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The stay at home order is not about politics or any superficial means. (Page 2)
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People aren't conditioned to staying at home. They're conditioned to alcohol, music, sex and hate. Staying at home isn't really a struggle, because those conditions will continue but try and cut the conditions out and see the rise of crime and death. Which is why this is a big warning. And society have to learn from this and prepare for worse. If it's just stay at home. I reckon we should have an international stay home day.
Hey, guess what?
You don't need to explain this shit to people, we all hear the same propaganda you do.
Are you sure?
I would like an actual explanation for the reasoning behind these arguments beyond emotional (i. e. "your actions, perceived selfish by me, are therefore invalid") but doubt the OP has considered anyone else's perspective, or made any attempt to empathize, based on this post which attacks anyone who acts in ways which don't agree with the OP.
Haha are you a trump supporter?
I'm simply asking for explanation not supplied in your post, for which you've yet to offer any data/critical based explanation.
But, to answer your question, you're attempting to demean and attack my character, much like Trump does with the media, rather directly answering my question, which you're avoiding.
You criticize Trump, yet act just like him - attacking the individual (character assassination), and avoid addressing arguments made by the individual.
Sorry, that wasn't even character assassination, more implied character assassination built on narcissism ("i dislike? disagree with Trump, therefore anyone who agrees with him is automatically, by default, ignorant, because what I conclude, and fact, are the same thing)
Still awaiting those supporting details for your "anyone who doesn't act by my perceptions is wrong, and should be ashamed" argument...
You're stupidity doesn't deserve acknowledgement. You'll be waiting until you're dead
Excellent response. About what someone with an IQ of 70 would be capable of (not an insult, literally).
@chris0977 She doesn't actually know what she's talking about, she just likes to be bossy and figured this virus is s good an excuse as any, probably a better excuse than what she usually has. She probably has no children so she gets her jollies by talking down to other people like she was their mom. I see it all the time.
I know. Random individuals' opinions aren't enough to get emotional over. I just like either to practice my debate skills on here as a "simulator", or, if someone actually knows their subject matter, to engage in a debate, versus character attacks, unfortunately I nearly always get the latter, when I'd actually love to have a real discussion of issues.
@chris0977 I was gonna say, you came to the wrong fucking place for debate or even an open, honest conversation.
Based on everything I know about human behavior I'd bet everything the OP spends massive time on social media/in an echo chamber of feeds, only being presented with what she wants. These people seem to be most intolerant because they rarely are forced to learn to emotionally confront any uncomfortable beliefs/ideas, and attack almost like a drug addict who can't get a "fix".
And you are not, you hate him because of what your media friends told you which are mostly lies.
@888theGreat Mostly, the media just point us a video of him saying stupid stuff. Sometimes they have to explain why it's stupid, but not often. There's no need to lie.
I hear what you are staying. It's nice of you to care about others. But it's more complicated then that.
I care about others more than I care about myself
when you override people's constitutional rights, it becomes political, sorry but that's an unavoidable fact. Now go ahead and call me names
Yeah that's true. But in general, the overwhelming consensus is to stay the fuck home so people dont die at a faster rate. Its political in your example, the order isn't political.
what order isn't political? Look if you are fining people for leaving the house and you as a governing body instituted that without a vote or anything, it's not just political, its hyper political, it's un democratic, not how republics are supposed to function one could even call it treason
Its definitely not treasonous. I feel like being political and acting as an authoritative figure are the same for you.
You need to make more sense when you speak.
Or... you need to comprehend English
Like fuck right off with your 'I feel this, I feel that' bullshit. I was very clear in what I said, why don't you try responding in a clear manner? It's been a long trying day at work and I don't have patience for this dumb shit. If a so called 'authority figure' suddenly decides to temporarily change the law in a way that negates your constitutional rights, what the fuck would you call that? Huh? You think that's not political? Then what is it? What is it when somebody says fuck you to the constitution?
You tell me what that is, and really take a moment and think before you type out some more diarrhea.
Ok bumblebee, I feel as though you need to take a chill pill and calm down. I feel like you aren't comprehending basic English and that might be because you had a long day at work but I feel like you need to calm down
"I feel like being political and acting as an authoritative figure are the same for you."
given the context of what we are talking about, this statement is infuriatingly stupid. I want you to understand that.
I do need to calm down, keen observation butterfly XD just do me a favor and re read what you wrote
I feel like you're being hostile with your words
do me a favor, stop feeling for just 1 second and let your brain take the reigns. Maybe I don't know what I'm asking, maybe that's bad advice, but let's give it a try eh?
Aww thanks for calling me a butterfly
Governors are government , they are over ruling the constitution , so it is political. The same liberals that preach global warming which there is no proof at all and now they have a virus to control the people. If this continues the people are going to riot and actually millions are going to die. The Liberals hope life will be so much Hell in Swing sates , that they will blame Trump and he will not get reelected. That is sad that most of the people on here refuse to admit it and live in denial.
BlackWidow93 is correct. I encourage you all to stay at home so that my plans of authoritarian global conquest can come to fruition.
In all seriousness: I wasn't even aware this issue had been politicized. But it's America, so I'm not surprised either.
I think it really depends on where you live. In big cities, hospitals are overwhelmed. Not so much in smaller ones. Also, you have to factor in the psychological consequences. I live alone and I work from home, so I haven't had any real human interaction for weeks. People really are losing their jobs, too. Lives are being ruined. I am not saying you are wrong, but it is more complex than you suggest due to the psychological impact.
Stop making emotional arguments and go look at what they're doing in Michigan, then tell me it's not political.
It's not political. Go take your political bullshit somewhere else. I'd rather not lose any lives than do what Michigan is doing. And michigan certainly doesn't speak for the United states. It's sad to see that you can't fix ignorance and stupidity.
It is political in Michigan because of how strict they are and they somehow think distributing weed is essential but not firearms. You're emotionally unstable and unable to see facts for what they are, hence why you lost the election and will lose again because the electors saw that
Wtf I didn't run for president. Stop talking like you know me. You dont. You know what I post. And MICHIGAN DOES NOT REPRESENT ALL OF THE U. S.
But it's what they protested, and you're trying to say it's not about politics and making emotional arguments for why it's not and that's a load of crap
Alright skippy. You do you.
We should all VOLUNTARILY choose to follow CDC guidelines but the stay at home ORDER is about controlling an allegedly free people.
But not all people do so that's the job of the government is to step in and try to control the virus
Yeah, BlackWidow93, if you live in China or North Korea. Totalitarianism is actually about caring. Lol
Where do you live
But jsyk I wouldn't mind it
California
Ahh ok
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" This shouldn't be about politics. It should be about doing what's right."
Tell that to the Republicans and trumpfuck supporters who are running for re-election.
That's what this article is meant to do but you can't fix stupid.
No, you can not. And I just love the down votes from Orange Douche supporters. Their stupidity seems endless. It's astonishing, actually.
Yeah. At first I was arguing with them trying to get them to see how wrong they are but it's like talking to a brick wall.
Remember these wise words:
"Never try to teach a pig to sing. It's a waste of your time, and it just annoys the pig".
Talking to orange douchers never gets you anywhere - EVER. You can't even get them to acknowledge simple facts, or accept truths no matter HOW self evident they are. It's nothing but a frustrating experience in human stupidity.
You're very right. My dad keeps telling me that but I'm like no maybe they're just uneducated but I think its finally time I stop frustrating myself trying to talk to them
Educated or not, most of them are "willfully ignorant", which is far worse than simply being stupid. It's easier to forgive stupidity than ignorance, even when both have the same bottom line. Your dad is correct.
I know. It's just sad and makes me lose faith in humanity...
So basically this isn't about politics except it actually is because democrats are going to use this as a tool to push against Trump, blaming him for the virus. LMAO. This is like blaming George Bush for 9/11.
@user0000047 First of all, the reason the Bush Admin took heat about 9/11 was because they knew some of those guys were in the country, and they reasoned "we'll keep an eye on them and see if they can turn up some bigger fish". Well, they fucked that up pretty good, and ignored them. Trumpfus DESERVES heat on this too, not because it's his "fault" that there IS a virus, but because he denied it at first, then lied about it being under control, and followed it up with countless other bad decisions, lies and more bullshit. Some of the blame DOES indeed fall directly on him, and rightfully so. The absurdity of treating certain states and governors like they were on " Kiss my Ass; the Game Show" if you want federal aid, is actually treasonable to the American people.
As despicable and loathsome as the Orange Douche is, I'd have been thrilled to see him do the right things in this crisis, and lead the nation. Instead, he does what he always does - call your critics liars even when he's on video saying everything he's accused of, find a scapegoat and shift blame, and give money and breaks to those who don't deserve it, with no strings attached. And just for more fun, send out a bunch of tweets to incite your idiot base to commit even more stupid acts.
The "Dems", or ANYONE, are correct to say "no, the virus isn't your fault, but letting it get as BAD as its become, certainly IS your fault in good part. Not all of it, but most of it." He needed to be gone long before this. Unfortunately, this current display of incompetence comes at the cost of thousands of lives of good people.
But liberals say one thing while scheming another. They plan to use this virus to the fullest to defeat Trump. From only one person should have died if Trump would have reacted in January, when Trump reacted in 2016 , trying to keep all these disease carrying foreigners out of our country. But no the Democrats cried racist. Liberals care less for you and don't care if you die or not.
@888theGreat By disease carrying foreigners, I take it you mean those "bad hombres" from Mexico? LOL The virus alone is not going to be "used against Trump" ... everything he does and says, and doesn't do, is going to be used against him. And its a never ending stream of shit.
The Right never has a problem ignoring the truth... maybe we'll get lucky and the morons who refuse to stay home will all catch it and die?
Wow so tolerant. You must be a very nice person hoping for others to die. The fact is that you are a ignorant plebian who believes whatever the king tells you. This virus is not very dangerous and yet here you are willingly surrendering all of your freedoms for the sake of safety. Its pure fearmongering. I bet if the media began to push for a new law making everyone give up their genetic data to goverment database to "prevent infection" you'd be first on board and you'd call everyone who didn't a stupid bigot.
Well now they are relating COVID-19 to blood clots and stroke, saying "don't wait to long to come to the ER". No shit , this was today's revelation.
Fucking Doctors.
Hahaha
When the orders are coming from politicians, they are political. It’s basically an axiom
Most people I know in healthcare are saying the hospitals aren't at capacity and it's not that bad. I don't live in a major city though.
Ahh ok that's probably why. Major cities like philly are packed
I live in the suburbs around Philly. Sometimes I drive around and it seems like nothing is even wrong. You see less people walking around but the same amount of cars.
I live near philly and the hospital was packed last time I checked
Also the number of cases rises since it's a more populated area so it makes sense
Ahh ok
Idc really... This is Gr8 way of shutting down outdated or expensive bussinesses... Easier time for New companies easier for decent portfolios and easier for entertainment corps during lockdown...
@Vito123123. What? How many businesses have you owned?
Yes I hope some dumb ignorant people would understand it
Who's staying at home? Not many people in my Pittsburgh suburbs, that's for sure.
isn't that where all the factories and stuff are? I know the warehouse I work with is up there
Nah, I'm talking Mt Lebanon. Mostly old stone houses and restaurants and shit.
Ahhh
Some people are dumb.
American politics is crazy
You got that right.
Without Trump, we might still have this problem, but with a lot less people involved. Trump has been the real catalyst in getting people to protest quarantines, and mostly because it is costing him money.
Thank God for the protesters who are defending all of the ignorant people's rights.
Ewww
@Liam_Hayden when the protesters start getting sick, they will be the first to demand care. They will need to leave their ridiculous weapons out the hospitals though.
"this isn't a political issue"
Immediately turning it into a political issue. LOL. Why do liberals love to dance on the bodies of dead people so much?
@user0000047 we don't make them dead. they make themselves dead.