Are there not still gentlemen's clubs out there? Some proprietors choose a certain type of clientele and that's their business - literally. Don't like it, don't go there. Like, it? Go there if you so choose. Simple.
This is about as ridiculous as adults complaining if they can't play on kiddie rides at establishments designed for children. Or minors who complain that they have no plans to drink, still aren't allowed in pubs. It's stupid. People make rules about who they do and don't want as clientele and it's usually understood. Ever since women make up women's hour or women's only places, men are going bananas over it, and I don't get it. Chrissakes there used to be a time when practically every public place was for men only but no one seems to talk about how that made women feel.
Don't like it, just don't go there. If she loses her business, then maybe she'll decide to venture in to something else to make a living if it fails. Until then, if it works and she and her clients enjoy a female-only-encouraged environment, big deal. If you hate women, that would be an ideal place not to go anyway, right?
i am a girl and my brother who is very dominate at all times thinks feminist is stupid, which i tend to agree. before people start yelling let me explain... there are many feminist who obviously want women to be equal to men, yet they still think guys should do all the gross and dirty work. And they still believe guys should be the one to call them first! if you believe in equality then you would know that guys are just as afraid to talk to us as we are to talk to them, so thats why if there is i guy i find attractive i will ask him to hang because if i want something i go for it. Another example is in the work force, i clean tables at my restaurant and do not get me wrong when its the end of the night and I'm tired i love when my male co workers take my bucket for me (literally they steal it from me b/c i don't want them to do my work) because its "too heavy", but for the most part i carry my heavy ass bucket on my own, and because i filled it, i carry it, thats my motto. Anyway my point is if your going to be a feminist be a fucking feminist don't half do that shit.
feminism is about equality, RADICAL feminism is about dominance and control. Should you judge the entire Islam religion because of radical Islamic terrorists? no. That doesn't represent the movements goals or beliefs, it just gets more press coverage therefore you see it more. (note: I know that the way people treat feminists is not on the same level as people treat Islamic people, it was just the best comparison I could think of
This is where I say I dotn care what she does... a smart person would open up a competing vegan café right down the street that attackes her directly...
vegan for everyone, we treat all of our customers with the respect they deserve... and then watch voluntary gender tax lady go out of business
u Charging men more than women for the same products and services is called sexual discrimination. Reverse sexism is still sexism, but I guess these women think that their sexism is justified. How unique! Someone thinks their inappropriate behavior is justified. Slave owners also had a "justification" for their behavior.
If any public facility charged women an 18% surcharge because of their sex, these "women" would undoubtedly protest OR simply burn the place to the ground.
The cure for bad behavior in the past is not different bad behavior in the present.
I could defeat them easily
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*Walk into cafe*
They ask me to pay the 'man' tax
I get triggered "did you just assume my gender?"
Waiter BTFO
They give me free food but I still cause a scene
I would definitely win
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When will these feminists learn? Just because you look like a man, talk like a man and you are biologically a man doesn't mean that you are a man. it's 2017
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i'm a feminist but obviously it isn't equality to charge different rates for food and service based on sex.
but as usual in these cases any deeper look at this reveals that the cafe REQUESTS that men pay extra but are not required to pay extra. it would be illegal to charge different rates.
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as an aside i don't know much about the existence or lack of a wage gap in Australia where this cafe is
That's cleary an attempt to provoke people and you fell for the provocation.
But it's okay. Nobody wants to eat vegan food anyway. That's like a Scientology café selling the canned poop of L. Ron Hubbard and demanding an 18% non-scientologist tax for it. Good luck with that on the free market.
It's hypocrisy and misandry. Now, if the roles were reversed the cafe be receiving backlash abs would be all over the news.
That's because that tax is usually charged on female products. For example shampoo for women is always more expensive than the one for men. So they wanna show men how it feels for women. This tax should be split equally but it always goes on female stuff.
Yeah I'm a woman and I would definitely try to turn her business in for favoritism of women and sexism against men. I wonder what these feminist would say if a men made a cafe that charged women more based off their looks/weight? They be crying like bunch harpooned whales (not a weight joke, animals really do cry when in pain). If any of these feminist walked into a man's cafe that didn't look like this:
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Would get charged just as much or even more for not reaching the required looked and cannot get upset or offended by it sense they clearly have a cafe that discriminates against anyone who isn't female. Just a bunch of brainless women.
What?
So one individual place with one individual owner is now a poster place for ALL feminists?
Since when?
I've never heard about this... but everyone can do what they want in their own personal legal business... And obviously it's legal if they haven't been sanctioned or closed...
Just like cake bakeries can literally refuse service to gay couples getting married. And this is far less extremist than this.
They could've just refused service all together...
to people following @BellePepper, she seems to be using me as some of her argument which i'm against as she has blocked me so i can't reply in self defence:
I wasn't shouting discrimination at all! i was saying men pay more for fitness equipment because its supply and demand! i was stating the opposite of discrimintaion? you really need to stop talking before you make yourself look even worse. and stop crying about namecalling, no one is calling you any offensive names, no matter if you do report my comment for calling you that "femi****" word (i didn't use it so you can't report it and get it removed again). Also i couldnt provide links at the time because it seems you blocked me because i posted 2 comments in a row so i couldnt reply to you!
This is Affirmative Action, taken to the Nth degree. "Because there is a pay disparity (read oppression) somewhere that affects some people somehow, we made a cafe that counters it by doing the exact opposite to balance the scale".
This entire business strategy is agenda-driven in the absolute worst way possible and will come to be known as the poster child for "This is why feminism is cancer". I mean, if/when her business goes under, who is she going to blame the failure on: men for not being more subordinate than they already are or women for "not knowing better". Because it will be a hot day in the 9th circle of Hell when this radfem realizes she is her own worst enemy and gains some self-awareness.
So let me get this straight: after men are charged an 18% tax because in 2016 women earned less than men (because they worked fewer hours), women still have "priority seating"? Sounds like feminazis doing what they do best.
Feminazis have ruined the reputation and idea of feminism. Tbh, the first thing I think of when someone calls themselves a feminist is a feminazi and feel embarrassed for them. The real feminists should just call themselves equalists.
What a twat she is. Lol.
Going into a vegan restaurant was his first mistake... so that 18% is just him paying for it.
What if the dude self-identifies as a female, does he still have to pay?
Feminism IS about equality, just some people change its original purpose to serve their wishes and beliefs. What's shown on the picture is not feminism, but it's said the place is for women, just like gentleman clubs are for men. Still I don't think it's a reason to charge men more.
We feminists call people like her a lier because if she was truly a feminist she wouldn't charge extra for men... I hope this post opens some womens eyes and make them understand that men also have it rough in this world. Yes sure women have periods, have to bare children, sometimes get raped and cat calling but if a woman ever claims a man raped her even though he didn't his life is 100% over because no one wants to hire or date a possible rapist. Think of feminism like star wars... there's a light and dark side and this woman is on the dark side while people that want equality like me are on the light side. To any future feminists please don't join the dark side... Sure they have fresh cookies but we the light side feminist have delicious brownies handmade by me everyday so join the light side of feminism!! :D
Now you know what it's like to be a woman.
That feeling of unfairness and "how can this be?" that's what women feel like all the time. Does it feel good?
I hate people who hide behind the word feminist just so they can discriminate
It used to be. Now, many are rabid man-haters. It started as a movement for women to achieve equality to a man, but they kept trying to tip the scales past the balance point.
I watched a television news report about this cafe.
The owner was an obvious Feminist loon.
I would not be surprised if she had a Gender Studies degree, from a nest of Communists such as Monash University, or La Trobe University, both of which are in Melbourne.
The women who were interviewed, who were presented in a way that inferred that they were patrons who were selected randomly, were obviously waitresses and did not have two IQ points to rub together.
The only men who would enter that establishment would be skinny-pant-wearing manginas, who were card-carrying social justice warriors.
From the point of view of a man, this cafe is a wonderful idea because (a) it is more evidence that Feminists are insane and that their position is at odds with the facts; and (b) if the Feminists can be concentrated in that cafe men in the vicinity can go somewhere else and be less likely to have the local versions of Big Red and the Hogbeast in their faces.
If it is a violation of the law, then the ACLU should file a lawsuit,, otherwise there is nothing else you can do other than go somewhere else.
The business owner may end up doing 18% less volume than she could if she didn't put on that tax, as I'm sure a lot of men will avoid that place.
Maybe a guy trying to make their girlfriend happy or seeing if he can pick up a couple of lonely girls, then the 18% tax would be worth it.
I understand the point she is trying to make, but I don't think it's any way to run a business, I may not like some of the customers that come into the store I work in, but I at least treat them all fairly. Equality does not come from putting others down but instead by bringing others up.
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