- Gender pay gap is a myth - You cannot force people to elect someone because of their gender - In western society women are equal and in a lot of cases more than equal to men. There is no widespread oppression of women in the west - You have the same and even more rights than men and if you are a white woman you are the most privileged demographic in the world. - If you really care about gender equality and the oppression of women then you would be focusing on islamic countries
uh i thought that was common sense also i heard the pay gaps a myth they get paid less because the work less take more holidays and work fewer hours according to research if thats the case it isn't fair to work less and get paid the same when when i first saw where you said im a feminist i was like oh no not one of those but if your just about equality and i mean working as hard as a man then of course thats fair most people want that
What makes you think women aren't already equal? The wage gap is a myth taken from the reality that most women will interrupt their careers to have and care for kids. And matter of fact, men get slut shamed too. I'm a serial dater and there are tons of girls who won't have anything to do with me because of that.
As a matter of fact in my university there is 60% women and 40% men. These same women who are fighting for "equality" are butthurt because apparently there's not enough educated men to go around LOL
You have equal rights, plus the wage gap is a debunked myth. If you want more, you don't want equlity, you want power. Feminism is only useful in muslim countries, otherwise, it's kind of pointless to me.
It's easy for women to accept feminist shit like this because it's a pleasant lie. Everyone wants to hear that their problems aren't their fault, and there's no better scapegoat than a straight white guy. The problem is women in other countries do have it badly, especially in the Middle East. The weird thing is there are no feminists getting on planes to go protest mandatory Burqas in Afghanistan, because that's just beyond the call of duty. The only purpose of modern feminism is to provide a bastion of superiority by victim hood to women so they can freely hate men without consequence. If you live in the west, you don't have the right to complain. If you do feel like doing some good, ship your ass to Pakistan and do something real.
@Alusio Tell me: If your cell phone breaks, do you then decide not to get it fixed because there are starving children in Africa who donβt have phones at all? Somehow, I don't think so.
It's a shocking and horrible thought, I know, but it IS actually possible to care about more than one feminist issue at a time. But itβs amazing how many international womenβs rights enthusiasts come out of the woodwork when you dare suggest that thereβs room for improvements in Western countries.
The point is feminism is hypocritical. As for starving children in Africa, I honestly can't tell what that has to do with anything. Africans have been starving for quite some time now and I can't remember anyone saying that maybe if they have a lack of food they shouldn't have 9 kids.
The reality is that women are inherently unequal to men. When women get equality, it often needs to be supplemented by the government or the govt forcing a business in order to make "equality". The free market should decide, and if a woman is worth her salt, she'll be paid that way.
Angela Merkel is a globalist turncoat piece of trash. Female politicians have a sleazy history of being money grubbing lackeys for the male power structure. Crooked Hillary is still the most powerful women in America, and you can see how she's been disgraced. So go back to the kitchen, where you belong!
Excuse me, but I think the whole reason why Merkel is the leader of her country is because she doesn't constantly bring up the fact that she's a woman. Hillary Clinton constantly brought up her gender and so alienated male voters and lost. I get what you're saying in your take, but I think feminists will only be successful if they don't constantly remind men of their gender and make it like we want to keep women in their place, when most of us don't.
I've always said feminism should be equality with men, not raising women higher than them. We should both be treated as equals, neither should be treated as inferior. I get so much heat for saying this from women
I wish more people would wear their feminist sticker openly. It makes it easier to realize that no male, whether espousing an opinion or delivering facts, is going to respected in any way or received with due courtesy. Thank you for the identification. It is odd however that you felt the need to state specifically "I don't hate men", when you do.
If you can't take 15 minutes to google wage gap debunked you are either an idiot or being intentionally dishonest for the sake of making people sympathize with a movement built on such dishonesty.
Don't even know why you are bringing up Angelica Merkel. Probably the worst example of a female leader ever.
Men don't look up to womanizers, not that I would expect you to have known that. And even if they did, that still wouldn't mean you aren't a slut.
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βββIn some developed places in America women earn more than men. They already own more than half the personal US wealth. Women tend to fly up the ranks in finance 10times quicker than men for having a golden vagina. Dont give us that bullshit. Fuck feminism.
Are you willing to be drafted to fight front lines in wars? Are you willing to pay alimony and child support on average? Are you willing to gain higher prison sentences. what about skipping on parental leave. What about no longer having marches and fund raisers to help fight breast cancer. Are you willing to work more dangerous jobs and put your life on the line. If you said yes to all of these you can have equality. If you want none of these thing your equality would be a false one
We can do a hell of a lot better than closing the wage gap. We can abolish capitalism and wage labor all together.
You might wanna take a look at Rojava's political system, democratic confederalism. It's probably the most progressive and feminist political system in the world, and it's working well.
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I think women should try using female condoms and get the sensation of taking a shower while wearing a raincoat we men get when using a condom. It REALLY does feel drastically different having a hefty layer of latex or rubber there. And make no mistake, the layer is hefty, no matter how thin they claim to make them, otherwise they would simply break routinely.
But you can't be the same because you aren't the same... I mean is the male and female lion the 'same' of Course not... if nature didn't make them the same.. it's reasonable to think we aren't the same as well
Want women to be paid equally and hold as many high positions? Well, hun, you may want to work harder. The time you invested bitching here could have been the time you invested in working your way up the ranks.
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- Gender pay gap is a myth
- You cannot force people to elect someone because of their gender
- In western society women are equal and in a lot of cases more than equal to men. There is no widespread oppression of women in the west
- You have the same and even more rights than men and if you are a white woman you are the most privileged demographic in the world.
- If you really care about gender equality and the oppression of women then you would be focusing on islamic countries
uh i thought that was common sense also i heard the pay gaps a myth they get paid less because the work less take more holidays and work fewer hours according to research if thats the case it isn't fair to work less and get paid the same when when i first saw where you said im a feminist i was like oh no not one of those but if your just about equality and i mean working as hard as a man then of course thats fair most people want that
What makes you think women aren't already equal? The wage gap is a myth taken from the reality that most women will interrupt their careers to have and care for kids. And matter of fact, men get slut shamed too. I'm a serial dater and there are tons of girls who won't have anything to do with me because of that.
... How are you not equal?
As a matter of fact in my university there is 60% women and 40% men. These same women who are fighting for "equality" are butthurt because apparently there's not enough educated men to go around LOL
You have equal rights, plus the wage gap is a debunked myth. If you want more, you don't want equlity, you want power. Feminism is only useful in muslim countries, otherwise, it's kind of pointless to me.
Just want to say, good post.
Of course it gets flooded with responses from guys telling you how wrong it is, but for what it's worth, I liked it.
It's easy for women to accept feminist shit like this because it's a pleasant lie. Everyone wants to hear that their problems aren't their fault, and there's no better scapegoat than a straight white guy. The problem is women in other countries do have it badly, especially in the Middle East. The weird thing is there are no feminists getting on planes to go protest mandatory Burqas in Afghanistan, because that's just beyond the call of duty. The only purpose of modern feminism is to provide a bastion of superiority by victim hood to women so they can freely hate men without consequence. If you live in the west, you don't have the right to complain. If you do feel like doing some good, ship your ass to Pakistan and do something real.
@Alusio Tell me: If your cell phone breaks, do you then decide not to get it fixed because there are starving children in Africa who donβt have phones at all? Somehow, I don't think so.
It's a shocking and horrible thought, I know, but it IS actually possible to care about more than one feminist issue at a time. But itβs amazing how many international womenβs rights enthusiasts come out of the woodwork when you dare suggest that thereβs room for improvements in Western countries.
The point is feminism is hypocritical. As for starving children in Africa, I honestly can't tell what that has to do with anything. Africans have been starving for quite some time now and I can't remember anyone saying that maybe if they have a lack of food they shouldn't have 9 kids.
@Alusio It's called a parallel, or a simile. Look it up sometime, maybe you'll learn something.
The reality is that women are inherently unequal to men. When women get equality, it often needs to be supplemented by the government or the govt forcing a business in order to make "equality". The free market should decide, and if a woman is worth her salt, she'll be paid that way.
Angela Merkel is a globalist turncoat piece of trash. Female politicians have a sleazy history of being money grubbing lackeys for the male power structure. Crooked Hillary is still the most powerful women in America, and you can see how she's been disgraced. So go back to the kitchen, where you belong!
Excuse me, but I think the whole reason why Merkel is the leader of her country is because she doesn't constantly bring up the fact that she's a woman. Hillary Clinton constantly brought up her gender and so alienated male voters and lost. I get what you're saying in your take, but I think feminists will only be successful if they don't constantly remind men of their gender and make it like we want to keep women in their place, when most of us don't.
I've always said feminism should be equality with men, not raising women higher than them.
We should both be treated as equals, neither should be treated as inferior. I get so much heat for saying this from women
because crazy lol
I wish more people would wear their feminist sticker openly. It makes it easier to realize that no male, whether espousing an opinion or delivering facts, is going to respected in any way or received with due courtesy. Thank you for the identification. It is odd however that you felt the need to state specifically "I don't hate men", when you do.
If you can't take 15 minutes to google wage gap debunked you are either an idiot or being intentionally dishonest for the sake of making people sympathize with a movement built on such dishonesty.
Don't even know why you are bringing up Angelica Merkel. Probably the worst example of a female leader ever.
Men don't look up to womanizers, not that I would expect you to have known that. And even if they did, that still wouldn't mean you aren't a slut.
βββIn some developed places in America women earn more than men. They already own more than half the personal US wealth.
Women tend to fly up the ranks in finance 10times quicker than men for having a golden vagina. Dont give us that bullshit.
Fuck feminism.
Are you willing to be drafted to fight front lines in wars? Are you willing to pay alimony and child support on average? Are you willing to gain higher prison sentences. what about skipping on parental leave. What about no longer having marches and fund raisers to help fight breast cancer. Are you willing to work more dangerous jobs and put your life on the line. If you said yes to all of these you can have equality. If you want none of these thing your equality would be a false one
We can do a hell of a lot better than closing the wage gap. We can abolish capitalism and wage labor all together.
You might wanna take a look at Rojava's political system, democratic confederalism. It's probably the most progressive and feminist political system in the world, and it's working well.
I think women should try using female condoms and get the sensation of taking a shower while wearing a raincoat we men get when using a condom. It REALLY does feel drastically different having a hefty layer of latex or rubber there. And make no mistake, the layer is hefty, no matter how thin they claim to make them, otherwise they would simply break routinely.
But you can't be the same because you aren't the same...
I mean is the male and female lion the 'same' of Course not... if nature didn't make them the same.. it's reasonable to think we aren't the same as well
Nice post. Don't worry about the guys who disagree with you. They will never agree with you but you have to keep fighting for what you believe in.
Want women to be paid equally and hold as many high positions? Well, hun, you may want to work harder. The time you invested bitching here could have been the time you invested in working your way up the ranks.
The wage gap is a real thing IN OUR COUNTRIES people, America isn't the only place on this planet.
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