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+1 ymore harm than good? no. but there is no doubt that there are flaws within the system that really need to be addressed.
an example i can provide occurred just recently. my wife works for an adoption service. they got a call about 3 kids who's parents are opiate addicts. they have 3 children under the age of 2 (one set of twins). when my wife got there she said the house reeked of heroine and the children (again all basically infants) were just in a pen. the twins were 2 months old and just lying on the floor. the parents admitted that they only fed the children milk (not breast milk). the 2 year old had never even eaten solid food and still was unable to walk. the 2 year old also had cracked ribs that a doctor said had been this way for nearly a month.
my wife and her service took the children to interim care but because drugs were involved they had to call CPS. CPS ultimate goal is to keep kids with parents and that's what they did. rather than let these three kids get adopted CPS returned them to a very dangerous living situation where they were malnourished and neglected.
the system needs reform for sure. the idea of trying to maintain families is noble but in many cases children simply shouldn't live with their birth family56 Reply- +1 y
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@Bparker if parents don't want to lose their children then they care for their children. 2 month infants should be laying on the ground while their parents are getting high. they shouldn't have cracked ribs that go untreated. a 2 year old can not develop correctly drinking only cows milk.
yes it would be great if the parents got their act together but since they haven't they shouldn't be allowed to have children in their care be abused, neglected and put in constant danger - +1 y
Well some people don't have enough money to pay for medical bills or insurance so they use the system to pay for it like they are. Yeah they were high and they are scummy people in my book because of the possible health issues from the baby no being treated but I feel it should be temporary and I don't know about you but if you haven't heard of the horror stories of cps. They just take and take and don't investigate the homes kids go into
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@Bparker "they just take and take and don't investigate the homes kids go into"... this may be true. but in my scenario CPS did try to put the children back in the home.
my wife was devestated. 1. because the parents tried to blame the adoption agency for the injuries the child had...2. my wife had an incredible family lined up to take the children (all three at once which is hard) but CPS decided the children should go back to the parents
i personally think CPS should be (short of entire departmental reform) eliminated and privatized to non-profit organizations like my wife's agency. they work in the best interests of the birth parents and children and since they are non-for-profit have no collateral obligations that can often get in the way of true welfare to children and families.
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yAll these people are stupid because they never have experienced cps. They put you in homes that don't take care of you they just want a paycheck. I was forced to wear pissed on pajamas for 2 days to a week. Can't remember exactly but yea plus. All of you need to imagine getting taken from your parents at any age below 10. Probably won't feel the greatest. Just remember your relationship and how you felt about your parents when you were that young. Cps does more harm then good.
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we're stupid because we've never had first hand experience with CPS? seems like most people here agree that CPS does more harm than good
Opinion Owner+1 y@madhatters4 have you been in the system? Hoping from home to home? The parents acting one way to the cps people when they are around then another way when they are away. I have bro and got abused in every home. Fuck cps. You expect them to put you in good homes but all you get is garbage and ghetto shit.
Opinion Owner+1 y@madhatters4 kids are better off with dead beat parents than cps.
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just because we haven't had personal experience within CPS doesn't mean we don't have a valid opinion. read people's responses. most of them condemn CPS. read my opinion in which i tell a story of CPS negligence. I know friends who went through CPS and the foster system and can say from their testimonies of the issues. my wife works in adoption and frequently deals with CPS and routinely tells me how corrupt and misguided the system can be
i'm truly sorry for your experience in the system. no child should have to be the victim of government bureaucracy and b. s.
Opinion Owner+1 y@madhatters4 exactly no child should so cps can go fuck themselves. And all your guys opinions are based off the information that cps says they do. Not on info from personal experience. But your right your opinion is your opinion but your stupid because you haven't experience it. Think of it like this... I would be stupid if I gave an opinion about sex but never had it before. I'm not experienced at all at that point so my opinion is invalid.
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so despite people not having experience personally in the system they agree with you... and they are stupid. don't understand that logic for a second.
clearly despite not having personal experience they still understand the issues in CPS. that clearly stands to reason that you don't have to personally experience something to know if there are issues on the matter.
I've never done heroin but i know the problems around it
I've never been in the mafia but i can certainly discuss the problems of it
Opinion Owner+1 y@madhatters4 oh k... Let me break it down. It would be stupid for me to diagnose someone with hiv if I wasn't a doctor right? They wouldn't know until they actually go through the experience of being tested and the test coming back positive. It would be stupid of me to tell someone what its like to be a marine and be deployed to a war zone if I haven't had the experience right? I would actually have to be a marine and go to war to be able to explain it. So it would be stupid of me to explain if cps is good or bad if I haven't been in the system to be able to explain it. People need personal experience to really be able to explain something or to have a valid opinion about something. If you really haven't gone through cps personally then how can you say its good or bad? The government controls what information you receive via internet and via school. So if you think you know all your doing is spouting out information the government is giving you not information from personal experience.
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i disagree. but oh well.
Opinion Owner+1 y@madhatters4 I have read other comments seeing how a kid had broken ribs though and I see where your support of cps comes from but if I were that kid I would rather take my chances with broken ribs and being very pissed at my parents then go to a foster home. Because knowing what I know now one pain of broken ribs would lessen a complete world of pain in foster homes. And I'm not saying all the homes are bad but 90% are so the bad outweighs the good.
Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yThere are notable failures in many city/county foster care systems and I don't deny that is a huge issue, but I still think they are generally the exception, not the rule. I have never seen a child taken into CPS custody that I didn't agree with the reasons it was done - and I have done a lot of work with troubled parents and kids in my life, so I have seen a lot. A lot of times it isn't even for the parent being bad but for the kid being out of control and the parent needing help to get the kid back on track.
The foster parents I have known were incredible, compassionate, giving, sane people.
None of that excuses the tragic situations where kids don't find a long term home and end up institutionalized, or when children are abused, neglected or endangered in their foster placements.20 Reply
4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No, children need to be removed from dangerous situations, hell, enough children aren't removed from bad homes-instead they're living in hell and grow up to be adults with unspoken trauma.
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4.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. They do a lot of stupid stuff but they do more good stuff then bad one
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+1 yThey've been busted dozens of times in dozens of states kidnapping children on false pretenses and then funneling the children into pedophile networks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2zO5f-EyJA
That's right, CPS is run by pedophiles. You think pedos would be smart enough to infiltrate schools and churches to have access to helpless children, but they wouldn't figure out Child Protective Services?
Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwV5RM05bfEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0OiNdj2aP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVoDtLPEHWA
This goes so high up that they kill Senators and get away with it. Pizzagate is not about a pizza restaurant, it's about global child sex trafficking rings that secretly run the IMF, WorldBank, UN, and most world governments, including law enforcement agencies.10 Replyno way.
child protective services do a lot of thankless work that everyone seems to sweep under the rug and ignore.
their main goal is to keep children with their parents and support parents to look after their kids, in their own home, in their own way, providing the children are safe.
they help with counselling, education, accommodation services, a million hours of time and care helping parents and children connect with their families, their communities and if needed, other community services.
for a child to be removed from a parents custody that parent has to be really bad at parenting as in totally neglectful (leaving a 3y/o to cook for themselves whilst getting high) or very, very abusive56 Reply- +1 y
"for a child to be removed from a parents custody that parent has to be really bad at parenting as in totally neglectful" That's not totally true, their many cases where kids were up and taken without any reason. FYI the more kids CPS adopts, the more money they get from the federal government.
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That's what CPS is SUPPOSED to be doing, but what they've really been doing is raping and killing the kids, see my post above.
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What you are saying is extremely naive. CPS removes kids first and asks questions later. False charges are too prominent. The majority of their work is good sure. But too many cases where they have no business getting involved and no real danger to the kid and they over react. My exwife is a family lawyer and she has seen it go both ways. Among the family law circle, CPS is not respected for their good work, it is a tool to leverage and is abused far too often to manipulate visitation and child support. They need more qualified people, more second opinions and more rules requiring evidence to remove a child from a home...
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Yep, it's all a money makin machine
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@lorando
I've heard of the horror stories but I've never actually heard a horror story. maybe these 'many cases' do exist but I have a hard time believing that.
I have worked with maybe about a hundred families who have had their kids taken away for some reason or another and all of them understood why and most we're working towards keeping the rest of their kids, getting back their kids or had had their kids returned to them.
I'm sure that adopting kids is an income stream for CPS but I also know it's not there only one.
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I resent your comment that what I'm saying is extremely naive. my comments are based on working in an emergency relief agency, (one of those community organisations I mentioned) directly with people going through these situations - +1 y
The pedophiles are at the TOP of the agencies, they don't deal with low-level regional offices, they have their minions who go out and select children, but that all happens against the back-drop of an agency full of good people trying heroically to save children, and that's why it's the perfect place to hide.
It's not every single CPS worker that's a potbellied pedophile, if you want to control Taco Bell, you don't bother controlling an assistant manager at store #1213121 in Nebraska, you just need to get the company president, and from there, everything flows.
You want horror stories?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyc9Zn3iWQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5JZx5J5W5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Vn705bMPk
I think our system is damaged, because a Kid can bruise their knee at school during recess and not say anything. Then a teacher who notices it can have suspicion of child abuse at home and report the parents. I know, because when I was like 12 or so I got into a fight with my younger brother at home. Ended up leaving him with a bruise on his arm. Teacher reported my father for abuse, when he did nothing wrong. The state took my dad to court and everything. Lawyer tried to frame my dad as a child abuser. All because that's how the system works.
I'm sure they do good work sometimes. But in my personal experience they have only done wrong. Luckily my dad didn't go to jail. I even told them my where my brother's bruises came from, but I was too young to go to court so there was just a statement. My dad can never be a teacher or do work where he's in charge of children because of that case.40 Reply
+1 yThe problem with CPS is they are judge jury and executioner. One social worker has one opinion with little evidence and they can disrupt a household while sorting it out and gathering facts. As most social workers are women, they have a large bias towards women. In a split family situation, a mom can call CPS with a phony charge and get the kids with little to no evidence. Yes sometimes it is justified, but too often it's not. He will get his kids back 60-90 days later, but the he'll they cause is more power than they have. If the child is in harms way ok. Totally get it. But in he said she said cases guys are fucked and it's just another part of the family court system that favors women and fucks guys. A system that doesn't believe dads can be good parents. If it is in the best interest of the child and their core belief is moms are better parents, guy just lose out. Oh, and have to pay extra child support while proving his innocence. Just not right...
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+1 yYes, Child Protective Services is like nothing. They make things worst.
They say their out to help the teen or small child but that is bunch of
monarchy. Sometimes people are best at getting professional counselor
to help them out instead of Child Protective Services. They say their out
to protect the child but I have lot doubt about them. I've seen a foster
mother who was given runaways to give them a home and protect them
and the teen ends up going out and getting in trouble or doing things
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+1 yIt depends. I think the question that should be asked is, why are there a lot of cases? What is causing CPS to be overloaded with MANY cases? CPS is only there because certain people choose not to do their jobs as parents/guardians. If parents/guardians actually did their jobs, then CPS would cease to exist.
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Isn't CPS an agency or is it an actual business? I thought it was a government agency.
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No, it can't be both. It's either a government agency or it's a business. Government agencies are NOT businesses and we shouldn't be treating them as such. Government agencies are non-profit agencies, compared to a business which is for-profit.
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No, it's not for profit - at least it shouldn't be. Government agencies are not-for-profit. The funding they get is from the government, which get it from the taxpayers.
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Do you have examples of when they would file false charges?
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Actually it is for profit, the more kids CPS takes and adopts out, the more money they get from the federal government.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ETfgoSmTHI
3.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I think it depends on the situation I'm adopted and CPS did not really do their jobs when I came to my Boucher mother but some children need to be taken away from their parents some parent should never have become parents CPS unfortunately has a reputation for doing more harm than good but they're the best we got right now unfortunately More often they do more harm than good however they do good here and there
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Anonymous(30-35)+1 yI don't think it helps a lot of children. I had a friend who's education was screwed over by CPS by bouncing her from high school to high school across the province. She was also in evironment that contained a lot of drug use from both staff and residents in her group home and nobody did a thing about it. She was also in a lot of dangerous situations just living in a group home.
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+1 yNo I think they have a legitimate reason to exist and because the cases where they fucked up are the most mediatised doesn't mean that child protective services don't often do a very good and even necessary job.
10 ReplyIt has its place sometimes but for the most part, its an abuse of power by the government
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yMost of the time a child in CPS ends up more fucked up than they would if they were home.
A lot of times they take a child when they shouldn't but then let a child stay when they shouldn't. It's a fucked up system.20 Reply
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yHow about fucking explaining your position before asking this question? Why do you think it might do more harm than good?
11 Reply3.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No system is perfect, but I feel that CPS is more good than bad
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+1 yyes because they are to burocratic and overloaded... a cps worker is meant to have 6-7 kids to look after the norm is 20 to upper 30s... they just don't have time to do the job well
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+1 yNot at all. In fact they should have more power in most cases to remove children from abusive households.
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+1 yAfter seeing the drunk, abusive and drug addicted parents on my block no.
10 Reply 3.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Be nice if a lot of these morons just wouldn't have kids in the first place.
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yThey do lots of harm and try to find an excuse to take kids away from parents that are struggling financially.
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+1 yThey try and do their job but fail to protect the kid
10 Replyin most cases it does more good
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+1 yCPS are REALLY needed.
20 Reply Nopes I don't think so
10 ReplyNooo
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 yNo, I don't...
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