Women have the most advantages in most things: Relationships, disaster rescues (women and children first), marriages, divorces and child custody with alimony. They don't have to die in wars. They can stay at home if they create a family. They have dedicated shelters to reside in if they are abused. Men commit 3 to 5 times as much suicide as women do. Women are innocent until proven guilty whereas men are guilty until proven innocent in courts. It's not as bad for women to be poor as it is for men.
It is a very scary place and society to be in if you are a man. You are at a great disadvantage and risk. I must proceed with extreme caution if I do anything outside of my home.
We do matter! But I am considering withdrawing for my own safety and well being.
I personally decided to assume a MGTOW mindset for life, but only after three nearly fatal LT relationships with women. When I say fatal, I mean that all three took actions that could have had grave consequences on my future and might have forced me into terrible situations - even deadly situations - had they succeeded. All three used the law deceptively to either (a) attempt to destroy my life because I was leaving them, or in the last case (b) transfer as much of my accumulated wealth to themselves through deception and the use of perfectly legal, anti-male laws. The only reason I'm here writing today is because each screwed up somewhere in the process and lost their cases against me. In other words, I've got nine lives and have been very, very fortunate so far.
Dismissing the MGTOW mindset as losers living in their mother's basements is really bad advice. I'm very well off financially and turn down relationships with women regularly. MGTOW exist in an attempt to save other men from our hyper-gynocentric, misandric legal environment. I got lucky. I escaped three separate attempts to severely harm or destroy my life. I'll not sit quietly by and watch other men forced through that same meat grinder without at least a fair warning.
There will be plenty of guys and girls here that will tell you MGTOW are losers and to ignore the mindset. Why do they write that? Lack of experience or they stand to lose if men opt out of legal/financial commitments to women. Most guys before the age of 32 have no clue what they're talking about. When I was that age - I was clueless, too.
Take it for what it's worth - because its worth is priceless.
You can, but that isn't going to change how you feel about this at all. If you're concerned about female supremacy, then you're going to have to equalize your relationships with the women around you. You aren't going to solve any problems by running away from them.
@Mexicoman101 maybe you should go join him. You can cry together and hold each other while bemoaning the cruelty of all women and how unfair this obviously female dominated society is.
@TheLuckyPizzaDog I don't give a fuck about your petty gender squabbles. But there are contingents of society who feel isolated, wounded, or just ignored & I think in this context you would benefit from the phrase "if you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all". Men who bitch about women online aren't your chew toys.
@Mexicoman101 I guess it's too bad that the saying "if you post something in a site like this thats based on shitty people giving their shitty opinions, expect the worst" also applies. And also... People who bitch about anything online are absolutely asking for shitposts. Especially when it comes to this never ending pissing contest between mgtow and feminists and who is more of a victim. IF op truly felt so victimized and wronged by society, then he absolutely should just join. But the question really is - is op really interested in a debate as to whether or not mgtow is really for him or is he just another kid looking for people to join him in gags weekly "women suck mgtow only" circlejerk? Because the reasons he has at ready gives the impression he's already found his stance. Anyways, there's plenty of people at the ready to console and uplift him, and women are already the literal devil, why should i pretend otherwise then?
You 'pretend' women aren't the devil because of the fact that if you do not it reinforces his built in persecution complex, which inherently relies on women being self centered or at least at ease with his various pet inequalities he believes favors them to men. If you give someone no debate, & never let them have nuance you could have interjected with, you reduce their chances of ever pulling themselves out of the cancerous holes of depression & identity politics they've come to identify with. My point being that you are less than just 'not helping'.
By the way, it is sociologically illiterate to say that bitching about things online-in an age where the internet is imperative for activism & even sparked the 'arab spring'- is automatically asking for shitposts. What kind of sociopathic thread on 4Chan did you learn about online dialogue from?
Because if you do, you'll forever know that you STILL did what a woman told you to do."
You are very funny. You tell me to join MGTOW but then doing so I did listen to you (who happens to be a woman). A very nice sabotaging play.
Anyway what exactly is your point in that aside from doing what you told me to do? It's not like I degrade or despise women or girls but more like your stance on this one.
Yes. Women have a lot of privileges in their life because of their gender as you pointed out. Men also have a lot of privileges in their life because of their gender. Men get paid more (even tho the wage gap exists primarily because of personal and individual choices, women still face more discrimination in workplace than men). Women are more likely to be raped and domestically assaulted. etc and etc. both genders have privileges. the western world doesn't have male or female supremacy.
Women do die in wars, it's worth pointing that out. They may not be on the front line with guns in their hands but in every war there are women killed. Civilians include women. Furthermore, many wars have involved mass rapes and brutalities against women.
That aside, if you want to go MGTOW then just do it. Nobody else really cares, that's the truth of the matter. There will be no mass uptake of the MGTOW movement. Some will go that way, the rest of us will carry on as we are.
MGTOW's are a waste of time, man. Some women are bitches. This will always be true & damage a mans life experience to some degrees. But a wiser man than me once said "the truth is, everyone is gonna make you suffer, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for".
You probably should. Here on GAG we can't see your tears so maybe if you found a MGTOW support group you could have a good cry and get positive affirmations from your new cuddle buddies.
I don't give I fuck I have no choice I have to have children for the sake of my parents wanting grandchildren and me wanting children and save my countries ethnicity.
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