Do you think that accusation of rape is as bad as rape?

[Anonymous]

Just a question that popped into my head inspired by a video of a crazy lady accusing a man of raping her.

https://youtu.be/j-aLwoirVMY

I think that someone who accuses an innocent person of rape should be handed the same sentenced the accused would have received. Both are incredibly despicable acts.

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+1 y

I'm so sorry y'all. I shouldn't have asked this question. 😣 A better question to have asked would've been "Should someone that has accused someone of rape get the same sentence the accused would have gotten?"

[DaveJord]

Well video aside, you do realize that there is no way for a man to prove he did not rape a women when she claims he did. She can go to the cops, fill a report and they will say it may or may not be a prosecutable... classic he said she said. Even when he is not arrested, or even charged or even investigated there is literally nothing the guy can do about his reputation and the slander being used against him. You can not sue her because you can't prove its slander, and cops will just say there is no evidence to support her claims... but she still insists that she was raped and the man has no way to prove he didn't.

Happened to me trust me, was married 22 years... wife was stealing from me. We filed for divorce, and she even said in her initial filing that there was no claims of domestic abuse. When I cut off the finical support and went after custody of my daughter, she files a rape charge against in May, for a marital rape she claims happened in January... five months later. My daughter believed her... the rape case was dismissed but she got 100% custody of the kid and full child support.

Nobody believed her, I mean no body... but there she was on Face Book talking about "Me To" and how women are so discriminated against. UNFUCKING Believable, I was a huge promotor of equal treatment I heard all these stories and thought it was conservative mansplaining bullshit... but never believed that someone or something like that would happen to me. Really made me rethink the gender war bull shit. Men's rights need to be protected to.

[KlinkyCoder]

I believe there are certain things that are just not forgivable.

[AndrésC64]

That's a tough question. It would essentially involve two trials. The first one would be where the accused is on trial. Being found "not guilty" is not the same thing as being found "innocent". If the accused were found "not guilty", then the question would be whether there is enough evidence to bring a case against the accuser. If the accuser were found "guilty" of a false accusation of rape, then they should definitely face some severe punishment. I don't know if it should be the same penalty as the accused would have received if they had been found guilty. But I think that's something to consider. I know people are already jumping out of their seats saying that this is going to scare people into not reporting actual instances of rape. But there would be three hurdles that would need to be overcome before the accuser would be in any legal peril. First, the accused would need to be acquitted. Second, prosecutor would have to be convinced that there's enough evidence to bring charges against the accuser. And third, the accuser would have to be found guilty, beyond a reasonable doubt, of this false accusation. To prove that the accusation was false, would be essentially the same thing as proving that the accused is "innocent". Again, "not guilty" and "innocent" are two entirely different things. If all of those three hurdles were overcome, then I could be convinced into having the penalty for such thing being equal. But I'm not 100% convinced of this idea and I'm more than willing to listen to what others have to say.

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[Tobemum]

I don't think you can compare the two as they're two different issues both with their own negative affects and both horrible for whoever it has happened too.

Unfortunately the justice system is fucked and so many reports of rape don't go any further than a report, I'd know myself, my ex raped me, admitted to it twice and I went through two years just to be told "we can't do anything because he thought he had consent" so what, rape is okay as long as I think I have conset?

Also the number of rapes and sexual assaults which are never reported or prosecuted far outweighs the number of people convicted of rape because of fake accusations. A lot of people keep quiet about it even though it's happened to them, I've been raped by one man, sexually assaulted by two and raped by a woman, only the one was reported because I knew it was useless trying again.

I personally think the entire system surrounding rape and sexual assault needs completely re writing.

I think it must be horrible to be wrongly accused but I don't think you can compare it to people who get away with rape and or people who have been raped because like I said, they're two different things.

[Tobemum]

Also you accuse someone of rape and it's "You're a slut", "you're ruining his life", "he has so much more to live for" - it was so much more than rape. I had death threats and I was absolutely terrified to leave the house. The majority of people took his side because "he could never do that, he's so nice to everyone!" - with this logic, I'd be in prison right now serving a sentence for being raped and being brave enough to report it.

[Asker]

Damn I'm so sorry that happened to you. I haven't been raped but I have been sexually assaulted before and I know those memories are painful to think about. And even people who I've told about it seem to make light of it. I even had one ex friend tell me it was my fault for putting myself in the situation.

[Aerissa_Jade]

Sad to think people say there is no rape culture, what you described is Rape culture. I've known women who came out and accused, then got pressured into recanting, imagine then being charged with a false accusation and going to prison (Like you said) as the rape victim.

www.heraldnet.com/.../

This story is now on Netflix, because had they not believing her lead to more victims down the road.

www.heraldnet.com/.../

[suckmynuts369]

Okay, so, fascinating things here before going further. Are you supporting the potato and Ketanji Brown Jackson? She's soft on pedo's which is worse than what you have experienced. Tell me you don't support Democrats.

[Aerissa_Jade]

I don't think anyone charged of any crime at all, should have that publicly announced by law enforcement, until after a conviction. This goes for any crime, rape, and mass shooters for example. NO name given on the shooter until a conviction is achieved, meaning they get no press or fame from it until a year or so down the road and then the fame is, your going away.

It isn't just a accusation of rape, any criminal accusation will hurt or ruin someone's life. We should all have a right to privacy until the conviction happens.

This would help to protect anyone from false claims.

As for is the accusation as bad, no it is not. As a rape victim I will say I'd rather have been accused a million times of raping a million people over what actually happened to me.

I've known men who lost their jobs and suffered badly, merely from a fake claim of domestic violence, that never even went to court, due to lack of evidence. The problem is far more reaching than just rape accusations.

[bamesjond0069]

"I'd rather have been accused a million times of raping a million people over what actually happened to me." So not able to get a job, kicked out of school, nobody wants to associate with you, people harass you online? Forever. Spouse leaves you and takes your kids. Going to court paying a lawyer for a year awaiting trial not knowing if you will go to prison or not... Just the way you said it made it sound like its just an accusation. And then you talked about it more serious but for your comparison you made it sound like nbd.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@bamesjond0069 Being actually raped is the same as murder, we die... so being accused is better than being raped or murdered.

I know that accusations ruin lives, but at the same time, many true rape victims will be pressured into recanting and then everyone says it was false, even though it really happened. Then those victims should be charged and get the same time as if the person who actually raped them would of gotten.

Does that sound right to you? send a rape victim to prison, because they are not strong enough to stand up to their attacker? It happens all the time, buying someone off or threatening their family if they do not recant.

Perhaps if you read what I said about identity should stay secret until a conviction you'd understand what I'm saying. I'm not for publicly releasing names of the accused until after a conviction, make it against the law to release it, anyone who talks goes to jail for it.

[bamesjond0069]

I agree and disagree on every point you made. The issue is there is no way to handle this in which all rapists go to jail and all false accusers go to jail and all innocent people are not severely harmed. So which group will be most screwed basically? Historically the legal process has been erred on the side of the innocent accused. Better to let 10 guilty men go than let 1 innocent man go to jail. This is why there is so much push back on rape specifically when there is no evidence except the accusers testimony. Also there is a reason why people are publicly charged and arrested because historically when this was not done, many countries had and do still have abuses where they would disappear people in the night for who knows what reason or how long or why. While that isn't common in america it still happens elsewhere and it could easily happen here as there is a lot of political pressure to allow the government to do such things... ie in the cases of "terrorism" so it is a very real danger.

[bamesjond0069]

Sorry long post...

Also i think there are competing social movements that are incoherent. I commented on another post at somepoint that we are in a culture of sexual freedoms, where a hypothetical scenario a woman consents to a list of 100 men for a gangbang. Some guy walks by and sees a line and joins in. The woman enthusiastically does her business with him. At the end does she realize it was 101 men. She the accuses rape and expects that one man found and severely punished. What kind of harm has she experienced? Has she been robbed of something? What if she doesn't even notice until 10 years later? Alternatively another woman is a virgin waiting until marriage, a man grabs her off the street with a gun ties her up and rapes her. Now her fiance and her have problems and they end up breaking up. She ends up with ptsd and never wants to be with a man ever. Has she experienced harm like the first woman? Is it the same crime? Are both even crimes? Should they be punished the same way? These are the things our society is having problems with because i think clearly these are two ends of a spectrum many people try to mush into a single category of rape. To most people this is incoherent. They experienced or heard of one side of this spectrum and either they then say ahh accusers are usually liars and ridiculous, if i short change a prostitute $5 on her fee thats a joke that its rape. While on the other hand many would say death penalty for rapists for people with the other scenario in mind. Our society is so split its hard to even discuss what is rape and whats not.

[globetrotter22]

@Aerissa_Jade “ so being accused is better than being raped or murdered.”

Okay you did put some hard thinking into this so i am not dismissing your viewpoint. But do you have any idea how devastating it is to a man to be falsely accused of something? Not taking anything away from rape victims. But a man’s reputation is the valuable asset he has. If ti make the horrible choice of being (secretly) raped with no recourse vs publicly being falsely accused with no recourse i would choose the former. Reason being is the ENTIRE world would judge me for the rest of my life guilty or not.

[Aerissa_Jade]

@globetrotter22 being charged with any crime ruins someone's reputation, regardless of what it is. The worse the crime the worse it gets ruined. Which is why I say privacy should be respect until conviction. Since I was raped I'd take being accused and having my reputation messed up for the rest of my life over that any day. One can recover your reputation one cannot ever move past being raped, EVER... rape is just as bad as being murdered.

Laurie said it perfectly here RAPE vs MURDER - Tales of Equal Tragedy! ↗

There is also a great deal of people that if your found not guilty don't think you did it, sure some do but a lot do not.

I myself and I know lots of others that say OJ did not kill his wife, he is innocent and should be treated as such as a good example.

You can move away and start over fresh, if there was a not guilty and people don't know who you are. I've seen it done, but there is only between 2% to 6% of actual reported rapes are lies and didn't happen. The vast majority are real.

Rape victims are often pressured or threatened into recanting and then others will scream and yell it was fake and they should be charged and convicted for the same sentence their rapist would of gotten.

That to me seems like the worse possible outcome, sending a rape victim to prison after they was raped and then came forward to report it and threatened into recanting it.

www.heraldnet.com/.../

[globetrotter22]

@Aerissa_Jade i do agree with keeping the alleged perpetrators ñame sealed until a verdict is reached.

What do you think about what Christine Blasey Ford did a few years ago?

[Aerissa_Jade]

@globetrotter22 Her timing proves it was a political move. Nothing more, but people have freedom of speech and can say what they want, smart people won't believe them and realize that.

Should she be charged for exercising freedom of speech, I don't think so. The liberal media should not take unproven allegations like that though and air them until a conviction happens.

[globetrotter22]

@Aerissa_Jade I think you and I are definitely on the same page about the liberal media.

However about “freedom of speech”. It is actually NOT legal to slander or libel somebody. False accusations should not be protected under law.

However I watched her testimony. Personally I believe that she believes what she is saying. But she had no witnesses, no evidence and over 30 years have passed. Your memory is not a video recorder unfortunately. It can be manipulated over time. I think this was most likely a mistaken identity or a gross exaggeration of the incident. But I do believe she believed her story. Doesn’t mean it happened though.

What I said above is absolutely no inference to what happened to you by the way. That obviously happened much more recently and I don’t like that piece of shit who did that anymore than you do. When the hard evidence supports the accusation i say lock em up and throw away the keys.

[Screamsgutter]

The whole 'false accusations are very rare' trope is kinda hard to defend anymore. We hear about it occurring all the time, in our personal lives, across the internet and on college campuses. During a conversation with two guys and a girl I know, it turned out we each knew a guy who was falsely accused of rape or some sort of sexual assault. Then the girl says these cases are very rare and I was dumbfounded. I was like 'yup, they're so rare all four of us know someone it happened to. What are the chances of that?'. It's not rare, and it's only getting worse. In the past three years lawyers specializing in false accusations of such crimes has tripled, at least in the US. Lawyers specialize in what the market dictates. Why do you think there are so many divorce lawyers? I can name ten college cases where men were falsely accused here and in the UK. And until there is some sort of legal deterrent for, y'know, committing perjury, filing a false report or just wasting a bunch of peoples' time, it'll continue.

Then there's the everchanging definitions of sexual assault, harassment and even rape. The woman in the video is crying rape and it's obviously not. A few years ago in the UK some group polled a bunch of women I believe between the ages of like 14 and 38 - apparently 92% of them said they've been sexually harassed. That was until they scrutinized what the poll was allowing as harassment (staring, unwanted approach/conversation, saying hello... really?) and it dropped down to 86%. Naturally there was no poll asking as many men if they've been sexually harassed. Probably 'cuz any number close to 86% would've undermined their whole victimhood angle. Plus as men we're intrinsically supposed to like it or something. And whose doing all the accusing? Not men. Not by a longshot. And since men aren't (falsely) accusing women of rape, women will never know what it feels like to be in that predicament. Men, however, can and are raped by both genders. So in actuality, men aren't alien to the aftereffects of rape.

Off-topic a little, as a former bouncer of 17 years, I've been crotch-grabbed, butt-fondled, hair-played, hugged, kissed and even almost partially stripped, all without almighty consent, by half-sloshed as well as sober women so many times I've lost count. Honestly, I never really cared. So what? But today it's the end of the world... when it happens to women. For them, it's a travesty. For me (and men in general), it's Tuesday. Another girl I've known for about 25 years (she's 47) admitted to me on the ride home after a partially drunk 'ladies night out', she leaned out the window and cat-called some guy walking down the sidewalk. Kinda hard to care if it happens to women when they not only can't seem to follow their own criteria, but practically have no shame about it.

[Anonymous]

You are all dumb as heck.
Yeah yeah a false rape accusation is bad but comparing it to an actual rape is absurd and honestly a whole bunch of male victimization (make the question again, ask those guys if they preferred for a guy to rape them or to be falsely accused of rape and see the answers change).
First of all, rape often means getting physical, emotional, interpersonal and cognitive disruption for life. Constant panic attacks, paranoia, being physically unable to be in a room with a male without shaking and vomiting, hysteria, suicidal behavior, rubbing your skin off to wounds just to get rid of the rapists scent, fearing going outside among another types of phobias, might even getting pregnant.
Who cares about losing assets, we're talking about losing one's mind. That is, if they don't die before that.
Besides, you all act like there's no social consequences to raped people, like being called liars, not ever having their rapists punished, being told it's their fault for being raped, in the case of pregnancy having to single parent a child you didn't wish to have or had conditions to, being shamed and rejected by a lover or family. In many countries you can be punished and even killed if you're raped.
So no, an accusation of raped is not comparable to an actual rape.

[Ekvark]

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[bamesjond0069]

Why a guy? Women get raped by men. So your hypothetical would be a woman raping a man. And fuck yes id rather be raped by a woman than falsly accused of rape.

[Lionman95]

I´m not sure if one can really weigh the emotional consequences of rape against each other. Bot from a guy´s perspective you´re life is over if you´re accused of rape no matter if you´re guilty or innocent because no one will believe you that you didn´t do anyways. All will say it´s not been proven but that doesn´t make you innocent.
On the other hand the feeling of being raped is surely devasting because who can you trust if you actually trusted the person that raped you?
I´d therefore say the situation can be similar for the person that´s concerned.

[Asker]

I like this answer.

[Lionman95]

Thanks I hoped it would be helpful in some way.

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

Oh absolutely, I think it is as bad as rape.


I think it’s a horrific thing to be labeled as and accused of. No one wants to be accused or labeled as a rapist… And anyone who (falsely, of course) accuses someone of rape, is just as bad as being a rapist.


Of course, they are incomparable crimes, but both can be traumatizing, life altering, and deserving of prison time.

[MCheetah]

@WhatTheHeckkkk
You have no idea how rare it is to find women empathetic enough to defend men on this issue. So many will just go "No, men don't matter and false accusations don't exist; only protect and believe women" and so forth.

[WhatTheHeckkkk]

@MCheetah I just speak from my own experience, and someone I know’s experience with being falsely accused. The kid ended up committing suicide because of a false accusation. Both rape and false accusations can destroy someone… It’s only fair to say that they are both horrible crimes.

[Screamsgutter]

Some of the reasons why they lie about it are so unbelievably petty too. Needed an excuse for missing curfew, to make boyfriend/boy she likes jealous, simple attention, he turned down an offer for sex or rejected her advances, an excuse to do bad on a test she forgot to study for, unsatisfied sexual result, he was rude, revenge, and my favorite, as a gag. Yes, as a joke. Some piece of shit girls made something up and spread it around, and the next thing they knew the cops were called to the school and were in the middle of taking this poor kid into custody, however before they could take him away the girls admitted on the spot that it wasn't true.

Absolutely amazing.

[monorprise]

I think Media is far too centralized into far too few types of people who spend far too much time colluding with each other to accomplish often unjust and ill-rational goals they generally agree on.

They tell us we all should just accept as true a mere acquisition to destroy a man as if it is true because women are too "Scared" to make a timely claim with actual evidence. All because the men who they happen overwhelmingly choose to report the claims against are their enemies.

It is a silly proposition that defies thousands of years of evidence to the contrary of such mere claims NOT being trustworthy. Instead playing upon people's ignorance and sympathy to enable the people running most media to destroy their enemy

[caitycat21]

Hell no. Rape is something that can and usually does leave permanent physiological damage to the victim where as rape accusations usually don’t lead up to anything especially since most rape victims don’t report. Especially given the fact that people don’t care about violence when it’s done against women, especially black and brown women.


Which is why known woman beaters like Chris brown can still be famous 🙄


Tw// domestic violence photos

[DonkeyDan]

As a man I live in semi fear of a fake rape accusation, it doesn't take a lot to have your entire life ruined, even if not charged with the crime, just the pure accusation alone will have everybody questioning whether you really did do it.

People lose their jobs, reputation, marriages and homes over things like this, it will hang over their head for the rest of their life.

It also takes away from the real rape victims with legitimate valid accusations, with too many false accusations out there being exposed, many women may not feel inclined to to make the accusation in fear of not being taken seriously.

While I don't think false accusation should carry the same sentence as rape it should definitely carry a very similar sentence.

Just imagine what would happen if a woman falsely accused someone of rape, and was found out, then some years later she really was raped, how well is that going to end for her.

Never cry wolf!

[sissyalexa]

I would say rape is still a more damaging thing to be subjected to but the people who cry rape when it's a complete fabrication are really terrible people, as the stigma of that can, quite rightly, stay with someone for life.

It's also why with rape cases it is best that it is dealt with some sensitivity and care and should not be so publicly aired, at least until their is something that can actually be substantiated.

It's a really difficult question but I think the reality is there are very very very few women who cry rape without some genuine cause!

I also think a lot of men struggle to truly understand concent or the pressure of inequal power dynamics.

The best way to fight rape is to educate better and to work towards a true equality.

[Shamalien]

This is shit for brains. You can’t educate a rapist out of raping, they know it’s wrong and do it anyway. All you do is turn all the nice guys into perpetual virgins who can never make a move and then ONLY rapey dudes get laid. That is the world we are almost living in now due to this fucktarded “education”

[sissyalexa]

When your born do you know fire is hot? Or that sharp things cut you? No buddy you learn them. You honestly just sound bitter that you think your a virgin cause your a "nice guy"

No dude, you just suck 😐

[Shamalien]

When you’re born you know damn well that being violent to another human being is wrong unless you are a psychopath and they cannot be trained out of it beyond fundamental personality development before age 5.

Fyi it’s cunts like you that make men wanna be violent towards women. I’m no virgin, but if I was, your comments would make me more insecure than ever and heighten my resentment towards women. Luckily for me I’ve been with a lovely girl who showed me not all women are cunts. In closing, fuck you and all your kind, not all women, but women like you can fuck right off. Imagine insulting the opposite sex because of the amount of sex they have or have not had... so low, especially from women to man, since so many men are perpetual virgins these days, something like a third of men under 30. This is a really big problem, and when those men get into bad resentful emotional states no amount of “training” or logic will stop the ticking time bomb of that mental instability

[Shamalien]

Are you even a real woman or just some butthurt faggot who dresses like one?

[sissyalexa]

Actually when you're born you don't know violence is wrong, you have no idea of the concept of violence, and you talk about how a girl showed you that not all girls are cunts 😐 so you're saying she taught you to respect women?

[Shamalien]

I was conditioned out of my natural masculinity and I am not happy about the years I spent under that mind control. Luckily I emerged from it in my mid 20s, but many men do not. I felt like any move I made made me a rapist. I would actually ask before I kissed a girl. Anyone that thinks that is normal or romantic is fucked innthe head, that is fucking mind control and totally not natural. This whole society is upside down

[sissyalexa]

And yeah I'm a bisexual cross dresser, and?

[Shamalien]

You’re a butthurt faggot who is totally fine with young men being shamed and brainwashed out of their masculinity because YOU ARE THE PROUD PRODUCT OF THAT MIND CONTROL WORKING WAY TOO WELL

[sissyalexa]

And you watch too much shit on the Internet and spout lazy conspiracy's that make you feel better about your inadequacies, call me a faggot all you like, I don't repel people and can actually have relationships in person, you will stay a perpetual virgin angrily attacking people online 😐 sooooo enjoy buddy! 😉

[sissyalexa]

Also nothing to say about a woman teaching you to respect women? I thought education didn't help?

[Shamalien]

hey guess what bitch YOU AREN’T A WOMAN YOU ARE A SELF LOATHING MAN and I have very little respect for you after you insult me repeatedly. You drive men to violence, that is what you do, you encourage the very worst then complain about it. Fuck off

[Shamalien]

I hope you take all your boosters

[sissyalexa]

Fuck me dude, step away from the keyboard and take a deep breath! God I hope you're not American, people like you should need a licence to speak let alone carry a gun!

[Shamalien]

Suck another dick you fucking self loathing faggot man hater go sissify someone else. I’m Canadian and I’m getting my license this year and NOBODY has the right to tell me what I can and cannot own because NOBODY OWNS ME

[Shamalien]

They did a fucking number on you kiddo, THEY REALLY FUCKED YOUR HEAD GOOD and now you’re suffering from stockholm syndrome. You’re the slave that gets jealous when other slaves escape the plantation. You’re the crab that drags his fellow crab back into the bucket.

Fuck off trash. Go make fun of virgin men more you absolute piece of shit and see what that results in, see what comes your way

[sissyalexa]

Yeah you think for yourself don't you! No one tells you what to think! The world is flat! The Queen is a lizard! Climate change is made up and your opinion is fact right! 🙄 we done Mr Ike?

[sissyalexa]

And I genuinely feel sorry for the people around you 😐

[Shamalien]

You haven’t even been born there’s no point talking to you. Keep telling yourself I’m the crazy one you messed up cross dressing freaj

[AvaOneLasTime]

At this point , we know you are man, behind pink profile. You admitted it yourself, in your very first questions and said it yourself, that you are here to troll and spew your agenda.

[MCheetah]

For a second, I thought you were talking gorillas...

I think ACTUAL legitimate rape (not "eye rape," drunken consensual sex, or MeToo bullsh*t), is the worst thing. So to answer your question, no, it is not 100% equal to rape. HOWEVER, rape accusations should be treated almost as seriously as rape itself, as the accusation alone can and has ruined men's lives before.

So I'd say the accusation of rape is maybe 80% as bad as rape itself, with the difference being harm to your reputation and standing as a person, where as rape does mostly psychological and potentially physical harm, to the person. False rape accusers who are proven to be liars should have to do 80% the prison time the accused would've gotten for the crime if it was real. The harm to someone's reputation, mindset, and employability should not be discounted simply because it is not as physical of damage to someone.

In short, both are very bad and should not be condoned.

[KlinkyCoder]

Interestingly, I think religion doesn't help with this "eye rape" thing either, whether Jesus meant that thing in the Bible literally or not. That's why as a man I felt disenfranchised by the church I grown up in.

[molonski2]

I agree with you --
But , what they have done is completely blurr the lines with regard to this so called action , and the facts are that much of it is just NOT rape at all , something happens post , and all is turned around..
Gang bangs where 90 were consensual and one was not ! Bullshit , dont partake if you wish to play that card. Real rape , is being dragged down a lane ( or anywhere ) and taken against you will , its not all this other stuff. Yes these women should be charged , just bitter and twisted.

[Kaamraj]

Pain, suffering, are qualitative and cannot be compared like numbers. Rape is a terrible thing to happen and leaves permanent physiological and physical marks. Accusation of rape leads to loss of reputation, livelihood, and distress and in case of conviction on false accusation can lead to worse eg. physical abuse and at times even death because rapists along with ChoMos are seen as the absolute low in the prison hierarchy.

False accusation, or trivializing rape does another thing, it reduces the credibility of genuine victims. So the majority has to suffer for the selfish goals of a few. Therefore, I support strict punishment for rape, even capital punishment, however it has to be based on evidence and the burden of proof will have to be on the accuser and state prosecution.

[Moose304]

I think it can be argued that a false charge is a bit worse than a real case. Let me explain! With a real case, justice gets done hopefully everybody from the first cop on the scene all the way through the Justice System does its job right and the man gets to spend a long time behind bars! When a false charge is made there is a VERY real chance an innocent man will spend YEARS locked up! Look at what Biurny Peguero did! (google that name) Then on top of this, a false charge can make the real victim of rape less believed! This leads to the very real possibility that a guilty man is walking free to rape again! I was falsely charged with stalking several years ago. Thankfully the cops got the real story a few hours later! Unless you have been through this situation first hand you have NO IDEA how it feels to be falsely charged with a crime!

[blissinanarchy1]

I went through this. Accusation was that it was consensual at first, she took consent away in the middle of sex, that I pinned her down, she fought me off, started riding me, gave me head, and that I fingered her against her will (while she was showing me how to finger her). There was a sex tape. I got charged. I did 18 months because of how high bail was and covid kept pushing my trial back. I was found completely innocent. She wasn't charged with anything, I wasn't financially reimbursed. Nothing. And retaliation is illegal.

[MrtoddsWildRide]

I won't put them on a scale. Saying one is worse diminishes the other. In my career, I have dealt with the aftermath of both happening to others.
Rape is awful. The physical damage is horrible, but the emotional, mental and spiritual damage is far worse and often lasts a lifetime. The best a therapist can do in many cases is help them live with it.
False accusations of rape are also horrible. People have their entire lives destroyed. Careers ruined, marriages wrecked, reputations left in a shambles. People that were close to them will always think of them as a rapist, even if they can prove they are not. Those are often the people he was closest to before.
Emotionally, mentally and often financially they are destroyed with no way to build back again. That's if they don't go to prison.
Both are caused by disgusting people and both are far too common.

[SmokyOne]

I think false accusation of rape is equally bad yes.

While missing the physicality of sexual assault false accusations are life altering. Lose family, friends, job, community. Even when proven innocent your reputation and relationships never heal to what they one were, there will always be a heightened awareness when you're around.
People may choose to assault you or harass you after the fact.

And there is pretty much no recourse or criminal charges that come even close to being a serious deterrent

[Msputiton]

Fake rape accusations are just as bad as rape.
When you rape someone you destroy someone's trust. Alter their minds and cause trauma to someone. It could ruin their lives.

Fake rape accusations do the same.
The fear of having sex with anyone because of fear of repeat accusation.

Trauma from spending months to years fearing going to jail for a crime you didn't commit. Or actually going to jail for it.

Both will change someone for life.

[DaySpring]

Both actions are destroying someones life in a major way. They are very different but lead to the same general result. You know your comment reminded me of Kobe. After he was accused, he was paranoid according to former NBA players that knew him.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

I think it's very tough to say let's say something happened to you and you are you can say ok it was not my fault and can blame someone.

Most people get sympathy which is good and bad in its own way


Nobody has any compassion towards rapists for obvious reasons.


Now to live accustaion of something you not even did and to get punishment for that is also very soul hendreing process.

You can never come out of it and nobody would love you anymore.

Everyone will look you like criminal.

Both are very bad in there own way

[TrueConfection]

I think it's possibly worse. A woman can go back to her family and job. A man falsely accused of rape will be cancelled. His children won't even be able to return to school.

As far as criminal charges against women who make false accusations;

Yes, I believe they deserve a long prison sentence. However, that is a slippery slope and I'm not sure what the correct approach would be. Actual rape victims would fear being prosecuted for false claims.

[bamesjond0069]

"Actual rape victims would fear being prosecuted for false claims." I think they should have a fear of this because its been proven a certain type of woman will wait 10 years to make an accusation and typically those ones even if were raped remember it so wrong they remember a man with a huge beard and 7ft tall dressed in a suit. Then they find a video somehow and its a clean shaven 5ft tall construction worker. These kinds of women who do this should have to take a breath and say I've gone 10 years why am i going to bring this up now and how accurate is my recollection of this event? They need to be held responsible for accusing completely inaccurate things. This kind of thing has actually seen men behind bars get released when we find out the accuser is so out of touch with reality yet with no evidence gets a man in prison. Say i go to sell my car to John and john pulls out a gun and steals it from me. I wait 10 years and then accuse Mike of doing it. Mike I saw you i went to meet you mike it was you. Mike should sue me for defamation and libel etc and i should face a charge of false reporting even though my car was still stolen at gun point. I had a duty to say it was john or if i wasn't sure to say i wasn't sure. I would have failed in that duty and be responsible for the damages.

[Agape93]

A false accusation can be, but in my opinion, being an actual rape victim is infinitely worse than being accused of committing the act. You can always move to a new area or country, and likely people won't know who you are and you can move on. Rape victims don't get that privilege. We're stuck with it for life.

[FR_Ruby]

Technically not but it deserves a similar punishment because the accusation was made with the intention of punishing the innocent party severely & also: false accusations throw all other rape allegations into question which is an egregious consequence.