Who Are These People Who Continue to Sneer at Trump but Didn't Vote for the Only Sane Candidate?

[DonRomeo]

Who are these people who constantly snigger or sneer at Donald Trump?

They're not one of the delusional majorities of those who went to the polling stations, because they voted for him.

They're not the other delusional majority group who went to the polling stations, because they voted for Clinton's wife, who's even worse.

They're not the 42% of eligible voters who didn't turn up, because although refusing to vote or voting blank is one way of voicing your disgust at the lie of democracy, they aren't involved in any other visible rebellion against the current system - and that means you don't have a right to complain.

Few of them are likely to be minority voters of Jill Stein, because - mindblowingly - they made up just 1.06% of the popular vote, and everyone and his dog is criticising Trump - which is more than 1.06% of the population of the US, never mind the electorate.

Few of them are likely to be minority voters of Gary Johnson, because they made up 3.27% of the popular vote, and he's more insane than Trump is. And for the same reason as for the Green party.

So what is this anti-Trump b******t? I know he's an absurd candidate, almost as absurd as Clinton's wife, but I wasn't in the country and if I was, I would have either resisted the system or I would have voted for the Green Party under Gill Stein - despite that I hate some Green Party policies - but given the horrific lack of sensible options.

I just don't understand how close to 100% of the electorate voted for Trump or Clinton's wife, which clearly waivers their right to criticise either of them winning, and then they think they have a right to bitch about the winner, when there was a perfectly decent third option!

I became disillusioned with a few 'Green Parties' way over a decade ago, with their tolerance of Feminazism and Mass Immigration, and with their factions that, extraordinarily, think they are against strategic nuclear deterrence. But under Gill Stein's leadership, they had a succinct manifesto, clearly laying out - and convincingly - a pragmatic and mutually beneficial manifesto with concrete propositions to alleviate social problems through the reallocation of resources, particularly from the military industrial complex and foreign intervention. I read this manifesto long before the election. For the most part it seemed OK to me, and you can read the outline here:

https://www.jill2016.com/plan

Her team and the doctor herself (not an economist arsehole or evil lawyer, from which areas most previous despots are drawn) had assembled a plausible, simple, and seemingly achievable plan of action, with a view to helping the disadvantaged, the environment, and promoting peace and equality. Elements of Socialism and Humanitarianism, in other words. And Dr. Gill Stein was on the ballot paper! The very ballot paper that many of you voted for 'Trump' or 'H.Clinton' with.

And almost none of you voted for her!!!

Here we were, with two equally insane candidates, presented to a population that's always spouting how great this broken, corrupt voting system is, and...

YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO VOTE FOR *EITHER* OF THEM!

As a non-American, it is very difficult for me to understand people who build, light and stoke a fire, jump in, and then complain that it's hot.

Most typical criticisms of Trump, for all his extremely dangerous inappropriateness on the world stage, seem to be a mass act of deflecting the blame and responsibility away from the American voters themselves.

A voter simply cannot complain about two despots who over 95% of voters elected, when they did too, and when a perfectly - and certainly comparatively - sane Gill Stein was on the very same ballot paper, and almost nobody voted for her.

Basically, America: Put up or Shut up. It is YOUR fault, not Trumps or Clinton's wife's or Mohammed's or Charlie Sheen's or Russia's or Elmo's or god knows who else. The rest of the world is bored of the satire, anti-Trump jokes, deflecting the blame to Russia or George Washington etc, and omnipotent ambient sneering. Either do something about it, or shut the **** up please!

[i1T2daty]

I'm one of them. I think he has the emotional maturity of a spoiled 12 year old, the knowledge of a high school drop out, an incredibly distorted perspective of himself and others and cannot believe he represents the US to the rest of the world.

I am baffled that anyone thinks he is remotely qualified. He embarrasses me with his huge lack of knowledge in almost every area that a true statesman should know. He lacks discipline, is a narcissist, a shitty businessman who has bankrupted at least 4 times. He is devoid of morals, compassion and every other quality that human beings are supposed to develop during adolescence.

I think the Republican party is, as usual, a bunch of self serving aggrandizing asshats led by a chinless spineless bastard named Mitchell in the Senate, a liar named Ryan in Congress and your buddy in the White House. The following government services were brought into law by democrats over strong republican pedagogues:
1) Unemployment Insurance
2) Social Security
3) Medicare
4) Banking regulations that were hated by the repubs. repealed by them leading to the two worst economic crises ever.
5) Equal Rights

The first Republican was the most courageous and brilliant statesman to ever serve as president; Lincoln. The gene pool has become so inbred and corrupted that we now have a president that, much to my utter disbelief, makes George W. Bush look good. Democrats are often almost as bad but I've never seen such self serving nepotism, immaturity, fuck it who am I going to convince- as long as people want someone to hate rather than doing any soul searching of their own; they will be attracted to very simple manipulation & sloganeering. The multi-billionaires life styles will flourish and anybody worth less than 10M will be ignored. What I can't believe is that they lie to the people who vote for them; knowing that would never do shit for them but consider them ignorant enough to get their votes by propaganda so obvious it would be laughable if it weren't true enough that anyone could have thought he was fit to lead a boy scout troop much less a country.

It's tough not to cry at what people will believe in this country. More interested in the Kardashian wardrobe than any history, personal introspection, collective outrage. You at least spelled him name correctly.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[villageidiot]

THe trouble is your making sense in an intellectual wasteland!

[Izumiblu]

Non American complaining about Americans voting choices and then says Americans don’t have the right to complain.

[Max_winner1]

My god takes so many st***d Americans to actually realize this? What a good laugh...

[OlderAndWiser]

Why do you think that lawyers are evil?

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Lol honestly, as someone who loathes Trump, and will agree he is crazy, I actually don't think he is as crazy as Jill Stein. Screenshot this, because I am 100 percent serious. For being a "medical doctor"(Which I doubt she even is), she sure is against vaccinations. Because, we all know disagreeing with medically proven facts is the best way to show off your knowledge as a "doctor."

Second of all, Jill Stein did so much complaining about Hillary Clinton, and so little about Donald Trump, I actually think she was a closet Donald Trump supporter the entire time (probably because she was jealous of Hillary's success). She even admitted in interviews that Donald Trump was better than Hillary Clinton.

Third of all, after the 2016 Presidential Election was over, Jill Stein wanted a "recount", because she thought she could go from winning one percent of the vote, and zero Electoral College votes, to winning the election. Except, she didn't actually think that at all. She had people donate money to her funding because she knew she could make money off of the "recount." She's a fraud, but everyone in the world knew that after this. She ended up grossing a million American dollars after this.

However, it's looking like you're a closet Trump supporter yourself. The only people who I see even mention the 2016 Presidential Election anymore are people who voted for Trump. These so-called "third-party voters" were polling at ten percent, until the election came around. We found out that third-party voters only won about four percent of the vote. As I predicted, these "third-party voters" were closet Donald Trump supporters the whole time.

[jimmijo1954]

@DonRomero- I don't know who you think you are- but you clearly know very little about the American electorate. First of all throughout your illogical narrative you trumpet the attributes of a third party candidate who's name you can't even spell correctly-so it's a bit rich that you try to make the reader think you are in some way knowledgeable about her, our election, or anything else American. You were not in the voting booth that day, I was. You have'nt the slightest clue what actual choices we had that day- and you keep saying we could have voted Green Party candidate, Jill Stein. Stop the ignorance and realize she (Stein) was never going to win- one of the two most horrible candidates in our recent history would win- so why throw away my vote for the impossible? Only you would think of doing that because you are not American so you have a high level of sheer ignorance. There is so much more wrong with your narrative- every American who is half-awake knows what I mean, so I will let them say it.

[jimmijo1954]

Oh yeah- I think you are especially stupid when you say that no one who did not vote can criticize the results, in fact you say that several times, each time revealing how out of touch you are with the real America. It is not like England, where you apparently believe such bullshit- in America anyone can criticize anything at any time - whether they voted or not, you really need to educate yourself a lot before you come on these pages and espouse your nonsense- I am embarrassed FOR you...

[villageidiot]

LOL this is too funny! Keep writing , I love it!

[NYCQuestions1976]

Full disclosure... this is a previous post of mine from elsewhere:

Trump won because blue-collar democrats in Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and West Virginia were tired of being ignored by Clinton and abandoned by the Democratic Party. It may not be polite or politically correct to say, but most working-class families, regardless of party affiliation, don't care about illegal immigrants being granted amnesty or government-sponsored college-age birth control, because those things don't keep them employed and their families fed.

Personally, I voted for my son. He's 8 1/2.

[villageidiot]

Yes and corporate execs who move millions of jobs overseas to exploit cheap labor... those are democrats?

[villageidiot]

If you're that concerned about the well being of your 8 1/2 year old, you may want to do a little homework.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@villageidiot Ah yes. The 17 year old that knows how the universe works. Are you a balloon head? Everyone knows Republicans like cheap labor, Dingleberry. The problem is that Democrats have abandoned blue-collar labor decades ago to placate Feminazis, graduate students that want to stay in college with no career and loads of student loans on the taxpayer's dime, illegal immigrants (which is different from legal immigration and needed in moderation), and lazy do-nothings that just want to spend a lifetime sucking on the government's tits while polishing their couches with their asses.

Fact is, Democrats aren't Democrats any more. They're ultra-liberals... and along with ultra-conservatives

[NYCQuestions1976]

... are ruining everything for everyone else in the middle.

[villageidiot]

Ahh a 42 yothat know NOTHING! Did you steal your lines from Rush Limbaugh or Fox?

[NYCQuestions1976]

@villageidiot Limbaugh is a fraud and hypocrite, the same as Hilary Clinton. Get your balloon head out of your ass. You've got a lot to learn... hopefully not while wasting my tax dollar.

[villageidiot]

HAH I've already forgotten more than you'll ever know. Now go watch Fox and learn some new fascist concepts.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@villageidiot LOL! Yeah right. Your obviously being groomed to be a waste of space. I make 6 figures a year working blue-collar. Go roll another bone the size of a telephone pole and enjoy a lifetime of Xbox while wasting everyone else's tax money and oxygen.

[villageidiot]

If you ever get over to Bleeker St. We have to have lunch (on me) Do you like Sevilla's on Charles and W. 4th

[villageidiot]

Sorry. I don't play video games or use drugs.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@villageidiot I work full time and I'm a full-time single parent. I'll pass. I'm libertarian and we're never going to share common ground.

Just remember while you're busy railing against an obvious and well-known enemy, you're being stabbed in the back by a faux ally. As we say on the job, "it is what it is".

[villageidiot]

Faux ally? you mean like the dim-witted blue collar workers who vote republican despite the conservative dream to abolish unions, make all states "right to work states" and make your corporate bosses the final word in all labor/worker policy. If these people had their way you would be making $5.25/hr and have to accept it. As for common ground, I can usually find at least some with most people, unless they're the type who go right for the insult instead of discussing facts.

[gotc147]

@villageidiot if everybody was making $5.25/hour everything would be a lot less expensive.

Democrats are the ones that pushed all the jobs overseas. You're too young to really remember but it was Bill Clinton that signed NAFTA and other Democrats at the state and local levels kept raising taxes and increasing regulations on businesses, increasing their costs and forcing them to ship jobs overseas.

With Trump as President and Republicans in control of most states, those jobs are coming back because the business climate is a lot friendlier now.

[villageidiot]

@gotc147 LMAO

[gotc147]

@villageidiot can't refute my statement so just laugh, you have alright future as a delusional socialist.

[villageidiot]

@gotc147 I guess no jobs left under Reagan/Bush.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@villageidiot
@gotc147

You're both inaccurate.
1.) Unemployment was low under both Ronald Reagan (Republican) and Bill Clinton (Democrat).
2.) NAFTA was lauded by both Republicans and Democrats. It passed through a Republican dominated House and Republican dominated Senate and signed into law by Bill Clinton (Democrat). "Mr. Environment" Al Gore (Democrat) was all for the agreement. Only H. Ross Perot was loudly and vehemently opposed to the deal. It is one of the worst "deals" ever for the United States. It completely decimated blue-collar jobs in this country.
3.) The number of times George W. Bush (Republican) and Barack Obama (Democrat) had labor leaders at the White House for a meeting during the years they were president (January 2001 to January 2016... that's 16 years) is ZERO. Donald Trump (Lunatic) had labor leaders at the White House for a meeting only days after his inauguration. Will anything happen? Who knows... but a coin toss is better than 16 years of nothing.

[NYCQuestions1976]

The Bush/Obama/Trump labor story was a teeny tiny article in the New York Times (no fan of Trump), no other newspaper, nowhere on the internet at the time (admittedly as far as I know), and aired only ONE TIME as a throwaway clip by CNN, MSNBC, and FOX. Only ONE TIME by each of them. Proof that politicians and the media only deal with and care about the far right, the far left, and drama.

[MarkRet]

I didn't vote for Trump OR Hillary, as they were both slimy and repulsive. I didn't vote for Jill Stein either, as I thought she was WAY too left (her running mate was a black guy who made Malcolm X sound like a cracker). I DID vote for a guy who had even less of a chance of winning than Jill Stein, so even though I have the right to bash Trump, I usually just dismiss him as a joke.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Jill Stein wasn't really 'to the left." She clearly hates blacks, and clearly supported Trump, but was afraid to admit it.

She's just a fraud altogether.

[Anonymous]

I believe it was George Washington who warned against having political parties. It's basically like taking sides and fighting against each other like children. Even children have more sense these days.
It's what has ruined democracy for us. It's the reason why someone with great knowledge, understanding and experience, like Sanders, didn't even get a chance run as a candidate in the official round of elections.

[Rissyanne]

Sanders... lol. The dnc and Hillary gave it to him up the butt... and he turned around and smiled at them.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

I agree, but honestly, Jill Stein is one of the worst candidates I've ever seen. I've voted third-party before, but I don't agree with voting third-party for the sake of voting third-party. When you have a woman who claims she's a "medical doctor", and is against vaccinations-as well as someone who demoralizes black voters, for voting for Hillary Clinton, I can't get behind the racist idiot that Jill Stein is.

[Rissyanne]

@EnglishArtsteacher And she scammed people out of money with that recount scam

[Max_winner1]

I voted for Trump. Someone has to be hated for the changes to
He's making. Unless you are a liberal. Open the borders to everyone!!!
Honestly I hate Democrats than anything. I don't understand their double standards on politically correctness and illegal immigration.

[villageidiot]

Aahhh, middle age white men. LOL

[jimmijo1954]

@villageidiot ahh, impudent little dumbshits...

[villageidiot]

@jimmijo1954 Now take your laxative and you'll feel better. Kinda affects the brain when it's all backed up like that.

[Max_winner1]

@villageidiot be nice my liberal snow flake. I'm sorry I hurt those precious feelings of yours. I think it's time to take the bed time blue pill. So you can stay in dream Land because liberals can't be helped.

[villageidiot]

Well we're all lucky you're here to straighten us out. LMAO

[Max_winner1]

@villageidiot I wonder what a 17 year old thinks of David Hogg.

[Anonymous]

I voted for a 3rd party myself since that was all I could do when it came down to choosing between those two. sometimes it makes me wonder, if for once we don't have a democrat or republican president in charge, then how would things be? can it be any worse? too bad it still hasn't happened yet, and if it ever will happen.

[EnglishArtsteacher]

Having a third-party President won't do any good unless local, and state politicians are also third-party.

[jimmijo1954]

@EnglishArtsteacher we are a long way from having a third party anything, anyone who voted for one wasted their vote, in my opinion. I would love for a third party to become reality, but it's not here yet. Thinking hypothetically about it is fun, but no one knows what or if it will even happen... but It could be LOTS worse- think if the member of the Clinton Crime Family had won? Talk about tyranny... lol

[Opinion Owner]

@jimmijo1954 it's not a waste if you don't agree with either of the major political parties, I mean what's the point of voting for or supporting either of them when you don't feel you agree with either of them, despite one of them will eventually win, but that isn't my point. and I think @englishartsteacher has a point, if most of the other politicians aren't also 3rd party then it would still be a disaster even if a 3rd party somehow manage to win the presidency, which is unlikely at this point, if ever. I guess the only way we'll know if 3rd party has a chance to win the presidency is when a significant percentage of those local and state politicians have 3rd parties themselves that also somehow manage to win in those elections.

[shephardjhon]

definitely Elmo's fault. He rigged the election.
by the way, before the election, I was already saying how stupid America's enemies are that they aren't exploiting the internal conflicts. Cambridge Analytica made me regret being right. Also turns out Russia sponsored pro and anti Trump protests in the same city to cause tension.

[Rissyanne]

It is called Trump Derangement Syndrome. And I love how this idiots on here said they voted for that pot head Gary Johnson... but idiots will go with idiots.

[TripleAce]

Trump is living like a Don now lol... guy goes to his maro Lago resort with USA secret service guards posted at every tower LOL...

Imagine how much he must boast with his equals LOL... the only billionaire to ever be president?

[villageidiot]

He is NOT a billionaire!!!

[TripleAce]

@villageidiot yea he is lol...

[TripleAce]

@villageidiot what makes you think he isn't?

[villageidiot]

How many time has he filed for bankruptcy? Why wouldn't he release the same financial doc's that candidates have been filing for decades? Ask his accountants and contractors who got stiffed. LOL

[villageidiot]

He made more money from his TV show than he did in Real Estate!

[TripleAce]

@villageidiot ya but he's still a billionaire lol
bankruptcy is a strategic move to keep your money. it doesn't actually mean you are broke to zero lol

he doesn't release his taxes because he is a private company that competitors could gain an advantage if they saw his finances...
--> it was a fact that he earns millions in profits per year... check it out lol

[villageidiot]

Oh well I'm glad you cleared that up LMAO!

[cavmanier]

@villageidiot
He never filed for personal bankruptcy. He filed bankruptcy on like 4 businesses out of about 500. Each time was during recessions. Most businesses in general are going to fail so he has an exception business history. People that know close to zero about business are the ones saying this. It's not easy to become a billionaire though.

[zagor]

People generally don't vote for third party candidates because they have no chance of winning. I voted for one because I knew my state was going for Hil no matter what I did.

And Trump lost the popular vote by about 3 million, by the way.

[gotc147]

Only because of California, counting votes only from the other 49 states Trump wins by over 1,000,000 popular votes.

[Onlythisone]

I have a job so obviously I was on the side that voted for trump.

[villageidiot]

Does that broom handle give you blisters?

[jimmijo1954]

@villageidiot - prove you have a job dumbass. Words of wisdom, once again from the user who's screename is actually his best description... lol

[villageidiot]

@jimmijo1954 Whoa, did you think of that all by yourself? Give that redneck a lollipop!

[Anonymous]

They're not sneering at trump. They're sneering at the trash who voted for trump. Trump is a cartoon character. Even some of his supporters can't take him seriously. THe majority of "PEOPLE" voted against him, not to mention the help he had from the Russians. You have to understand we don't hate trump. We hate YOU!

[Rissyanne]

And this is why Trump will win again.

[gotc147]

Trump had no help from the Russians.

[Opinion Owner]

@gotc147 If you say so.

[Rissyanne]

@gotc147 I find it hilarious that liberals still are pushing this. I think that is all they have. They have no message for the people. The only thing they can say is..."we hate Trump". That's it. They prioritize illegals over American citizens. They dont even have a viable candidate to run in 2020. The Democratic party is pretty much washed up...

[gotc147]

Present any evidence you have of Trump colluding with Russia.

[Rissyanne]

@gotc147 They have none. They are just pissed because their criminal candidate lost.

[gotc147]

@Rissyanne I know that, you know that, but he apparently doesn't know that.

[linds34]

So only 1% of people in the USA can have an opinion on the President? That's ridiculous, everybody is entitled to their opinion. Even if people voted for him they can still criticize him.

[100musicmaniac]

I voted for Clinton, because, first, she has previous experience. AND Trump thinks he is in charge of EVERYTHING! Even stuff that's out of his control, he has NO respect for women so let me ask YOU: Why did you vote for Trump?

[EnglishArtsteacher]

It's obvious this guy is a closet Donald Trump supporter.

[100musicmaniac]

@EnglishArtsteacher Yeah...

[jimmijo1954]

Maybe you missed the part where he said he's not American. You DO know that's disqualifies him from voting? Lol

[villageidiot]

@jimmijo1954 DUHHH gee ya think?

[Max_winner1]

@villageidiot lol! You stupid liberals finally caught on. Hahaha so gullible typical Democrat. Just like lying Hilary.

[John_Doesnt]

I voted for Clinton because I'm not an idiot who believes every conspiracy about "her emails". I also voted for her because her husband was one of the best presidents we had.

[torken]

a president is to represent the will of the people. How will they do that if they don't know how we feel? Not voicing your opinion is insane

[InTimoreDei]

Best thing I've read regarding this issue.

[Anonymous]

Not sure what you mean by "Trump was an absurd candidate." He is an incredibly smart man who is making America great again day by day, and will go down as the greatest President of all time!