It’s a very difficult one, as there are so many angles to take into consideration such as health of the baby, health of the mother, rape victims...
Whilst I don’t personally agree with abortion outside of health issues and rape (for example: two people got drunk, had sex and got pregnant - you did it you deal with it) it is a persons free will and right to abort as they wish and that won’t be taken away.
As it stands the latest a woman can abort is 24 weeks in the UK, by which point a baby is fully developed with fingers, toes, nails and ears and is the size of a pomegranate. To me this is way to late to be aborting, and inhumanity becomes a factor.
It’s a sensitive issue... but I think the latest a woman can legally abort short be bought WAY down to a few weeks.
The problem with that is that most women aren’t aware of their pregnancy until some 5,6 weeks in. But often much later (especially for those girls that usually have irregular periods). Then the actual process of getting an abortion can take some time as you need multiple visits and you usually see a councillor before you can. So even if a pregnancy is detected early, an abortion won’t be complete until some 10-15 weeks. Currently, those seeking abortions nearer to the 24week mark do have to jump extra hoops. Another thing to consider is that the older the fetus the more complicated and painful the procedure will be. So in many ways abortions nearer to 24 weeks are reserved for special circumstances.
Firstly, it isn’t a law. It’s the Supreme Court looking at the Constitution and saying that the right to choose abortion is implied within the Constitution. That’s what the Supreme Court does, it interprets. If you really wanted to change a law, you would need to propose it, it would need to get through the Senate and the House of Representatives, and the President would need to allow it (in the case that he vetoes it, I believe it goes back and there needs to be a 3/4 majority if I’m not wrong).
Secondly, I don’t think you can or should undo Roe v. Wade. If you really wanted to stop abortions, this is the best thing I will say: Send financial aid to young mothers and support a Universal Basic Income. Why? This’ll stop abortion that is based off of financial need, which is probably the optimal course of action of you want to minimize abortions.
We're 8 fucking billions, there is millions of orphins why the heck would you make another orphib? Cause it's funny to probably never get a family? Plus 8 BILLIONS, what's the plan, building houses on clouds cause there is no more space on the ground? Killing even more our planet? I was born we were barely 6 billions like come on :o
"women bad sexual behavior" it takes a man and a woman to make a baby. Can't be only her fault religious man. And so you're way of thinking is like : let that baby have a hard life to teach that woman a lesson. YES! Let's talk about pregnancy because of rape and so I guess bad woman sexual behavior cause it's only her fault. We let her have the baby of her rapist to teach her not to wear skirt (lot of rapist say they did it because the woman was wearing a skirt and so "called for being raped wearing that outfit") :) god will be proud of you young man.
Erm, most abortions are not from sluts using it as birth control. And you condemn a child to a poor life just to "teach a lesson" to someone, so the child ends up in care and that costs the tax payers money even more.
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Where is the father who impregnated her, where is her parents like state of Texas where parents are responsible for their kids actions until 18. I don't see why were helping parents who allow this kind of behavior in their homes.
parents could be dead if she's an orphan and growing up in the state's care... It's nothing to do with "allowing" anything, its about the potential mother and the embryo, and what is the best choice for them both.
@victoriaxoxo Developed or not, what do you think is in there Toyota or a ham radio? Well last time I checked they are human and if you can't figure that out, you have some development issues of your own.
@ThisAndThat It's a cluster of cells. If you can't figure that out, maybe the development issues lie with you... and to answer that question, yes. If I was to be disabled and nothing more than a vegetable, then yes. If I was going to be born (like i was ) into a dysfunctional, abusive relationship that then went onto the kids, I think I'd have preferred it.
Why are you an Anonymous Coward asking this Question!! If you're so Morally Sound on this Opinion why Not Stand behind your Screen Name? Why do you just pointvout Women's bad behavior we don't get pregnant on our own!!! Many men want and insist on abortions, but they can and do walk away if she denies him the abortion!!! Men behave badly too!!!
Abortion shouldn't be an option at all and I'll stand behind that with my screen name. Many men insist on abortion because that murder option happens to be legal and those men don't want to be kicked out of a child's life left to pay for the child or go be criminalized if they don't. And neither of those should be allowed, not the abortions, nor forcing men to pay when they can't be a part of the child's daily life IE kicked to the side dad's. Outlaw abortion altogether and do away with child custody splitting making it 50/50 custody split and zero child support unless something is seriously wrong with a parent.
And respect your Opinion men have rights to their children too not just a Financial, many don't take the time to fike the petitions a d battle it out in Court I get its not easy, but its veryone counts on the Mom, Lawyers, Judge, County Social Workers that the Dad will just throw his arms up and waive the White Flag; it's also a way the Social Workers and Judges deem how much does the Dad really care. I'm involved in a lot of Custody Cases mainly because of DV. The Dads' that fight get more those that don't get less and both ways are Manipulative (in DV Custody cases I'm saying) those who don't fight trying to prove see I'm not Abusive? Those who are saying I Love my children at all costs and thet know if fight ling enough the Mom will more thsn likely drop everything and return to him...
Now many Men who insists on Abortions usually it's because they don't want kid themselves And don't want to be financially responsible.
Again, I respect your Opinion!! I always Respect thise who don't hide when talking about such a controversial tooic.
@R_Cakes91, some men be Cowards. I honestly Anonymous function on here, unless someone is a Dumbass to put their Actual Name as their Screen Name you're Anonymous!!! But to ask and state your view on such a Controversial Topic as Abortion and not have the Balls to Stand By it well that's a new Low...
No... haha I don’t mean being anonymous. I’m talking about how all the pressure is put on the woman to keep and raise the baby alone. Some men who knock up these women are huge cowards for not taking responsibility for their mistake.
@R_Cakes91, no I knew you were talking about the Cowards that Fuck and Duck!!! Love her and love her then she's preggers and they can't run fast enough...
There are many attorney's on record stating how the courts are biased against men and the system too. All the mom has to do is make one accusation against a man and he's toast. It's rigged against men. Once a false accusation is made he will spend everything he's got and it won't do him any good, attorney's saying that, not me. They know it's a losing game for men they state that openly. False accusations are a tool to steal child custody from men. And once a men lose their children, women turn around to accuse them of being a deadbeat dad. That's what the red pill of MGTOW is, it exposes all those things. Men are so demonized in the US and the west that went can't have anything to do with children at all. It's a game ran by women and the gov, they want men having nothing to do with children. If a man were to stop to ask directions from a girl on her way to school, he would make the 6 o clock news with a predator alert. There is no future for men marriage or children left in the US or the west. We men have been unjustly robbed of our dignity, which is exactly why I'll soon be moving to Russia never looking back.
@R_Cakes91 Paternity are almost useless. And paternity does no good when I child is ripped off out of someone's life. Yes, men love children too, SURPRISE TO ALL THE FEMINIST OUT THERE!
@R_Cakes91 I agree. But regardless men end up paying child support even when they courts know they're not the biological fathers. As far as abortion goes, I never have and I never will support abortion, I am firmly against it, it's murder end of story. I also wouldn't date either way much less get married. Way too many false allegations made against men and boys. If it didn't get them criminally it would ruin them in society. I'm done with the west, soon moving on.
If you don't want to raise a child yourself, fine, you don't have to, you can put the child into the foster care system, set up a closed adoption with another family. A child has near infinite potential. They could grow up to do great things, change the future of humanity, or not. But robbing that child of his/her opportunity to realize that potential, all because he/she is an inconvenience to you, is indescribably selfish and shameful.
I think publicly funded maternity leave, child care, and sex education would probably eliminate abortions overnight. But for some reason religious voters don't see the disconnect in voting for republicans to ensure that doesn't happen.
Put another way, don't force other people to live by the things you decided for them unless you are eager to pay for them to do so comfortably.
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You're right however do all people need women to have abortions? Idea came because shame connected to being pregnant. Yet today we see 14 years old pregnant anyhow by choice. Without proper parenting skills people should not be allowed to get married let alone get pregnant.
if you are saying that some women shouldn't be allowed to get pregnant then you are saying some women need to have abortions. Because if you're trying to use a pro-life stance as a thinly veiled attempt to slut shame, then that just makes you "typical".
What if the woman is raped? What if the child is a product of incest? What if the woman is taking birth control and using condoms at the same time and doing everything she can to prevent a pregnancy but unluckily she gets pregnant anyways? Not all women who get pregnant when they don't want a kid did it because of bad sexual behaviour or choices
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Rape happens all over the world do u see any women having abortion.
My point was 652,000 females were raped in U. S last year. Out of which none had a single baby from those rapes none went to abortion. So save me the abortion helped rape victims.
Save me your pro-life bullshit especially since you most likely don't give shit where those babies end up? Oh they end up with the countless of other children in foster care waiting their whole lives to be adopted? Pro lifers don't give two shits about what happens after. It's not "pro life", it's "pro birth" because I have never seen a pro lifer give a shit if the baby has a decent life and family.
Yes. Abortions happen everywhere and all the time. It also used to happen in the past. My grandma used to perform abortions in her town. She used to do it with a piece of sharp metal wire. The problem with this was that often these procedure were more dangerous and complications followed. Now medicine advanced enough to allow these to be performed safely with minimal danger to the woman.
@ciitruskiwi I couldn’t agree more. Pro-lifers often have this romanticised idea of what it is like to have a child. Or otherwise lack empathy for those that they know will struggle bringing up the child. They will very happily walk past a starving child on the street but still think that all abortion is immoral. Hypocrites of the finest breed.
You believe that women should be punished for the "crime" of being raped, by being forced to raise a child they do not want and are not prepared to raise, probably to live in poverty while religious people like you try to cut off all funding for women forced into poverty by people like you? Your religion teaches you this?
Pro choice. We don't force anyone to donate one of our kidneys or even just some blood eventhough it could safe lifes. It's not even allowed to Take those from dead bodies. So why should a women be forced to safe an Potential Life?
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When you say pro-choice, who's choice are you referring to? I'm guessing it's not the child's choice.
I believe abortion should be an option for women under certain circumstances, but not used as just another means of birth control as it is in most cases today.
Most abortions happen when a woman is "not ready to become a mother". Men have no such option when they are not ready to become a father but it is forced on them by the other parent's choice. Until that changes, and men have a fair and equal ability to opt out of parenthood the way women can, I will never support abortion the way it exists today.
Abortion should be a planned contraception alternative but it should be available. Unwanted pregnancy isn’t just a result of bad behaviour, accidents happen (condoms breaking, etc). Without abortions there would be a lot more children up for adoption. If a woman is getting an abortion after being raped it is a small clump of cells that are being killed, it’s not a child yet and she has been through more than enough, she shouldn’t have to live with a reminder of what happened
What's the difference between a small clump of cells and a large clump of cells? The difference is the small clump of cells doesn't get a choice not to be murdered, but you yourself the large (clump of cells) are protected from it. Think that's fair? I don't.
The small clump of cells isn’t capable of making that choice and can’t feel at the time abortions are usually done. Fairness is irrelevant, the person with the most power always makes the choices.
If the woman dislikes the child, there is a huge possibility that the child will have psychological problems as an adult, why not put the child's and the people around him's suffering at an early end? It just that she should abort within the first month before the fetus develops into a child. There is enough insanity in society, the choice will create less disturb people. No murderers were born into loving families that guides their child well
we were 6 years ahead of you in the uk except northern Ireland ofcourse and to be honest, whilst there is a smally pro life lobby its very small and in reality most people see that horrible choice as a thing only the individuals involved can address so on that basis i am pro choice but not in the active way you see pro choices in america because we dont need to be active about it
Pro life I believe that.. Yes I know the baby is in her body but I believe that.. The baby is another human as well yes i know it not completely born yet but still..
Because women can understand and handle their own newborns/children, and when women want to get pregnant they can, but when it is forced upon them then they leave that situation, then they have a child they might not be able to afford or have time for.
I am pro life because I believe abortion is murder! Abortion is never about choice and it has never been about choice. It’s about escaping the consequences of YOUR choice by taking away the choices from ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE! The zygote/embryo/fetus is not another part of the woman’s body. It’s another human life!
Actually in those developmental stages it is literally a part of a woman’s body, in every way. Even in the law there is a rule on what qualifies as a human being and what doesn’t according to this idea that a fetus cannot survive outside the womb on its own (as in it won’t be able to eat yet and it’s organs can’t function properly) so for that reason it is not yet a human being.
Pro choice and I laugh at the people who use the bible to say unborn fetuses are the same as born humans. The penalty in the bible for destroying a foetus is a small fine to the magistrate. If someone pays that fine, is it acceptable?
If the bible equates an unborn child with an inanimate object and has the same penalty for destroying it, why should it be anything more?
Life. Make sure the person you have sex with is your husband or some one you would not mind having a child with. Children are important and they need to be fed and cared for
@preston1997 Females these days, their body count as a minimum body count of 10 and the average is much higher than that. A huge percentage of them these days are exactly that.
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It’s a very difficult one, as there are so many angles to take into consideration such as health of the baby, health of the mother, rape victims...
Whilst I don’t personally agree with abortion outside of health issues and rape (for example: two people got drunk, had sex and got pregnant - you did it you deal with it) it is a persons free will and right to abort as they wish and that won’t be taken away.
As it stands the latest a woman can abort is 24 weeks in the UK, by which point a baby is fully developed with fingers, toes, nails and ears and is the size of a pomegranate. To me this is way to late to be aborting, and inhumanity becomes a factor.
It’s a sensitive issue... but I think the latest a woman can legally abort short be bought WAY down to a few weeks.
The problem with that is that most women aren’t aware of their pregnancy until some 5,6 weeks in. But often much later (especially for those girls that usually have irregular periods). Then the actual process of getting an abortion can take some time as you need multiple visits and you usually see a councillor before you can. So even if a pregnancy is detected early, an abortion won’t be complete until some 10-15 weeks. Currently, those seeking abortions nearer to the 24week mark do have to jump extra hoops. Another thing to consider is that the older the fetus the more complicated and painful the procedure will be. So in many ways abortions nearer to 24 weeks are reserved for special circumstances.
Firstly, it isn’t a law. It’s the Supreme Court looking at the Constitution and saying that the right to choose abortion is implied within the Constitution. That’s what the Supreme Court does, it interprets. If you really wanted to change a law, you would need to propose it, it would need to get through the Senate and the House of Representatives, and the President would need to allow it (in the case that he vetoes it, I believe it goes back and there needs to be a 3/4 majority if I’m not wrong).
Secondly, I don’t think you can or should undo Roe v. Wade. If you really wanted to stop abortions, this is the best thing I will say: Send financial aid to young mothers and support a Universal Basic Income. Why? This’ll stop abortion that is based off of financial need, which is probably the optimal course of action of you want to minimize abortions.
We're 8 fucking billions, there is millions of orphins why the heck would you make another orphib? Cause it's funny to probably never get a family?
Plus 8 BILLIONS, what's the plan, building houses on clouds cause there is no more space on the ground? Killing even more our planet? I was born we were barely 6 billions like come on :o
"women bad sexual behavior" it takes a man and a woman to make a baby. Can't be only her fault religious man.
And so you're way of thinking is like : let that baby have a hard life to teach that woman a lesson.
YES!
Let's talk about pregnancy because of rape and so I guess bad woman sexual behavior cause it's only her fault. We let her have the baby of her rapist to teach her not to wear skirt (lot of rapist say they did it because the woman was wearing a skirt and so "called for being raped wearing that outfit") :) god will be proud of you young man.
Erm, most abortions are not from sluts using it as birth control. And you condemn a child to a poor life just to "teach a lesson" to someone, so the child ends up in care and that costs the tax payers money even more.
Where is the father who impregnated her, where is her parents like state of Texas where parents are responsible for their kids actions until 18. I don't see why were helping parents who allow this kind of behavior in their homes.
parents could be dead if she's an orphan and growing up in the state's care...
It's nothing to do with "allowing" anything, its about the potential mother and the embryo, and what is the best choice for them both.
Would you want someone to murder you if they thought they might prevent you from living a poor life?
@ThisAndThat do you at all see the difference between a sentient human being and a developing embryo?
@victoriaxoxo Developed or not, what do you think is in there Toyota or a ham radio? Well last time I checked they are human and if you can't figure that out, you have some development issues of your own.
@ThisAndThat It's a cluster of cells. If you can't figure that out, maybe the development issues lie with you...
and to answer that question, yes. If I was to be disabled and nothing more than a vegetable, then yes. If I was going to be born (like i was ) into a dysfunctional, abusive relationship that then went onto the kids, I think I'd have preferred it.
Why are you an Anonymous Coward asking this Question!! If you're so Morally Sound on this Opinion why Not Stand behind your Screen Name? Why do you just pointvout Women's bad behavior we don't get pregnant on our own!!! Many men want and insist on abortions, but they can and do walk away if she denies him the abortion!!! Men behave badly too!!!
Abortion shouldn't be an option at all and I'll stand behind that with my screen name. Many men insist on abortion because that murder option happens to be legal and those men don't want to be kicked out of a child's life left to pay for the child or go be criminalized if they don't. And neither of those should be allowed, not the abortions, nor forcing men to pay when they can't be a part of the child's daily life IE kicked to the side dad's. Outlaw abortion altogether and do away with child custody splitting making it 50/50 custody split and zero child support unless something is seriously wrong with a parent.
And respect your Opinion men have rights to their children too not just a Financial, many don't take the time to fike the petitions a d battle it out in Court I get its not easy, but its veryone counts on the Mom, Lawyers, Judge, County Social Workers that the Dad will just throw his arms up and waive the White Flag; it's also a way the Social Workers and Judges deem how much does the Dad really care. I'm involved in a lot of Custody Cases mainly because of DV. The Dads' that fight get more those that don't get less and both ways are Manipulative (in DV Custody cases I'm saying) those who don't fight trying to prove see I'm not Abusive? Those who are saying I Love my children at all costs and thet know if fight ling enough the Mom will more thsn likely drop everything and return to him...
Now many Men who insists on Abortions usually it's because they don't want kid themselves And don't want to be financially responsible.
Again, I respect your Opinion!! I always Respect thise who don't hide when talking about such a controversial tooic.
Thank you!!! Men can be such huge cowards in this situation
@R_Cakes91, some men be Cowards. I honestly Anonymous function on here, unless someone is a Dumbass to put their Actual Name as their Screen Name you're Anonymous!!! But to ask and state your view on such a Controversial Topic as Abortion and not have the Balls to Stand By it well that's a new Low...
No... haha I don’t mean being anonymous. I’m talking about how all the pressure is put on the woman to keep and raise the baby alone. Some men who knock up these women are huge cowards for not taking responsibility for their mistake.
@R_Cakes91, no I knew you were talking about the Cowards that Fuck and Duck!!! Love her and love her then she's preggers and they can't run fast enough...
There are many attorney's on record stating how the courts are biased against men and the system too. All the mom has to do is make one accusation against a man and he's toast. It's rigged against men. Once a false accusation is made he will spend everything he's got and it won't do him any good, attorney's saying that, not me. They know it's a losing game for men they state that openly. False accusations are a tool to steal child custody from men. And once a men lose their children, women turn around to accuse them of being a deadbeat dad. That's what the red pill of MGTOW is, it exposes all those things. Men are so demonized in the US and the west that went can't have anything to do with children at all. It's a game ran by women and the gov, they want men having nothing to do with children. If a man were to stop to ask directions from a girl on her way to school, he would make the 6 o clock news with a predator alert. There is no future for men marriage or children left in the US or the west. We men have been unjustly robbed of our dignity, which is exactly why I'll soon be moving to Russia never looking back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-Dtcvqcjc8
Dude, that’s what paternity tests are for
@R_Cakes91 Paternity are almost useless. And paternity does no good when I child is ripped off out of someone's life. Yes, men love children too, SURPRISE TO ALL THE FEMINIST OUT THERE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMxaZkDUfrE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH9fnRnEcr0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYCEJtG4k44
Paternity tests should be required at birth
@R_Cakes91 I agree. But regardless men end up paying child support even when they courts know they're not the biological fathers. As far as abortion goes, I never have and I never will support abortion, I am firmly against it, it's murder end of story. I also wouldn't date either way much less get married. Way too many false allegations made against men and boys. If it didn't get them criminally it would ruin them in society. I'm done with the west, soon moving on.
If you don't want to raise a child yourself, fine, you don't have to, you can put the child into the foster care system, set up a closed adoption with another family. A child has near infinite potential. They could grow up to do great things, change the future of humanity, or not. But robbing that child of his/her opportunity to realize that potential, all because he/she is an inconvenience to you, is indescribably selfish and shameful.
I think publicly funded maternity leave, child care, and sex education would probably eliminate abortions overnight. But for some reason religious voters don't see the disconnect in voting for republicans to ensure that doesn't happen.
Put another way, don't force other people to live by the things you decided for them unless you are eager to pay for them to do so comfortably.
You're right however do all people need women to have abortions? Idea came because shame connected to being pregnant. Yet today we see 14 years old pregnant anyhow by choice. Without proper parenting skills people should not be allowed to get married let alone get pregnant.
if you are saying that some women shouldn't be allowed to get pregnant then you are saying some women need to have abortions. Because if you're trying to use a pro-life stance as a thinly veiled attempt to slut shame, then that just makes you "typical".
What if the woman is raped? What if the child is a product of incest? What if the woman is taking birth control and using condoms at the same time and doing everything she can to prevent a pregnancy but unluckily she gets pregnant anyways? Not all women who get pregnant when they don't want a kid did it because of bad sexual behaviour or choices
Rape happens all over the world do u see any women having abortion.
Some women have. All you have to do is listen to their stories or google to find stories but you won't.
My point was 652,000 females were raped in U. S last year. Out of which none had a single baby from those rapes none went to abortion. So save me the abortion helped rape victims.
And you know that how? Do you have any proof? And I'm not just talking about the U. S. I'm talking throughout the world.
Save me your pro-life bullshit especially since you most likely don't give shit where those babies end up? Oh they end up with the countless of other children in foster care waiting their whole lives to be adopted? Pro lifers don't give two shits about what happens after. It's not "pro life", it's "pro birth" because I have never seen a pro lifer give a shit if the baby has a decent life and family.
Yes. Abortions happen everywhere and all the time. It also used to happen in the past. My grandma used to perform abortions in her town. She used to do it with a piece of sharp metal wire. The problem with this was that often these procedure were more dangerous and complications followed. Now medicine advanced enough to allow these to be performed safely with minimal danger to the woman.
@ciitruskiwi I couldn’t agree more. Pro-lifers often have this romanticised idea of what it is like to have a child. Or otherwise lack empathy for those that they know will struggle bringing up the child. They will very happily walk past a starving child on the street but still think that all abortion is immoral. Hypocrites of the finest breed.
You believe that women should be punished for the "crime" of being raped, by being forced to raise a child they do not want and are not prepared to raise, probably to live in poverty while religious people like you try to cut off all funding for women forced into poverty by people like you? Your religion teaches you this?
Pro choice. We don't force anyone to donate one of our kidneys or even just some blood eventhough it could safe lifes. It's not even allowed to Take those from dead bodies. So why should a women be forced to safe an Potential Life?
When you say pro-choice, who's choice are you referring to? I'm guessing it's not the child's choice.
I believe abortion should be an option for women under certain circumstances, but not used as just another means of birth control as it is in most cases today.
Most abortions happen when a woman is "not ready to become a mother". Men have no such option when they are not ready to become a father but it is forced on them by the other parent's choice. Until that changes, and men have a fair and equal ability to opt out of parenthood the way women can, I will never support abortion the way it exists today.
Abortion should be a planned contraception alternative but it should be available. Unwanted pregnancy isn’t just a result of bad behaviour, accidents happen (condoms breaking, etc). Without abortions there would be a lot more children up for adoption. If a woman is getting an abortion after being raped it is a small clump of cells that are being killed, it’s not a child yet and she has been through more than enough, she shouldn’t have to live with a reminder of what happened
What's the difference between a small clump of cells and a large clump of cells? The difference is the small clump of cells doesn't get a choice not to be murdered, but you yourself the large (clump of cells) are protected from it. Think that's fair? I don't.
The small clump of cells isn’t capable of making that choice and can’t feel at the time abortions are usually done. Fairness is irrelevant, the person with the most power always makes the choices.
If the woman dislikes the child, there is a huge possibility that the child will have psychological problems as an adult, why not put the child's and the people around him's suffering at an early end? It just that she should abort within the first month before the fetus develops into a child. There is enough insanity in society, the choice will create less disturb people. No murderers were born into loving families that guides their child well
You sound just like a serial murderer would sound
we were 6 years ahead of you in the uk except northern Ireland ofcourse and to be honest, whilst there is a smally pro life lobby its very small and in reality most people see that horrible choice as a thing only the individuals involved can address so on that basis i am pro choice but not in the active way you see pro choices in america because we dont need to be active about it
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I believe that.. Yes I know the baby is in her body but I believe that.. The baby is another human as well yes i know it not completely born yet but still..
I'm pro-abortion. I've been going to Mullegens for 20 years for my abortion needs.
Because women can understand and handle their own newborns/children, and when women want to get pregnant they can, but when it is forced upon them then they leave that situation, then they have a child they might not be able to afford or have time for.
So in other words in your words their irresponsibility should be allowed even more irresponsibility IE to commit murder.
How is it murder and how is it irresponsible to get raped and not want to keep the UNborn?
I am pro life because I believe abortion is murder! Abortion is never about choice and it has never been about choice. It’s about escaping the consequences of YOUR choice by taking away the choices from ANOTHER HUMAN LIFE! The zygote/embryo/fetus is not another part of the woman’s body. It’s another human life!
Actually in those developmental stages it is literally a part of a woman’s body, in every way. Even in the law there is a rule on what qualifies as a human being and what doesn’t according to this idea that a fetus cannot survive outside the womb on its own (as in it won’t be able to eat yet and it’s organs can’t function properly) so for that reason it is not yet a human being.
@victoriaxoxo it’s still a living thing.
But so many other things are living things. What makes this so special?
@victoriaxoxo because children are a gift from God!
Pro choice and I laugh at the people who use the bible to say unborn fetuses are the same as born humans. The penalty in the bible for destroying a foetus is a small fine to the magistrate. If someone pays that fine, is it acceptable?
If the bible equates an unborn child with an inanimate object and has the same penalty for destroying it, why should it be anything more?
Life. Make sure the person you have sex with is your husband or some one you would not mind having a child with. Children are important and they need to be fed and cared for
You don’t think sex on its own is something people should be allowed to enjoy?
@victoriaxoxo > You don’t think sex on its own is something people should be allowed to enjoy?
Are you a whore?
@preston1997 Females these days, their body count as a minimum body count of 10 and the average is much higher than that. A huge percentage of them these days are exactly that.
I hope you guys are waiting for mariage to have sex and only have sex to make babies. I hope you don't even masturbate or watch porn.
@preston1997 if the ability to feel pleasure from having sex makes me a whore then yes lmao.
@ThisAndThat Ok boomer.