Yesterday i got into a debate with someone who for all intents and purposes argued against such an idea claiming that women were too biologically weak, now i'm no fool i know full well the biological differences between men and women. However in his eyes, the gap between men and women were so insurmountable that women shouldn't even bother trying. He would then throw arm grip studies and basically his argument was Testosterone=Strength, Estrogen=Weakness. Both genders should just stick to their proper roles
See here's my issue with this, if what he is saying is true then yes, men are biologically superior to women in terms of strength and combat ability. But it's also a double edged sword. It also means that men are more disposable then women and capable of being replaced due to the fact that women can give birth and men cannot. If this is true then men are expected to fight and if need be die to ensure a woman's safety, it would normalize the mentality that a woman is free to leave a man to die in order to save herself, because that's what he's suppose to do.
If my asking around was suppose to make me accept that men and women can never be true equals it failed, in reality all it's done is make me more pro-gun. So here's the long and short of it, if what these people say is true and biology truly cannot be overcome.
"Women are weaker, but men are expendable" do you agree that this is true?
Personally a world where this mindset is the norm, isn't a world I want to live in. I understand this is a rather loaded question but there's no way to sugarcoat it.
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Wholly incorrect sir. On almost all counts. First of all, not bother genders can perform the same roles. Biology. Secondly, to perform in, say, the U. S. Army infantry, there are physical requirements. Requirements that are near impossible for a woman to meet physically and mentally. (Women are not stupid, not what I'm saying.) Women have met the standards before, however. Unfortunately, they are only able to hold to combat shape for a few years, and it does irreparable damage to their bodies as a result. Women require a higher fat percentage on their bodies to be healthy. Fat however prevents combat. So when your choices are brief service, followed by permanent damage, and living a healthy happy life, I can certainly see why someone would argue as he did. And men, expendable? Please. That's the second most nonsensical thing I've heard all day.
This is why I feel that we should copy the Russians and make an all female sniper corp
It can work, but I would like to point out that Russia's military is comparatively poor.
we can do it better!
What a naive and small-minded way to think. "We can do it better!" Is the kind of stupid logical conclusion that guides communists and socialists. Has anyone ever told you the definition of insanity?
No i mean we literally have more then enough money and a high enough military budget to do so and make it effective.
Really? We have the budget to simply alter the genetic coding of fully grown adults, and then reorganize an entire field of combat, as well as reevaluating psych tests, living quarters, food needs, and standard equipment changes? And those are just the tip of the iceberg.
Sigh... you really underestimate what a female is capable of... is this the toxic masculinity i keep hearing so much about?
No, these are the facts and science people like you fear so much. I love women, and I view them as equal to men. But I am honest enough and objective enough to say that there are things women can't do. There are things men can't do. That's life, kiddo. Sometimes you don't get what you want. And by the way, toxic masculinity is a joke, it doesn't exist except in the mind of batshit crazy feminists.
Ok so long story short men=strong, women=weak. Men are superior and women should bow before us. I'm glad we could get that sorted out
No, again you are completely wrong. Read what I said. If you're having trouble getting your reading glasses around your overinflated head, I'll try to explain in a way a child could understand. Men and women are both good. Men and women are both equals. Men and women are different, in body and brain. Some things women are good at, some things men are good at, some things both are good at. Some things, men can't do. Some things, women can't do. But, we still love people, and thrive despite our shortcomings.
Do you understand now? Or do I have to kick it down to a kindergarten level?
And whether you believe it or not that very mindset is exactly what perpetuates that culture of victimhood and weakness.
Constantly telling people that they are inferior in a way that can't be overcome is exactly why we got so many women manipulating the system to get what they want. Hate to break to you, but people like you are part of the problem
How is stating facts and truth promoting victimhood? If I, for example said that men were better than women, that would apply. But biological facts are not part of the problem. Being truthful doesn't make you, "part of the problem" as so many small minded people, such as yourself, would like to be true. It just makes you naive. And unfortunately, tragically stupid. Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy it while you have it, my friend.
Fine keep telling women that they can't compare to men and then you can start scratching your head wondering how you got hit with false sexual assault charges just because a woman didn't like you
Honestly the fact that you keep shoving "imperial data" in my face tells me that being right is the only thing you care about.
Failing to realize that if what you are saying is true, that the one who gets the short end of the stick is you.
Again, never said men were better than women. You need to stop throwing that out there, because it's wrong and you know it. Calling someone a sexist is probably the only way you ever win arguments, but it just isn't true. Second, being right is the most important thing. Doing what is right is always the best thing to do. Truth is truth, and facts don't care about your feelings. If you decide you don't like it when someone debates with facts and data, then you are in way over your head. Welcome to real debate. Facts are our currency, and truth is the goal.
Ok then tell me why should I have any respect for women if they are so inferior to me?
They are not inferior. I have no doubt the majority of women on the planet are smarter than you. Being more biologically capable or less biologically capable at certain things is no indicator of where our morality should be.
And now you resort to base insults. How pathetic, whether you like it or not thinking about things your way basically women get to play life on easy mode because no one expect anything out of them meaning they can get away with things that men couldn't even dream of.
I have not once insulted you this whole time and you have so as far as I'm concerned I've won this argument.
And that's exactly why I've said most women on the planet are smarter than you. Whether you believe it or not, I actually wasn't insulting you, I was making an observation. As for you winning anything? Please. Read and review. You've done nothing but ask questions that I then answer, misunderstand, and make blanket statements of anger. Also, contrary to your statement, you did insult me. I'm just not a whiny little bitch about it.
(There, now THAT'S an insult by me. Feel free to cry about it and claim you've won the argument to protect your own ego, and fragile mindset.)
Well what can I say I'm black of course I'm not as smart as you
You're race defined absolutely nothing about your personality, or your intellectual abilities. That's all on you.
Sure white boy sure now if you'll excuse me I gotta go sign up for the military and vollenteer to dig up landmines lord knows that's all an unintelligent loser like me is good for
Wow. Racism. I thought that, while unintelligent, you were a reasonably decent person. But racist comments? That's low, even you must admit.
By the way, it's spelled "Volunteer."
Eh it doesn't matter I'll be dead in 5 years and then one less waste of air to worry about right?
If you die, it will be of your own volition. If you are a waste of air, it is of your own volition. You choose who you are, and what you contribute to society.
Oh look who's acting all high and mighty after spending half of our conversation calling me an unintelligent idiot
You are an unintelligent idiot. And it is completely by choice. You can make a better, albeit more difficult, choice if you want. You don't have to be unintelligent. It's up to you. Don't feel salty because I called it out.
Great so I'm guessing I can start being intelligent by agreeing with you on all aspects right?
Of course not. Letting anyone tell you what you believe is stupid. Detach your emotional and instinctive responses to different situations and too different questions. Look for the objective facts, and combine those with what you believe morally. Maybe you'll agree with me, maybe not.