Agree to an extent. There are also those who feel guilty about their own past like Harvy Winstien and those who were bullied by men like Paul Fieg or those who were in company of bad men like Joe Biden. The common thing is they all generalize about 50 percent of the world's population as being as bad as they are or their bullies were and putting the other half on a pedestal who can't do any wrong.
Disagree. I’m sure some are, but not most. My guy friends are all real feminists.
They always argue with women who aren’t feminists, which cannot possibly mean he is trying to please women. That’s just an opinion. I’m sure some do, though.
Its different to call yourself a feminist today as opposed to days years in the past.
I think we all agree that women should be equal to men, and as we've seen women have both become equal on many footings and surpassed men in others. We can also agree that anyone who thinks women should not be equal to men are idiots.
however, i'm not going to label myself a feminist just because women have attained equality, because now the feminist movement aims to radical extremes far different from past ambitions. i don't agree with a lot of the bs that happens in the movement nowadays and so therefore i will not associate myself with the movement in name or in practice.
While there are men who call themselves feminist to get laid, "not all men"! I have seen many guys who are supportive of feminism and actually practice what they preach!
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Guys who just advocate for equal rights and don't go around trying to make sure everyone knows they're a feminist or a good guy are probably the guys that actually care. They are busy doing the right thing that they don't have the time to make sure everyone thinks they're awesome.
@TheHelleri I hate guys who go on and on about egalitarians as well. They're like people who go around telling everyone they're vegan only the egalitarians are a million times more annoying about it. They also spend 100% of their time telling everyone how it's egalitarianism and they spend 0% of their time actually trying to create equality.
Any one who drolls on about their ideology/lifestyle is annoying. That's for granted. But it's a simple point of fact here. Equivocation and semantics aside. Feminism advocates for women's rights; Egalitarians advocate for equal rights.
@TheHelleri And why do you care so much which label people use? The fact that you even felt compelled to bring it up means it matters that much what label a person uses. But why?
I never said that it didn't matter what label is used. That it does is exactly why I made the distinction. You're arguing against a point I never made.
Okay? It looks like your trying to juxtapose my statements to show an inconsistency. But there isn't any. I never said labels didn't matter. You acted as if though that was something I was saying. Ergo you were arguing a point I never made.
I disagree they chose that path. Even though we women have freedom now. The modern feminist are bad. Cuz they don’t believe in equality. Modern feminist believe of female superiority. Which is wrong. They also put chivalry men down. Unlike feminist I love chivalry men.
Yes, see i see it as a form of manipulation as well, not to say they're ALL that way but from my own experiences i feel like they said it to me because they thought id want to hear that, i really didn't though lol
I have to disagree. I was a feminist up until I was 22, but I was more the indoctrinated feminist type. I was feminist, just because that's what I had always heard was right, and I was quite liberal.
But, I wasn't a feminist just to identify with women. I was a feminist, because I thought it was the right thing to be.
I disagree. In my opinion, every person who does activism has important psychological problems. Every way of activism is fighting for more privileges just for having some feature, like the gender. So, this kind of males think that all females are loyal people, so I think they are disrespectful just for their psychological problems that make them think that feminism is OK. If they had any other psychological problems maybe they will be so disrespectful, despite they aren't feminist.
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Some of them might be like that, just like the "nice guys", but most certainly not all of them, most male feminists actually support women's rights and equality of genders, I know I do.
@ajijjj The meaning never changes, but people who control it did change, and they are definitely not feminists. Lets be honest, if they don't follow the main principle of feminism, they have no right to call themselves feminists.
Ya i agree but it seems like the "extreme" ones are getting all media attention, and are being praised and people still support them. So thats why i assume supporters of the movement must support the ones that are advertised all over the media.
They’re feminists because most of them are spineless losers who actually listened to the media when they are told they are responsible for all the world’s problems.
May be the case in some instances, but that would mean that female anti-feminists are just looking for male attention, if that were completely true. So I don't buy into either theory, it's pure ad-hominem.
Male Feminists looked once at the dictionary definition of Feminism and said, I believe in that. Then ignored the actions and believes of most Feminists today. Those guys will have to wait 100 years before Feminists help men in any way.
Feminism isn't equality it's female equality very different. Some Feminists are blind to the fact men don't have equal rights in a lot of areas.
Part of the problem is the definition of feminist these days. I'm all for equal pay for equal jobs, equal opportunity to get them and advance based on abilities, etc.
I disagree and agree I think a lot of men by definition are feminists to one degree or another. I think most radical male feminists are trying to get laid.
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Hmm I think some of them if not the majority is probably like that.
I think the other portion of guys are probably just brainwashed into feeling ashamed of being a white man, or just a man.
All this nonsense about white privilege and male privilege I feel is pretty absurd.
Agree to an extent. There are also those who feel guilty about their own past like Harvy Winstien and those who were bullied by men like Paul Fieg or those who were in company of bad men like Joe Biden. The common thing is they all generalize about 50 percent of the world's population as being as bad as they are or their bullies were and putting the other half on a pedestal who can't do any wrong.
Disagree. I’m sure some are, but not most. My guy friends are all real feminists.
They always argue with women who aren’t feminists, which cannot possibly mean he is trying to please women. That’s just an opinion. I’m sure some do, though.
I am a feminist because it is logical to be so; that is all.
Is that why you have a womans hand with a tiny man inside?
No. The image is fetish-related.
oh what is the fetish?
He’s into femdom. Likes women telling him what to do, think and feel.
@Exterminatore No, not at all.
Its different to call yourself a feminist today as opposed to days years in the past.
I think we all agree that women should be equal to men, and as we've seen women have both become equal on many footings and surpassed men in others. We can also agree that anyone who thinks women should not be equal to men are idiots.
however, i'm not going to label myself a feminist just because women have attained equality, because now the feminist movement aims to radical extremes far different from past ambitions. i don't agree with a lot of the bs that happens in the movement nowadays and so therefore i will not associate myself with the movement in name or in practice.
While there are men who call themselves feminist to get laid, "not all men"! I have seen many guys who are supportive of feminism and actually practice what they preach!
Guys who just advocate for equal rights and don't go around trying to make sure everyone knows they're a feminist or a good guy are probably the guys that actually care. They are busy doing the right thing that they don't have the time to make sure everyone thinks they're awesome.
Those are called egalitarians; Not feminists.
@TheHelleri I hate guys who go on and on about egalitarians as well. They're like people who go around telling everyone they're vegan only the egalitarians are a million times more annoying about it. They also spend 100% of their time telling everyone how it's egalitarianism and they spend 0% of their time actually trying to create equality.
Any one who drolls on about their ideology/lifestyle is annoying. That's for granted. But it's a simple point of fact here. Equivocation and semantics aside. Feminism advocates for women's rights; Egalitarians advocate for equal rights.
@TheHelleri And why do you care so much which label people use? The fact that you even felt compelled to bring it up means it matters that much what label a person uses. But why?
I never said that it didn't matter what label is used. That it does is exactly why I made the distinction. You're arguing against a point I never made.
@TheHelleri "I never said that it didn't matter what label is used."
"You're arguing against a point I never made."
Okay? It looks like your trying to juxtapose my statements to show an inconsistency. But there isn't any. I never said labels didn't matter. You acted as if though that was something I was saying. Ergo you were arguing a point I never made.
@TheHelleri It's something that I'm saying you dingleberry.
What exactly? Elaborate on "it's".
@TheHelleri That your worthless label is just that. Worthless it doesn't matter.
And how would you substantiate that claim?
Nah, Im a feminist as I do believe in equality of opportunity for all regardless of gender.
Though Im not big on the sjw types who hijacked most of the public attention on the subject. They tend to be short sighted and radical.
I disagree they chose that path. Even though we women have freedom now. The modern feminist are bad. Cuz they don’t believe in equality. Modern feminist believe of female superiority. Which is wrong. They also put chivalry men down. Unlike feminist I love chivalry men.
Male feminists are the fox in the hen house under disguise. It's highly manipulative.
Yes, see i see it as a form of manipulation as well, not to say they're ALL that way
but from my own experiences i feel like they said it to me because they thought id want to hear that, i really didn't though lol
It's pretty creepy to be honest.
I have to disagree. I was a feminist up until I was 22, but I was more the indoctrinated feminist type. I was feminist, just because that's what I had always heard was right, and I was quite liberal.
But, I wasn't a feminist just to identify with women. I was a feminist, because I thought it was the right thing to be.
I disagree. In my opinion, every person who does activism has important psychological problems. Every way of activism is fighting for more privileges just for having some feature, like the gender. So, this kind of males think that all females are loyal people, so I think they are disrespectful just for their psychological problems that make them think that feminism is OK. If they had any other psychological problems maybe they will be so disrespectful, despite they aren't feminist.
Some of them might be like that, just like the "nice guys", but most certainly not all of them, most male feminists actually support women's rights and equality of genders, I know I do.
Were not talking about equality though.. The question was about feminism..
@ajijjj Feminism is about equality, don't confuse it with femi-nazism.
@ajijjj The meaning never changes, but people who control it did change, and they are definitely not feminists. Lets be honest, if they don't follow the main principle of feminism, they have no right to call themselves feminists.
Ya i agree but it seems like the "extreme" ones are getting all media attention, and are being praised and people still support them. So thats why i assume supporters of the movement must support the ones that are advertised all over the media.
@ajijjj Media always ruin everything, they influence people in a very bad way, I think we agree on that.
Ya they really do.
They’re feminists because most of them are spineless losers who actually listened to the media when they are told they are responsible for all the world’s problems.
Look up “soyboy” it’ll all make sense
May be the case in some instances, but that would mean that female anti-feminists are just looking for male attention, if that were completely true. So I don't buy into either theory, it's pure ad-hominem.
Male Feminists looked once at the dictionary definition of Feminism and said, I believe in that. Then ignored the actions and believes of most Feminists today.
Those guys will have to wait 100 years before Feminists help men in any way.
Feminism isn't equality it's female equality very different.
Some Feminists are blind to the fact men don't have equal rights in a lot of areas.
In a lot of cases, but not every case. I have a sincerity radar.
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Nope, I'm a feminist because I support women and want them to succeed!!
Part of the problem is the definition of feminist these days. I'm all for equal pay for equal jobs, equal opportunity to get them and advance based on abilities, etc.
I disagree and agree I think a lot of men by definition are feminists to one degree or another. I think most radical male feminists are trying to get laid.