The flag don't represent the whole country and only represent the Southern states. Originally it wasn't racist or pro-slavery. How symbols and flags are used to represent a province or municipality, the Southern flag was supposed to represent some of the states. It's nothing wrong with that.
But some people who supported the pro-slavery and anti-black ideologies choose to use it in their campaigns, therefor it's associated with oppression. It doesn't mean it was intended to be it and people wants to get rid of the meaning. I wouldn't like if people used my province's flag to discriminate others and no one could force me or anyone else to quit using it just because someone else tried to ruin it. I'm not a Southern, but do have provincial and municipality flags.
Being a proud south-American is no different than being a proud West-Norwegian or South-Italian for instance. Not everyone from the same province are racist or mean.
Flags, like other things in communication, are meaningless symbols. It's the meaning attached to them by the viewer that gives them meaning.
For example, the swastika is seen as a symbol of hate in the West because of Hitler and this experience has been associated with the symbol.
In the East, it's a symbol of good luck associated with Ganesh (Hindu god of luck) and Buddha.
The symbols may be identical (or mirrored), but many (except Hindus and Buddhists) generally don't recognize the flipping, but the ideas attached will still be attached, merited or not.
The same seems to be the case for the "Confederate flag" in that Southerners who love the flag attach a wholly different set of ideas to it, than do other Americans (and others with no affinity to it).
I fly and am very proud to fly the Confederate flag because it shows my southern pride. I do not support slavery nor have I ever. And slavery was not just blacks. It was also Irish and Scottish as well and in some cases they were treated a hell of a lot worse. I believe slavery us terrible and was terrible, but I fly the flag loud and proud because it shows my southern heritage and love for my home. And I get my panties in a bunch when a football player kneels for the National Anthem because that is unbelievably disrespectful. You stand with your hand over your heart for the men and women who fought and died for our country. If he wants to protest how terribly blacks are being treated then he can go stand on a sidewalk with a sign. He gets paid to go out and play football, not protest. You kneel at the cross to show respect towards God, you stand for the Flag to show respect towards the people who are fighting for us.
m it does not represent pro-slavery ideals, we have been told that's what it represents, but it doesn't. The Civil War was not about slavery, Lincoln said if slavery would keep the Union together, he would be for it, and if ending slavery would keep the Union together, he would be for that.
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it's a great question right? why do we recognize in anyway a treasonous group that rose up against the United States. they lost the war in their failed attempt to secede. they and the flag they rallied around should be nothing but a picture and a chapter in history books
because the people who fly it don't think it stands for those things.
Well first you need to clarify, what americans? Its not an American thing, its a southern thing. Second that flag was never actually used by confederates (a similar design was proposed but that one was never actually used). The reason why they use the "confederate" flag is as a sign of solidarity of the south as during the civil war in order to beat the south the union troops fought with "total warfare" in short General Sherman among others would rip up rail roads as they passed and capture and destroy towns in order to prevent them from providing resources and troops to the confederates. This caused catastrophic economic damage to the south. When the war ended cotton was less profitable as well as during the war production ceased and European nations had found other sources of it so the south has honestly only recently started bouncing back from the civil war. They felt that they where abandoned after the war and as such they started to rally themselves around the what is now known as the "confederate" flag (again, despite the confederates never actually using it) in order to show solidarity with their fellow southerners in such hard times which then morphed into a sign of southern pride in and of itself. So it never represented slavery or treason to begin with but people who don't know their history make that assumption.
Its just the south that does that. I think its motivated by racism in large part but now the confederate battle flag is like a general symbol of rebellion in some regions. Its also that some people don’t want to believe that their ancestors died for nothing, or they are mad about their family and property being burned during things like Shermans incursion. I know someone from the south who takes the atrocities to heart, so that’s probably a factor in it.
I don’t consider it patriotic, I think its at worst treasonous in sentiment and at best just another symbol of a conformist super organism.
The American flag has stood for institutions that are every bit as murderous and indeed worse than anything practiced under the so called "Confederate flag". Hence the people flying this Confederate flag are actually BETTER people than the ones flying the American Flag.
It was never officially the Confederate Flag.. So I have no Idea of what you speak of. This picture is of the real amd last officual confederate flag put into use 2 weeks before they capitulated.
Conflation of "some Southern Americans" with "Americans" in general, and the poorly veiled, erroneous assumption that all or most of the people who oppose kneeling during the anthem honor the final Confederate Flag? I suppose I should stop expecting logic on this site.
1. It has never represented that
2. Only the southern states that originally raised it, honor it, not America as a whole
I’m an American and I’m as red conservative as they come but I’ve never agreed with allowing a failed regimes flag to fly anywhere. We remember Nazis in history books not by keeping their monuments and flags flying
Because they're inbred morons who claim it's part of their history and tradition. Trust me, most of us hate that shit and think the dirty south should be forced to be done with that shit.
There's a very small amount of Americans that honor that flag and most of them are in the south, which is the worst area of America.
i mean look at alabama and mississippi's flags. THEY HAVE THE FLAG IN THEM
The trader depends on who you asked
I do not honor the confederate flag
The South Lost the War and commit Treason.
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