Joseph Stalin: "It's no the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." Agree or disagree?

[Toad-1]

I agree

I disagree

it depends (explain)

[ATuairiscean]

Florida can never have a straight forward election. Totals will change according to court battles - 2000 the vote change by about 350 I expect same again, I am not sure but I think it is just posturing for 2020 especially with amendment 4 coming in - It gets the bases fired up and since 2016, vote getting has changed, its gat bases out.
Your question okay there are probably some "Strange" voter irregularities and suppression going on but I wonder what numbers are to see extent of problem - Neither side seems to say any numbers which makes me think that they are not that high so there is probably stuff there on both sides but they would be a thousand times less than other less democratic votes around the world.
Just one little thing why so many ballots on the one day, the most I ever voted on in one day (in Ireland) is 3 and I was given 3 separate pages so I couldn't get confused - We do paper ballots, we never took to machines

[tartaarsaus]

Only when you assume there are not enough safeguards against rigging elections.

If there are, it becomes infinitely harder to rig elections. Consequently, actual votes are what's important.

So yes, in Cuba where that guy recently took over the record of Assad with like 99.82% of the votes is probably rigged. I doubt there is a fair democratic process with international observers and entities, along with domestic ones, that are observing the process. But in more developed nations, like the Netherlands, it does actually matter in votes. In spite of foreigners saying that Ameland had over 100% votes, there was no rigging there.

[bubble_tea]

Maybe in some countries it's true, but over here it's impossible to fake count votes, but it's apparently relatively easy to fake vote.

[MasterKey18]

Today in this society, I have little trust left in this saying.

[MasterKey18]

Thanks heaps!!

[SirRexington]

Well, as we see here in the US it doesn't matter how many vote, the people with power can choose whoever they want through many means such as rigging elections, voting regulations and suppression, and people who meddle with the results. Then of course there is electing both Bush and Trump whom the people did not agree to.

So yeah, Joseph Stalin is somewhat right about something. But fuck him for perverting Marx's vision.

[ThisDudeHere]

The people dis agree to Trump though.

[SirRexington]

@ThisDudeHere did he win the popular vote? No, no he did not. Does he have a high approval rating? No, no he does not.

[ThisDudeHere]

He has for everyone right of Center.

[SirRexington]

@ThisDudeHere that's not true. Plenty of time right wing people don't like him. Just like not all left wing people like Bernie.

And, we didn't just ask right wing people. We asked the whole country.

[TadCurious]

That's definitely the philosophy of the Democrat election officials in Broward and Palm Beach counties in south Florida.

[Mexicoman101]

I think it heavily depends because some people really try to be unbiased and objective, while others are content to slip in their own bias.

[anmari2001]

True
There is another genius quote
"No people, no problems "

[Frankenstein99]

In a corrupt system i'd agree so i can understand why he'd say that.

[Johnnie1000]

Great line and Stalin was the one to know if he ever allowed elections.

[WhitePanther88]

When you can only vote for one candidate voter I'd is not a problem

[llorando]

Totally agree, what he said was very true for the 2016 Democratic Primary, so many votes either not counted or given to Killary.

[LegateLanius]

When you kill millions of your own people it really changes your perspective on the value of life.

[QueenofCups]

You need both to win as a politician.

[samoht89]

coming from a dictator...

[MarketData]

Stalin would know. He always got 100% of the vote.