Do you agree drunk sex is rape?

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heavensgift2girls · Accepted Answer

Whether one or both of them were drunk changes nothing. If you consent, then you consent. I don't know any man on the planet that is so stupid that he could be tricked into getting drunk and having sex when he doesn't want to. Women should be held to that same standard, if they expect to be treated like adults.

If a person can't handle that standard, the answer is simple. Just don't drink. Give up your rights to drink, and remain a child for the rest of you life, because they clearly can't be held responsible for their own actions. People can not seriously expect to separate alcohol and sex. Lots of men and women purposely get drunk because it relaxes them so they are more open to sex all the time, and most of them love it. You can't expect them not to have a right to do that anymore because everyone is too afraid to touch them. If a person wants to be treated like an adult and drink, then they need to accept responsibility for the choices they make while drunk. They really need to grow up and accept responsibility for their own choices.

Anyone that claims that one of them being sober makes it rape clearly haven't thought things through. Not only does the person being sober not change the fact a drunk person is still responsible for their own behavior, but at that point you are basically just turning alcohol into a shield so they don't get a rape charge. ll the person has to do is to take a few drinks and do what they were going to do anyway.

AleDeEurope · Accepted Answer

Drunk rape isn't rape unless one of the individuals is unconscious or clearly in a state where they can't make decisions.

It is amazing how a man is responsible for his actions 100% of the time, but women are excused in this situation. Why? If both are drunk, why is he at fault, and not her?
Ridiculous.

vishna · Accepted Answer

I don't think many people would think he was wrong. Obviously in this situation they are both simply drunk. Ex) Kent and Jade are hanging out. They go back to Jade's place and get drunk. They have sex while drunk. End of story, no matter how much either of them regrets it.

However, if she passed out before she agreed, even if he was drunk, it is rape. Ex) Mike and Sara have been flirting all night at Mike's house. Sara and Mike get drunk. Sara passes out. Drunken Mike penetrates Sara while she is passed out. Mike raped Sara.

Having sex with someone who passes out during sex is wrong as well. That's rape, they gave consent 5 minutes ago when they would be an active, engaging partner, they didn't give consent to physically black out and give their body to that person to use in whatever they want (which might be in ways the person would say no to if awake.)

I think people get mad because just because the guy isn't thinking straight when he commits a crime, that doesn't make it any less of a crime. If I kill someone when drunk, I still killed a person, in the right mind or not.

4465loveyou5577 · Accepted Answer

As a person who was raped via physical force, no it is not. While being drunk may impair people's ability to make decisions in a manner similar to date rape drugs, the difference is that if they got drunk they willingly put themselves in that impaired situation and have to live with the consequences of their decision. If a girl can call drunk sense "rape" because her capacity to make informed decisions was impaired then a guy who physically raped a girl while he was drunk could just as easily he should be off the hook because he shouldn't be held accountable for his decisions because he was impaired.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

This is why innocent guys get thrown in jail, and why girls who were actually raped are called liars. Drunk sex is not rape. If a girl can't consent when she is drunk than neither can a guy. This is just excusing girls to lie about being raped when they really weren't. Rape is such a serious topic, and I hate how people take it so lightly or lie about it.

lumos · Accepted Answer

If she was unconscious but he wasn't, then he raped her.
If they were both drunk and conscious of what was happening, it wasn't rape.
If he was sober and she was considerably drunk/unconscious, then he clearly took advantage of her drunk state and I would call that rape as well.
And vice versa, if we reverse the genders.

Anonymous · Answer

women and men should not put themselves in a position to be so drunk -at least in public- that they dont know what they doing. Many bad things can happen, the world is not ideal and people should not put themselves in a state that they have no idea whats going on around them. To answer the question depends, did he know she is out of her face and "lure" her to have sex (then he should know she didn't consent) or at the time she was ok to do it and he genuinely didn't try to take advantage (then drunk or not she consented) .

JudgmentDay · Answer

If both parties are drunk then it should not be. Both parties should just get their lawyers and attorneys or something. Gee, that must be a really messy and sticky situation that guy got himself into. I hope eventually everyone learn this and becomes aware of it and not end up in the same situation that he was in. They seriously need to update the laws or some shit on this one. Both parties should take equal blame for what they had done to each other/with each other.

If one party is and one isn't then legally it is defined "rape".

Getting drunk and getting into trouble really sucks big time, therefore always drink responsibly and be careful about how much alcohol you consume.

LadyMcNovel · Answer

Just don't get drunk if you aren't trying to get down. Most girls are total teases. If you are gonna start the engine, best take it for a ride! In VERY RARE cases, this may be fact... but more often than not, it's bunk. Just totally stupid. Ladies bes screaming "rape" all too often.

Jxpxtxr · Answer

Only if one person is basically dead drunk so it's clear they couldn't give consent while the other is still very aware of what's happening so they're taking advantage of the situation. Even worse if they filled that person up or put something in their drinks with the motif of raping them in the first place, which actually happens far more often than people like to believe!
In any other situation it's just that, drunk sex.

Mistnigqa808 · Answer

FUCK NAW, but by the #WHITE man's LAW it is LOL. So yeah I guess my OP on/of this whole topic doesn't even matter.

Frost_Byt3 · Answer

I think that if a guy stays sober and pruposely gets a girl drunk in order to take advantage of her, then it is rape.

But that's usually not the case. Most times, the man is drunk too, and therefore wasn't technically able to give consent either. In this case they should either both be treated like victims or both be treated like rapists.

akadatank44 · Answer

It all depends on every situation. What do you consider drunk? I can be legally drunk ie blow a 0.08. But I don't feel drunk and remember everything.

Its really hard because I was about to say that if both parties are drunk it still can be skewed. Because the girl could be home walking by herself home and some guy saw her and decided to play gentleman like to take advantage of her.

I think its all depending on how they met ideally. Because you know it's not a split second decision. Its hey that guys cute. I'll go home with him tonight. Every situation is different

TadCurious · Answer

I did a myTake on this subject:

kittykatbrat · Answer

Tbh, I am totally OVER people who drink and refuse to take responsibility for themselves... the end!

Yumix · Answer

the only case where you can consider it rape is when one of them is so drunk that it's really obvious that she doesn't consent to it... like if she's almost passed out or something like that, and the other one has still a clear mind.

but if we talk about the normal drunk like 99.9% of people are... then nope, definitely no rape.

worldscolide · Answer

I am sorry, That picture is feminism in action. It is not. The only time it is, is if she or he was forced. Full stop end of story end of discussion. Saying that he or she is not responsible for actions while drunk is the same as saying. I am going to drink and drive, hit a family of three, kill them, and the judge will be ok with it because i am not responsible because i was too drunk to know any better. Feminists stop playing the victim, and stop turning good girls in to victims.

poopedmypantsagain · Answer

Well if it not consented to.. yes.. but being drunk and it was consented to I do not think he would be too good of a partner for this activity.. although he would think so.. being drunk makes you think you can do many things.. sex is not one of them in my view.. nor is much else.. take care

GnarCute · Answer

drunk sex is not rape its your choice to get drunk in public and if both parties are drunk then its still just sex

uknaked · Answer

Even if both are drunk, someone has to initiate sex, usually the guy. If he was too drunk he would not be able to keep a hard on and sex would fail to take place.
On that basis, if sex took place, it can be classed as rape if she said no!

Anonymous · Answer

I think it's rape when someone says no or when someone is clearly not in the right state of mind. When someone is intoxicated, that doesn't mean they are necessarily blacked out and incapable of making decisions for themselves. I've had sex drunk many times. That being said, I don't agree with victim blaming so if someone truly believes they were a victim, then I do think it was rape.

BelleGirl21 · Answer

Not at all. People shouldn't be stupid enough to get that drunk if they can't make decent life choices. Accept responsibility for your actions people.

MadeInAmerica · Answer

If they are both drunk then no. It's just a bad mistake that both of them made. But sense guys want to get laid it's always put that women was taken advantage of.

Anonymous · Answer

It's not rape if a woman knows that she can't make clear decisions when she's drunk. It's called personal responsibility. An idea feminists seem to hate. All you gotta do is know your limit and don't get drunk at a place where you know people go to hook up. Simple.

RationalMale · Answer

"Equality" means women have all rights, and no responsibilities.

If drunk sex is rape, than what is drunk driving? Deception by vehicle? How about drunk brawling, do we agree people were drunk and could not consent to fight?

Ironlak282 · Answer

As others have previously stated sometimes yes and some times no. One thing I will say is that the legal system while ok is highly flawed with many instances of illogical thinking. For example the idea that if you are to drunk to drive you are to drunk to consent to sex however if you crash your car while under the influence we still hold you responsible for your actions regardless of how intoxicated you were.

Anonymous · Answer

I think the lgoic for this is he showed intent by inserting his penis into her even though he was drunk. However, Im sure there are situations where the female shows intent. Also in court, in a rape trial, you cannot use as a defence that they raped you.

As a side note according to that leaflet Im a serial rapist. My girlfriend and I have often had drunk sex.

llorando · Answer

Unless a person purposely gets another person drunk, I don't consider it rape, tho it is immoral if someone gets their self drunk and a another takes advantage of them.

NYkid27 · Answer

It's not rape if both parties are drunk. Being a woman doesn't mean that you're automatically a victim even if you and the guy are equally drunk

jacquesvol · Answer

If he made her drunk on purpose e certainly isn't an inocent lamb!

apple24 · Answer

This is why If I ever get drunk its gonna be in my room with gag! lol

NoAbyss · Answer

If that pamphlet is for real then that's terrifying.

Words_and_Wisdom · Answer

Just because you're drunk shouldn't mean your no longer responsible for your own actions. You don't get a free pass from drunk driving, why should you if you have sex?
Having sex while conscious and drunk should not equal rape.

GingerGuy · Answer

No I don't. If you're "too drunk" then you're drinking too much and that's the real issue. I've been plenty drunk before but never that much.

suseel_sushi · Answer

depends.  moral: you wanna get drunk and passed out, do it in your room.

Anonymous · Answer

Drunk sex is stupidity on both parties part, but not necessarily rape.

Anonymous · Answer

if both are drunk both f***ed up not just the guy. Not rape cause they were both drunk and its also rape cause they were both drunk because they both raped each other. hence no one should be charged cause they were both drunk.

wejustwondering · Answer

it's rape, men have the control (the d**k) and they need to be responsible with it.

IamHungry · Answer

Ehh it can be I guess. Some of the best sex I've had was when we were both drunk

Anonymous · Answer

It can be sometimes but not always. There's a bit of a grey area here i think

gapminder · Answer

Well then I've been raped repeatedly on a consistent basis for most of my adult life.

orphan · Answer

just have her sign a written statement prior to getting drunk.

palek · Answer

Ya can't rape the willing!

SarahsSummer · Answer

Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't.

Hashirama · Answer

this kinda made me lose hope in humanity

VomitV · Answer

Not unless someone forced you to get drunk.

Anonymous · Answer

It is rape. I don't think there's really any reason it wouldn't be.

lime_rampljuset · Answer

Both should be charged.

Dred1614 · Answer

It's simple: they raped each other.

YoungJuice · Answer

It's not rape if we both dont want it

Anonymous · Answer

Wtf? Going and start walking with contracts now.

dominiquois · Answer

YES...

mikeaaa · Answer

That's just scary

Anonymous · Answer

Stop drinking SOLVED

Anonymous · Answer

no never

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