women. Its just that if I am in the cold my health comes first. Im sorry, am I bad for looking out for my personal health? you forgot your coat, not me.
No you just took it as an insult but whatever... stay mad I guess. Nah that's just an excuse.. you won't lend a coat but will let them come inside? I would lend my coat and let the person come inside so what do you have to say that? And I have before.
@BrittBratt2416 well letting someone inside is a bit different than just lending a coat. When you let someone inside, its not like you are out there in the cold with no jacket on. If I am out in the cold and decide to give my jacket away then what about my health? are you saying a womens health is more important than mines? I'll let someone in the house after checking to see if they are a threat. After that, I'll let them in. why? because if I let them in its not the same as giving my jacket in the cold. my health comes first.
Are you saying your your girlfriends health isn't important either if she ask you? Pretty sure you're not gonna catch a cold that fast, colds come from viruses not the air itself. Plus women are naturally colder than men, we get colder faster and quicker than you, my boyfriend is a freaking toaster but he still lends me his jacket anyways. And you're acting like its life or death situation, I'm sure lending your jacket just that one time ain't gonna fucking kill you. I rarely ask my boyfriend for his jacket, the only times I asked for it is when the temperature suddenly changed out of no where. But for the most part I don't ask for his jacket.
@BrittBratt2416 Actually, we men havbe more logic than women. A hell of a lot more. We don't think with our "feels", unlike women like you, which is partially why this country is in the shape it is today. Women like you have goaded men into being more feminine, in a desperate bid to attreact women, and still you want more and more.
You have taken over our educational institutions, filled them with feminist rhetortic, you have gained political power, and have passed laws demonizing men. You have chased the majority of men from college campuses, and hijacked them to become breeding grounds of marxist radical feminism.
And still you want more. We have given you your spaces when you have asked us men to leave you alone, because you feel harrased. What do you do? You INVADE OUR SPACES INSTEAD.
So we men finally walk away from it all. What to you women do?
Shame, abuse, and denigrate us.
You don't think we can see this shit? You don't think this is obvious to us?
It's just not white men, it's latinos, blacks, Asians, it's all of us men that are catching onto women's bullshit.
You're privielged enough. You're already equal. What the fuck more do you want? Our sperm count to decline? Our deaths? What is it that you women want?
@Incompatible Dude don't even go there with me, I'm not a feminist, damn I swear every time a woman disagrees with you guys you always have to bring up some dumb feminist bullshit. I don't agree with today's feminist.. like holy shit you're really comparing lending a jacket to radical feminist who really strive to kill the male image and get rid of masculinity? Like bro come on.. please.. and if you actually looked through my question on my profile you would see that I think men don't have a lot rights either as compared to men. So please stop with your unnecessary bitching..
@BrittBratt2416 Oh please. The majory of women i have met have proved to me personally, and from my own personal observations that they are not for equality. Men have caught on. Chivalry is dead in America. Both men and women are at fault. And it is moreso the feminist's fault, as they've caused a division between the sexes.
I for one am fine with this division. I'll just sit back and watch society collapse (it's already happening) and I will not lift nary a finger to help.
No - chivalry isn't a tradition. "Men behaving courteously toward women — holding the door for them, offering them their jackets when it's cold — is called chivalry" and that is what I want in a man; who chooses to do the things mentioned for me as a choice and not because he has to, it needs to be within his nature to be that way. In my opinion, chivalry is a trait and that is my preference in a man.
But since you've asked; in return for the perfect guy I would be the perfect woman - it's as simple as that - and whatever that may entail would be subject to us getting to know each other and exploring that.
@Incompatible are the majority of women all women in the world? Cause you have not met me, you just assume I'm like every woman cause of this conversation. And which one is it? first you say its men and women that are at fault then say its mostly feminist fault which are women. So is it women's fault or men's fault? When feminist rose up is was about women just being able to work with men, thats it. Thats all it should have ever been, but women still wanted to be treated with respect. But you and crazy out of control feminist have twisted it and make it this anti male propaganda.
@BrittBratt2416 why dont you bring your jacket? what, are you a kid or something? Im almost certain that I would have not put myself in the position to be with a girl who forgets her jacket when its cold outside as she clearly doesn't care about the fact that one, she will be cold and two, is inconsiderate to the fact that her boyfriend will be cold because people like you think the girl is obligated to the jacket.
@Katerina_Belle so its in a mans nature to be chivalrous, but a women not to be a caretaker? you also brought the example of him paying for meals. And Chivalry Sure is traditional, its what this nation was founded on. The only downside to men treating you like a queen was, you would have no rights. So you want the privilege but you dont want what is supposed to come with it.
I didn't say it's in every man's nature to be chivalrous or not. I said it's a trait that some have and some may not. Get it right dude...
And if you still lack understanding of it and need further help then let me explain... just the way it's a trait to trust people easily and it's also therefore in that person's nature to trust easily... and that's how I see chivalry, a trait which is courteous behaviour and in that man's nature.
As for paying for meals; he would be the one to ask me out on a date, so he should pay; if I asked him out then I should pay - it's as simple as that. But also, him being a chivalrous man wouldn't let me pay because it's courtesy and in my perspective and what I want in a guy shows that he chooses to look after me, despite me not asking or needing him to.
What do you mean by "you want the privilege but you dont want what is supposed to come with it" 1) Who are you to decide the "what is supposed to come with it", if you're not even the guy concerned? 2) And didn't I make it clear enough by saying that: "in return for the perfect guy I would be the perfect woman - it's as simple as that - and whatever that may entail would be subject to us getting to know each other and exploring that."
I don't know wth you're on about this entire privilege thing anyway; just stfu now, I already said above in myTake that "that's my personal view for which I quite frankly don't want to be challenged because I'm entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours."
So why are you: 3) Challenging my preferences in a guy? 4) Who are you to even say it's wrong? I like what I like and you are no one to say it's wrong, bad, unfair etc, especially when it has NOTHING, zelch, nada, to do with you!
@BrittBratt2416 I assume that every woman is like this becaue of their attitude towars men. I do not engage my gelame coworkes unless it is strictly for business. Nothing else, uunless i'm being asked to be imprisoned for a false rape accusation. As for me, I don't twist shit. I go by facts and experience.
@Incompatible And because of my experiences should I believe all men are the same? That all men only care about sex and are low keys dogs? I had some terrible experiences with men myself but that has not made me angry or bitter towards men at all. I love men but im quick to tell them they are some bullshit the same way I tell women and feminist.
@BrittBratt2416 most men of "my kind" and generaton actually ARE low key, down low dogs. Actually, lower than dogs. They'yre lower than dirt. But yet they're the ones who are cherished. Men like i, who view the world with a bigger picture, are aware of what's going on, not living their lives in ignorant bliss, and calling shit out when need be, seem to be the most hated ones.
But at this point, i no longer give two flying fucks about anything anymore. Everything and everyone has been turned on its head, nobody knows what fucking gender they are, things are so fucking insane that it's amazing. And i have watched this transformation happenin the last 12-22 years i've been on tis fucked up ball of rock.
@Incompatible Yes it is sad that there are women and men like that, always using people and not caring about someone's feelings. I agree, Its very sad now people are trying to say men can be women and vise versa.
''I didn't say it's in every man's nature to be chivalrous or not. I said it's a trait that some have and some may not. Get it right dude...''
I meant to say so you want it to be in his nature, as in, that is what you like? and what if the guy wanted you to be the idea of a traditional women? English is not my first language so certain phrases so I tend to make mistakes.. I get what you are saying though
''so he should pay; if I asked him out then I should pay - it's as simple as that. ''
well you are wrong for this part of the communication as all you stated in the take was ''pay for me etc'' which basically made it seem like, well you want him to pay for you lol. Thats where the traditional part came in. Who am I to say what comes with it? well, its only fair.. otherwise, she is just a gold digger
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It sounds like a lot of hot air from a woman who fundamentally doesn't understand the goals of feminism.
I'm pretty sure she's well aware. Many people have critically analyzed feminism and saw its flaws. What's more likely is you have a block when it comes to listening to what the other side is saying. It's totally cool if you want to say living in your comfortable bubble. If you want to look objectively, this may give you insight.
www.youtube.com/watch
@cavmanier ... says someone who surely has no block when it comes to listening to what the other side is saying...
Are you the pot or the kettle?
@juliaanita Offended huh? I'm actually a pretty open listener. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion after looking at information. Did you watch the video?
Portlandia? I'm not surprised you'd be upset lol
Actually, many women seriously cannot handle equality...
''As a woman I want chivalry from a man, I want him to hold open the door, give me his jacket if it's cold, pay for me''
nah im good
You really wouldn't offer your jacket if your date got cold?
@BrittBratt2416 what if im cold? i have to end up getting sick because someone forgot their jacket?
Really man.. I get easily cold all the time and that's even when I wear long sleeves. It's called being courteous.
@BrittBratt2416 and also called treating yourself like a second class citizen. Do I also have to give up my seat on the bus?
Sigh just forget it. Men these days..
I didn't say I expected that from you 🙄 So you can be good all you want lol
I simply stated that it's my preference in a man and not that every guy out there should be like that... you do you.
@BrittBratt2416 dont blame us, its not our fault that you forgot your jacket. Take some responsibility. women these days..
so katrina, I have a good question for you. Thats cool, you want a man with traditional values. will you cook, clean and do laundry for this man with no question?
Just extremely self centered. I'm sure you would think the exact same thing if the tables were turned or if woman didn't show any type of courteous behavior towards you. If you can't lend a jacket, then don't expect her to lend you any type of help when real issues come up. If your car breaks down outside her house and its snowing like heavy, and there's no way to get home.. do you expect her to be courteous and say come inside and wait until the storm is over or just stick in a freezing ass car all night until you can change the tire? I mean its your fault for not getting the car checked before coming out right? Got own up to that responsibility.
@BrittBratt2416 "I'm sure you would think the exact same thing if the tables were turned or if woman didn't show any type of courteous behavior towards you."
Don't the majority of America women already dismiss men as bumbling losers and potential sex offenders/rapists/pedophiles?
@Incompatible pretty sure if they did I wouldn't see women getting married or having babies where I live lol Pretty sure I would be single if I thought that about every man in America. So no we majority of women in America do not think that at all..
@BrittBratt2416 That contradicts what i am seeing.
@Incompatible What then you're obviously seeing wrong.. please get some glassy. Also if your going by the feminist bullcrap then please stop.
glasses
@BrittBratt2416 Uh, I already wear glasses. And if you're going to sit here and insult me, then please, don't spreak to me at all.
@Incompatible you started speaking to me, I didn't start speaking to you.. so take your own advice.
@BrittBratt2416 "please get some glassy" And you don't think that's an insult towards me? Forget it. I'm done.
@Incompatible No.. stop being sensitive man lol Do you not know what sarcasm is? XD Bye.
@BrittBratt2416 Sarcasm is a type of insult.
@BrittBratt2416 ''I'm sure you would think the exact same thing if the tables were turned or if woman''
actually I would, because I take responsibility lol
. ''If you can't lend a jacket, then don't expect her to lend you any type of help when real issues come up''
and here comes the strawman examples...
''If your car breaks down outside her house and its snowing like heavy, and there's no way to get home..'
actually I would help that person. Why wouldn't I give someone my coat? well first of all, I have some health issues that make me cautious to just be giving my coats away in the cold because someone forgot theirs. If someone is cold and needs to come inside my house that is fine, man or women. its not like I have to outside if I let them in. men shouldn't put their health on the line just because you are a women. Its just that if I am in the cold my health comes first. Im sorry, am I bad for looking out for my personal health? you forgot your coat, not me.
No you just took it as an insult but whatever... stay mad I guess. Nah that's just an excuse.. you won't lend a coat but will let them come inside? I would lend my coat and let the person come inside so what do you have to say that? And I have before.
@BrittBratt2416 well letting someone inside is a bit different than just lending a coat. When you let someone inside, its not like you are out there in the cold with no jacket on. If I am out in the cold and decide to give my jacket away then what about my health? are you saying a womens health is more important than mines? I'll let someone in the house after checking to see if they are a threat. After that, I'll let them in. why? because if I let them in its not the same as giving my jacket in the cold. my health comes first.
Are you saying your your girlfriends health isn't important either if she ask you? Pretty sure you're not gonna catch a cold that fast, colds come from viruses not the air itself. Plus women are naturally colder than men, we get colder faster and quicker than you, my boyfriend is a freaking toaster but he still lends me his jacket anyways. And you're acting like its life or death situation, I'm sure lending your jacket just that one time ain't gonna fucking kill you. I rarely ask my boyfriend for his jacket, the only times I asked for it is when the temperature suddenly changed out of no where. But for the most part I don't ask for his jacket.
plus what if your not even cold at all but she is, you still wouldn't kindly offer it to her?
@Anonymousit;s pointless arguing with this woman and her backwards ass logic. Just let it go.
Quit entertaining the fool.
@Incompatible backward ass logic.. something you guys show on this site a lot yourselves.. whatever..
@BrittBratt2416 Actually, we men havbe more logic than women. A hell of a lot more. We don't think with our "feels", unlike women like you, which is partially why this country is in the shape it is today. Women like you have goaded men into being more feminine, in a desperate bid to attreact women, and still you want more and more.
You have taken over our educational institutions, filled them with feminist rhetortic, you have gained political power, and have passed laws demonizing men. You have chased the majority of men from college campuses, and hijacked them to become breeding grounds of marxist radical feminism.
And still you want more. We have given you your spaces when you have asked us men to leave you alone, because you feel harrased. What do you do? You INVADE OUR SPACES INSTEAD.
So we men finally walk away from it all. What to you women do?
Shame, abuse, and denigrate us.
You don't think we can see this shit? You don't think this is obvious to us?
It's just not white men, it's latinos, blacks, Asians, it's all of us men that are catching onto women's bullshit.
You're privielged enough. You're already equal. What the fuck more do you want? Our sperm count to decline? Our deaths? What is it that you women want?
@Incompatible Dude don't even go there with me, I'm not a feminist, damn I swear every time a woman disagrees with you guys you always have to bring up some dumb feminist bullshit. I don't agree with today's feminist.. like holy shit you're really comparing lending a jacket to radical feminist who really strive to kill the male image and get rid of masculinity? Like bro come on.. please.. and if you actually looked through my question on my profile you would see that I think men don't have a lot rights either as compared to men. So please stop with your unnecessary bitching..
women not men.
@BrittBratt2416 Oh please. The majory of women i have met have proved to me personally, and from my own personal observations that they are not for equality. Men have caught on. Chivalry is dead in America. Both men and women are at fault. And it is moreso the feminist's fault, as they've caused a division between the sexes.
I for one am fine with this division. I'll just sit back and watch society collapse (it's already happening) and I will not lift nary a finger to help.
No - chivalry isn't a tradition.
"Men behaving courteously toward women — holding the door for them, offering them their jackets when it's cold — is called chivalry" and that is what I want in a man; who chooses to do the things mentioned for me as a choice and not because he has to, it needs to be within his nature to be that way. In my opinion, chivalry is a trait and that is my preference in a man.
But since you've asked; in return for the perfect guy I would be the perfect woman - it's as simple as that - and whatever that may entail would be subject to us getting to know each other and exploring that.
@Incompatible are the majority of women all women in the world? Cause you have not met me, you just assume I'm like every woman cause of this conversation. And which one is it? first you say its men and women that are at fault then say its mostly feminist fault which are women. So is it women's fault or men's fault? When feminist rose up is was about women just being able to work with men, thats it. Thats all it should have ever been, but women still wanted to be treated with respect. But you and crazy out of control feminist have twisted it and make it this anti male propaganda.
@BrittBratt2416 why dont you bring your jacket? what, are you a kid or something? Im almost certain that I would have not put myself in the position to be with a girl who forgets her jacket when its cold outside as she clearly doesn't care about the fact that one, she will be cold and two, is inconsiderate to the fact that her boyfriend will be cold because people like you think the girl is obligated to the jacket.
@Katerina_Belle so its in a mans nature to be chivalrous, but a women not to be a caretaker? you also brought the example of him paying for meals. And Chivalry Sure is traditional, its what this nation was founded on. The only downside to men treating you like a queen was, you would have no rights. So you want the privilege but you dont want what is supposed to come with it.
I didn't say it's in every man's nature to be chivalrous or not. I said it's a trait that some have and some may not. Get it right dude...
And if you still lack understanding of it and need further help then let me explain... just the way it's a trait to trust people easily and it's also therefore in that person's nature to trust easily... and that's how I see chivalry, a trait which is courteous behaviour and in that man's nature.
As for paying for meals; he would be the one to ask me out on a date, so he should pay; if I asked him out then I should pay - it's as simple as that. But also, him being a chivalrous man wouldn't let me pay because it's courtesy and in my perspective and what I want in a guy shows that he chooses to look after me, despite me not asking or needing him to.
What do you mean by "you want the privilege but you dont want what is supposed to come with it"
1) Who are you to decide the "what is supposed to come with it", if you're not even the guy concerned?
2) And didn't I make it clear enough by saying that: "in return for the perfect guy I would be the perfect woman - it's as simple as that - and whatever that may entail would be subject to us getting to know each other and exploring that."
I don't know wth you're on about this entire privilege thing anyway; just stfu now, I already said above in myTake that "that's my personal view for which I quite frankly don't want to be challenged because I'm entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours."
So why are you:
3) Challenging my preferences in a guy?
4) Who are you to even say it's wrong? I like what I like and you are no one to say it's wrong, bad, unfair etc, especially when it has NOTHING, zelch, nada, to do with you!
@BrittBratt2416 I assume that every woman is like this becaue of their attitude towars men. I do not engage my gelame coworkes unless it is strictly for business. Nothing else, uunless i'm being asked to be imprisoned for a false rape accusation. As for me, I don't twist shit. I go by facts and experience.
@BrittBratt2416 goddamn fucking autocorrect
*Towards*
*female*
*unless*
@Incompatible And because of my experiences should I believe all men are the same? That all men only care about sex and are low keys dogs? I had some terrible experiences with men myself but that has not made me angry or bitter towards men at all. I love men but im quick to tell them they are some bullshit the same way I tell women and feminist.
I'm on a kindle and type fast.. chill out, people only go after a person's spelling when they don't have anything better to say.
@BrittBratt2416 most men of "my kind" and generaton actually ARE low key, down low dogs. Actually, lower than dogs. They'yre lower than dirt. But yet they're the ones who are cherished. Men like i, who view the world with a bigger picture, are aware of what's going on, not living their lives in ignorant bliss, and calling shit out when need be, seem to be the most hated ones.
But at this point, i no longer give two flying fucks about anything anymore. Everything and everyone has been turned on its head, nobody knows what fucking gender they are, things are so fucking insane that it's amazing. And i have watched this transformation happenin the last 12-22 years i've been on tis fucked up ball of rock.
@Incompatible Yes it is sad that there are women and men like that, always using people and not caring about someone's feelings. I agree, Its very sad now people are trying to say men can be women and vise versa.
''I didn't say it's in every man's nature to be chivalrous or not. I said it's a trait that some have and some may not. Get it right dude...''
I meant to say so you want it to be in his nature, as in, that is what you like? and what if the guy wanted you to be the idea of a traditional women? English is not my first language so certain phrases so I tend to make mistakes.. I get what you are saying though
''so he should pay; if I asked him out then I should pay - it's as simple as that. ''
well you are wrong for this part of the communication as all you stated in the take was ''pay for me etc'' which basically made it seem like, well you want him to pay for you lol. Thats where the traditional part came in. Who am I to say what comes with it? well, its only fair.. otherwise, she is just a gold digger
I really don't know if i'm expected to pay or offer to split
if i know then just as it balances out more or less later on
Lol thank you I love this
I think it is becoming too much of a hype
damn she rekt other girls
Glad the ladies are catching up on this one.
Women want more than equality.
Thanks for your opinion
The woman in that video is right
Thank you
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