The Men's Rights Movement is not only legitimate it is long overdue

[joeblow123]

It truly is. Today boys and men live in a highly toxic environment that is harming them not just psychologically but also physically. Today's school environment is more toxic for boys than girls and today's work environment is more toxic for men than women. We see misandry in our culture throughout the media from tv and movies to real-life crime and drama. When men and women commit a crime the man not only gets a longer sentence but the prosecutor will make a deal with the woman to testify against the man. Even if the woman is the ringleader. Also, male murderers either receive the death penalty or life without parole while female murderers are spared the death penalty and receive a finite sentence. Only men are required to sign up for selective service while women are exempt. If men fail to do that they are imprisoned. This is a violation of the 14th Amendment. More money goes to medical research for women than men. A lot of states have safe haven laws that allow a woman to abandon motherhood by dropping her baby off at a hospital, police station and fire station. Men, on the other hand, are stuck with fatherhood and are required to support the child or children. Even if they are not his. Women have been known to select men's names out of a phone book. Find a male name and name that man as the father, regardless if he even he has met the woman or not, place that man's name on the baby's birth certificate and if this guy does not contest it or does not contest it in time he is on the hook for child support. Then there is alimony,in some jurisdictions lifetime alimony, where the man pays a large sum of his paycheck to his ex-wife who may be living with a millionaire or some bad boy. In some cases, the ex-husband is paying for the bad boy's Ferrari. These are to name a few of the problems men face.

[JackSmy]

@joeblow123 We've chatted, and Dude, I am not, in any way saying that I disagree or think you are in anyway not right, posting this!
I'm still one that really loves and adores women, and I am also a problem-solver and some think a mediator. I don't. I say what I think, and I respect others saying what they think, and I LISTEN and try to understand what they say, but also the motivations, the history, and the things that brought them to their current state of feeling and thinking on a topic.
I accidentally happened across this video, and I was reluctant, thinking it was an enticement, to draw men in, and then tell them, once again that they are a problem.
NOT AT ALL! I respect what she says, and she seems to have good intent.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/3WMuzhQXJoY

[joeblow123]

I'm very familiar with The Red Pill and I thank Cassie Jaye for making it. It was a very good movie that told the manosphere is a compassionate and realistic light. Not the average hatchet smear job the media usually pisses out and I'm thankful for that.

[joeblow123]

"I'm still one that really loves and adores women"

Do they love and adore us? I would like to agree with you but reality tells me differently.

[JackSmy]

@joeblow123 It seems we have had different experiences, and I totally respect your feelings and position on this. I tried to send you a PM, but it said you only accept from followers.
I think we are more alike, than different, just coming at the same issue from opposite sides, maybe?

[joeblow123]

@jacksmy

Try to pm me now.

[TonyMetal_1986]

Never knew that such oppressing laws against men exists, yet feminists are still claiming that they still have a long way to go, but to where to annihiliate men completely 😒

If my country had such laws, i'll have 2 choices, gather men and women to destroy and change all these laws or pack my briefcase and immigrate to a stone age country...

[joeblow123]

@tonymetal_1986

Your financial situation dictates which choices you make. Traveling is expensive. Also a lot of countries hate America and Americans so that is something else I would have to worry about.

[TonyMetal_1986]

I don't hate americans and i personally hate no one, there are a lot of good americans and everywhere there are the good and the bad...

You must make changes in your own country with men who are like you, feminists are better than you, your the leader and your the hero, not them...

They achieved all these levels because males signed all the oppressing laws, not real men...

Women are affraid and also adores real men because they know that real men cannot manipulated, i don't accept you seduction and pussy so you a get a sign for something or high paid job... your just like anyone else...

It's because some shitty males, the world is like that now, when the leader becomes a pest, he should be dragged out of his position...

[joeblow123]

@tonymetal_1986

I do fight back with activism: mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/search?q=activism

Yes we do get victories:

mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/search?q=victory
masculistman.freewebspace.com/...%20mccaskill.html
mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/.../...-stick-it.html

[TonyMetal_1986]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[SecretGardenBlood65]

Good mytake

[joeblow123]

Thank you.

[Ronnie_45]

Men have a lot of problems all over the world. Feminists created femdom and findom. Even if we beat feminism. There are other forms of feminism we face. Like femdom and findom. Misandry is not only belong to feminism. Women make men slaves in femdom and findom in the name of fetishes. I don't see any difference. As a masculist, I reject all kind of misandry include femdom and findom. There shouldn't be violence against men in the porns or in the name of fetishes. The solution is not fighting against feminism. The solution is fighting for mens rights and being a masculist. The reason is, trying to stop feminism and feminists won't work. They will say to you "this is not feminism", " this is not real feminism" and things like that. They will easily manipulate you. But if you become a masculist, you will be popular, everyone will start to talk about masculism. Mens rights will be on table. Mens rights will be on table to discuss. Of course we should criticize feminism, but our main purpose should be supporting mens rights.

[meesegoMoo]

Seems like a movement for whine men in most of it's aspects. I do think female pedophiles need to be brought to justice, but I also think we need to be tougher on that group in general.

I see nothing wrong with the draft being male-only, in fact I support it. I'm glad you didn't complain about how men can't force women to have abortions, that's where most of my distaste for the movement comes from.

[coffeewithcream]

That's never been a men's rights issue.

[meesegoMoo]

@coffeewithcream The draft? Or the abortion thing? Because I've heard both argued by men's righters often and loudly.

[coffeewithcream]

The abortion thing. I've never heard that from men's rights groups.
Your mistake is- and this is really over the top- is believing men's rights groups advocate for forcing women to have abortions. That's ridiculous.
Men's right's groups, as far as I've studied, merely point out disparity and what seem to be accepted myths- for example that women are paid less by discriminatory practices rather than women's choice of occupation and part-time work.

[meesegoMoo]

@coffeewithcream I've argued with several activists who said that men should have a choice in abortions. They never phrase it as forced abortions, but they say they have a right to decide if their child is born or not and so do women.

Have you really not met ANY of the dudes I'm talking about? It could be that I just happened upon some of the more extreme members of the movement.

[coffeewithcream]

Apparently you have.
I've never met a single male involved in the men's rights movement. I've watched many videos and read extensively on it (Jordan Peterson, Bettina Arndt, Cassie Jaye, Warren Farrell, Sonja Starr, Mary Cook, the late Christie Blatchford) watched Jaye's Red Pill, of course, listened to podcasts and watched TED talks.
I'd say those advocates for men's rights put forward very reasonable positions.
I've never personally run into anyone involved in the men's rights movement, but I have run into many women who strongly advocate for women's rights and feel women are being disadvantaged by a toxic patriarchy. I've also talked to older men, divorced with kids, I've worked with them, and who, during lunch room conversations, have described how they been totally fucked over by the court system in horror stories that would curl your hair. But none of them- maybe half a dozen or more in all, were men's rights advocates. They were just working guys trying to get by.

[meesegoMoo]

@coffeewithcream I don't trust too many of those. I came from the south. In the northern U. S. it's common for men to get screwed over in divorce cases, but in cult country it's the opposite.

I've noticed most modern feminists don't actually pay any attention to real sexism. I grew up in a place where women had an extreme disadvantage, yet all the NY fems I've met would rather tackle "micro-aggressions".

I'll have to check some of those people out. I'm not a fan of Jordan Peterson, he makes some very good points about personal responsibility but his religious psycho-babble bothers me. Alright for a canuk.

[coffeewithcream]

True. Micro-aggressions seem to be the latest major issue for urban women.
Christie Blatchford was a newspaper reporter, a columnist. You'll have to pick through her stuff, but she wrote about the Jian Ghomeshi case, the murder cases involving Karla Homolka's preferential treatment as a co-accused. Cassie Jaye's TED talk is also worth watching.

[meesegoMoo]

@coffeewithcream You sir, have earned a follower.

[coffeewithcream]

Muchos gracias, as they say in Flin Flon, Manitoba.

[joeblow123]

@meesegomoo

You're barely out high school and your experience with women and life is not that extensive. I would have said the same thing at 19 because I still bought into the blue pill bullshit. Nineteen-year-olds are not that experienced when it comes to life. I guarantee that in 20 years you will not hold the same opinions.

[joeblow123]

@coffeewithcream

Actually it has been brought up: the child is half his but according to the law he has no say. If he wants to keep the child but she wants to abort he has no choice. If she wants to keep the child but he is against it he has no voice. Yet when it comes to a vasectomy he cannot get one without a woman's signature. Without a woman's signature, most doctors won't perform it yet his testicle are attached to his body completely independent of the woman.

[joeblow123]

@coffeewithcream

"I've never met a single male involved in the men's rights movement."

Now you have: https://mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/

[meesegoMoo]

It's only SOME doctors that require to consent of your spouse, which seems fair. If you're married life is a bit different. I don't support married women getting to make those choices without the input of their husband.

[CheezyPizza]

There is no justice for anyone, the system is fucking bias and they will do whatever they see fit, i have no problem seeing women succseed but im also not political so i dont have to put shit like this up, just deal with it

[joeblow123]

@CheezPizza

When you get fucked over by institutionalized misandry just deal with it. When you find yourself in lock up on a false rape charge and you become Bubba's girlfriend just deal with it. When Bubba gives you AIDS just deal with it.

[vannefftor]

Just be yourself, grow a pair, and fight for whatever you stand for. Toxicity exists in all facets of life but playing the victim for men or women is doing little more besides self-labeling, not activism lol.

[joeblow123]

@vannefftor

I do have a pair. The only difference is that mine are still attached while yours are in your girlfriend's/wife's purse.

I do practice activism:https://mensrightsboard. blogspot. com/search? q=activism

Perhaps if you had asked instead of making a fool of yourself in front of the entire planet then perhaps less people would be laughing at you now.

[JimboGB]

That was truly awful to have to read. Cry me a river and get over it. Talk about first world problems, dam!

[joeblow123]

@JimboGB

I'm sure when you hit prison convicted on a trumped-up rape charge I'm sure you'll be singing the blues too. Especially after lightsout.

[JimboGB]

Only one of us has rape on the mind. Be strong and fight your demons.

[joeblow123]

@JimboGB

But I won't be the one experiencing it.

[BlacklightShade]

Men have it so tough these days.

[MountAverage]

I genuinely pity people like you.

[joeblow123]

@MountAverage

Truly pitiful people are those who reply with insults instead of rational arguments because they lack the intelligence to mount a rational and intelligent argument so they say the adult version of "you're a doodyhead".

[MountAverage]

There was nothing irrational about my comment, you're just butthurt. And you're a hypocrite, because your whole myTake is nothing but a long insult.

Typical incel.

[MountAverage]

But hey, now I don't pity you anymore. I resent you.