Agree or Disagree, male Feminists are only Feminists because they think thats what women want to hear?

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BlueCoyote · Accepted Answer

I disagree. I call myself a feminist and I'd prefer not being negatively stereotyped like that.

I don't do it because I think "that's what women want to hear". I do it because my values stemming from secular humanism and democratic socialism have led me to support feminism. Just like I support the gay rights movement despite the fact that I don't know any gay people or the fact that I want refugees to be treated with decency and respect despite the fact that I don't know any refugees personally. I just believe it is the right to believe in.

Cosytoasty · Accepted Answer

I disagree, I’m a feminist but I don’t do it to get girls to sleep with me.

lumos · Accepted Answer

My boyfriend is a feminist and one of the most loving, respectful and intelligent people I know. So there are a few gems out there. But yes, on the other hand there are also a lot of guys out there who say it either without understanding what it means (and therefore also holding some pretty sexist views "unknowingly"), or they say it because they think it'll get them into a girl's pants.

claratanry · Accepted Answer

there are bound to be some men who say they are feminists because they have a false idea of feminism or are trying to "fit in" or whatever, but at the same time there are plenty other men who truly believe in it and actively fight for equal rights for women.

JimRSmith · Answer

Agree in every way, shape and form.  They're white knights, who understand as much about women, as they would about being Viceroy of India.  Awful, awful people.

Nick_McKilian · Answer

I agree to an extent. While feminism is a very volatile word in today's culture, we must first establish that feminism must mean the equality of women and men. This does not mean that men get special privileges or are exempt from any responsibilities inherit with being a man, and this also holds true for women. Now to your question, there are men who approach the world with a "yes sir, yes ma'am" mentality. These types of people are the ones that generally will tell you how much of a "nice guy" (this mentality can also be applied to girls) they are, while actually only holding shallow values of others. They do this to try and appease the common sense of longing in people for the "perfect partner", while hiding the fact that their behavior is just a mirage projected by a disingenuous, shallow, and manipulative lust for a partner. On the other hand, there are guys who technically fall under the label of feminism (the one defined above), yet they often don't address themselves as that as it is a more or less common trait, which is why mysoginists (valuing women as lesser) and mysandrists (valuing men as lesser) are in the very small minority, and are insanely uncommon in today's society.

talltom94 · Answer

I disagree, I would call myself a feminist, because I agree in equality between the sexes. I have views that some women may not agree with and that doesn't bother me because my priority for my beliefs is equality, should a man be able to hit a woman? If it's in self-defence, Yes, if a woman gets pregnant, and she doesn't want to be a parent, but the man does, she has every right to get an abortion without the man's say being any factor in it, that I agree with. But I think if the woman wants to be a parent, but the man doesn't and he's been clear about that from the start of pregnancy, she shouldn't have the power to be able to force the man to be a parent or take responsibility for it by giving the woman money, a man shouldn't be able to force a woman to be a parent, but neither should a woman be able to force a man. That's how a man can be a feminist and doesn't think that it's what women want to hear, I know my views some women won't like, but if they are feminists in the true sense of the word (support equality) then they would have no problem with it.

Anonymous · Answer

I would say that a VERY large proportion of guys who claim to be feminists and the vast majority who participate in feminist events/rallies/protests/etc. are doing it because they think that's their best route into a girl's pants. Some of those guys are trying to get into the pants of a very particular girl and think that by mirroring her interests he increases his chances with her. Other guys aren't being so targeted, but have made the observation that there are a lot of girls and not too many guys at feminist events, and therefore like their odds. Many guys are doing this as a conscious calculation, but certainly some are doing this unconsciously and aren't really being honest with themselves as to why they're into "the cause." And as much as other guys like to mock the feminist dudes for this behavior, I actually think that for SOME guys it makes a lot of sense, because they DO get results this way. Personally though, I believe that for a lot of guys, this strategy is fraught with all kinds of issues and I wouldn't tend to advise it to your average guy.

What's been your specific experience with this type of guy? I'd love to hear about it for a girl's perspective.

Mexicoman101 · Answer

Well, to a degree. Many have turned out to be outright predators who use the visage of being this pro-woman feminist to disengage womens guard in kind of the similar way women do around gay men. However I think it's easy for certain men to read about the history of rhe 19th amendment, about Elisabeth Cady Stanton and the Seneca Falls convention, etc and it makes them invested in helping halt inequities that harm women disproportionately. There are honest male feminists, but I think the loudest ones are the ones you need to be specific about. Just like how preachers who are the most homophobic get caught doing gay things, just like how anti drug warriors like Rodrigo Duterte or Rush Limbaugh turn out to be drug addicts, etc.

Aguysopinion4799 · Answer

Just like @BlueCoyote I too am a feminist and you even follow me, I don't do it for impressing girls, I don't do it for anyone, I do it because I feel like having no superiority on either side just makes sense and if girls think we do it just to impress them then sorry but no.

You may have sadly come across some jerks who say that just to get with you but to further my point, I'm not even interested in relationships or sexual activities so what other possible reason could I have other than preventing superiority? :/

Also like Coyote, I too support the gay movement and treating refugees so I am not just focused on feminism T_T

Exterminatore · Answer

In part. They’ve taken thoroughly to the indoctrination they received. I think many are also closet homosexuals or are otherwise effeminate. I think for some it’s easier to be a slave and be told what to think, what to like, what to do. I think many guys that are feminists would prefer to be the woman, and since feminists really hate women and want to be men, it works well for the effeminate types because they basically get to have a female overlord to boss them around and make decisions for them.

Anonymous · Answer

I was a feminist and I am a feminist and I don't feel bad about it.
Why?
Bcoz some parts of our country are very conservative and the people over there need to understand female point of view.

I hate feminism in western countries though. It's feminazism.
Feminism cannot exist in western countries as women have the freedom that they should have.

Only "feminazism" can exist over there.

I am against excessive feminism.. when feminism is in excess, it's meaning changes and it gradually became something , may be , we can call it "feminazism"

I understand what feminism actually is and how much of it is actually needed.

Also I don't like excessive growth of feminism in some parts of my country. It's stupid and dangerous.

Soteris · Answer

Just because I am a feminist does not mean I have to be respectful, especially to people I do not think deserve it. If I wanted to get the approval of women I would learn how to play guitar or some other more practical skill rather than adopt an ideology with all its baggage.

Kenni · Answer

I hate nowadays feminists and but i hate the word itself even more. "Feminist " men know exactly what this term stands for, but they still stand by the name, whereas most feminists women couldn't be happier with the term as long as it expresses female empowerment.
I stand for male and female equality. In every fucking way. I'm not a feminist and I never will be.

jimyee · Answer

I disagree. I used to consider myself a feminist but with the current feminist movement I want to get away from it as far as possible. A true feminist is just for equal rights which I agree with and that has nothing to do with wanting to be accepted by women for having that belief. But again, the term feminist has been tainted and I want nothing to do with it.

GrayRonin · Answer

I think there is a difference between gender equality (old school feminism) and female gender supremacy (today's feminism). That being said I think that yes there's a large number of male "feminists" that are only in it to try to get laid/ accepted. I say accepted because masculinity seems to be evil in today's culture which (among other factors) is producing a generation of beta males.

LordSnuggles · Answer

What's the difference between egalitarianism and feminism? Also, male feminists are dopes. Particularly the ones that still believe in the wage gap or the patriarchy. Men and women riding a wave of a time long passed. Today's feminism is a shadow of what it used to be. You hear, "I'm a feminist" you know you're in for a shit ride because believe it or not, most people believe in equality, but few believe in feminism. And if you are a male feminist I suppose you gave your position at your job to a woman and if you don't, you give a woman 25% of your income to make it even, right. So dumb.

lizziepooh03 · Answer

I think almost every male I have met is a feminist because almost every male I have met has always thought that a woman has rights as much as a man has a rights.

Now, there has not been a lot of men that I have met that would call themselves feminists; I have found that most men that associate themselves with that movement are looking for approval from females. They figure this is there way in.

But I have not found them disrespectful or creepy; I have just found them insecure and a little desperate. lol!

alistee · Answer

there're guys who are true feminist but there's also a new wave kind of players who pretend to be, and when it gets to sex things start to go wrong...

e. g - i used to date someone who seemed to supported women rights and to understand what feminism stands for. i told him i have had hurt in the past and was into serious relationship, he seemed supportive at first and said he was also into relationship. but after a few times we had sex and things got serious, he started losing interests. so i was asking myself was it all fake? a true feminist who stands for women rights and be honest wouldn't, obviously, dates me and use me just for sex.

long story short;
some men use it cause they know it'd make women give in sex easily.

KingAra3 · Answer

Depends how you view feminism. Is it equality of genders like most people say, or is it a male privilege believing spiteful group? I'm sorry but what I have seen from feminism is about women breaking out of a so called male prison and in a very loud and anti male way, which I don't support. I think everyone is for gender equality but I don't think that's what a modern feminist is solely fighting for

fashionguy17 · Answer

Agree. Men like that are pussies. Women have more legal rights than men anyway. Seriously.

-Child support is almost always in favor of the woman.

-If a man and woman commit the same crime, the man will always get more time and a harsher punishment.

-Women can get into clubs and bars for free (ladies night), whereas men have to pay to get it in.

-Men are expected to pay for the first date, or they are horrible men.

-Men aren't really allowed to have standards when it comes to dating, where women can be as choosy as they want.

-They have foundations and drives for single moms and women who were abused, but they never talk about or help men who are struggling single dads or men who were abused.

It's a woman's world, and men that support feminism and that bullshit are just trying to get pussy. However, what they don't realize is that by agreeing with feminism, they just make themselves look like a bitch.

Anonymous · Answer

Guys who claim to be feminists just to get some "action" are not true feminists, they are liars, just like feminazis.
True feminist is for gender equality. Feminazi is for female supremacy.
As for the guys, not all of them are like that, lots of them are genuine feminists, but there are always some jerks who want to take advantage, just like some guys here on the GaG, who always want to pm girls (just so that they could send them a dick pic).
That's why I say: Stop the fake feminists... both forms of of them - Crazy women who are Feminazis and desperate men who are perverts.

GoodGuyBreakingBad · Answer

It's hard to say it could be true. I'm confused on this one?
Myself i believe Women should be treated as equal as Men
no matter what it is. In America there is more Women running
for Political office in 2018 and I support them 100 % to win it
for office. If a Woman wants to run for Sheriff of the County
that she is from, i believe she should be allowed to run for office
yes the list goes on.

AllThatSweetJazz · Answer

Some certainly are, but there's all sorts of reasons. I think most are just genuinely ignorant to the reality of feminism and will just say "Sure, I'm a feminist" without really having thought about it too hard or doing any activism or anything like that.

hellacray · Answer

Hmm I think some of them if not the majority is probably like that.

I think the other portion of guys are probably just brainwashed into feeling ashamed of being a white man, or just a man.

All this nonsense about white privilege and male privilege I feel is pretty absurd.

shephardjhon · Answer

Agree to an extent. There are also those who feel guilty about their own past like Harvy Winstien and those who were bullied by men like Paul Fieg or those who were in company of bad men like Joe Biden. The common thing is they all generalize about 50 percent of the world's population as being as bad as they are or their bullies were and putting the other half on a pedestal who can't do any wrong.

maiave · Answer

Disagree. I’m sure some are, but not most. My guy friends are all real feminists.

They always argue with women who aren’t feminists, which cannot possibly mean he is trying to please women. That’s just an opinion. I’m sure some do, though.

Anonymous · Answer

Its different to call yourself a feminist today as opposed to days years in the past.

I think we all agree that women should be equal to men, and as we've seen women have both become equal on many footings and surpassed men in others. We can also agree that anyone who thinks women should not be equal to men are idiots.

however, i'm not going to label myself a feminist just because women have attained equality, because now the feminist movement aims to radical extremes far different from past ambitions. i don't agree with a lot of the bs that happens in the movement nowadays and so therefore i will not associate myself with the movement in name or in practice.

abc3643 · Answer

I am a feminist because it is logical to be so; that is all.

CubsterShura · Answer

While there are men who call themselves feminist to get laid, "not all men"! I have seen many guys who are supportive of feminism and actually practice what they preach!

Anonymous · Answer

Guys who just advocate for equal rights and don't go around trying to make sure everyone knows they're a feminist or a good guy are probably the guys that actually care. They are busy doing the right thing that they don't have the time to make sure everyone thinks they're awesome.

MrKinktastic · Answer

Nah, Im a feminist as I do believe in equality of opportunity for all regardless of gender.

Though Im not big on the sjw types who hijacked most of the public attention on the subject. They tend to be short sighted and radical.

DollySummers · Answer

I disagree they chose that path. Even though we women have freedom now. The modern feminist are bad. Cuz they don’t believe in equality. Modern feminist believe of female superiority. Which is wrong. They also put chivalry men down. Unlike feminist I love chivalry men.

ChurchOfIron · Answer

I have to disagree. I was a feminist up until I was 22, but I was more the indoctrinated feminist type. I was feminist, just because that's what I had always heard was right, and I was quite liberal.

But, I wasn't a feminist just to identify with women. I was a feminist, because I thought it was the right thing to be.

ritxi · Answer

I disagree. In my opinion, every person who does activism has important psychological problems. Every way of activism is fighting for more privileges just for having some feature, like the gender. So, this kind of males think that all females are loyal people, so I think they are disrespectful just for their psychological problems that make them think that feminism is OK. If they had any other psychological problems maybe they will be so disrespectful, despite they aren't feminist.

FakeName123 · Answer

Male feminists are the fox in the hen house under disguise. It's highly manipulative.

A-man-22 · Answer

Male Feminists looked once at the dictionary definition of Feminism and said, I believe in that. Then ignored the actions and believes of most Feminists today.
Those guys will have to wait 100 years before Feminists help men in any way.

Feminism isn't equality it's female equality very different.
Some Feminists are blind to the fact men don't have equal rights in a lot of areas.

Anonymous · Answer

Some of them might be like that, just like the "nice guys", but most certainly not all of them, most male feminists actually support women's rights and equality of genders, I know I do.

Pftpftpft · Answer

They’re feminists because most of them are spineless losers who actually listened to the media when they are told they are responsible for all the world’s problems.

Look up “soyboy” it’ll all make sense

loveslongnails · Answer

Part of the problem is the definition of feminist these days. I'm all for equal pay for equal jobs, equal opportunity to get them and advance based on abilities, etc.

ericclayton · Answer

May be the case in some instances, but that would mean that female anti-feminists are just looking for male attention, if that were completely true. So I don't buy into either theory, it's pure ad-hominem.

ChronicThinker · Answer

In a lot of cases, but not every case. I have a sincerity radar.

Jjpayne · Answer

Nope, I'm a feminist because I support women and want them to succeed!!

DeaconPope · Answer

I disagree and agree I think a lot of men by definition are feminists to one degree or another. I think most radical male feminists are trying to get laid.

Northern_star · Answer

not neccesarily, they can simply be dumb a. f. as well 🙂 but the picture is amazing, now i can make a good demonstration using it for #mantittiesunderatomselleckmoustachmatters

Berethor · Answer

Generally yes, part of them are internet white knights and other part are manginas.

Ezra5808 · Answer

Honestly I'm for women's rights because I have three amazing sisters and I want all of them to have the same opportunities I've been given.

Anonymous · Answer

why would they wanna be feminist? feminist isn't what feminist used to be back in the days

InTimoreDei · Answer

Most male feminists adhere to that stance in order to get a girl, or hate themselves, or try to please everyone, and have no spine.

Jonny317 · Answer

I would say that there are certainly guys who say that they're feminists because it sounds good. If you're a guy who believes in feminist ideals, than you're a feminist. If you're a douche bag who says you're a feminist, or funny, or "nice," then you're a douchebag. It's your actions that prove your words.

anxiousvampire · Answer

That's a common stereotype. Anybody can identify as a feminist. Many men may identify as such in order to get close to and appear more attractive to women. Others subscribe to feminist theory or use the term as a simple way to describe, or at least indicate, their beliefs.

unkqty · Answer

anyone who identifies with the term or "movement" is a pathetic loser. get a life, fcs!!

anmari2001 · Answer

I don't know, never met one but I guess there might be somw fake guys who "think" this way only to be liked
I don't really count them feminists because they do it only to get liked, they are not doing it for the cause

FatherJack · Answer

They seek female approval , yet the feminists will still despise them , they are still " The Enemy " to a feminist , as they are male.

Ayer93 · Answer

I've always believed that a large population of the male feminists had those intentions. I'm glad this was brought up.

JackJPershing · Answer

Seriously a guy who does this is doing so hoping that he can manipulate a lady into touching his tool.

Nadim171 · Answer

Male feminists are feminists because they're a bunch of fat communist hippies that can't find a job

ajijjj · Answer

Im not trying to speak for them all, but yes. There are guys out there that are probably claiming to be feminists because they think thats what women want to hear, which leads them to think they're going to get all the girls in the world.

Anonymous · Answer

True when it is the feminist movement not the social mind set of we both should be treated fairly. #cunthats

Anonymous · Answer

... Why can't everyone just stop labeling each other and themselves and just be happy with what we have? ... Actually I got a better idea. Let's get everyone in the world to line up in a huge circle, and on an agreed signal, pop a magnum shot in the person to the right's head.

ShortCircuit · Answer

All male feminists suffer from internalized misandry.

Chaz269 · Answer

Some are, some ain't. Doesn't matter because none are relevant anywhere but the voting booths. Male feminists are more likely to extinguish themselves than influence positive and meaningful changes in their lifetime.

Tron5678 · Answer

Nah, more like mixed bred of white knights and feminist hoping to get some action lol

weasley8 · Answer

My dad became a feminist when I started experiencing sexism at school. My mother hates it. And I was too young to even understand what it meant. So I disagree.

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